No one hated trump pre-2012, when he started shit talking about Obama real heavily. He wasn't necessarily beloved, but he wasn't hated until he started talking about Obama.
And let's take a look see oh! That's when he became a Republican (again. I guess he's changed parties a bunch over the years, according to Wikipedia)
Before he ran for President the first time, the most negative thing about him people had to say was that he cheated on his wife or something like that. Sure it's shitty, but not quite as bad as what many other politicians have done.
tbh i don’t think any aesthetic or fandom is inherently leftist. people will say “you can’t be goth/punk/emo/alt/whatever if you’re not a leftist!” and “how do conservative star trek fans exist?” and like. it’s simple. they’re literally just aesthetics and fandoms. there is nothing inherently leftist about dressing a certain way, or listening to certain music, or watching certain tv shows.
i think a lot of people want to believe that performing a certain aesthetic or being in a certain fandom makes you a better leftist, because they’re at least semi-aware that they aren’t doing enough. but instead of going out and trying to improve anything, they just reframe something they’re already doing as radical and leftist.
I agree with this for everything except punk because punk starts in the mind and you truly can't be punk and be conservative. You can be punk and not look punk, but there is no way you can be punk and right wing.
For calibration: are you one of those people who thinks being left only applies to communists and socialists, and the mainstream american left is actually centrist or right-wing?
See the funny thing is, there were interviewers in the '80s and '90s who actually asked questions of people who were traditionally goth and punk, and when they were asked if They were concerned people would know their politics by how they act or dress, they said what do you mean, we don't really talk about our politics We just stand against "the man". And then the guy talking literally admitted to being a Republican and talked about how one of his friends was a Democrat in the same room.
Because Punk for a lot of punks, was very much anti government overreach. Hell Ozzy was a bit Goth himself and he was a Christian. Which you would think isn't possible but that's how it was. Because a lot of those crowds, didn't just view it as an aesthetic. And almost every single one of those crowds was anti-big government. And the most were anti-war. Also what Sir said is true. Leftist bullshit is the barely handing on as the dominate cultural and political system. So yeah no, dead wrong on that *nuh uh" you tried to pull. Because if you were correct, DEI would have never been a thing. Getting fired for, "misgendering" would never have been a thing. The"celebrate pride month or else" would never have been a thing.
CHILDREN as young as four are being referred to gender services clinics. They were among 3,724 kids who had specialist treatment between Ap
By: Thomas Godfrey
Published: Jul 17, 2026
CHILDREN as young as four are being referred to gender services clinics.
They were among 3,724 kids who had specialist treatment between April 2024 and last month.
Twenty-three were aged four to six despite critics saying they are too young to feel transgender.
A further 75 were aged between seven and ten.
Our stats, from a freedom of information request, show those sent to the NHS Gender National Referral Support Service by youth mental health specialists.
GP Dr Renee Hoenderkamp said: “Many will have serious mental conditions, like ADHD, which they should be treated for.
“But the pathway for that is not through a referral to a gender services clinic.
“You have to question who is referring them as well, because I know what conversation I would have with a four-year-old’s parents who want to be a dog or a princess or whatever.
“Parents should be guiding their children back to what they actually are, while still allowing them to explore.”
NHS England’s own review, led by Dr Hilary Cass and published in April 2024, found children who show signs of gender confusion mostly grow out of it before puberty.
Her review led to regional NHS hubs replacing the scandal-hit Tavistock clinic, and ended the routine prescription of puberty blockers to under-18s.
But she said there should still be no minimum age for referrals and an NHS spokesman said: “Dr Cass’s report made clear services should support families as early as possible.”
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In Australia, it's as young as 3.
‘This is about child protection and whether they are receiving the best treatment.’
By: Sowaibah Hanifie and Deanna Williams
Published: Jun 27, 2024
Children as young as three years old are being referred to a gender diversity clinic, prompting a South Australian MP to call for an independent review of gender dysphoria treatment.
The Women’s and Children Hospital reported three children aged between three and five years old were seen by its services between March 2022 and March 2024.
