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[messedupdoilies]

ppl acting like buffy ended the series single like she's being an independent woman will never stop being funny to me... likeee what actually happened is her confessing her love to someone who promptly died. its like going to a funeral and congratulating the grieving widow for becoming a girlboss who doesn't need a man, lmaoooo. She may very well be a girlboss but time and place, oh my god.

[scullys]

just came across a bangel gifset and im in my feelings bc you know what drives me up the wall as a Spuffy(tm)? u know what drives me bonkers? bananas if you will?

the way both buffy and angel brood all the time about how they're starcrossed lovers that can't be together because of their circumstances, how angel could never allow himself to be happy with her and so they stay separated but still longing for each other etc etc BUT. but. they're not EVER given a storyline in which they have to investigate and exhaust all possible avenues into turning their situation around. it feels (TO ME) like this situation presents itself to them in the form of an obstacle that has no immediate solution and they're like "well. what can we do? anyways." like oh i can't be with her during the day? god this is so hard, it's unsustainable we can't live like this! it's an impossible love! meanwhile you got spike running around during daytime with a blanket covering him just to be in the same area as buffy. oh i can't fully be in a relationship with her because i would lose my soul if i was happy for just one second (apparently during sex only btw)? god that's tragic and doomed and i'm gonna have to avoid her for the rest of my life. meanwhile you got spike going to who the fuck knows where to see who the fuck knows who in order to go through cosmic levels of psychological and physical torture just to do the impossible and EARN back his soul. which is something that nobody seems to know was even possible until he did it. which makes me wonder how many spells and trials could exist in the buffyverse that would help angel... what? permanently break a curse and keep his soul? oh that was all? damn. within the context of all the villains buffy has beaten throughout this show, including the very first evil and a goddess... a curse can't be permanently broken? i haven't seen angel but do they explore this? does he even try? there are so many compromises and sort-of-solutions they could've figured out in order to be together if they truly wanted to that it drives me CRAZY that they just. don't. worst part is that it feels like the only reason they don't figure it out is because both the writers and the characters themselves LIKE the tragedy of it all. that is how it's popularly known after all isn't it? the gloomy drama of the vampire and the slayer. but spike and buffy are vampire and slayer too and if you were to tell spike that he couldn't be with buffy romantically because of x and y reason he would first. spit in your face. second. try to prove you wrong. if for ANY reason you were right and he really could not be with buffy romantically in any way he would decide to just. stay around. help her out, be there for her, even if it has to be in the background of her life. because he loves her from afar, from up-close and from the sides, regardless of whether she returns his love or not. which is how you should love the person you claim is the love of your life btw

[messedupdoilies]

Hilarious, this also drives me bonkers and makes me feel like they enjoy their tragedy more than their love. Like I don't think the writers understood just how much Spike basically entirely undermined Angel's entire tragic manpain by just like...... trying a whole lot more to work within the circumstances of the relationship lmao. You could be forgiven for watching s1-3 and thinking "oh how sad that they can't make it work" but then you watch s5-7 and notice... wait hang on, this other vampire working with even harder circumstances is doing all the work. And you realize..... Angel just didn't try that hard.

Then you watch ATS and you see him doing trials to save Darla and going into hell to save Cordelia and I'm supposed to be satisfied with how hard he tried to be with Buffy when he was like.... nah can't research a solution. Can't be assed to try even like a little teeny tiny bit 😭😭😭 bro HUH? don't even get me started on the fact that he had a literal solution to be with Buffy and then chose to undo it because he wants to be a cool tragic vampire more than a human.

[scullys]

Spike starts respecting her choices. However, the soul is still supposed to be this heroic, romantic act (that he's always telling her he did for her), and fans use that as the main reason he "deserves" her, despite the fact she never asked him to her a soul for her, she told him to move on.

he's always mentioning it to her? when? besides the church scene which is while he was having a mental breakdown. he didn't seem to want to tell her at first and then when he was being controlled by the first he was frustrated that him getting his soul was making buffy be all soft for him when she should've been killing him.

also, getting his soul back WAS heroic and romantic. why are we acting like it wasn't? like i get it if you don't ship it but if you say that The Event of spike getting his soul back was not even a little bit outstanding and awesome you're just lying and then what's the point of this

[messedupdoilies]

Butting in because I feel like fighting I guess. This is what bothers me about this discourse and its that the Spuffy stance is always wildly strawmanned to hell and back and we're meant to.... what? Defend the stance of some rando elsewhere? "Spuffies use that to say Spike deserves Buffy--" hold on, are the Spuffies who say that in the room with us? Cause it's not me, that's not OP's take either, and I fail to see why we should need to answer at all for some shit someone else says in some other corner of the internet.

