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I hope Randomthefox gets deplatformed someday

They deserve it

Honestly... it's probably best to ignore him. I'm definitely doing that and I felt better. That guy's just a huge dick to me anyway, but yeah if he does get deplatform, I would definitely feel a bit better but that's definitely never gonna happen.

Also this isn't a question, so you should.. idk, probably ask a question.

I've seen many people discuss how the classic designs fit in as the past designs.

Some would say that they aren't literally the past designs and that the only reason they look different is due to art style rather than it actually being a design change being taken seriously. Others would probably say that it genuinely IS how they look in the past, and that eggman and Sonic magically has some biological change (eggman getting taller, and Sonic and friends gaining colored eyes)

My answer? It's BOTH art style and young designs in the same time. Like here:

Obviously, we know that Sonic and eggman for example (cuz I haven't redrawn Amy, tails and knuckles yet.) would not 100% be their classic designs. Sonic facial structure, his ears, his feet and hand length and his eye color are different from modern Sonic, and Dr eggman is shorter than his modern counterpart with a slightly different head design.

HOWEVER saying that they literally look like the modern designs (with the only evidence being sa1 flashbacks, even though that is easily explainable but I'll get to it later) is also stupid because there actually is evidence to suggest that Sonic did look different. I'm not going over to eggman cuz idk what people thought he would look like in the classic games with the modern design.

Sonic generations, even in the japanese version (both original and remaster japanese dialogue), make references for Sonic's design differences.

He's younger. He's rounder. His hair style is a little different. His spikes are a little shorter. And he is smaller in height. All of this is stated in the game's cutscenes, so we know for s fact that the design changes is a canon change and not an art style one.

However one might point out tails not noticing the differences, but if we take into account on the first image I posted, that's basically enough evidence to confuse the 2 because aside from those changes in his younger self, he'd basically still look like his modern counterpart, leading to tails not noticing at first. Plus he's concerned about restoring the world, not how different Sonic look, and besides Amy and eggman has confused shadow with Sonic in sa2, so I'm giving tails a pass.

Alright now let's talk about the sa1 flashbacks. Why didn't they use the classic designs?

Simple: because why bother making NEW character models and/or reusing beta dreamcast models for the characters that are only gonna be seen for a few seconds? It doesn't really make much sense to make new models for these

Plus the environments don't match any of the levels from the games that the scenes is based on. Amy's flashback features beta windy vally and egg carrier as the png images, BUT the scenes are meant to be little planet from CD due to metal Sonic's presence. And tails takes place in the mystic ruins, which isn't located on Sonic 2's island. Really these flashbacks shouldn't be taken seriously visually, as although they're based on Sonic 2 and CD, the scenes has visual inaccuracies (because why make new assets for them?) that it shouldn't be taken 100% into account.

Really, I think the answer is pretty simple for how to explain the classic designs but I don't see many people use it as a solution.

#sonic the hedgehog #Sonic adventure 1 #sonic generations

roger-s-maracas

Found this on Twitter, so I thought, why not posting it here and doing a tag game 😊

Ok, I’ll go first

If he is the reason, I’d go to prison gladly 🥰❤️‍🔥

Tagging: @killerqueen-ofwillowgreen @nic-214 @milkyway-ashes @dr-radiation @whitequeen-ofwillowgreen @sunsetdaydreamer @therockywhorerpictureshow @delicatelyfantasticninja and everyone 😊

Sorry if I forgot to tag some of you!

gokbukesstuff

Limon why?????

@anarcho-boykisserism @p2ii @hyperfixatezz @fandomjumper247 @pandurso @ghosts-station we're bothering yall

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glaceon 😔 (picture credit to front-facing-pokemon)

@k0nakona @hamuletta @mcity-xe @lavalamp-juice hi

lavalamp-juice

@kiwi-tmntfan @literally-just-existing @rain-is-studying @ghostenluvs @that-coolllama

literally-just-existing

sorry for having the cutest kitty in the world (her name is WEWE <3)

@zomb3e-boy-lol @oklotea @peabeanmilk @mitzysmitzy @thunderstomm-extra

oklotea

BEARRRRRR

@walrus150915 @themysterybelow @gaydiation-poisoning @theantivoid-3 @seethesunny @chewbyhamm

gaydiation-poisoning

Yippee!!

