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[ndiecity-deactivated20241101]

It’s a cold and it’s a broken eeby deeby legit I am just throwing shit at the wall at this point

[nopowerhere]

[nopowerhere]

[dashaibo]

This is why we need to bring back the gold standard

MFers think money grows on trees and printing cash won't result in a hyperinflation

[nopowerhere]

Nobody said print cash. Learn to read. Thanks.

[dashaibo]

Where do you think all this money is going to come from

[nopowerhere]

Did you see the part about the tax cuts? Did you know you can do that to other parts of the budget too?

You gonna have to learn to read and basic math if you wanna argue with people

[dashaibo]

That is not going to be nearly enough money, your country is already in ridiculous debt, corporations will just move their HWs elsewhere, you're going to live through another Weimar catastrophe.

[nopowerhere]

Lol k

Maybe if a certain trillion dollar tax cut was undone and maybe hiked up even further in addition to lowering congress and the senates pay to the median American income for the duration of the pandemic AND taking 10% of the defense budget would make a good start.

[hominish0stilis]

This will literally send inflation through the roof, just by doubling the min. wage.

>lowering congress and the senate’s pay

That’s a good idea, just not for the reason you think. That ought to be done regardless.

“Hike taxes” will again, just result in businesses moving their shit elsewhere. Your $15 min wage will already tank most of the small businesses that are left, now you want to make sure nobody has a job too?

Motherfuckers talking about “basic math” while shilling for policies that will absolutely trash everybody who’s not already rich and have little to no real consequences for everyone who is, because they’re stupid and don’t get how basic economics works.

[dainslefsblog]

Does that guy honestly think congress will vote to cut their own pay?  Holy shit.

[hominish0stilis]

The fact that they can vote on that at all is kind of a joke, and part of why they make stupid amounts of money with half the year as vacation time.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

The entire defense budget is less than the US spends on benefits and such already, IIRC. 10% of that isn't very much, actually.

It's only, what, 70 billion as of FY2019? And that's rounding up. Comes to $200 per person for the 2019 population.

NoPowerhere, as usual, just repeats NPC lines without thought.

[ngsb3]

Any time someone brings up the US cutting their defense budget, ask them which European country they're going to be telling to supply their own military from now on.

[theodoretheninja]

All of them. We should not be paying a cent for other countries' shit at all. My god, we could fix half our problems in under a decade of we weren't funding the rest of the planet. If we opened a portal to another dimension, the us government would sure as shit send a pallet of cash through first.

[nopowerhere]

Yes, literally make the world defend itself and use the money for our people. What the fuck is up with all this goddamn straw

[theodoretheninja]

It's not a straw man argument, it's my actual opinion. You can't honestly think we spend too much on the defense budget and then disagree that we waste a lot of money on providing a military force for dozens of other countries. They don't pay us tribute or taxes or provide us with a single benefit other than space for military bases we don't honestly need. We are trying to police the world and it is a giant waste of money. I don't care if france and germany go to war again. I don't care if japan invades china. It's not my business nor should it be my expense. Not when there are hungry and poor people here. Not when we are trillions of dollars in debt.

[nopowerhere]

No. As in I mean it. Literally.

Defund it and make the world defend itself

Our people are starving

[nopowerhere]

[nopowerhere]

[noblepeasant]

If we’re going to hold people responsible for what other people do in response to their rhetoric, then I hope to God y’all will support having AOC held responsible for the Tacoma attack.

[nopowerhere]

If there’s proof her words created a frenzy twice before and yet she incited a third time to over throw a fair election with false information and violence lemme know. Oh! And that the protesters started it and not other instigators.

If ya get all that wrapped up in a pretty package like they got on trump then absolutely.

So y’all gonna hold him accountable or whine and fingerpoint? Because “but theeeeey did it!” didn’t work in first grade either

[noblepeasant]

Her comparison of an ICE detention facility to a concentration camp inspired someone to try and blow one up. Does that count?

Either they both did something wrong, or neither of them did. I don’t care which one you pick, so long as you treat them both the same.

[nopowerhere]

Did she tell them to fight? Did she tell them that things not occuring were occuring? Did she tell them to “take (the facility) back” and “don’t roll over”?

I disagree.

Now Hilary and trump, THEY both did something wrong and they should both be treated the same.

Don’t be disingenuous just because AOC is in the democratic limelight atm. Don’t punch down for symbolism

[noblepeasant]

I’m not “punching down”, whatever that’s supposed to mean. I’m saying that the two have done similar things. One said that the election was stolen, the other said that the ICE facility was a concentration camp. As a result, someone tried to bomb the capitol building, and someone else tried to blow up the ICE facility. That seems like two very similar things to me.

[nopowerhere]

Slapping at the person it’s popular to slap at instead of actual problems. The difference is one person claimed falsely and ADVOCATED “FIGHTING” AND NOT “ROLLING OVER” TO DESTROY A FAIR ELECTION

And the other one called the ICE facilities inhumane, akin to concentration camps. Because they’re in inhumane conditions and people are dying. Other countries have also AGREED they’re akin to camps. America has had camps before, it’s not that crazy. Just because it isn’t operating a gas chamber doesn’t make it not one.

One didn’t win and get his way

The other people are actively starving and dying

They’re really just not terribly similar to me

[noblepeasant]

No, she just compared them to concentration camps and said “never again”, making a direct comparison to the Holocaust. How do you think people are gonna react when they hear “oh, by the way, there’s an Auschwitz in our borders and our government is fascist”? They ain’t gonna make daisy chains and sing Kumbaya!

We weren’t talking about the merits or the validty of the statements, we were talking about if Trump and AOC should be held responsible for what their supporters did. Your mask has slipped.

[nopowerhere]

Well it is true we said no to concentration camps ever again, that includes both the nazi type and any other kind.

