Confused Anon sends a follow-up Ask, my responses are in blue.
i'm not asking you to tell israelis what to do, i'm just trying to figure out what you think about all this.
...because I've been shy about sharing my opinions...and it is somehow a mystery what I think...? We're both confused.
Schueftan's "violent maintenance" is likely the only option available to Israel until Palestinians (and their longtime abusers/enablers of the Arab League) decide to try something other than a maximalist, eliminationist, genocidal set of policies. When they're ready to accept the reality and permanence of a Jewish state, a path to peace will appear.
this paragraph from your answer is a good example of my frustration here. you begin by acknowledging the most likely solution for the short term, but then immediately let me down (so to speak) by saying that this is "until Palestinians decide to try something other than ..."
What if we keep at it for five, ten, twenty years and their attitudes don't change?
Did you watch the videos? Did you read the linked posts? Schueftan anticipates violent maintenance continuing for generations.
Do we just live with this status quo indefinitely?
That's what we're loosing patience for. For this state of things. Because as far as I've seen in your other post this "violent maintenance" seems to be the endgame from your point of view, but that just doesn't compute to me, because that is just not a permanent solution.
Ah. Now we're getting to the point with phrasing like "endgame," and "permanent solution."
And believe me, given enough time with this situation not changing for the better a permanent solution will be implemented, for terrible or for worse.
Anon, I'd like to suggest, as gently as I can, that you're not confused by me at all.
I think you have heard me very clearly and understand exactly what I'm saying - it doesn't confuse you at all.
You just don't like it, because you don't want to face the reality that a permanent solution in your lifetime is unlikely.
Schueftan describes violent maintenance continuing for generations because Israel, despite its ample supply of talent, hard work, and ingenuity, cannot produce cultural change among Palestinians.
This means that no permanent solution is likely to become available in my lifetime or yours.
Some estimates suggest at least a third of Israelis have PTSD. Of course you want a permanent solution.
Malley and Agha explain how the two-state solution was never tenable, and I'd argue that there's never been leadership among the PA or Hamas which has ever sought peace, or planned in good faith for a future which includes the existence of a Jewish state in any borders.
(obligatory: I did not watch the videos you linked yet, but if they answer my question here then I do apologise)
Please consider reading this three-part post which leads up to Schueftan's analysis.
I'm sorry it's not what you'd prefer to hear, but you're not confused by me - you're confused by your belief, despite all evidence to the contrary, that a permanent solution is plausible in your lifetime.
I'm not faulting your feelings, your desires, or your hopes because they make sense and are valid -- but I think your confusion isn't about me or anything I've written.
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