@cage-with-human-soul-and-parts @rin--ren @for-a-new-life

device--conduct

image that came to mind as of late because it was stupidly funny. don't know who to tag for this so whoever wants to join is free to do so

aphantimes

hehhehee i have so many photos of her <3 im so glad this one happened to be the fifth she's so pretty here hehe

umm @nights-nonsensical-ramblings @charleecat-bat @forecast-rain hii? 👀

nights-nonsensical-ramblings

Damn it had been any number around 6 would’ve shown a kitty face, instead y’all get mr max deciding it’s time to leave: (ft my dread sticker and portal tshirt)

uui @quazart @mama-qwerty

mama-qwerty

My 5th picture

Tagging @multiisketch @skimmingthesurfaces and anyone else who'd like to play!

skimmingthesurfaces

My 5th picture 💖

Fiona greeting me as I come home from work~ she always waits by the door for me, then runs into my office to flop on the floor for pets 💖

Tagging @renofscales @sylreblogsstuff @seldompathic @0vergrowngraveyard @1upniall and anyone else who wants to play!

0vergrowngraveyard

this hamster i saw at petsmart. i thought he was pretty neat. had a good vibe

tags: @brainworms-all-night-long @multiisketch @star-stages @sookilini @niyana-the-ambiguous-mobian @myymi and anyone else!

multiisketch

Got tagged twice!

A lot of the early photos in my phone are pretty private, but this was the first one after all those that isn't!

I @ whoever wants to participate since most of my moots are already here lol

missextralife

Nah I'm going to prision just for reading a fanfic

mikey-2003

Going to prison for drawing ratchet from ratchet and clank apparently.

bi-is-beautifull

mikey-2003

Thanks.

Welp I got super bored, so I decided to do some height differences.

Image one is the boom characters height difference from the modern characters.

Image 2 is the movie characters compared to their modern characters (based off of measuring a 188cm man (Jim Carrey eggman), so they're taller than their modern characters by default here.)

Image 3 is comparing modern eggman's canon height (185cm) to Jim Carrey's height (188cm.)

Image 4 is comparing AOSTH eggman (Satam eggman's height should be the same tbh.) to his classic counterpart, by scaling both versions of sonic in this image.

Hey I drew tails and knuckles.

Yeah I decided to do the NPC colors from sonic 3. Just cuz it looked funny. XD

#miles tails prower #knuckles the echidna

See I can draw other sonic characters:

Amy rose. (Classic and modern)

Blaze the cat.

Sonic the hedgehog (classic and modern)

Shadow the hedgehog.

I may draw eggman alot... BUT I can do other characters, so here.

#sonic the hedgehog #amy rose #shadow the hedgehog #blaze the cat

Dr eggman's name... A useless name discussion, that should have just honestly die out years ago, because... I'll be honest this is just stupid.

BOTH sides of the argument are stupid to be honest, the American purists who preferred the name robotnik due it sounding more intimidating, and the Japanese purists who preferred eggman due to it being the original Japan vision and also just hating American influence.

Just.... Okay let's just get this over with by describing the history of his name:

In the original Japanese version of the games, he was primarily called Dr eggman and still is to this day, he is called that primarily due to... Idk, being a fat evil guy. Tho its also theorized he was named after a lyric from the Beatles song "I am the walrus", which technically isn't far fetch? He did have a walrus like triangles in his classic outfit.

In the English translations of the games up until 1997, he was called Dr ivo (pronounced ee-vo) robotnik. He was named in the USA by dean sitton and the name Ivo was chosen because it sounded similar to evil. I did hear that robotnik was chosen cuz it sounded like "worker" in Russia, but I haven't found a source on that... That and it's "rabochiy", not "robotnik" in Russia that translates to worker.

