#proship positivity

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antishippers have been reporting fictional material to the FBI tipline for child sexual abuse. like... "we're protectong the kids!!!" by taking up resources and clogging the database with lolisho instead of, oh, i dont know, ACTUAL EVIDENCE OF ABUSE??? like who is the FBI protecting by arresting someone for lolisho?

poor fictional characters! we need to save them! but lets ignore actual child abuse.. thats too much work.

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//rant ahead, kind of long oops I'm in a fandom (won't name specifics) which contains heavy material: horror most notably, gore, violence, themes of s/a, trauma, medical trauma, themes of incest, csa, abuse, outdated ideas of race + gender, among more. pretty dark stuff all around.

so you can understand my feelings when every 'proship DNI' i see in said fandom makes me roll my eyes.

BUDDY respectively, you cannot be saying that when you write fanfic about these characters. when you draw this character in ships and when you reblog about how much you thirst over these morally questionable people.

it's the biggest indicator for me that this person doesn't do their research and just follows along to what everyone else is posting on their blogs. like it get it, there's so many new words out there for online spaces and communities it can be hard to keep track. but it makes them seem so dense overall. especially when they whine about proshippers interacting with their posts, when they're out here engaging with said proship media and content to begin with. the call is coming from inside the house.

and i bet money that if i were to go in their inbox right now and ask why they simp/ write/ create fanart for 'xyz' characters whose a canonically a murderer/ abuser/ among other things, these users will reply with "these characters aren't real so therefore it's okay" some of these people are so-so close to getting the idea of what proship actually is, but will argue over a label because they want to police what other people post about online instead of blocking/ ignoring and moving on with their life. TLDR; it's just extra annoying seeing antishippers around when the canon source material is full of messed up characters, dark and often taboo topics, and then see people try to possess some moral high ground. there is none here babes.

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I think the worst part of this was that it wasnt satire, it was posted in response to somebody telling a minor that they shouldn't be participating in 18+ conversations.

Every day I open up my phone and see some shit lol

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I'm probably more proship leaning, but I feel like my stances are a bit hypocritical? I'm not sure. I'm fine with people enjoy "problematic" smutt and similar stuff, but I don't like when they completely dismiss any criticism of certain media. Like the ones that feature a lot of violence against women for example, just to name a few. Things just don't exist in a vacuum, y'know

Being proship does not mean being adverse to criticism of medias, it's only acknowledging that fiction is fiction and ultimately isn't directly causing harm, and so individuals who engage with it shouldn't be harassed over it.

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(Sending off-anon intentionally)

In case the link doesn't work, this ask is regarding the anon asking for advice regarding their past in a small fandom with a toxic friend group.

I wanted to try n help since I was in a similar situation. I also used to be part of a small fandom and befriended/became mutuals with a large chunk of the people in it. These people also used to harass bigger artists for being 'proship' (I say it like that because they didn't label themselves as such they were just lumped in with proshippers). While among those 'friends' I'd spread/make callouts or talk shit about certain artists.

It's probably been 2-3 (?) years since all that happened and since then I've cut myself off from those people completely. I'm just barely getting back into making fanart for this fandom.

When it comes to apologising to these people; that's up to you. If you feel it's appropriate you can try to reach out. Personally, I only managed to apologise to one person. They were kind enough to accept my apology. Not everyone is gonna react like that ofc. But you'll find people are generally more understanding than you think. Though when in doubt, just leave them be.

I also recommend blocking. Block a bunch of people in the fandom. I've blocked every ex-friend/mutual and anyone associated with them.

It's entirely possible people won't even remember that you were involved with your ex-friends. It's been 3 years since 2023. That's a pretty decent chunk of time.

Wallowing in your own guilt won't change anything. I know it's not easy cuz again, I was in a similar situation. I still feel guilty for my past actions and I still have people I want to reach out and apologise to. The best thing you can do is start somewhere.

I wish I could give better advice but I don't know the specifics of your situation. I don't know how involved you were with these artists or if you were on a different platform like I was (I dunno but this situation seemed reminiscent of Twitter fandom stuff.)

But yeah. Regardless I wish you the best and believe in you ^w^

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what's funny is that a certain demographic of folks online will see someone as 'profic + proship' and immediately assume this person is into writing/ condoning/ consuming the most heinous shit out there. but that's just always the truth.

i identify as profic and anti-censorship.

i personally dislike fics involving large age-gaps, dad's best friend trope, the nickname 'daddy' being used in sexual settings, being cheated on, infidelity, abusive relationships, religious leader x follower, etc. So why do I still identify as profic despite not liking all the above? Because I don't make it everyone else's problem to conform to my content consumption. I don't harass people, I don't get up on my moral soap box about how people who write 'xyz' in fic are disgusting.

what do i do when I find a fic/ post that involves topics i'm uncomfortable with? i keep scrolling, i blacklist words/ tags, or i block. then i move on with my life. that's literally it.

it's really not hard people.

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More of a vent I guess? Sort of need advice from literally anyone, comments included.

Back in 2023, when I was a teen, I was part of a small fandom so small that most people recognized each other. I was surrounded by a very toxic friend group of antis who would regularly be rude to bigger artists in the fandom due to them being proship. I felt pressured to join in fear of them finding out I was proship too since they were my only friends at the time. Years later, I'm back in the fandom but the guilt of what I did is crushing me so badly I wish I could apologize for all of that but I don't know how and if I should.

I desperately want to be part of the fandom but it's impossible due to the reputation of the friend group I was in and I feel like I'll never make it out of the stupid mistakes I made as a teen

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I was on a Discord server for my favorite games, and in the rules, it says no talking about proship, but they kept saying, "I don't get why it's proship (they also said the meaning of pro) and not probship." and it made me a little angry

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