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[munaymunchter]

Good Omens season 3 Spoilers ahead....

I don't actually know how to feel, I can't say that I disliked the ending, I actually liked some thing but also disliked others, I always disliked the theory of them ending up as humans and they actually did... So I have mixed feelings, because even though I would have liked that they stayed together as an angel and a demon for eternity, the decision that they made, it actually makes so much sense, they always cared about the humans and they always hated this "good and bad" morality, so I really liked the resolution for the humans and Crowley's "question" that he was once punished for asking, but as for Aziraphale and Crowley it's a bittersweet ending, they practically die and reincarnate in another universe, and even though it's cute that they end up together and marrying each other like meaning that they found each other in every universe, it's not actually them, it's another variant and it sad that after knowing each other for 6000 years they don't end up together, but at the same time it's cute that a variant from them could finally be happy and be free from those chains and responsibility that both of them had.

The Jesus storyline was kinda meh, I liked it, it was entertaining and he was so cute, but it wasn't necessary, when they found out that Jesus disappeared they wanted to find him but when they found him they left for the book of life, so he wasn't important in the storyline of the second coming. It was rushed, it was obvious that Jesus had to appear on the show but they had no time, such a shame if they had a whole season I'm sure they would have made him more interconnected with the main plot.

What I missed the most is them saying "I love you" to each other, it's criminal that they didn't say it when they were disappearing, I really don't care that they didn't kiss because their relationship has always been more than just physical contact, but they should have said I love you.

But to be honest for a movie that was just one hour and a half they did a great job, it has the vibe of good omens (the humour, the timing, etc). I wished they could have done an entire season because the audience maybe would have been more prepared for that ending and we could have seen more of their dynamic, but they couldn't, so I'm kinda heartbroken but also emotional for the ending, even though the "in another universe" thing it's kinda cliché that I'm not very found of, because at the end of the day they are not the same characters that we grow up through the show and it's sad to see them die and not only them but practically the entire universe, it's like destroying all the story at the end and make it a new one and I don't really like it because you basically erase the world building of good omens, I understand the logic behind it and even if it's sad and tragic, and I say it as a person that HATES when the show kills main characters just for the shake of it, but Aziraphale and Crowley's sacrifice makes sense with their values and morales about them always wanting the best for humans because they were the only ones to care about them and as they said "this is bigger than you and me", so even if it's depressing, their sacrifices were important for the narrative, they didn't kill them just for shocking value, their death had a purpose that encapsulated their grey morality conflict dynamic with heaven and hell, basically saying to them "we are better than you" and I really liked that, how at the end they were their own team and they "won".

I already miss them so much, at least I'm happy that they meet again in another universe, because at the end the lesson is that it doesn't matter if they are angels, demons or humans, they will always love each other because that's the foundation of their dynamic 💔❤️

[caio-silva]

who does dean winchester love?

[munaymunchter]

Oh no... I watched a destiel edit with purple rain

[reluctantbylerblog]

I actually think el asking mike if they would be like siblings is really sad. she didn't know what a friend was. her only terms for close relationships are familial (papa, brothers and sisters). the only word she has to conceptualize closeness between two people of close age is fraternal.

I find her getting her first kiss without even knowing about the concept of romantic love, let alone kissing, even sadder. she was never exposed to parents kissing, or saw an older sister getting her first boyfriend. she's only known about the concept of friendship for about a week by that point. it doesn't feel cute to me, once I actually start thinking about her life experience up to that point. it's really, really sad. she didn't need a boyfriend. she was 12. her romantic feelings, her desires, they were never taken into account, even by the writers. it's why we never hear what she likes about mike, because from the beginning that didn't matter to the duffers. she was always just a tool for mike to get his first kiss and his first girlfriend and his first heartbreak. they used her to validate their own fantasies

[munaymunchter]

The Duffers just used her for Mike's character which is disgusting and also such a bad character choice, because they didn't even make Mike a good written character. They wasted both of their characters and threw them in the trash.

[reluctantbylerblog]

I actually think el asking mike if they would be like siblings is really sad. she didn't know what a friend was. her only terms for close relationships are familial (papa, brothers and sisters). the only word she has to conceptualize closeness between two people of close age is fraternal.

I find her getting her first kiss without even knowing about the concept of romantic love, let alone kissing, even sadder. she was never exposed to parents kissing, or saw an older sister getting her first boyfriend. she's only known about the concept of friendship for about a week by that point. it doesn't feel cute to me, once I actually start thinking about her life experience up to that point. it's really, really sad. she didn't need a boyfriend. she was 12. her romantic feelings, her desires, they were never taken into account, even by the writers. it's why we never hear what she likes about mike, because from the beginning that didn't matter to the duffers. she was always just a tool for mike to get his first kiss and his first girlfriend and his first heartbreak. they used her to validate their own fantasies

[lesikm]

As much as I love to joke about Mike being a demogorgon, I actually dislike any theories that place Mike at the center of all supernatural, because I think that goes against the core of his character. The important thing about Mike is that there's nothing special about him. That's his main conflict. That's why he started dating El in the first place. He thought that dating a cool girl with superpowers would make him cool too, but as it turned out, you can't really brag about a girlfriend whose existence you can't even tell anyone about because she's hiding from the government. And his friends couldn't care less about their relationship too. To them, El is El, and Mike is still the same Mike they've always known, except now he's even more annoying. He also knows that the only reason El "chose him" was because she simply needed someone, and he happened to be the first person she came across. That's why he's so fixated on being needed by the people he cares about, and feels useless when they don't need him, since he believes that's his only value.