Would you rather she downplay the disease and neglect? It’s not fun but it’s kinda important to know about and stop. It’s a real issue.

Validity and merits are part of inciting. My mask never slips nigga, got this shit on lock, no rona in my household. Swish.

[noblepeasant]

You’re clearly giving AOC the benefit because you think what she’s said is justified, and presumably the response is justified as well. That’s how your mask slipped. You ain’t looking at these two as “this person said X, and as a result, their supporter went out and did Y”, you’re looking at it as “person I like and support vs person I hate and oppose”.

I’m not trying to talk about validity or justification, I’m talking about responsibility. That can be a good thing or a bad thing. Is AOC responsible for inciting that attack, knowing that the language she used was inflammatory, using comparisons to the Nazis and explicitly calling the government fascist during a time when one of the slogans of supporters was a call to violence against Nazis?

[silverscreenx]

As far as I know, Trump didn't call on people to storm the Capitol with weapons. In fact, I believe he called for them to STOP and GO AWAY as soon as he found out about the potential violence.

[nopowerhere]

So he didn’t tell them to fight as hard as they could and not to lie down and take it and to take their nation back from an election he touted as illegitimate with no evidence?

[silverscreenx]

That still doesn't translare to "storm the capitol with bombs and weapons and cause bodily harm".

[nopowerhere]

So that’s not what “fight back” “don’t roll over” and “go take your country back” means??

And again! He’d already seen the effects of his incitement, had already been warned about it.

I get it, you guys hate Dems and their weird unnatural hatred for Trump, but it’s blinding you to the fact trump is ALSO a piece of shit and using that hate to manipulate y’all.

But do y’all

[nopowerhere]

[dashaibo]

This is why we need to bring back the gold standard

MFers think money grows on trees and printing cash won't result in a hyperinflation

[nopowerhere]

Nobody said print cash. Learn to read. Thanks.

[dashaibo]

Where do you think all this money is going to come from

[nopowerhere]

Did you see the part about the tax cuts? Did you know you can do that to other parts of the budget too?

You gonna have to learn to read and basic math if you wanna argue with people

[dashaibo]

That is not going to be nearly enough money, your country is already in ridiculous debt, corporations will just move their HWs elsewhere, you're going to live through another Weimar catastrophe.

[nopowerhere]

Lol k

Maybe if a certain trillion dollar tax cut was undone and maybe hiked up even further in addition to lowering congress and the senates pay to the median American income for the duration of the pandemic AND taking 10% of the defense budget would make a good start.

[hominish0stilis]

This will literally send inflation through the roof, just by doubling the min. wage.

>lowering congress and the senate’s pay

That’s a good idea, just not for the reason you think. That ought to be done regardless.

“Hike taxes” will again, just result in businesses moving their shit elsewhere. Your $15 min wage will already tank most of the small businesses that are left, now you want to make sure nobody has a job too?

Motherfuckers talking about “basic math” while shilling for policies that will absolutely trash everybody who’s not already rich and have little to no real consequences for everyone who is, because they’re stupid and don’t get how basic economics works.

[dainslefsblog]

Does that guy honestly think congress will vote to cut their own pay?  Holy shit.

[hominish0stilis]

The fact that they can vote on that at all is kind of a joke, and part of why they make stupid amounts of money with half the year as vacation time.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

The entire defense budget is less than the US spends on benefits and such already, IIRC. 10% of that isn't very much, actually.

It's only, what, 70 billion as of FY2019? And that's rounding up. Comes to $200 per person for the 2019 population.

NoPowerhere, as usual, just repeats NPC lines without thought.

[ngsb3]

Any time someone brings up the US cutting their defense budget, ask them which European country they're going to be telling to supply their own military from now on.

[theodoretheninja]

All of them. We should not be paying a cent for other countries' shit at all. My god, we could fix half our problems in under a decade of we weren't funding the rest of the planet. If we opened a portal to another dimension, the us government would sure as shit send a pallet of cash through first.

[nopowerhere]

Yes, literally make the world defend itself and use the money for our people. What the fuck is up with all this goddamn straw

[nopowerhere]

[dashaibo]

This is why we need to bring back the gold standard

MFers think money grows on trees and printing cash won't result in a hyperinflation

[nopowerhere]

Nobody said print cash. Learn to read. Thanks.

[dashaibo]

Where do you think all this money is going to come from

[nopowerhere]

Did you see the part about the tax cuts? Did you know you can do that to other parts of the budget too?

You gonna have to learn to read and basic math if you wanna argue with people

[dashaibo]

That is not going to be nearly enough money, your country is already in ridiculous debt, corporations will just move their HWs elsewhere, you're going to live through another Weimar catastrophe.

[nopowerhere]

Lol k

Maybe if a certain trillion dollar tax cut was undone and maybe hiked up even further in addition to lowering congress and the senates pay to the median American income for the duration of the pandemic AND taking 10% of the defense budget would make a good start.

[hominish0stilis]

This will literally send inflation through the roof, just by doubling the min. wage.

>lowering congress and the senate’s pay

That’s a good idea, just not for the reason you think. That ought to be done regardless.

“Hike taxes” will again, just result in businesses moving their shit elsewhere. Your $15 min wage will already tank most of the small businesses that are left, now you want to make sure nobody has a job too?

Motherfuckers talking about “basic math” while shilling for policies that will absolutely trash everybody who’s not already rich and have little to no real consequences for everyone who is, because they’re stupid and don’t get how basic economics works.

[dainslefsblog]

Does that guy honestly think congress will vote to cut their own pay?  Holy shit.

[hominish0stilis]

The fact that they can vote on that at all is kind of a joke, and part of why they make stupid amounts of money with half the year as vacation time.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

The entire defense budget is less than the US spends on benefits and such already, IIRC. 10% of that isn't very much, actually.

