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[helhauus]

the dance of lovers

(heavily inspired by and based on j.c. leyendecker’s painting “couple dancing”)

a ramble on some of the detailing and symbolism that some of you might be curious about:

it’s meant to be danton dancing with the ghost of his first wife, gabrielle, as she had unfortunately died young in 1793. but when it comes to the details firstly there are the small lily motifs which are meant to showcase the life and death cycle. the one nearest to danton is meant to represent how his death is nigh whereas with gabrielle hers is reversed to illustrate how she may have perhaps instead been reinvigorated of life in whichever afterlife she would be in (if you believe in that sort of thing). the delicate red motifs are similar where with danton, obviously, it’s a reference to his later execution- nothing specific with gabrielle, however. last thing to note might be their facial expressions as gabrielle is as serene as she could be whereas danton appears more complex and perhaps cautious or ever-so-slightly fearful as he maybe fearing for his own self when it comes to his life as he certainly knew what laid before him.

i hope you enjoyed reading that ramble! lol

some of these wips were already posted before,, but whatever:

[theorahsart]

Incorruptible Chap 4 pt 25

OMG we finally finished chapter 4 omgggg it only took over a year 😭 A friendly reminder that you can buy vol 1 of Incorruptible here, both the print version or a pdf if you want to pay whatever price you want for it~

Also...lol a comment @anotherhumaninthisworld made before, made me wanna add this:

I wanted to add all the ways they f*cked each other over to end up in their end situations but...there is no room. Guess I'll hafta draw it all out in the comic lmao

[tankmangambit]

Yesterday was jean paul marat's birthday!!! Yay!!!

[helvidius]

redrew this Tree from like a year ago

[mozslvt]

Sometimes I remember that *one* of the reasons Robespierre wore his wig so much was because he had a receding hairline and I let out a chuckle

[misscalming]

I raise you. Shitty microbangs. Someone reblog me with the proof. This shit is lost media in my phone.

[dorodne-zuki]

i might make a sticker out of him... polish cons get ready...

[misscalming]

My bitch pose NASTY

[misscalming]

I’m reaching levels of niche never reached before

[misscalming]

You could get Danton to say anything you wanted on Cameo for $20 in the modern world.

[sjsweakestsoldier2]

up the royalists, Danton?

[cheeri1yfrancis]

frev as tumblr (?) textposts pt.2/?

[misscalming]

“Daddy has been sentenced to death”

[misscalming]

You could get Danton to say anything you wanted on Cameo for $20 in the modern world.

[secondjulia]

Look, that whole marriage alliance thing worked for centuries, we're not going to give up on it now!

Sorry, my brain has gotten lost down a very silly detour 🙃

Ok, so maybe marrying off random representatives/citizens isn't going to work. The whole point is to get enemies to make peace, right?!

Which pairing of rivals saves the Revolution?

Camille & Saint-Just

Camille & Brissot

Brissot & Robespierre

Robespierre & Pétion

Pétion & Princess Elizabeth

Other (For the sake of the patrie you must share!)

Voting ended onMay 17

[misscalming]

This post is certified Danton-phobic.

Hijacking this post

Danton & Robespierre

Robespierre & Danton

Voting ended onMay 15

[misscalming]

I didn’t make the timer for this poll long enough but second highest amount of votes as of when it expired. Àbt 29 to 27 is à good effort. Thanks to everyone who voted ànd made me feel better àbt my fave pairing being erased. Again. Because danton was à bad person ànd therefore can never be included in fandom discussion EVER!

[misscalming]

Everyday I serve this fandom pathetic 6’2 fat man dinner ànd am treated like SHIT as thanks

[misscalming]

vampire robespierre

I wrote some lore for my own twist on the whole vampire Robespierre concept I’ll make à post abt it soon I have more art. (Creds to @revolutionarywig for inspo how the actual fuck did those hats work, I just drew some bullshit)

[secondjulia]

Look, that whole marriage alliance thing worked for centuries, we're not going to give up on it now!

Sorry, my brain has gotten lost down a very silly detour 🙃

Ok, so maybe marrying off random representatives/citizens isn't going to work. The whole point is to get enemies to make peace, right?!

Which pairing of rivals saves the Revolution?

Camille & Saint-Just

Camille & Brissot

Brissot & Robespierre

Robespierre & Pétion

Pétion & Princess Elizabeth

Other (For the sake of the patrie you must share!)

Voting ended onMay 17

[misscalming]

This post is certified Danton-phobic.

Hijacking this post

Danton & Robespierre

Robespierre & Danton

Voting ended onMay 15

[saintjustitude]

I would like to note that by pointing out facts that confirm Robespierre's closeness to Saint-Just (such as this one), I am not arguing that he was only ever close to him and no one else. That's a bad faith reading of my argument. We know he was close to others such as Pétion, Desmoulins or even Danton - or he wouldn't have written such an intense letter to the latter after the death of his wife. I am not erasing the fact of these relationships, so don't erase the one he had with Saint-Just. The only difference is that the former relationships ended (and quite abruptly too).

I chose to focus on one relationship. It doesn't mean I don't believe others existed. The reason I post about this one relationship is that many people, in 200 years, have sought to diminish, vilify, distort or erase it. Couthon was a close friend to them both, but also no one wastes ink to deny it.

(If I focus mainly on Élisabeth Duplay-Le Bas, it's not because I don't care about other women who lived through the French Revolution or deny they exist, it's because I focused my studies on her.)

