[muslims-matters]

[muslims-matters]

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[muslims-matters]

[muslims-matters]

[shifa-ameen]

[biggest-hades-fan]

And…what exactly are these signs? The existence of hands? The existence of bones, or blood vessels, or ligaments?

You’ve resorted to a classic argument I like to call “I just say shit without evidence or elaboration,” and I find the hubris and arrogance of that genuinely fascinating. Where do you find the confidence to insult people who dare to have an intelligent thought or think critically for once in their lives? Where do you find the courage to call non-Muslims stupid when you’re the one blindly following a death cult established by a pedophile? Is your faith so fragile that you have to constantly redefine things as Allah’s creations instead?

If the existence of hands is sufficient proof they were made by Allah, then by the same logic it is also proof that humans were made from clay by Zeus and Jupiter. If the existence of complexity in nature is proof of Allah, then it is also proof of Jesus and Indra and Ra and Quetzalcoatl and Amaterasu. If the universe simply *existing* was proof it was made by Allah, who’s to say it wasn’t also made by Brahma, or Gok Tengri, or Olorun, or Ahura Mazda, or Kitche Manitou?

[muslims-matters]

You wrote three paragraphs of insults to avoid addressing a simple point: "This argument doesn't prove Islam specifically" is not the same as "this argument proves nothing." That's not skepticism. That's a category error wrapped in arrogance.

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You are so scared of my reply that you blocked my account.

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[plumpydoll]

Now that zionist occupation announced they are going to occupy all of Gaza, their genocidal intent is clear. This was always about ethnic cleansing. That's why they systematically destroyed Gaza and murdered so many civilians. If you still support Israel, you are openly in favor of genocide.

[muslims-matters]

[muppetrock]

calling out the institutionalized, deeply culturally ingrained antisemitism in islam and arab countries isn't islamophobic.

what's islamophobic is to hold them to a different standard. to act as if muslins are so unable to change that an evil aspect that has manifested in their spaces is somehow normal or okay.

muslims are capable of recognizing, addressing and pushing against antisemitism and they have. muslims deserve a space free from bigotry. all cultures with deeply ingrained forms of bigotry need to have that hate addressed.

it is not and should not be treated as expected or natural for jews and muslims to hate each other. we are family.

[muslims-matters]

Antisemitism in parts of the Muslim world absolutely exists and should be confronted honestly , just like Islamophobia, anti-Arab racism, and anti-Palestinian hatred should be. No culture or community is beyond criticism.

But people also need to stop pretending this hatred is ancient or inevitable. Jews and Muslims lived together for centuries in many places with far less violence than Jews faced in Christian Europe. Political conflict, occupation, war, propaganda, and nationalism have poisoned relations in modern times.

If the goal is coexistence, then both antisemitism and Islamophobia have to be rejected consistently , not weaponized depending on whose suffering is being discussed.

[muppetrock]

hi! your message is great but looking at your tags you're perpetuating the very antisemitism we're talking about. I really recommend doing some research and introspection because yikes!

[muslims-matters]

Criticizing the actions of the Israeli state or military is not inherently antisemitic, especially when thousands of children have objectively been killed in the conflict. Saying “Israel kills children” is describing a reality of war, not condemning Jews as a people.

Antisemitism is hatred of Jews for being Jewish. Opposition to a government’s actions , even harsh opposition , is political speech. Conflating the two makes it harder to identify actual antisemitism when it happens.

You need research yikes !

[muppetrock]

calling out the institutionalized, deeply culturally ingrained antisemitism in islam and arab countries isn't islamophobic.

what's islamophobic is to hold them to a different standard. to act as if muslins are so unable to change that an evil aspect that has manifested in their spaces is somehow normal or okay.

muslims are capable of recognizing, addressing and pushing against antisemitism and they have. muslims deserve a space free from bigotry. all cultures with deeply ingrained forms of bigotry need to have that hate addressed.

it is not and should not be treated as expected or natural for jews and muslims to hate each other. we are family.

[muslims-matters]

Antisemitism in parts of the Muslim world absolutely exists and should be confronted honestly , just like Islamophobia, anti-Arab racism, and anti-Palestinian hatred should be. No culture or community is beyond criticism.

But people also need to stop pretending this hatred is ancient or inevitable. Jews and Muslims lived together for centuries in many places with far less violence than Jews faced in Christian Europe. Political conflict, occupation, war, propaganda, and nationalism have poisoned relations in modern times.

If the goal is coexistence, then both antisemitism and Islamophobia have to be rejected consistently , not weaponized depending on whose suffering is being discussed.

[silly-little-zio]

if you want jews out of your country, you don’t get to keep our shit. you can’t use any yiddish sayings anymore like schmutz or nosh or klutz. you can’t have any jewish inventions either like instant cameras and cherry tomatoes and also the polio vaccine. it also means you can’t watch any movies made by jews or music made by jews or food made by jews. do you know how fucking boring life would get without us??

[muslims-matters]

Nobody serious is arguing Jews should be expelled from countries or erased from society. Jewish communities have contributed enormously to science, medicine, culture, philosophy, music, and technology , just like many other communities have.

But this “you benefit from Jewish contributions, therefore you can’t criticize Israel” argument doesn’t really work. Appreciating Jewish contributions to humanity is not the same thing as giving any government immunity from criticism.

[xclowniex2]

I love how in response to the point that israel is beneficial to jewish safety, goyische leftists have gone "have you tried wanting safety in the diaspora?" As if the want for safety being alledgedly "misplaced" is what caused antisemitism, and not that people hate jews.

I don't really have a strong urge to move to Israel. But if things get worse where i am, I may have to.

If that upsets you, you need to make the diaspora safer for jews.

[muslims-matters]

Nobody is saying Jews should just “accept” antisemitism in the diaspora. Jewish fear after centuries of persecution is understandable. But Palestinians also shouldn’t be expected to accept occupation, displacement, or bombardment as the price of Jewish safety.

Real safety cannot permanently depend on another people living without freedom or equal rights. Otherwise you’re not solving trauma , you’re transferring it.

[h4ganah]

I don't ever want to hear the disgusting and vile genocide libel again. It's infuriatingly fucking pathetic at this point.

If you, after seeing this, still continue to claim that Israel commited genocide, you just hate jews. Die mad about it, I don't care.

[muslims-matters]

One disputed statistic from a partisan social media post does not “end the debate,” especially when casualty figures, definitions of combatants, and independent verification remain heavily contested.

People calling what’s happening in Gaza a genocide are usually pointing to the scale of civilian deaths, destruction of infrastructure, starvation warnings, displacement, and statements from officials , not “because they hate Jews.” You can disagree with the term without turning millions of critics, including many Jews, into antisemites by default.

And honestly, reducing every argument to “you just hate Jews” weakens the fight against actual antisemitism because it treats political disagreement and racial hatred as the same thing.

[goose-onthe-loose]

Some of you are like "I'm fine with Jews just so long as they don't live in communities too large or have too much money or build community infrastructure or hold any political power or or or"

[muslims-matters]

Criticizing a state’s policies is not the same as saying Jews shouldn’t exist, succeed, organize, or have rights. Conflating opposition to Israeli government actions with hatred of Jews is exactly how legitimate criticism gets dismissed instead of answered.