It's only, what, 70 billion as of FY2019? And that's rounding up. Comes to $200 per person for the 2019 population.

NoPowerhere, as usual, just repeats NPC lines without thought.

[nopowerhere]

Just keep circle jerking instead of actually addressing me, Jesus fuck.

Show me where I said “use 10% of the defense budget and no money from anywhere else, like cutting foreign aid or raising taxes on the 1%, we can never do those.”

Because I totally didn’t mention any of that right?

People who hate the working class learn to read 2k21

[nopowerhere]

[dashaibo]

This is why we need to bring back the gold standard

MFers think money grows on trees and printing cash won't result in a hyperinflation

[doom-ocean]

What's funny is they believe that money both grows on trees and is in infinite amounts, but it's also finite in amount and rich people are hoarding it. It truly is a mental illness.

[nopowerhere]

Oh y’all don’t know what shifting money means huh?

You see, you defund one thing, to fund something else, OR you can increase taxes to bring in more money for use. Specifically maybe on those making 500,000 or more a year.

[whitepeopletwitter]

[nopowerhere]

[noblepeasant]

If we’re going to hold people responsible for what other people do in response to their rhetoric, then I hope to God y’all will support having AOC held responsible for the Tacoma attack.

[nopowerhere]

If there’s proof her words created a frenzy twice before and yet she incited a third time to over throw a fair election with false information and violence lemme know. Oh! And that the protesters started it and not other instigators.

If ya get all that wrapped up in a pretty package like they got on trump then absolutely.

So y’all gonna hold him accountable or whine and fingerpoint? Because “but theeeeey did it!” didn’t work in first grade either

[noblepeasant]

Her comparison of an ICE detention facility to a concentration camp inspired someone to try and blow one up. Does that count?

Either they both did something wrong, or neither of them did. I don’t care which one you pick, so long as you treat them both the same.

[nopowerhere]

Did she tell them to fight? Did she tell them that things not occuring were occuring? Did she tell them to “take (the facility) back” and “don’t roll over”?

I disagree.

Now Hilary and trump, THEY both did something wrong and they should both be treated the same.

Don’t be disingenuous just because AOC is in the democratic limelight atm. Don’t punch down for symbolism

[noblepeasant]

I’m not “punching down”, whatever that’s supposed to mean. I’m saying that the two have done similar things. One said that the election was stolen, the other said that the ICE facility was a concentration camp. As a result, someone tried to bomb the capitol building, and someone else tried to blow up the ICE facility. That seems like two very similar things to me.

[nopowerhere]

Slapping at the person it’s popular to slap at instead of actual problems. The difference is one person claimed falsely and ADVOCATED “FIGHTING” AND NOT “ROLLING OVER” TO DESTROY A FAIR ELECTION

And the other one called the ICE facilities inhumane, akin to concentration camps. Because they’re in inhumane conditions and people are dying. Other countries have also AGREED they’re akin to camps. America has had camps before, it’s not that crazy. Just because it isn’t operating a gas chamber doesn’t make it not one.

One didn’t win and get his way

The other people are actively starving and dying

They’re really just not terribly similar to me

[noblepeasant]

No, she just compared them to concentration camps and said “never again”, making a direct comparison to the Holocaust. How do you think people are gonna react when they hear “oh, by the way, there’s an Auschwitz in our borders and our government is fascist”? They ain’t gonna make daisy chains and sing Kumbaya!

We weren’t talking about the merits or the validty of the statements, we were talking about if Trump and AOC should be held responsible for what their supporters did. Your mask has slipped.

[nopowerhere]

Well it is true we said no to concentration camps ever again, that includes both the nazi type and any other kind.

Would you rather she downplay the disease and neglect? It’s not fun but it’s kinda important to know about and stop. It’s a real issue.

Validity and merits are part of inciting. My mask never slips nigga, got this shit on lock, no rona in my household. Swish.

[noblepeasant]

You’re clearly giving AOC the benefit because you think what she’s said is justified, and presumably the response is justified as well. That’s how your mask slipped. You ain’t looking at these two as “this person said X, and as a result, their supporter went out and did Y”, you’re looking at it as “person I like and support vs person I hate and oppose”.

I’m not trying to talk about validity or justification, I’m talking about responsibility. That can be a good thing or a bad thing. Is AOC responsible for inciting that attack, knowing that the language she used was inflammatory, using comparisons to the Nazis and explicitly calling the government fascist during a time when one of the slogans of supporters was a call to violence against Nazis?

[nopowerhere]

No, they didn’t catch her on tape telling them not to lie down or to hit people because she would pay the legal bill. It’s not person I like vs person I don’t because, newsflash, I don’t support a goodly amount of her policy! What a shock! She just wasn’t explicit like trump! That’s it!

Where was her language inflammatory in a violent way? Where did she say to fight, to stand by, to not let them steal the country. Did she tell them to “show great strength” against the “bad people” at the capitol? “We will never give up we will never concede”? “We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell we won’t have a country anymore.”

That’s not a lot more than being upset? Over concentration camp conditions?

Like unless there’s a tweet of her encouraging people to go there and fuck stuff up I didn’t see or hear about. If I got missing info, by the gods above and below show it.

I don’t want to be a hypocrite. But I honestly see a stark difference. And no not in political context.

[nopowerhere]

[noblepeasant]

If we’re going to hold people responsible for what other people do in response to their rhetoric, then I hope to God y’all will support having AOC held responsible for the Tacoma attack.

[nopowerhere]

If there’s proof her words created a frenzy twice before and yet she incited a third time to over throw a fair election with false information and violence lemme know. Oh! And that the protesters started it and not other instigators.

If ya get all that wrapped up in a pretty package like they got on trump then absolutely.

