It is increasingly concerning to me to see more and more “sustainable” and “cruelty free” food alternatives & legislation that aims to ensure that small farmers cannot raise and/or hunt their own food. So many of these alternatives focus on corporate sold/lab made foods and legislation that will ensure only large corporations are the only ones that can afford to keep producing food.
Food is a human right. You should not have to pay a massive corporation to be able to eat. Legislation that makes it harder for poor people to keep and raise their own livestock is harmful. Legislation that excludes indigenous peoples from their native hunting lands & food species is harmful.
Farmers in Indonesia introduce fish into their rice fields. The fish excrement acts as a fertilizer for the plants, while the plants attract insects and other pests, which serve as food for the fish. This process increases rice yield by up to 10%.
Fish + ducks + azolla in rice fields is an amazing combo. No need for fertilizers, pesticides, nor herbicides. The movement of the fish also strengthens rice stalks, so it’s less likely to be destroyed by weather.
Additionally, you can use azolla to feed livestock and add nitrogen to soil.
You may not be the best person to ask, but idk who else to ask. I've never vegans defending invertebrate lives; do they care about crickets, crabs, spiders being eaten? Or just the charismatic farm animals? Seems a bit hypocritical for them to only care about some animals, but maybe it's just because livestock are more popular as protein sources? Do you (or any followers of yours) know anything about this?
They care about bees I guess so they can shame people over eating honey. But you can still kill millions of insects with pesticides in crop production and the crop can still be considered “cruelty free” so
This argument always misses one thing: the amount of crops (corn, soy) we have to cultivate to grow a calf from just-weaned to a two ton animal is killing more plants AND bugs than just eating the plants themselves.
Google “feed conversion ratio.”
Grass-fed cows require even more land space, because grass is so much leaner, pushing out wildlife that would have used those trees to live or occasionally hide in instead.
So, if Cricket Lives Matter to you, you will save 4 times (or by some estimates, 20 times more) crickets if you stop eating the meat, i.e., wasted crop plants inefficiently moved through a digestive system and used to build body parts you don’t eat.
Especially red meat. Chickens are a little more efficient.
These same facts work for the “but you’re killing plants” trolls.
Far more plants and bugs die in animal agriculture than eating crops directly.
And note, this next one doesn’t even factor in land use.
That’s nice and cute and all except those crops are being grown for human use and livestock are getting the inedible byproducts. Not everyone even feeds corn and soy to their animals, mine for example eat mostly grass and hay
Also I think it’s stupid to try and quantify the amount of deaths anyway because something always has to die for life to continue
If you’re a small time farmer then fine, but please educate yourself before speaking on large scale topics.
You’d do well to convert to chickens-only, at the very least.
Maybe you don’t want to move into raising plants for whatever reason, and since you own your land you’d probably be reluctant to give some of it back to the wildlife it disrupts, but that does not justify the breakneck pace of the current mass extinction and deforestation due to soy production for rising global demand for meat.
yes but meal is only part of the bean. The more profitable part is the oil, which is by and large for human consumption. The meal is leftover from processing for oil. We should grow less soy altogether but it’s not just livestock driving it’s growth.
Irrelevant anyway because all beef cattle spend the first 6-8 months on pasture eating grass. At feedlots they’re mostly eating waste byproducts from various industries. Chicken and hogs are the ones eating mostly whole soy beans
It’s rare to grow a crop just for animals. It would make the animal unaffordable for normal people. The cost would be to high to even raise them. The few times we do feed a crop to animals would be something like field corn. Due to the fact this is a fast growing crop made for duo purpose, fuel additives/booze/some human type foods like corn starch and animals fodder. Again. If I can sell that crop it’s only for the seed heads. The rest of the plant is waste. That part is the majority of the plant.
Now when I hear “just use those crops to feed people”. Two things. First. People can’t eat field corn as a staple. It’s hard. It’s bitter. It’s woody. It’s why it’s used for fuel additives and in things we want to be bitter and dry. That corn is grown because we are in an area that won’t grow dent or flint corn. The more platable types people think of when picturing corn.
I showed some pictures. Which taste bitter and which are actually food? Can you tell?
As for soy. It’s much the same.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zEnVmnrUeNM
Some, but not all, soybean meal is produced from the residue left after oil extraction. Removal of the oil, which is used mostly in food, but also for industrial oils, soaps and biodiesel, involves crushing and either pressing or solvent extraction. Some, but not all, soybean meal contains ground soybean hulls.
Again. The soybeans are for human consumption, the leftovers are turned to feed. I’m sure we will get some people claiming we can eat the meal too. But that’s starvation foods. I’d rather not if I have a choice.
The other issue is one no one wants to discuss.
We have enough food. We grow enough to feed everyone now as well as the animals. The system actually is very good in most places. Always room to improve poor systems but in the whole a lot works super well. What doesn’t work? The system that says you can’t pay. You don’t eat. There’s no need for anyone to starve. But they will because the system is geared to making sure you pay the most for everything you get. The markup for food is insane for some items! Still going up too. During covid we farmers never stopped producing. Never failed on our end. What did fail was the next step. We must ship to the markets. The processors. The stores. That’s the step that needs to be fixed. When you have empty food banks. And stores throwing away food.. Growing more crops is not fixing that.
The plant-based industry wants you to believe that crops, like soy, corn, and barley, are mostly being fed to livestock, but according to th
I especially love the last, because that cow is not tied, and yet they have no doubt that it will stay put, because sometimes cows are just Like That, especially after dark.
FY for everyone reblogging that post, nobody gives a shit about the special reason you had for mutilating an animal.
like monologue away if it gets you off, but seriously nobody is reading that thinking “ahhh well wouldn’t ya know, they’ve found the One Justifiable Reason for amputating the weight-bearing bones in an animal’s feet!”
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