"julia and carmen have jeopardy nights on history stuff and tally whoever wins (whoever has more gets to choose the next topic)"
Yes!! Omg I like to imagine Team Red joins them occasionally but they end up becoming a bunch of third wheels. Watching Carmen and Julia playing jeopardy is almost equivalent to watching them bang. There's this weird tension between them...
Heart-eyed Julia: Aren't you a quick study, Ms. Sandiego?
Equally heart-eyed Carmen: Oh quit the formalities dear, you know what it does to me..
Zack, Ivy, and Player: *synchronized awkward cough*
Also, when they play jeopardy night I think Zack or Ivy would win at least once, and they'd definitely choose sports or cars as a topic hehe.
I like to think their dates are very spontaneous. Very spur of the moment and Julia doesn't really mind because scheduling a date is difficult because of how busy she is, and Carmen is trotting the globe. And besides, these two love to have an excuse to spend time together 🥰
Now, if we were to get into the specifics, I feel like they'd like late night walks and talks where they just exchange facts and let each other's presence consume them. The outside world doesn't exist to them in those moments and they aren't Professor/Agent Julia Argent and globe-trotting thief Carmen Sandiego but just Julia and Carmen.
hi ! do you like the Girl of all Time? dont know where to start? missing a few comics? well you're in luck. welcome to my complete (canon) reading guide (as someone who has read all of her appearances)
key:
bolded- important
*- key moment
the only comics i wont be including would be those super minor one panel cameos, but if ur looking to go for 100%, i recommend looking on Comic Geeks!
POST CRISIS (1986 - 2011)
introduced in 1999 during the No Man's Land event! while i recommend the entire event just because its Good, she shows up a bit later!
Batman #567* first appearance ever!
Detective Comics #734*
Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #120* (first appearance as Batgirl!)
Batman #569
Azrael: Agent of the Bat #56-57 + #60-61
Robin #73
Batman: Gotham Knights #2 (fantastic insight into cass's mindset at the time)
Batman: Outlaws #1-3 (ngl dogshit comic. but ! shes there!)
BATGIRL 2000
for events, ill only be including the issues that cass shows up in, but ill link a complete reading order !
batgirl #1-11
officer down: batman #587, batgirl #12, Robin #86, Birds of Prey #27, Catwoman #90, Nightwing #53, Detective Comics #754, Batman: Gotham Knights #13
batgirl #13
superboy (1994) #85
batgirl #14-20
joker: last laugh (joker: last laugh #3, batgirl #21, wonder woman #175, supergirl (1996) #63)
batgirl #22-23
bruce wayne: murderer? (batgirl #24, robin #98)
batgirl #25-26
bruce wayne: fugitive (batman #600, batgirl #27-29, batman #605-607)
batgirl #30-39
nightwing (1996) #81
batgirl #40-52
Justice League: Elite #1-12 (features cass as an undercover assassin named Kasumi!)
WAR GAMES (detective comics #790, batgirl #53, detective comics #797, batman: legends of the dark knight #182, gotham knights #56, batgirl 54-55, batman #631, gotham knights #57, batgirl #56, detective comics #799, legends of the dark knight #184, nightwing #98, batgirl #57, batman #633)
FRESH BLOOD: robin #132, bg #58, robin 133, bg #59.
batgirl #60-73
i cant find a place for these:
Batgirl (2000) Annual #1 published after batgirl issue 5!
BATGIRL: Secret Files and Origins, great intro/summary for cass + fantastic story about early batgirl cassie.
Batman Allies: Secret Files & Origins 2005
Birds of Prey Secret Files & origins, just a cass bio!
DC 1st: Batgirl/Joker, LOVELYYY babs+cass story, set earlier in her batgirl run. absolute fav ever
Batman: Family #6-8, minor cass appearances but fun little appearances from her + nightwing together !
Solo #10, written and illustrated by one of her creators, damion scott, it features a slightly alternate universe cass, includes a short stephbin + cassgirl story, AND... tim x cass dating.. and sharing the batman mantle when they're adults. but the stephbin + cassgirl is everything <3
Batman: City of light. PERSONAL AWARD FOR THEEE worst cass comic EVER. read it if u hate urself. i have a whole essay written on my locg about how BAD it is.