Then like, idk, around 1997, he is referred to as both eggman and robotnik in both English and Japan. Sonic jam's official bio in Japan (despite its... Weird inaccuracies to his characterization) is the first time the name Ivo robotnik is used.

Now there's also another factor into WHEN he is named in canon, so... I'll make most of the post talking about this (cuz I need an excuse to make it longer. TvT)

In the English translation of sonic adventure 1, they gave him the name Dr robotnik like all the other games pre-1998.

But In The original Japanese version, he is still referred to as Dr eggman. So... That means he is never referred to as robotnik in Japan aside from sonic jam right? Well... no actually.

He has the name "robotnik" on screen in his cutscene where he destroys half of the moon and this is also present in the Japanese original as well, not an additional change in the English dub. (This isn't going into maria and Gerald btw)

So in English it is implied that he was called eggman since at the very earliest sonic CD (due to amy calling him that) but didn't change his name until after SA1, and in Japanese, it is heavily implied that he was called eggman since BEFORE the original game's story happened due to them meeting before it. I personally prefer Japan's implications for his name change as it is much easier to think about since he has been enemies already, but it doesn't really matter either way.

Now why did he change his name to eggman? Believe it or not, the information for his name change isn't exactly consistent.

Tailstube's explanation: https://youtu.be/TfYieaXmqrA?feature=shared

He referred to himself as eggman due to being fed up with Sonic's nicknaming him that, suggesting he did it out of pure spite than anything.

BUT.. and I'm going EXCLUSIVELY on frontiers' Japanese translation on the explanation since the English version of his egg memo didn't really help with the explanation at all.

The reason he changed the name in this game was NOT out of pure spite, but because he actually likes the name anyway. So he wasn't even offended by the name eggman to begin with unlike the tailstube's implications.

I prefer to go with japanese frontiers' explanation for the name change, cuz doing it due to being fed up sounds really stupid imo.

So why did they change the name so that he is called both? It's simple, it's so they can avoid confusion (especially because sonic and tails 2 (known as triple trouble in Japan) used the name robotnik prior to it even being canonized in 1997. Lol) of him having both names, so they change it to him having Ivo (still pronounced ee-vo btw) robotnik while his alias is now Dr eggman (basically now a supervillain ass name. XD). This is also so they can use the name Dr eggman in the English versions of the game to help unify all languages much better.

So... Yeah, he's called both, I don't see why anyone has a problem with accepting both.

People who grow up with USA stuff criticize this decision due to eggman sounding more "ridiculous" in itself... BUT to which I disagree because the name eggman ironically gives the character a more empowering feel, showing that Sonic's insults like that mean basically nothing to him and can turn it around. Plus saying robotnik sounds intimidating is kinda stupid imo, because I'd argue if you think about it, BOTH names are kinda equally stupid. So does it really matter? It's just a name.

People who love the Japan stuff criticize the robotnik name being canonized cuz it is American influence and also that it "makes no sense with Japan's naming system of using your first name.".. first off, that's false as Japanese people DO use their last name after a title. The only reason they used the first name in say, Gerald, is because his name is different from eggman's name, so obviously it is to avoid confusion but also, you don't use the first name anyway until you have a familiar relationship. (And since I should bring this up the reason doctor brief in dragon ball is using his first name is cuz dragon ball characters don't have last names anyway minus Goku's family. XD)

Plus it makes sense to canonize robotnik cuz... Can you imagine calling them "maria eggman" and "Gerald eggman"? It sounds weird to say. Lol plus they did this to expand on his family as he didn't have a confirmed family up until SA2, so like... Yeah why not use robotnik as a family name?

Me personally, I love both names. I do however used the name eggman much more as he was technically conceptualize with that name to begin with, plus I grew up with it, PLUS... Idk, I just feel like I'm more used to it. That's really the only reasons I used eggman more than robotnik, otherwise yes I love both.