[lesikm]

[munaymunchter]

Fucking hate the trope of female characters suffering their entire life to ending up death at the end of the show.

[munaymunchter]

The rage I had when Hopper said to El that one day when she has kids she can give them the life she never had.

WHY THE FUCK CAN'T SHE GIVE HERSELF THE LIFE SHE NEVER HAD???

I'm so tired of this fucking misogyny in those messages, this is not even implicit anymore, it's fully directly telling her that her only option in life is having a baby and giving them a good life instead of encouraging her to have a life for herself??? Wtf she's only 16 YEARS OLD!!! And when the fuck did Jane said that she wanted to have kids??

I hated so much Hopper in that scene, I literally saw society's misogyny in that fucking speech.

I just hate how every fucking female character ending is pushed to have babies and a family when they never actually say on the show that they want to! Meanwhile this NEVER happens with male characters, male's characters dreams and endings are never about them wishing to have a family just because they love the idea of that, no, it's always them being rich or being successful but never them actually acting like good husbands or fathers.

[munaymunchter]

What hurts the most about Byler is knowing that they would have made each other SO happy, they would have completed each other so much, they were literally soulmates before the Duffers destroyed them.

[munaymunchter]

I haven't watched Euphoria and I won't, but giving the message to the audience that a person who has an addiction will die anyways even if she/he is trying to change and rehab, it's not a good message.

"It's a realistic ending" yeah it is, for some people, but saying that people who are addicts only ending is death is tragic and not true.

[thoraelrlffnem]

Season 5 should've resolved the previous plotlines, not introduced new ones

Season 5 should've focused on the actual main characters, not a bunch of new ones

Season 5 should've had the apocalyptic theme they left off season 4 in, not just covering the upside down with metal bars and call it a day

Season 5 should've had the core four be together, not being seperated again

Season 5 should've given Jane independence, not making her entirely dependant on men like she had always been and not even making her last moments about herself.

Season 5 should've developed Steve and Nancys platonic bond, not forcing Steves romantic feelings again

Season 5 should've either bought Will and Mike together or fixed Mike and Jane, not just ignoring their problems and leaving it ambigious if they were dating to queerbait us

Season 5 should've given Will a love interest, not an imaginary epilogue boyfriend

Season 5 should've focused on Mike and Nancy, not Holly

Season 5 should've created new iconic moments, not try to recreate prior seasons iconic moments (and fail)

Season 5 should've given Lucas his own arc, not just make him Max' boyfriend

Season 5 should've made Erica a main character, not sideline her give her a total of 15 minutes screentime

Season 5 should've made the painting pay off, not just abandoning it yet still putting it in the epilogue

Season 5 should've focused on being its own thing, not just nostalgiabait

Season 5 should've been for the outcasts and freaks, not the tiktok fans who probably forgot about the show until the trailer came out

[l0sersitsbyherself]

not Netflix using milkvan for promo but using a photo where MIKE IS LOOKING AT WILL… the jokes write themselves at this point

[munaymunchter]

"Mike is too upset to answer back" that shit is so fucking funny but at the same time is so sad how they made Jane's death about Mike, are you for real that Mike didn't tell El that he loved her back just because he was upset? Imagine being her??? That she is going to fucking die! And poor Mike is very upset so he can't say I love you to his girlfriend 🥺 omg the award for the most egocentric boyfriend goes to Mike Wheeler... Omfg the way they destroyed his character after season 2 is insane.

And the way in the original script they weren't even going to kiss🫪 (I would have preferred it, at least I wouldn't have had to watch the most uncomfortable and non chemistry kiss I have ever seen in television)

[autistic-trans-gay-aro-mike-w]

I actually think that Will having hope that Mike liked him back in season 5 was supposed to be making fun of Bylers unfortunately… like basically saying “lol you thought that Mike liked him back??? So did Will and he’s a fool too just like you”

[withoutheartwedallfallapart]

It's so funny that st ended up ultimately being a show about leaving childhood behind when I always thought their final message would (and should have been) that you don't necessarily have to stop "being a kid" when you grow into adulthood.

I've never stopped loving the things I loved as a kid and I think that's what has kept me sane through the years. I feel like I have more joy in my life than most people my age because of that. And I loved stranger things because I thought the show shared that value. I thought it would encourage people to keep being themselves even as they age.

But no. Once you graduate high school you should stop playing games. And you shouldn't fight to keep your childhood friends in your life. Just let it go, grow up and live with the good memories. That's what the final message of Stranger Things was and it fucking broke my heart.

[90shorrorpaperback]

They also seemed to work double time to send the message that once you become a teenager, friendships are only necessary until you can manage to get into a romantic relationship. And that once you start dating someone, any friendships you had are superfluous and should be sacrificed for the sake of focusing on your romantic relationship.

