[lucytxt]

can anyone explain the “here’s one good thing” in “bodies” on netflix ? whiteman says it a couple times and im kinda lost. can someone re-jog my memory ?

[spacer4t]

One good thing for him to do technically, like sacrificing himself to get that record to somewhere safe

[lucytxt]

OHHHH ok that makes sense ! thanks !

[lucytxt]

can anyone explain the “here’s one good thing” in “bodies” on netflix ? whiteman says it a couple times and im kinda lost. can someone re-jog my memory ?

[lucytxt]

ok, since i can’t freaking shut up or stop thinking about this show, i want everyone’s opinions on elias mannix, taking the entire show and entire character into account, what are your thoughts ?

here’s mine: at first i was VERY skeptical of mannix, as anyone else would be, but after finishing the show, i have come to my conclusion that he is just a lonely guy with a sucky life. i obviously don’t think what he did with the bomb was a good idea at all, but he redeemed himself when he told 2023 elias to not do it. i believe elias just wanted to be loved because he’s never felt that before, and he also wanted everyone else to feel love hence the “know you are loved” line.

at first, i thought this line was very odd and creepy, but after finishing the show, i believe it is a genuine saying. i think the “know you are loved” is honestly a powerful thing. because of elias’ story, that’s all he wanted, was to be loved. and even though the saying has some bad connotations, i personally really like it and i will remember the good parts of the saying and not the bad. good parts being mostly towards the end of the show when things really start to unfold and elias’ story is revealed.

i do feel bad for him. he had a rough childhood, and he wanted to make sure everyone was loved, so that’s why the 2053 timeline was the way it was. yes, he went about it the completely wrong way, but in the end he is a human being who wanted to feel what everyone else felt.

these are just my opinions, but ya

know you are loved ❤️

[spacer4t]

Hated his character, loved how it was written but I could say so much terrible things about him.

Tough Alfred and Henry again and i swear down 😠

[clives-archive]

I tend to divide Elias into his different "versions", which makes the question of how I feel about him (them?) a little easier.

Basically, I feel for the teenager, he's been through a lot, first with his mother seemingly abandoning him, then growing up in the system, then going to the Morleys and having everyone basically telling him he is Jesus, but also that he'll kill almost a million people. Imagine having every adult in your life suddenly telling you, yes, you'll find love and people who care about you, but only if you do this horrible thing. It's manipulation from start to finish, and every single member of the cult who ever pushed Elias or Said has a responsibility in this. I know they were all brainwashed themselves, but still. The only one we ever see questioning it is Andrew, and even he does very little.

As for the adult versions, the Commander falls in line with an authoritarian state and pushes its agenda, because he has been told he will get his reward in the end. Manipulates everyone, specifically Iris, shoots Shahara, forces Defoe to assist him. This version of the character is very little developed, but what we have is an opportunist manipulator and demagogue. The most emotional we see him when he yells at Shahara, wanting to push responsibility for their situation onto her.

Then the Harker version, this one is mischievous and playful, and completely callous. Someone here on tumblr wrote about him wondering if he even sees the Victorians as people, or if the whole situation is sort of unreal to him - merely background in the setting of his "just reward". The way he treats Hillinghead is utterly horrible, as is the way he manipulates Polly. I have to admit, I kind of hate him the most, because Alfred is my favourite, and he murders him, twice. I was thrilled that Alfred managed to turn the tables on him in their second prison wagon conversation, and the fact that he needed 50 more years to admit that Alfred was right really drives home how small and pathetic a person he is at this point.

Finally, the old one - I actually have to say fairly little about him? He's a coward, and yes, he comes through in the end, but it still takes Polly killing Esther and then Charles with his smoking gun to show up for him to finally *do it.* I just find it very difficult to feel much for him, no matter how much regret he shows.

[lucytxt]

yeah and that makes sense. can’t lie, idk what i was thinking when i wrote my first post. taking everything you said into account, i would agree with it i think. i think what stuck with me, and why i felt the way i felt was because of 2023 elias. i feel like the 2023 elias made him the elias he is in all the other timelines. i might be wrong about that, plz correct me if i am. but again, im not justifying ANY of his wrongdoings, im just saying im understanding how he got to the conclusions he did. i don’t think most of what he did was the right way to do it at all, but there’s obviously a root to why he became his adult self, and i believe it all happened because of how he felt and was treated in 2023.