So y’all gonna hold him accountable or whine and fingerpoint? Because “but theeeeey did it!” didn’t work in first grade either

[noblepeasant]

Her comparison of an ICE detention facility to a concentration camp inspired someone to try and blow one up. Does that count?

Either they both did something wrong, or neither of them did. I don’t care which one you pick, so long as you treat them both the same.

[nopowerhere]

Did she tell them to fight? Did she tell them that things not occuring were occuring? Did she tell them to “take (the facility) back” and “don’t roll over”?

I disagree.

Now Hilary and trump, THEY both did something wrong and they should both be treated the same.

Don’t be disingenuous just because AOC is in the democratic limelight atm. Don’t punch down for symbolism

[noblepeasant]

I’m not “punching down”, whatever that’s supposed to mean. I’m saying that the two have done similar things. One said that the election was stolen, the other said that the ICE facility was a concentration camp. As a result, someone tried to bomb the capitol building, and someone else tried to blow up the ICE facility. That seems like two very similar things to me.

[nopowerhere]

Slapping at the person it’s popular to slap at instead of actual problems. The difference is one person claimed falsely and ADVOCATED “FIGHTING” AND NOT “ROLLING OVER” TO DESTROY A FAIR ELECTION

And the other one called the ICE facilities inhumane, akin to concentration camps. Because they’re in inhumane conditions and people are dying. Other countries have also AGREED they’re akin to camps. America has had camps before, it’s not that crazy. Just because it isn’t operating a gas chamber doesn’t make it not one.

One didn’t win and get his way

The other people are actively starving and dying

They’re really just not terribly similar to me

[noblepeasant]

No, she just compared them to concentration camps and said “never again”, making a direct comparison to the Holocaust. How do you think people are gonna react when they hear “oh, by the way, there’s an Auschwitz in our borders and our government is fascist”? They ain’t gonna make daisy chains and sing Kumbaya!

We weren’t talking about the merits or the validty of the statements, we were talking about if Trump and AOC should be held responsible for what their supporters did. Your mask has slipped.

[nopowerhere]

Well it is true we said no to concentration camps ever again, that includes both the nazi type and any other kind.

Would you rather she downplay the disease and neglect? It’s not fun but it’s kinda important to know about and stop. It’s a real issue.

Validity and merits are part of inciting. My mask never slips nigga, got this shit on lock, no rona in my household. Swish.

[noblepeasant]

You’re clearly giving AOC the benefit because you think what she’s said is justified, and presumably the response is justified as well. That’s how your mask slipped. You ain’t looking at these two as “this person said X, and as a result, their supporter went out and did Y”, you’re looking at it as “person I like and support vs person I hate and oppose”.

I’m not trying to talk about validity or justification, I’m talking about responsibility. That can be a good thing or a bad thing. Is AOC responsible for inciting that attack, knowing that the language she used was inflammatory, using comparisons to the Nazis and explicitly calling the government fascist during a time when one of the slogans of supporters was a call to violence against Nazis?

[nopowerhere]

No, they didn’t catch her on tape telling them not to lie down or to hit people because she would pay the legal bill. It’s not person I like vs person I don’t because, newsflash, I don’t support a goodly amount of her policy! What a shock! She just wasn’t explicit like trump! That’s it!

Where was her language inflammatory in a violent way? Where did she say to fight, to stand by, to not let them steal the country. Did she tell them to “show great strength” against the “bad people” at the capitol? “We will never give up we will never concede”? “We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell we won’t have a country anymore.”

That’s not a lot more than being upset? Over concentration camp conditions?

Like unless there’s a tweet of her encouraging people to go there and fuck stuff up I didn’t see or hear about. If I got missing info, by the gods above and below show it.

I don’t want to be a hypocrite. But I honestly see a stark difference. And no not in political context.

[nopowerhere]

[noblepeasant]

If we’re going to hold people responsible for what other people do in response to their rhetoric, then I hope to God y’all will support having AOC held responsible for the Tacoma attack.

[nopowerhere]

If there’s proof her words created a frenzy twice before and yet she incited a third time to over throw a fair election with false information and violence lemme know. Oh! And that the protesters started it and not other instigators.

If ya get all that wrapped up in a pretty package like they got on trump then absolutely.

So y’all gonna hold him accountable or whine and fingerpoint? Because “but theeeeey did it!” didn’t work in first grade either

[noblepeasant]

Her comparison of an ICE detention facility to a concentration camp inspired someone to try and blow one up. Does that count?

Either they both did something wrong, or neither of them did. I don’t care which one you pick, so long as you treat them both the same.

[nopowerhere]

Did she tell them to fight? Did she tell them that things not occuring were occuring? Did she tell them to “take (the facility) back” and “don’t roll over”?

I disagree.

Now Hilary and trump, THEY both did something wrong and they should both be treated the same.

Don’t be disingenuous just because AOC is in the democratic limelight atm. Don’t punch down for symbolism

[noblepeasant]

I’m not “punching down”, whatever that’s supposed to mean. I’m saying that the two have done similar things. One said that the election was stolen, the other said that the ICE facility was a concentration camp. As a result, someone tried to bomb the capitol building, and someone else tried to blow up the ICE facility. That seems like two very similar things to me.

[nopowerhere]

Slapping at the person it’s popular to slap at instead of actual problems. The difference is one person claimed falsely and ADVOCATED “FIGHTING” AND NOT “ROLLING OVER” TO DESTROY A FAIR ELECTION

And the other one called the ICE facilities inhumane, akin to concentration camps. Because they’re in inhumane conditions and people are dying. Other countries have also AGREED they’re akin to camps. America has had camps before, it’s not that crazy. Just because it isn’t operating a gas chamber doesn’t make it not one.