[misscalming]

Reading through this ànd giggling bcs I can’t stop thinking about when Danton ànd Robespierre had one of their awkward dinner dates ànd he started off using “Tu” but he was said to have switched back to “Vous” ànd i àlways imagine Robespierre giving him the nastiest blank stare 😭. “Hey Buddy!” “…” “okay- not buddies, not my buddy- message received”

Which is à case in point that it wasn’t formal language lol.

Edit: someone tried to explain to me “vous” was like- something you called someone- you look up to/see as à superior. Not to say danton couldn’t grovel but kind of hard to believe he’d use subservient language? Àt àny rate it seems “Tu” was socially inappropriate for their relationship àt that time. Given the fact he seems to have dropped it quickly in response to Robespierre’s perceived cold reception.

[saintjustitude]

"Vous" is actually much more complicated than that! This is the formal polite address for people you're not familiar with but some people might continue using it as a form of respect. Fun story: I use it with my thesis adviser and he uses it with me even though we've known each other for, well, almost 20 years now. 😅 We tried to switch to "tu" at one point but instantly dropped it because we're two poorly socialized awkward nerds. (In Quebec, using "tu" is much more common for gens X, Y and Z, unless you went to a private high school where they drilled you to use "vous" - like I did. France, however, is much more strict about the "vous".) That's one of the cases I meant in my other post when I talked about how it can be complicated. It can indicate a sort of polite distance between people, but upper-class couples used it for each other in the 19th century. I don't actually know all the specifics, not even on the late 18th century which I know more about.

Depending on the date (whenwas it? can I read the anecdote?), it's possible the "vous" was just more commonly used among people of their class and in the social setting it might have seemed out of place. Danton seems to be more easy-going, so that he would try to get familiar seems obvious with his temperament! Hence why Le Bas also seems more hesitant to use it, but even Saint-Just does at first when addressing Pichegru.

There's a letter from 1791 that Marguerite Chalabre (she only signs Chalabre without a "de" so it's possible she's dropped it by that time) wrote to Robespierre. While she still uses the "vous", her post-scriptum indicates: "You will approve that I have removed the servile customary forms." Now what she means is that at the end of her letter, she didn't add the (extremely annoying lol) phrase that usually goes "I am your most loyal, indebted, faithful, submissive servant" (I'm exaggerating but you get the point). I think it's super interesting to see how the formal styles of address and various titles or signs of status were progressively abandoned before we get to the very equalitarian phase of Year II!!

As for Saint-Just... well, like I said, everything about him is political (because the personal is political etc.) but he does have a genuinely friendly side: he just keeps it extremely hidden because he wants to be taken seriously and projects a certain image of himself. That's what I and others call his "mask" (aka his mask of marble and ice). You see it very clearly in Élisabeth Duplay-Le Bas' memoirs: when he's alone with her, Henriette and Philippe Le Bas, he's very accommodating and friendly. The moment they arrive in Saverne though, it's serious business, and he becomes stern again. However, I would argue he's not necessarily being rude so much as not performing gallantry - he seems to be talking to the two young women the same way he would talk to young men. (I have one or two posts about that in my drafts.) Moreover, when the elderly Élisabeth was shown the portrait Lamartine wrote of Saint-Just as someone cold who had drained himself of all feelings, she told her son that she did not recognize him there. In some ways, his self-propaganda was a bit too effective.

[misscalming]

I have- now regrettably- left my book back in Queensland due to weight restrictions on my flight- I’d finished it ànd logically just brought some unread books with me to Melbourne. I will leave some clues? If someone can help me. It was either the first or second attempt they had àt reconciliation. Sooo- March 1794? There was à dinner host, I believe it MAY have been their meeting in the Hamlet of Charenton. (Which I have written down but not the date or name of their host for god knows what reason) The host is the one to claim the use of Tu ànd Vous. But I cannot remember his name for the life of me.

[misscalming]

Day #ruined

[saintjustitude]

I would like to note that by pointing out facts that confirm Robespierre's closeness to Saint-Just (such as this one), I am not arguing that he was only ever close to him and no one else. That's a bad faith reading of my argument. We know he was close to others such as Pétion, Desmoulins or even Danton - or he wouldn't have written such an intense letter to the latter after the death of his wife. I am not erasing the fact of these relationships, so don't erase the one he had with Saint-Just. The only difference is that the former relationships ended (and quite abruptly too).

I chose to focus on one relationship. It doesn't mean I don't believe others existed. The reason I post about this one relationship is that many people, in 200 years, have sought to diminish, vilify, distort or erase it. Couthon was a close friend to them both, but also no one wastes ink to deny it.

(If I focus mainly on Élisabeth Duplay-Le Bas, it's not because I don't care about other women who lived through the French Revolution or deny they exist, it's because I focused my studies on her.)

[misscalming]

Reading through this ànd giggling bcs I can’t stop thinking about when Danton ànd Robespierre had one of their awkward dinner dates ànd he started off using “Tu” but he was said to have switched back to “Vous” ànd i àlways imagine Robespierre giving him the nastiest blank stare 😭. “Hey Buddy!” “…” “okay- not buddies, not my buddy- message received”

Which is à case in point that it wasn’t formal language lol.

Edit: someone tried to explain to me “vous” was like- something you called someone- you look up to/see as à superior. Not to say danton couldn’t grovel but kind of hard to believe he’d use subservient language? Àt àny rate it seems “Tu” was socially inappropriate for their relationship àt that time. Given the fact he seems to have dropped it quickly in response to Robespierre’s perceived cold reception.