They made sure to stress this with Mike and Will during S4. When Mike goes to Lenora, he gives Will the cold shoulder because Will isn't his girlfriend. He also stresses that he didn't need to call Will often and certainly couldn't write to him either, because they were not dating.

It sends a terrible message, especially when you consider the fact that the Duffers were writing for a cishet Gen Z male audience - who are experiencing a global male loneliness epidemic. I can't imagine why they thought discouraging the cultivation and maintenance of friendships amongst a demographic that is prone to suicide and high depression rates because they struggle to make friends and form social bonds was a good idea.

And this isn't even to mention how they destroyed the core four's friendship as a whole, and acted as though El and Max were barely more than strangers in the end.

[munaymunchter]

I had the same thought when the show ended, I also didn't like how it ended by separating the whole group. I understand that they obviously are gonna make their own path, but after everything that they have gone through, separating them and making them apart I don't think it was the best decision, they didn't even give as a proof that they are still in contact in the future.

[90shorrorpaperback]

They also didn't give Max or Lucas real endings. "They're still in a romantic relationship." So what? Anyone who isn't an incel realizes that there's a lot more to life than dating someone. Did they go to college? Move somewhere else? Get jobs? Continue with their hobbies and interests?

[munaymunchter]

I was really convinced that Max's future was gonna be that she becomes a professional skate boarding and showing us that she is in a competition, but I guess that her figure is just being Luca's girlfriend.

Same with Lucas by being a professional basketball player or something related with science idk, but I guess he is just Max's boyfriend.... 🙃

[withoutheartwedallfallapart]

It's so funny that st ended up ultimately being a show about leaving childhood behind when I always thought their final message would (and should have been) that you don't necessarily have to stop "being a kid" when you grow into adulthood.

I've never stopped loving the things I loved as a kid and I think that's what has kept me sane through the years. I feel like I have more joy in my life than most people my age because of that. And I loved stranger things because I thought the show shared that value. I thought it would encourage people to keep being themselves even as they age.

But no. Once you graduate high school you should stop playing games. And you shouldn't fight to keep your childhood friends in your life. Just let it go, grow up and live with the good memories. That's what the final message of Stranger Things was and it fucking broke my heart.

[90shorrorpaperback]

They also seemed to work double time to send the message that once you become a teenager, friendships are only necessary until you can manage to get into a romantic relationship. And that once you start dating someone, any friendships you had are superfluous and should be sacrificed for the sake of focusing on your romantic relationship.

They made sure to stress this with Mike and Will during S4. When Mike goes to Lenora, he gives Will the cold shoulder because Will isn't his girlfriend. He also stresses that he didn't need to call Will often and certainly couldn't write to him either, because they were not dating.

It sends a terrible message, especially when you consider the fact that the Duffers were writing for a cishet Gen Z male audience - who are experiencing a global male loneliness epidemic. I can't imagine why they thought discouraging the cultivation and maintenance of friendships amongst a demographic that is prone to suicide and high depression rates because they struggle to make friends and form social bonds was a good idea.

And this isn't even to mention how they destroyed the core four's friendship as a whole, and acted as though El and Max were barely more than strangers in the end.

[munaymunchter]

I had the same thought when the show ended, I also didn't like how it ended by separating the whole group. I understand that they obviously are gonna make their own path, but after everything that they have gone through, separating them and making them apart I don't think it was the best decision, they didn't even give as a proof that they are still in contact in the future.

[withoutheartwedallfallapart]

It's so funny that st ended up ultimately being a show about leaving childhood behind when I always thought their final message would (and should have been) that you don't necessarily have to stop "being a kid" when you grow into adulthood.

I've never stopped loving the things I loved as a kid and I think that's what has kept me sane through the years. I feel like I have more joy in my life than most people my age because of that. And I loved stranger things because I thought the show shared that value. I thought it would encourage people to keep being themselves even as they age.

But no. Once you graduate high school you should stop playing games. And you shouldn't fight to keep your childhood friends in your life. Just let it go, grow up and live with the good memories. That's what the final message of Stranger Things was and it fucking broke my heart.

[90shorrorpaperback]

They also seemed to work double time to send the message that once you become a teenager, friendships are only necessary until you can manage to get into a romantic relationship. And that once you start dating someone, any friendships you had are superfluous and should be sacrificed for the sake of focusing on your romantic relationship.

They made sure to stress this with Mike and Will during S4. When Mike goes to Lenora, he gives Will the cold shoulder because Will isn't his girlfriend. He also stresses that he didn't need to call Will often and certainly couldn't write to him either, because they were not dating.

It sends a terrible message, especially when you consider the fact that the Duffers were writing for a cishet Gen Z male audience - who are experiencing a global male loneliness epidemic. I can't imagine why they thought discouraging the cultivation and maintenance of friendships amongst a demographic that is prone to suicide and high depression rates because they struggle to make friends and form social bonds was a good idea.

And this isn't even to mention how they destroyed the core four's friendship as a whole, and acted as though El and Max were barely more than strangers in the end.