One didn’t win and get his way

The other people are actively starving and dying

They’re really just not terribly similar to me

[noblepeasant]

No, she just compared them to concentration camps and said “never again”, making a direct comparison to the Holocaust. How do you think people are gonna react when they hear “oh, by the way, there’s an Auschwitz in our borders and our government is fascist”? They ain’t gonna make daisy chains and sing Kumbaya!

We weren’t talking about the merits or the validty of the statements, we were talking about if Trump and AOC should be held responsible for what their supporters did. Your mask has slipped.

[nopowerhere]

Well it is true we said no to concentration camps ever again, that includes both the nazi type and any other kind.

Would you rather she downplay the disease and neglect? It’s not fun but it’s kinda important to know about and stop. It’s a real issue.

Validity and merits are part of inciting. My mask never slips nigga, got this shit on lock, no rona in my household. Swish.

[noblepeasant]

You’re clearly giving AOC the benefit because you think what she’s said is justified, and presumably the response is justified as well. That’s how your mask slipped. You ain’t looking at these two as “this person said X, and as a result, their supporter went out and did Y”, you’re looking at it as “person I like and support vs person I hate and oppose”.

I’m not trying to talk about validity or justification, I’m talking about responsibility. That can be a good thing or a bad thing. Is AOC responsible for inciting that attack, knowing that the language she used was inflammatory, using comparisons to the Nazis and explicitly calling the government fascist during a time when one of the slogans of supporters was a call to violence against Nazis?

[nopowerhere]

No, they didn’t catch her on tape telling them not to lie down or to hit people because she would pay the legal bill. It’s not person I like vs person I don’t because, newsflash, I don’t support a goodly amount of her policy! What a shock! She just wasn’t explicit like trump! That’s it!

Where was her language inflammatory in a violent way? Where did she say to fight, to stand by, to not let them steal the country. Did she tell them to “show great strength” against the “bad people” at the capitol? “We will never give up we will never concede”? “We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell we won’t have a country anymore.”

That’s not a lot more than being upset? Over concentration camp conditions?

Like unless there’s a tweet of her encouraging people to go there and fuck stuff up I didn’t see or hear about. If I got missing info, by the gods above and below show it.

I don’t want to be a hypocrite. But I honestly see a stark difference. And no not in political context.

[nopowerhere]

[noblepeasant]

If we’re going to hold people responsible for what other people do in response to their rhetoric, then I hope to God y’all will support having AOC held responsible for the Tacoma attack.

[nopowerhere]

If there’s proof her words created a frenzy twice before and yet she incited a third time to over throw a fair election with false information and violence lemme know. Oh! And that the protesters started it and not other instigators.

If ya get all that wrapped up in a pretty package like they got on trump then absolutely.

So y’all gonna hold him accountable or whine and fingerpoint? Because “but theeeeey did it!” didn’t work in first grade either

[noblepeasant]

Her comparison of an ICE detention facility to a concentration camp inspired someone to try and blow one up. Does that count?

Either they both did something wrong, or neither of them did. I don’t care which one you pick, so long as you treat them both the same.

[nopowerhere]

Did she tell them to fight? Did she tell them that things not occuring were occuring? Did she tell them to “take (the facility) back” and “don’t roll over”?

I disagree.

Now Hilary and trump, THEY both did something wrong and they should both be treated the same.

Don’t be disingenuous just because AOC is in the democratic limelight atm. Don’t punch down for symbolism

[noblepeasant]

I’m not “punching down”, whatever that’s supposed to mean. I’m saying that the two have done similar things. One said that the election was stolen, the other said that the ICE facility was a concentration camp. As a result, someone tried to bomb the capitol building, and someone else tried to blow up the ICE facility. That seems like two very similar things to me.

[nopowerhere]

Slapping at the person it’s popular to slap at instead of actual problems. The difference is one person claimed falsely and ADVOCATED “FIGHTING” AND NOT “ROLLING OVER” TO DESTROY A FAIR ELECTION

And the other one called the ICE facilities inhumane, akin to concentration camps. Because they’re in inhumane conditions and people are dying. Other countries have also AGREED they’re akin to camps. America has had camps before, it’s not that crazy. Just because it isn’t operating a gas chamber doesn’t make it not one.

One didn’t win and get his way

The other people are actively starving and dying

They’re really just not terribly similar to me

[noblepeasant]

No, she just compared them to concentration camps and said “never again”, making a direct comparison to the Holocaust. How do you think people are gonna react when they hear “oh, by the way, there’s an Auschwitz in our borders and our government is fascist”? They ain’t gonna make daisy chains and sing Kumbaya!

We weren’t talking about the merits or the validty of the statements, we were talking about if Trump and AOC should be held responsible for what their supporters did. Your mask has slipped.

[nopowerhere]

Well it is true we said no to concentration camps ever again, that includes both the nazi type and any other kind.

Would you rather she downplay the disease and neglect? It’s not fun but it’s kinda important to know about and stop. It’s a real issue.

Validity and merits are part of inciting. My mask never slips nigga, got this shit on lock, no rona in my household. Swish.

[noblepeasant]

You’re clearly giving AOC the benefit because you think what she’s said is justified, and presumably the response is justified as well. That’s how your mask slipped. You ain’t looking at these two as “this person said X, and as a result, their supporter went out and did Y”, you’re looking at it as “person I like and support vs person I hate and oppose”.

I’m not trying to talk about validity or justification, I’m talking about responsibility. That can be a good thing or a bad thing. Is AOC responsible for inciting that attack, knowing that the language she used was inflammatory, using comparisons to the Nazis and explicitly calling the government fascist during a time when one of the slogans of supporters was a call to violence against Nazis?

[nopowerhere]

No, they didn’t catch her on tape telling them not to lie down or to hit people because she would pay the legal bill. It’s not person I like vs person I don’t because, newsflash, I don’t support a goodly amount of her policy! What a shock! She just wasn’t explicit like trump! That’s it!