BONUS NAME POINTS:

In the USA lore and fleetway lore, Ivo robotnik is backwards for ovi kintobor as he was originally a good scientist before becoming evil.

In AOSTH, Ivo was mispronounced as "eye-vo" which caused many misinformation surrounding his name pronounation. The sonic 3 movie, knuckles show and English tailstube unfortunately uses this name error, but Japan tailstube calls him ee-vo.

In the Archie comics, he was originally called Julian kintobor before changing his name to ivo robotnik... Idk why.

In the 1993 Saturday morning show, his full name is Julian robotnik, disregarding Ivo entirely.

In sonic boom, it's unknown if eggman is even his real name or not due to his father being called that. Either they both have the same alias or that's their real last name in the boom continuity

In the 2020 sonic movies, his name is exactly the same as the games implications, tho as of sonic 3, he still hasn't referred to himself as eggman yet, so right now, it's just SA1 English dub's implications (as in he's not referring to himself as eggman, only his enemies are) for now. This might change in sonic 4 tho.

And uh, yeah that's it, btw.

#doctor eggman #doctor robotnik #sonic the hedgehog #ivo robotnik #sonic 3

mikey-2003

Wait, how is movie eggman 70 years old?

He is 40 years younger than Gerald.

110 - 40 = 70.

Bruh... Game eggman is still early 60s, Jim carrey himself is still in his 70s, and somehow Jim's version of eggman is older than BOTH his actor and the original game character.

Damn.

mikey-2003

Okay correction eggman in the games is technically 65.

Still technically younger than his film counterpart. XD

Wait, how is movie eggman 70 years old?

He is 40 years younger than Gerald.

110 - 40 = 70.

Bruh... Game eggman is still early 60s, Jim carrey himself is still in his 70s, and somehow Jim's version of eggman is older than BOTH his actor and the original game character.

Damn.

Ok I think I'm done with deleting some posts.

francoisl-artblog

Do you think they had time to try the food during their time at Mexico ?

They're time hiding from the government wasn't probably their glorious moments, but they sure spent that time together.

(No, I'm not ready to talk about that ending)

Sonic Materials (c) SEGA & Paramount

Artwork made by me.

mikey-2003

Still the best Dr eggman/Dr robotnik fan artist I've seen.

Don't mind me, just here to delete some posts here cuz.. I'm honestly not really proud of any of them.

Alright, time to clear something up about my account as an eggman fan:

I love BOTH the game version and movie version. Do I love one more over the other? Yes, absolutely. Movie eggman is kinda... Not that good compared to video game eggman In terms of characterization, as Jim Carrey's take is more about playing as himself rather than being 100% like eggman.

However, I'll be lying if I said I didn't find Jim carrey's take isn't enjoyable. If anything, I unironically say he is better than most adaptations of eggman (primarily boom and ova, I dislike those versions of Dr eggman himself). That doesn't mean I think he is the best version, if anything there are parts where Jim's version did annoy me a little bit like how he still isn't called "eggman" yet, he needed to be fatter especially in 3, he definitely needed animals inside robots, and I did wish Jim did more than play his usual self. Are there obviously stuff I would write differently? Of course.

BUT I enjoy both versions even if I love the game version more, so this account is basically just "games + movies" related stuff, so... Yeah.

Anyways that's about it for this post. Just thought I'd make that clarification. I prefer game eggman more, but I still enjoy the film version. (Kinda like my opinion on the marvel super hero iron man. I consider his comic incarnation the best, but did found some enjoyment in some of his adaptations.)

#doctor eggman #doctor robotnik #sonic the hedgehog

is there anything that would get you to forgive random the fox?

I mean, I guess part of me just wished he wouldn't hate on other fans.

I mean I get his point that other adaptations aren't as good as the original games, like I do understand it, and even I didn't like some adaptations, but... Idk, I guess I just want him to stop hating on other people that do like them, that is all..

Oh yeah, finished this style too.