PLEASE stop demonizing pr05titution when it’s actually been done since forever and maybe start allowing women to do it in safe conditions?
By making it illegal you’re just making it incredibly dangerous
So many SWers say their clients are way more sweet and respectful than men in society, don’t try to fool us claiming you’re against SW because you worry about women
What’s so scandalous about women having consensual s€x and having (for once) clear remuneration for it?? Oh wait, nvm thats bc you just prefer when they’re submitting to you and have no advantage in fvcking your ugly d!ck
Because yes, heterosexual s€x is a lot about remuneration since men and women don’t have the same role in society, if you think s€x is only about love and it’s just beautiful and mystical you have been fooled, it’s actually a great representation of our society
Yeah, rapes been around forever too. That doesn't make it ethical. The length of a profession doesn't mean it's magically moral. And where are all these sex workers that say their clients are lovely and respectful? Women in prostitution are far more likely to be killed than your average woman. Stripper names exist because male clients try to stalk and murder/rape these women. Theres nothing scandalous about a woman having consensual sex, the issue is you can't buy consent. You cannot buy access to anyones body for an hour. Sex is not a service you provide. You are the product being sold. Radfems and "swerfs" are anti sex work because we operate under the assumption that you cannot buy a human being. If you want to screw a bunch of strange men, thats fine and dandy. The issue is that they cannot buy access to your body. If you're only consenting because you need the money then you are not consenting at all.
Okay, i agree the argument of the length sucked. But your point about a human body not being able to be sold isn’t solid bc that’s just what ppl keep saying to make sure sw stays stereotyped as the least ethical thing a woman could do. Actually sw isnt the only profession where you sell your body, but because it’s s€xual it freaks ppl out because sex has always been a tool of oppression against women and suddenly in sw they have the opportunity to use it to their own will. !!Of course i’m not talking about sex traffic when women are exploited for sw!! The thing is that the main idea that ppl have of sw is sex traffic when it can be so much different. I’m not necessarily saying it’s “empowerment” (i’m not that naive ty) but really ppl, especially women, need to reconsider it differently, so it can finally be accepted then done in safe conditions. And for the women that have been SWers who had a great experience with sw (even a reconstruction after rape), i suggest you to read for example french authors virginie despentes and ovidie!
I just don’t get why sex wouldn’t be a service you provide… and buying a human being is actually the concept of capitalism. In non-exploiting sw it’s directly between the woman and her client so maybe it’s actually way more ethical than any job that serves no one but one man behind a company
Now, I'm not a die hard capitalist by any means but "buying a human" isn't capitalism. It's buying a service. Sex is not a service you provide though. Johns don't care if it's a sex doll or a human. Your body is not your own for that hour. Non-exploiting SW doesnt exist because there's no way you can buy consent. Thats coercion and maybe I'm too feminism pilled but thats rape by any other name. Go fuck a 100 guys for all I care but if you're only sleeping with them for the money, you're being raped. If SW was really a service, the johns would want experinced women, not virgins, no? If I want my house remodeled, I'm not looking for a 16 year old whose never held a scrapel, I want a middle aged man whose been doing this since he was 18. If SW was really a service, no one would qualify for unemployment benifets because they can just prositute themselves and get some money. If SW was really a job, pimps would actually protect their workers. But because it's not, because these women are objects and not people according to their clients, it's rape. I have nothing against promiscous women, I have something against legalized rape.
Well when you say capitalism is buying a service and not a human being, it’s kinda subjective and if you ask me it’s immoral because the proletariat that provides the service doesnt have the choice to do it.
Secondly, by saying this hour doesnt belong to the woman when she’s with a client, YOU are actually objectifying her and you’re limiting her in her own will. Please go read some books or articles of prostitute feminists before you talk of their situation instead of them.
I think where we disagree is our conception of sw. Sw involving traffic and pimps is not a good system, and i’m not even talking about minors SWers. But you need to understand sw can be a job for women that they manage and it’s directly between them and their clients
And please don’t say “maybe you’re too feminism pilled” when you speak up for prostitute women putting them all in one basket, that’s ragebait i swear. Idk maybe you actually read books from SWers but you need to expand your understanding
In a system where no matter what everything is more or less immorality and systemic oppression, it’s not much about if sw is a service or not. It’s about if women can for once take a profit in this system… and ofc among all the immorality and systemic exploitation in our capitalist world people choose to attack sw