I am deep in this fandom, I live on Elysian Fields, Spuffy central. I have never seen anyone say that Buffy must, against her own will, be with Spike to reward him for his soul. They likely exist somewhere, but acting like it's the default stance is beyond bad faith, and expecting me to answer for ANYTHING other than the things I have said is ridiculous.

For the record, Spike doesn't express this take either. Spike, in fact, HIDES his soul. He brushes off Buffy's concern for him, accusing her of coddling him. When she starts to separate him from his soulless self (you know, the way Angel taught her to), Spike very firmly pushes back against it and argues there was "no one else" but him who committed his sins.

Spike only ever argues that he's different and safe for Buffy to have as an ally. He doesn't expect love or even friendship, he frequently chafes against Buffy being too kind to him. If it were up to him, he probably would have let her believe he was still soulless and would take whatever judgment accompanies that assumption. It was only because he lost his mind and babbled out something that tipped Buffy off that she even found out.

If you think that Spike should shut down entirely from Buffy reaching out to him and aiming to reconcile of her own volition because its "wrong" and he should be viewed as "irredeemable", then that is, to be blunt, stupid. Why should Spike get to dictate their relationship? Sorry that you don't like it, anon, but Buffy canonically chooses to forgive him. Not because Spike plays some weird 4-d chess to manipulate her into it, but because she wants to. Spike is the one frequently pushing back, but he ultimately respects her feelings and that it gives her peace to reconcile. Why shouldn't he? Because you, the invisible audience member, don't like it?

The argument against s7 spuffy is always the same dishonest framing; claiming, with little evidence, that Spike pesters her (he does not). Disregarding Buffy's own agency. Half-remembered plot points twisted out of their original context. Moving goal posts. Blah blah blah. I'm tired of always being talked around and having none of my real takes engaged with, it's pointless.

[theladydi]

[elysianholly]

On my knees begging people to understand the difference between depicting something and romanticizing it. Also, why certain actions taken by villains is not as problematic as those same actions taken by heroes. 'Cause, you know, the story isn't typically endorsing the villain.

And while we're at it, too many people also need a crash course in narrative framing in general.

[messedupdoilies]

And moreover, recognize that even if said villain switches to being a good guy, that does not retroactively mean their former villainous actions are now endorsed by the narrative either. That's not how arcs work.

Not every character in every context is meant to be aspirational, and "analyzing" every character in the same framework as though they are, ignoring all context or framing, is incredibly bad faith.

[buffycaps]

BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER - 4.11: Doomed

[sycamorality]

hi guys! discord is doing a survey on how people would like ai to be integrated into discord. take it and say fuck no to every question. when you get to "in general, how do you feel about discord inegrating ai features?", respond that you would actively get everyone you know off of discord and wouldn't pay for nitro or other shop items if they added ai features.

[camellcat]

rewatching s6 has been killing meeee. buffy is projecting SO hard onto willow when they are not going through the same thing even a little bit. like, girl. willow is over here having legitimate withdrawals from going cold turkey with magic and buffy's like I wanna fuck that vampire so bad I understand what ur going through ?????? I DON'T THIS IS THE EVEN REMOTELY SAME ACTUALLY. GIRL IT IS NOT THAT SERIOUS YOU DO NOT BE TO BE SHACKING UP IN UR ROOM WITH GARLIC ON THE WINDOWS AND A CROSS IN UR HAND. GET IT TOGETHER MY LOVE IT'S NOT AN ADDICTION YOU JUST HAVE A CRUSH

[spikedru]

listening to your heartbeat, to make up for the time your heart didnt beat at all

[clarkgriffon]

TARA MACLAY HAIR APPRECIATION — Season Four

[frankencain]

do you guys also have favourite The Characters in-law. like characters from media you know nothing about but you just kinda like looking at them when your mutuals put them on your dash

[rafeandonlyrafe]

well 🧍‍♀️ as a reminder this blog is NOT a safe space for trump supporters but it IS a safe place for women, queers, trans ppl, people of color, undocumented people, and any marginalized group.

[bob-belcher]

[messedupdoilies]

one of the best parts of spuffy is that smg finally having a scene partner who is pulling his damn weight to sell the pairing my GOD.

[youaremyvoice]

problematic acting ability gap

[zevuffie]

[youaremyvoice]

problematic acting ability gap

[shesnake]

hottest spike btvs looks:

Unspeakable grief in the first 3 episodes of season 6

Literally any time he's looking at Drusilla in S2

Bloody torture wounds in 5x17 intervention + the fresh dye job

Morning after scars in 6x10 wrecked

Fool for love 70s punk subway flashback

Fucked up hands in 5x20 spiral

All of 6x07 lovesick smiles at drunk Buffy

Vampface during the 4x03 daylight fight

Roots growing out in 7x01

Starving red-eyed and and chained up in the bathtub 4x09

[andremichaux]

James Marsters as Spike

BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER (1997 - 2003)