Where was her language inflammatory in a violent way? Where did she say to fight, to stand by, to not let them steal the country. Did she tell them to “show great strength” against the “bad people” at the capitol? “We will never give up we will never concede”? “We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell we won’t have a country anymore.”

That’s not a lot more than being upset? Over concentration camp conditions?

Like unless there’s a tweet of her encouraging people to go there and fuck stuff up I didn’t see or hear about. If I got missing info, by the gods above and below show it.

I don’t want to be a hypocrite. But I honestly see a stark difference. And no not in political context.

[nopowerhere]

[noblepeasant]

If we’re going to hold people responsible for what other people do in response to their rhetoric, then I hope to God y’all will support having AOC held responsible for the Tacoma attack.

[nopowerhere]

If there’s proof her words created a frenzy twice before and yet she incited a third time to over throw a fair election with false information and violence lemme know. Oh! And that the protesters started it and not other instigators.

If ya get all that wrapped up in a pretty package like they got on trump then absolutely.

So y’all gonna hold him accountable or whine and fingerpoint? Because “but theeeeey did it!” didn’t work in first grade either

[noblepeasant]

Her comparison of an ICE detention facility to a concentration camp inspired someone to try and blow one up. Does that count?

Either they both did something wrong, or neither of them did. I don’t care which one you pick, so long as you treat them both the same.

[nopowerhere]

Did she tell them to fight? Did she tell them that things not occuring were occuring? Did she tell them to “take (the facility) back” and “don’t roll over”?

I disagree.

Now Hilary and trump, THEY both did something wrong and they should both be treated the same.

Don’t be disingenuous just because AOC is in the democratic limelight atm. Don’t punch down for symbolism

[noblepeasant]

I’m not “punching down”, whatever that’s supposed to mean. I’m saying that the two have done similar things. One said that the election was stolen, the other said that the ICE facility was a concentration camp. As a result, someone tried to bomb the capitol building, and someone else tried to blow up the ICE facility. That seems like two very similar things to me.

[nopowerhere]

Slapping at the person it’s popular to slap at instead of actual problems. The difference is one person claimed falsely and ADVOCATED “FIGHTING” AND NOT “ROLLING OVER” TO DESTROY A FAIR ELECTION

And the other one called the ICE facilities inhumane, akin to concentration camps. Because they’re in inhumane conditions and people are dying. Other countries have also AGREED they’re akin to camps. America has had camps before, it’s not that crazy. Just because it isn’t operating a gas chamber doesn’t make it not one.

One didn’t win and get his way

The other people are actively starving and dying

They’re really just not terribly similar to me

[noblepeasant]

No, she just compared them to concentration camps and said “never again”, making a direct comparison to the Holocaust. How do you think people are gonna react when they hear “oh, by the way, there’s an Auschwitz in our borders and our government is fascist”? They ain’t gonna make daisy chains and sing Kumbaya!

We weren’t talking about the merits or the validty of the statements, we were talking about if Trump and AOC should be held responsible for what their supporters did. Your mask has slipped.

[nopowerhere]

Well it is true we said no to concentration camps ever again, that includes both the nazi type and any other kind.

Would you rather she downplay the disease and neglect? It’s not fun but it’s kinda important to know about and stop. It’s a real issue.

Validity and merits are part of inciting. My mask never slips nigga, got this shit on lock, no rona in my household. Swish.

[noblepeasant]

You’re clearly giving AOC the benefit because you think what she’s said is justified, and presumably the response is justified as well. That’s how your mask slipped. You ain’t looking at these two as “this person said X, and as a result, their supporter went out and did Y”, you’re looking at it as “person I like and support vs person I hate and oppose”.

I’m not trying to talk about validity or justification, I’m talking about responsibility. That can be a good thing or a bad thing. Is AOC responsible for inciting that attack, knowing that the language she used was inflammatory, using comparisons to the Nazis and explicitly calling the government fascist during a time when one of the slogans of supporters was a call to violence against Nazis?

[nopowerhere]

No, they didn’t catch her on tape telling them not to lie down or to hit people because she would pay the legal bill. It’s not person I like vs person I don’t because, newsflash, I don’t support a goodly amount of her policy! What a shock! She just wasn’t explicit like trump! That’s it!

Where was her language inflammatory in a violent way? Where did she say to fight, to stand by, to not let them steal the country. Did she tell them to “show great strength” against the “bad people” at the capitol? “We will never give up we will never concede”? “We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell we won’t have a country anymore.”

That’s not a lot more than being upset? Over concentration camp conditions?

Like unless there’s a tweet of her encouraging people to go there and fuck stuff up I didn’t see or hear about. If I got missing info, by the gods above and below show it.

I don’t want to be a hypocrite. But I honestly see a stark difference. And no not in political context.

[nopowerhere]

[noblepeasant]

If we’re going to hold people responsible for what other people do in response to their rhetoric, then I hope to God y’all will support having AOC held responsible for the Tacoma attack.

[nopowerhere]

If there’s proof her words created a frenzy twice before and yet she incited a third time to over throw a fair election with false information and violence lemme know. Oh! And that the protesters started it and not other instigators.

If ya get all that wrapped up in a pretty package like they got on trump then absolutely.

So y’all gonna hold him accountable or whine and fingerpoint? Because “but theeeeey did it!” didn’t work in first grade either

[noblepeasant]

Her comparison of an ICE detention facility to a concentration camp inspired someone to try and blow one up. Does that count?

Either they both did something wrong, or neither of them did. I don’t care which one you pick, so long as you treat them both the same.

[nopowerhere]

Did she tell them to fight? Did she tell them that things not occuring were occuring? Did she tell them to “take (the facility) back” and “don’t roll over”?

I disagree.

Now Hilary and trump, THEY both did something wrong and they should both be treated the same.