THE DARK AGES.
okay so. batgirl 2000 is pretty much the peak cass content ur gonna get. after the solo ended editorial wanted Cass to be ... more morally grey. so she was turned into a complete villain during the One Year Later storyline and it would eventually be retconned because of how baffling it all was. unless you're aiming for completion, i really wouldn't recommend reading any of it ToT. but here it is nonetheless
robin #148-151 (robin OYL)
supergirl (2005) #14
robin #161-162
black canary (2007) #2 (cameo but also has the tiniest bit of context for something in batman and the outsiders)
teen titans (2003) #43-46
THE RECOVERY...
Batman and the Outsiders (2007) #2-8
Batgirl (2008) #1-6
Batman and the Outsiders (2007) #9-14
Batman: Battle for the Cowl #1
Batman: Battle for the Cowl - The Network
Batman: Battle for the Cowl #3
REBORN
Batgirl (2009) #1
Red Robin (2009) #17
Batman Incorporated (2010) #6* first appearance as black bat!
Red Robin (2009) #25
Batman: Gates of Gotham #1-5
and Convergence: batgirl, published in 2015 in a storyline that takes place in the post-crisis continuity! stephanie brown is the main character, but cass (and tim!) show up as supporting.
THE NEW 52 REBOOT (2011-2015)
oh lord. dc wanted to relaunch their universe, so in 2011, reboot they did! both cassandra cain and stephanie brown were erased from existence, and barbara gordon was unparalyzed and also Shoved back into the batgirl role. its not until 2015, where steph and cass are introduced into the new timeline! but. different.
BATMAN & ROBIN: ETERNAL
#1* (first appearance) -#8
#11-14
#18-26* (26 is the first NAMED appearance as ORPHAN)
this origin would later be retconned with the New History of the DC Universe by Mark Waid, however her time as Orphan is still canon! because of weird timeline stuff.
REBIRTH (2016-2020)
detective comics #934-939
night of the monster men: (batman #7, nightwing #5, detective comics #941, batman #8, nightwing #6, detective comics #942)
#943-947
#950-956* very cass focused
#958-959
#961-962
#964
batgirl and the birds of prey #15-17 (WARNING. BAD.)
red hood and the outlaws #15 (warning. mid.?)
#967-980*-981, *#980 recanonized all past stories! so all pre-flashpoint comics are canon again., so we see cass + steph's reaction to seeing their pre-flashpoint selves. if that makes any sense.
#983-987 *karma arc, prelude to batman and the outsiders!!
batman and the outsiders 2019 #1-17* (it is NOTT the best cass writing at all, but!! duke and cass !!)
2020 - NOW
or the "casscainissance" if u must.
Batman: the Joker War Zone* first appearance as BATGIRL!
detective comics #1031-1033
batman #104-105
batman: urban legends #3 "death wish" (minor but its about her)
DC Festival of Heroes: The Asian Superhero Celebration "sounds" + "What's in the box?"
detective comics #1038 backup "march of the penguin"
batman secret files: the signal (minor ! but cute duke + cass moment. bad story for duke tho :(()
batman: urban legends #5 "wildcard"
fear state: (batman: fear state alpha #1, detective comics #1045, batman #112, batman: urban legends #8 "fear state: disinformation campaign, part 1" batman #115-117 backup "batgirls", nightwing #85-86, batman #117)
batman: urban legends "the bats of christmas past" (minorrr and also hallucination/dream. its dick focused!)
Batgirls (2021) #1-12, 2022 annual, #13-19
the joker (2021) #3-4, #7, #12, #15
detective comics #1049-1054, #1057-1058
task force z #8
dc pride: tim drake special (minor.)
batman: one bad day - two-face
lazarus planet: dark fate
spirit world (2023) #1-6
Detective Comics #1069, #1071-1073, #1077-1080, #1082, #1084, #1086-1089
dc's how to lose a guy gardner in 10 days "date night" (minor)
nightwing #118,
Birds of Prey (2023) #1-28
Batgirl (2024) #1- FOREVER. hopefully !!
dc k.o: the kids are all fight special (its. a comic alright!)
3/17/2026, ill try my best to keep this updated with upcoming comics! i mighttttt be missing a few things but if thats the case ill just go back and edit later. anyway! happy cass reading !!
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