[spacer4t]

"My love for you and polly, it's so very real, but there's always been something else, just as real"

This is the QUOTE OF THE YEAR because I will always say this, Alfred coming out is beautiful 😭😭

[lucytxt]

yes. and i genuinely feel this is the best way he could have said it. i truly think and agree his love for polly and charlotte was real. i’ve seen people (not on here, on tiktok and reddit) shame him for cheating which yes, i agree cheating is wrong, but on the other side of the coin, the embarrassment and guilt he had when he told his family just showed how much he truly loved them, and how he in a way, wish he wasn’t how he is.

i also saw people saying that he never loved his wife and daughter and that made me sick. they obviously didn’t watch the show. he loved them so much, that’s why it was so hard to come out, i believe. (well that and obviously the time period, but yk what im saying… i hope)

[spacer4t]

True bisexual Alfred, can't be watching the same show if they say he never loved his family, especially fics n stuff. I felt bad for Charlotte and Polly, especially because during the time Alfred was cheating, Polly was getting groomed/manipulated into his world.

+ Just because Alfred didn't have too much of a sexual attraction to Charlotte doesn't mean he doesn't love his family.

Alfred's relationship with Henry was difficult because it was actually quite common then considering the hiding (not justifying the cheating) and it not being allowed at the time

[clives-archive]

See, I'm pretty sure Alfred is gay. If he were bisexual, he would have less of a problem, because he would be attracted to Charlotte. He loves her, but it's not the kind of love you would normal have for a spouse. It's the opposite with Henry - he's attracted to him, but it's more than that, he's also in love with him. So both people who think Alfred never loved Charlotte and people who think he is only sexually attracted to Henry are wrong - he loves both, it's just different types of love.

Polly falls out of this discussion completely, because people usually love their children, no matter what orientation they have.

[lucytxt]

this is very well said !

[spacer4t]

"My love for you and polly, it's so very real, but there's always been something else, just as real"

This is the QUOTE OF THE YEAR because I will always say this, Alfred coming out is beautiful 😭😭

[lucytxt]

yes. and i genuinely feel this is the best way he could have said it. i truly think and agree his love for polly and charlotte was real. i’ve seen people (not on here, on tiktok and reddit) shame him for cheating which yes, i agree cheating is wrong, but on the other side of the coin, the embarrassment and guilt he had when he told his family just showed how much he truly loved them, and how he in a way, wish he wasn’t how he is.

i also saw people saying that he never loved his wife and daughter and that made me sick. they obviously didn’t watch the show. he loved them so much, that’s why it was so hard to come out, i believe. (well that and obviously the time period, but yk what im saying… i hope)

[spacer4t]

True bisexual Alfred, can't be watching the same show if they say he never loved his family, especially fics n stuff. I felt bad for Charlotte and Polly, especially because during the time Alfred was cheating, Polly was getting groomed/manipulated into his world.

+ Just because Alfred didn't have too much of a sexual attraction to Charlotte doesn't mean he doesn't love his family.

Alfred's relationship with Henry was difficult because it was actually quite common then considering the hiding (not justifying the cheating) and it not being allowed at the time

[lucytxt]

yes ! love is NOT something that’s just sexual or romantic as well, so yes, he still did love polly and charlotte.

[lucytxt]

i’m new to tumblr and i have a question, don’t hate me. why do we use the reblog option to respond to people instead of the comments ??? sorry ! i’m just curious and trying to figure my way around here.