Don’t be disingenuous just because AOC is in the democratic limelight atm. Don’t punch down for symbolism

[noblepeasant]

I’m not “punching down”, whatever that’s supposed to mean. I’m saying that the two have done similar things. One said that the election was stolen, the other said that the ICE facility was a concentration camp. As a result, someone tried to bomb the capitol building, and someone else tried to blow up the ICE facility. That seems like two very similar things to me.

[nopowerhere]

Slapping at the person it’s popular to slap at instead of actual problems. The difference is one person claimed falsely and ADVOCATED “FIGHTING” AND NOT “ROLLING OVER” TO DESTROY A FAIR ELECTION

And the other one called the ICE facilities inhumane, akin to concentration camps. Because they’re in inhumane conditions and people are dying. Other countries have also AGREED they’re akin to camps. America has had camps before, it’s not that crazy. Just because it isn’t operating a gas chamber doesn’t make it not one.

One didn’t win and get his way

The other people are actively starving and dying

They’re really just not terribly similar to me

[noblepeasant]

No, she just compared them to concentration camps and said “never again”, making a direct comparison to the Holocaust. How do you think people are gonna react when they hear “oh, by the way, there’s an Auschwitz in our borders and our government is fascist”? They ain’t gonna make daisy chains and sing Kumbaya!

We weren’t talking about the merits or the validty of the statements, we were talking about if Trump and AOC should be held responsible for what their supporters did. Your mask has slipped.

[nopowerhere]

Well it is true we said no to concentration camps ever again, that includes both the nazi type and any other kind.

Would you rather she downplay the disease and neglect? It’s not fun but it’s kinda important to know about and stop. It’s a real issue.

Validity and merits are part of inciting. My mask never slips nigga, got this shit on lock, no rona in my household. Swish.

[noblepeasant]

You’re clearly giving AOC the benefit because you think what she’s said is justified, and presumably the response is justified as well. That’s how your mask slipped. You ain’t looking at these two as “this person said X, and as a result, their supporter went out and did Y”, you’re looking at it as “person I like and support vs person I hate and oppose”.

I’m not trying to talk about validity or justification, I’m talking about responsibility. That can be a good thing or a bad thing. Is AOC responsible for inciting that attack, knowing that the language she used was inflammatory, using comparisons to the Nazis and explicitly calling the government fascist during a time when one of the slogans of supporters was a call to violence against Nazis?

[nopowerhere]

No, they didn’t catch her on tape telling them not to lie down or to hit people because she would pay the legal bill. It’s not person I like vs person I don’t because, newsflash, I don’t support a goodly amount of her policy! What a shock! She just wasn’t explicit like trump! That’s it!

Where was her language inflammatory in a violent way? Where did she say to fight, to stand by, to not let them steal the country. Did she tell them to “show great strength” against the “bad people” at the capitol? “We will never give up we will never concede”? “We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell we won’t have a country anymore.”

That’s not a lot more than being upset? Over concentration camp conditions?

Like unless there’s a tweet of her encouraging people to go there and fuck stuff up I didn’t see or hear about. If I got missing info, by the gods above and below show it.

I don’t want to be a hypocrite. But I honestly see a stark difference. And no not in political context.

[nopowerhere]

[noblepeasant]

If we’re going to hold people responsible for what other people do in response to their rhetoric, then I hope to God y’all will support having AOC held responsible for the Tacoma attack.

[nopowerhere]

If there’s proof her words created a frenzy twice before and yet she incited a third time to over throw a fair election with false information and violence lemme know. Oh! And that the protesters started it and not other instigators.

If ya get all that wrapped up in a pretty package like they got on trump then absolutely.

So y’all gonna hold him accountable or whine and fingerpoint? Because “but theeeeey did it!” didn’t work in first grade either

[noblepeasant]

Her comparison of an ICE detention facility to a concentration camp inspired someone to try and blow one up. Does that count?

Either they both did something wrong, or neither of them did. I don’t care which one you pick, so long as you treat them both the same.

[nopowerhere]

Did she tell them to fight? Did she tell them that things not occuring were occuring? Did she tell them to “take (the facility) back” and “don’t roll over”?

I disagree.

Now Hilary and trump, THEY both did something wrong and they should both be treated the same.

Don’t be disingenuous just because AOC is in the democratic limelight atm. Don’t punch down for symbolism

[noblepeasant]

I’m not “punching down”, whatever that’s supposed to mean. I’m saying that the two have done similar things. One said that the election was stolen, the other said that the ICE facility was a concentration camp. As a result, someone tried to bomb the capitol building, and someone else tried to blow up the ICE facility. That seems like two very similar things to me.

[nopowerhere]

Slapping at the person it’s popular to slap at instead of actual problems. The difference is one person claimed falsely and ADVOCATED “FIGHTING” AND NOT “ROLLING OVER” TO DESTROY A FAIR ELECTION

And the other one called the ICE facilities inhumane, akin to concentration camps. Because they’re in inhumane conditions and people are dying. Other countries have also AGREED they’re akin to camps. America has had camps before, it’s not that crazy. Just because it isn’t operating a gas chamber doesn’t make it not one.

One didn’t win and get his way

The other people are actively starving and dying

They’re really just not terribly similar to me

[noblepeasant]

No, she just compared them to concentration camps and said “never again”, making a direct comparison to the Holocaust. How do you think people are gonna react when they hear “oh, by the way, there’s an Auschwitz in our borders and our government is fascist”? They ain’t gonna make daisy chains and sing Kumbaya!

We weren’t talking about the merits or the validty of the statements, we were talking about if Trump and AOC should be held responsible for what their supporters did. Your mask has slipped.

[nopowerhere]

Well it is true we said no to concentration camps ever again, that includes both the nazi type and any other kind.

