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Reminder!!!
Proshippers are human! Proshippers are people! Proshippers aren't pedophiles, zoophiles, abusers, etc. If you are a proshipper, then you're a wonderful person!
I hope you keep shipping and keep being happy and keep coping! I love all of you <3
As of rn, this blog is now defunct. No more posts anymore. I am done hiding who I am on an alt.
Goodbye <3
I keep seeing antis claim that fiction effects reality yet also play violent video games. Don't you guys know that fiction effects reality? Video games cause violence then !!! And those villains you guys love so much? You're horrible for liking them !! /s
But seriously, I hate how Antis scream that fiction effects reality on a 1:1 basis all the time, but yet also scream that video games don't cause violence (the fiction effects reality thing is literally just that repackaged guys....) and scream that they can love villains because "he's not real!!!" (But you have to love only the "Right Villain" because god forbid you love Valentino over Alastor or some other guy.)
"You're a proshipper? Ew, pedo..."
Has a very similar ring to it as
"Oh, so you listen to Metal? You must be one of those Satan-worshippers then."
Sometimes I think that Antis kind of hate CSEM because they think it's gross. When...it's bad because it further victimizes a child, a real child. Consuming CSEM is inherently exploitative and further perpetuates the abuse against the child. Same goes for bestiality. They just "think it's gross".
No it's bad because someone or an animal gets HARMED in the production or in the consumption of it.
And that's why I don't believe antis when they say "Antis care about kids, proshippers don't!" You guys flood the CSEM tip line with material the FBI already says to stop reporting. You are WASTING time and effort to investigate these "tips" and feeling good about yourselves. You also claim that, in some callouts you post, that some proshippers draw what you deem CSEM (often incorrectly labeled CP). Did you know that if it WAS CSEM, you would go to prison? Reposting CSEM in any form, even for awareness is a CRIME. Even having on your phone is a crime.
If you cared about children, you'd encourage the creation of spaces for them, you'd actually take time not to expose them to inappropriate material, as well as not send violent harassment mobs after minor proshippers.
When I was a minor online, I witnessed so many minors being harassed into self-harm and suicide because people who kept screaming "WHAT ABOUT THE KIDS" leaked their addresses to pedophiles and spammed them with death threats and rape threats. Kids as young as 13 were and still are receiving vile threats that make even me as a 22 year old feel sick.
If you care about kids, then look at yourself. Look at your actions. See if you really care or if you're only doing it to make yourself feel good.
I feel like fining them would be the better consequence, in case they *do* change and *do* stumble upon something actually questionable.
I feel like the only way for them to realize what they're doing is wrong is for them to receive actual legal consequences. At least for a majority of antis. I understand your point but if they're wasting government time and resources on a few pixels over and over and over despite being repeatedly asked and told to stop, they will not stop.
Fines only go so far.
And if they change, good. They will still have to know that they put actual real life children in further danger because they thought that pixels were more important to fight for.
Sometimes I think that Antis kind of hate CSEM because they think it's gross. When...it's bad because it further victimizes a child, a real child. Consuming CSEM is inherently exploitative and further perpetuates the abuse against the child. Same goes for bestiality. They just "think it's gross".
No it's bad because someone or an animal gets HARMED in the production or in the consumption of it.
And that's why I don't believe antis when they say "Antis care about kids, proshippers don't!" You guys flood the CSEM tip line with material the FBI already says to stop reporting. You are WASTING time and effort to investigate these "tips" and feeling good about yourselves. You also claim that, in some callouts you post, that some proshippers draw what you deem CSEM (often incorrectly labeled CP). Did you know that if it WAS CSEM, you would go to prison? Reposting CSEM in any form, even for awareness is a CRIME. Even having on your phone is a crime.
If you cared about children, you'd encourage the creation of spaces for them, you'd actually take time not to expose them to inappropriate material, as well as not send violent harassment mobs after minor proshippers.
When I was a minor online, I witnessed so many minors being harassed into self-harm and suicide because people who kept screaming "WHAT ABOUT THE KIDS" leaked their addresses to pedophiles and spammed them with death threats and rape threats. Kids as young as 13 were and still are receiving vile threats that make even me as a 22 year old feel sick.
If you care about kids, then look at yourself. Look at your actions. See if you really care or if you're only doing it to make yourself feel good.