[lucytxt]

can someone drop some cute header images ? it can be “bodies” related ! doesn’t have to be tho :)

[lucytxt]

ok, since i can’t freaking shut up or stop thinking about this show, i want everyone’s opinions on elias mannix, taking the entire show and entire character into account, what are your thoughts ?

here’s mine: at first i was VERY skeptical of mannix, as anyone else would be, but after finishing the show, i have come to my conclusion that he is just a lonely guy with a sucky life. i obviously don’t think what he did with the bomb was a good idea at all, but he redeemed himself when he told 2023 elias to not do it. i believe elias just wanted to be loved because he’s never felt that before, and he also wanted everyone else to feel love hence the “know you are loved” line.

at first, i thought this line was very odd and creepy, but after finishing the show, i believe it is a genuine saying. i think the “know you are loved” is honestly a powerful thing. because of elias’ story, that’s all he wanted, was to be loved. and even though the saying has some bad connotations, i personally really like it and i will remember the good parts of the saying and not the bad. good parts being mostly towards the end of the show when things really start to unfold and elias’ story is revealed.

i do feel bad for him. he had a rough childhood, and he wanted to make sure everyone was loved, so that’s why the 2053 timeline was the way it was. yes, he went about it the completely wrong way, but in the end he is a human being who wanted to feel what everyone else felt.

these are just my opinions, but ya

know you are loved ❤️

[bodies-needs-a-fandom]

will this stupid show ever leave my brain or am i doomed to brainrot about it forever??? Is this the new good omens obsession? im going to die istg

[lucytxt]

if you’re doomed, i’m doomed as well. this show is deadass, the best show i’ve ever seen. i think people think i’m exaggerating, but i’m literally not. it has really made me think about life and how one little thing can have a huge consequence. yes, ik that time travel isn’t real… or is it 👀 (nah jk), but the morals of the storylines and the true emotions that go through my mind are real. i will forever love this show.

[spacer4t]

"My love for you and polly, it's so very real, but there's always been something else, just as real"

This is the QUOTE OF THE YEAR because I will always say this, Alfred coming out is beautiful 😭😭

[lucytxt]

yes. and i genuinely feel this is the best way he could have said it. i truly think and agree his love for polly and charlotte was real. i’ve seen people (not on here, on tiktok and reddit) shame him for cheating which yes, i agree cheating is wrong, but on the other side of the coin, the embarrassment and guilt he had when he told his family just showed how much he truly loved them, and how he in a way, wish he wasn’t how he is.

i also saw people saying that he never loved his wife and daughter and that made me sick. they obviously didn’t watch the show. he loved them so much, that’s why it was so hard to come out, i believe. (well that and obviously the time period, but yk what im saying… i hope)

[lucytxt]

just finished the show “bodies” on netflix and am new to the community. i wanna get to know everyone so i have a question: in your opinion, what was the biggest plot twist/revelation in the show ?

for my answer, there’s so many things that i went “WTF” or “WOW” to ! one being when defoe and the cat lady next door to iris are with chapel perilous and that shahara was also part of it. there’s SO MANY more things that i could talk about so let’s get talking !

[bodies-needs-a-fandom]

I guess it wasn't a suuuuppeerrr huge twist? But I distinctly remember watching the scene in Episode 2 where Iris gets hired by 'Commander Mannix' and he says "Know you are loved," for the first time. I saw that and flipped istg.

As for actual plot twists, the Polly Is Evil twist had me in shocked tears

[lucytxt]

literally. esther’s death and whiteman’s reaction is probably in my top 5 saddest moments ! i love the connection they had.

[lucytxt]

just finished the show “bodies” on netflix and am new to the community. i wanna get to know everyone so i have a question: in your opinion, what was the biggest plot twist/revelation in the show ?

for my answer, there’s so many things that i went “WTF” or “WOW” to ! one being when defoe and the cat lady next door to iris are with chapel perilous and that shahara was also part of it. there’s SO MANY more things that i could talk about so let’s get talking !

[spacer4t]

Spreading the question hehe

[withasimplelobsterhat]

The moment where Polly shows the locket to Esther I went "OH!!" paused the episode and messaged my friends how good this show is. It's just an "everything's connected" type moment that really got me

[lucytxt]

OH MY GOD YES. bro i was FLABBERGASTED at that !

[lucytxt]

just finished the show “bodies” on netflix and am new to the community. i wanna get to know everyone so i have a question: in your opinion, what was the biggest plot twist/revelation in the show ?

for my answer, there’s so many things that i went “WTF” or “WOW” to ! one being when defoe and the cat lady next door to iris are with chapel perilous and that shahara was also part of it. there’s SO MANY more things that i could talk about so let’s get talking !