Would you rather she downplay the disease and neglect? It’s not fun but it’s kinda important to know about and stop. It’s a real issue.

Validity and merits are part of inciting. My mask never slips nigga, got this shit on lock, no rona in my household. Swish.

[noblepeasant]

You’re clearly giving AOC the benefit because you think what she’s said is justified, and presumably the response is justified as well. That’s how your mask slipped. You ain’t looking at these two as “this person said X, and as a result, their supporter went out and did Y”, you’re looking at it as “person I like and support vs person I hate and oppose”.

I’m not trying to talk about validity or justification, I’m talking about responsibility. That can be a good thing or a bad thing. Is AOC responsible for inciting that attack, knowing that the language she used was inflammatory, using comparisons to the Nazis and explicitly calling the government fascist during a time when one of the slogans of supporters was a call to violence against Nazis?

[nopowerhere]

No, they didn’t catch her on tape telling them not to lie down or to hit people because she would pay the legal bill. It’s not person I like vs person I don’t because, newsflash, I don’t support a goodly amount of her policy! What a shock! She just wasn’t explicit like trump! That’s it!

Where was her language inflammatory in a violent way? Where did she say to fight, to stand by, to not let them steal the country. Did she tell them to “show great strength” against the “bad people” at the capitol? “We will never give up we will never concede”? “We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell we won’t have a country anymore.”

That’s not a lot more than being upset? Over concentration camp conditions?

Like unless there’s a tweet of her encouraging people to go there and fuck stuff up I didn’t see or hear about. If I got missing info, by the gods above and below show it.

I don’t want to be a hypocrite. But I honestly see a stark difference. And no not in political context.

[nopowerhere]

[noblepeasant]

If we’re going to hold people responsible for what other people do in response to their rhetoric, then I hope to God y’all will support having AOC held responsible for the Tacoma attack.

[nopowerhere]

If there’s proof her words created a frenzy twice before and yet she incited a third time to over throw a fair election with false information and violence lemme know. Oh! And that the protesters started it and not other instigators.

If ya get all that wrapped up in a pretty package like they got on trump then absolutely.

So y’all gonna hold him accountable or whine and fingerpoint? Because “but theeeeey did it!” didn’t work in first grade either

[noblepeasant]

Her comparison of an ICE detention facility to a concentration camp inspired someone to try and blow one up. Does that count?

Either they both did something wrong, or neither of them did. I don’t care which one you pick, so long as you treat them both the same.

[nopowerhere]

Did she tell them to fight? Did she tell them that things not occuring were occuring? Did she tell them to “take (the facility) back” and “don’t roll over”?

I disagree.

Now Hilary and trump, THEY both did something wrong and they should both be treated the same.

Don’t be disingenuous just because AOC is in the democratic limelight atm. Don’t punch down for symbolism

[noblepeasant]

I’m not “punching down”, whatever that’s supposed to mean. I’m saying that the two have done similar things. One said that the election was stolen, the other said that the ICE facility was a concentration camp. As a result, someone tried to bomb the capitol building, and someone else tried to blow up the ICE facility. That seems like two very similar things to me.

[nopowerhere]

Slapping at the person it’s popular to slap at instead of actual problems. The difference is one person claimed falsely and ADVOCATED “FIGHTING” AND NOT “ROLLING OVER” TO DESTROY A FAIR ELECTION

And the other one called the ICE facilities inhumane, akin to concentration camps. Because they’re in inhumane conditions and people are dying. Other countries have also AGREED they’re akin to camps. America has had camps before, it’s not that crazy. Just because it isn’t operating a gas chamber doesn’t make it not one.

One didn’t win and get his way

The other people are actively starving and dying

They’re really just not terribly similar to me

[noblepeasant]

No, she just compared them to concentration camps and said “never again”, making a direct comparison to the Holocaust. How do you think people are gonna react when they hear “oh, by the way, there’s an Auschwitz in our borders and our government is fascist”? They ain’t gonna make daisy chains and sing Kumbaya!

We weren’t talking about the merits or the validty of the statements, we were talking about if Trump and AOC should be held responsible for what their supporters did. Your mask has slipped.

[nopowerhere]

Well it is true we said no to concentration camps ever again, that includes both the nazi type and any other kind.

Would you rather she downplay the disease and neglect? It’s not fun but it’s kinda important to know about and stop. It’s a real issue.

Validity and merits are part of inciting. My mask never slips nigga, got this shit on lock, no rona in my household. Swish.

[noblepeasant]

You’re clearly giving AOC the benefit because you think what she’s said is justified, and presumably the response is justified as well. That’s how your mask slipped. You ain’t looking at these two as “this person said X, and as a result, their supporter went out and did Y”, you’re looking at it as “person I like and support vs person I hate and oppose”.

I’m not trying to talk about validity or justification, I’m talking about responsibility. That can be a good thing or a bad thing. Is AOC responsible for inciting that attack, knowing that the language she used was inflammatory, using comparisons to the Nazis and explicitly calling the government fascist during a time when one of the slogans of supporters was a call to violence against Nazis?

[nopowerhere]

No, they didn’t catch her on tape telling them not to lie down or to hit people because she would pay the legal bill. It’s not person I like vs person I don’t because, newsflash, I don’t support a goodly amount of her policy! What a shock! She just wasn’t explicit like trump! That’s it!

Where was her language inflammatory in a violent way? Where did she say to fight, to stand by, to not let them steal the country. Did she tell them to “show great strength” against the “bad people” at the capitol? “We will never give up we will never concede”? “We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell we won’t have a country anymore.”

That’s not a lot more than being upset? Over concentration camp conditions?

Like unless there’s a tweet of her encouraging people to go there and fuck stuff up I didn’t see or hear about. If I got missing info, by the gods above and below show it.

I don’t want to be a hypocrite. But I honestly see a stark difference. And no not in political context.