Hot fandom discourse take but framing dark content as only being acceptable if its a vehicle for exploring personal trauma is just giving ground to the puritan segments of fandom.
Simply liking dark content for its own sake is perfectly fine.
Antis have really ruined a lot of aspects of online debate, but one of the biggest ones is intimately tying dislike into morality.
You can dislike a character, even a heroic one, and still acknowledge that they are a hero. You don't have to conjure reasons why they're actually bad and problematic.
You can like a character, even a villanous one, and still acknowledge that they are a villain. You don't have to conjure reasons why they're actually good and wholesome.
Some asshole antis have spent so long harassing anyone who resonates with the wrong character that people have started trying to play their game from the other side, villainizing the heroes and glorifying the villains, so they won't face that anger from the antis, instead of just saying "yes, this character is a good person and i hate them/this character is a bad person and I like them."
The same applies to people in real life too. You don't have to like everyone you meet. There doesn't need to be a good reason for it; you can dislike people for any reason. People aren't willing to accept that anymore, though, since it is a known truth you have to still be respectful to people you dislike UNLESS they have done something terrible, and no one wants to do that. So instead they will make their dislike of people into a moral issue to avoid treating them respectfully. And you just... can't do that. You can't.
Antis become extremely profic when the topics involve liking fictional villains/Antags. Defending them with their life and saying stuff like "You guys need to separate the character from their actions!" and "It's just fiction! I wouldn't hurt anyone irl!"
But when a Proshipper does the EXACT SAME THING they get harrassed, told to touch grass and even worse things
It just seems so hypocritical....
Hot fandom discourse take but framing dark content as only being acceptable if its a vehicle for exploring personal trauma is just giving ground to the puritan segments of fandom.
Simply liking dark content for its own sake is perfectly fine.
BTW, I'm not dead! I tend to take breaks from this blog because I've realized that discourse (especially moral discourse) weighs on my mental health a lot! I'll reblog from time to time and interact when I'm interacted with, but other than that, don't really expect much consistent and constant posting!
Ily all, and keep shipping!
Also I block who I want, idc if you post shit about me to others, I'm doing what Antis should be doing, curating my online space <3
BTW, I'm not dead! I tend to take breaks from this blog because I've realized that discourse (especially moral discourse) weighs on my mental health a lot! I'll reblog from time to time and interact when I'm interacted with, but other than that, don't really expect much consistent and constant posting!
Ily all, and keep shipping!
Fiction only affects reality of stupid people
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Antis can’t seperate fiction from reality
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I’m horribly ableist and I don’t want to admit it
Pookie, the second thing you've reblogged from me, are you obsessed or something?
Also how is that ableist. You guys are being willfully ignorant and stupid because you refuse to acknowledge that fiction doesn't effect reality on a one to one basis that you all keep screaming about. Does violent video games cause violence? No, so why does someone having a Daddy kink mean they're secretly a pedophile? Ya'll weird.
"But proshipping can trigger people 🥺" If you are triggered by a ship edit of two fictional sisters, get the fuck off the internet.
"But harassment can trigger people 🥺" If you are triggered by a comment saying “hey so it’s wrong to romanticize incest and you’re a porn addicted degenerate who hasn’t dared to log off since day one” edit of aether x lumine, kindly get the fuck off the internet.
Kinda odd that you go around and find proship content. Also nice of you to use nazi language! Totally not a red flag! Also the harassment isn't that and you know it isn't. You're willfully ignoring all of the antis who out proshippers to abusive parents, you're willfully ignoring all of the antis who go on racist tirades to POC proshippers, you're willfully ignoring all of the antis who have violent fantasies about brutally murdering and slaughtering proshippers. Antis constantly send proshippers death threats and rape threats. You're ignoring that because it doesn't fit into your "porn addicted d word" point that you keep claiming proshippers are. Along with the fact, it's not bad to be into porn/NSFW. Antis literally are just regurgitating right wing evangelical talking points. We don't complain about how you treat fictional characters because they're fictional at the end of the day. They're not fucking real, you dingbat.
"Fictional children cannot consent"
Nothing fictional can consent to shit, because that would require them to be.. Let me say this in the nicest way possible. Be real, living, breathing human beings with thoughts of their own.
"But proshipping can trigger people 🥺" If you are triggered by a ship edit of two fictional sisters, get the fuck off the internet.