More than 80 children aged between six and 10 years old were seen over the same period.
The clinic was seeing 285 children under the age of 18 since April this year, although some of these referrals were for the same patient.
SA Health Minister Chris Picton recently released the figures to independent MP Frank Pangallo after he asked a question without notice in parliament earlier this year.
The Women’s and Children’s Health Network said none of the children currently being assessed were under the age of six.
The hospital said on its website, children referred to the gender diversity team were given mental health support.
They are referred for further medical treatments, such as puberty suppression and gender-affirming hormones, if necessary.
Legal guardian consent maybe required for patients under the age of 16, the hospital said.
Pangallo questioned whether youth under the age of 18 could make “life-changing decisions” to change their gender.
He’s been calling for a parliamentary inquiry into gender dysphoria, that did not receive the support of Labor or The Greens when it was proposed earlier this year.
Pangallo is concerned that some medical practitioners may be too quick to support gender transitions of young people without investigating whether there are other reasons leading to their gender dysphoria.
“The concerns are whether it’s best practice and whether what’s happening in these gender clinics is in the best interest of young people,” Pangallo said.
“Members of the left of the Labor Party are resisting calls for an independent review into the practices and guidelines of gender clinics in this country and in the state when this is happening worldwide.
“This is about child protection and whether they are receiving the best treatment.”
Hormone therapy for teenagers
The hospital said its “service has not provided gender hormone treatment to anyone under the age of 14 and has not provided puberty blockers to anyone under the age of nine”.
It said it does not offer surgical treatment options.
“All youth undergo initial assessment and care as indicated from the mental health team prior to proceeding for medical assessment or intervention,” a spokesperson said.
“Not all children referred to our service will go on to access medical-based treatment.”
The South Australian Rainbow Advocacy Alliance said Pangallo’s commentary on the subject caused “psychological harm” to the gender diverse community.
It said only about one to 2 per cent of gender diverse people detransitioned, and these people required further support.
“We believe that this support needs to come in the form of research, medical and therapeutic options, not in the removal of autonomy of gender diverse people,” a spokesperson said.
Chloe Cole started hormone treatments at 15, then detransitioned at 17 and is now a prominent advocate against gender treatments for children.
She said she was failed by therapists and doctors who were supportive of her gender-affirming treatments, but unsupportive of her wanting to be a girl again.
“I’ve seen first hand the damage those treatments do to the body, to the development of a child, sexually, psychologically, emotionally,” Cole said.
“No child understands their identity or fully understands their body especially at age 3,4,5.”
Cole is touring Australia with WA woman Courtney Coulson to advocate for a review of gender-affirming care.
Coulson under-went a female to male transition at 22-years-old, then detransitioned at 28.
She said the hormone therapy she was prescribed was fraught with complications.
“When seeking treatment, no doctor took the time to investigate my background, my relationships, my family, my sexuality or mental health issues, nor did they offer me a mental health care plan,” Coulson said.
“Instead, after two appointments with an endocrinologist, I was prescribed testosterone.”
Pangallo said a review of gender-affirming treatment in the United Kingdom led to it adopting a “holistic approach” to care instead of rapidly initiating permanent gender transition pathways.
It also emphasised the need to address the root causes of their distress.
The United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights supported the changes and said researchers who express views of such interventions “are not silenced, threatened or intimidated simply for holding and articulating such views”.
SA Health Minister Chris Picton said South Australia would consider the findings of a review in NSW investigating national and international scientific literature, research and evidence on gender care when it is released.
“The Royal Australasian College of Physicians — the peak professional body for doctors in this area — has previously opposed a parliamentary inquiry in relation to this matter,” he said.
The arrogant thing about PizzaCakes is that she is kinda stupid.
But it's intentional stupidity. It's not that we "Allow Hate Speech". The fact is we don't arrest people for speech alone. (Direct calls to action in certain cases do not qualify) But the reality is that who decides what is hate speech? Explain why it is that Christianity is the only faith in Canada right now in which is considered "hateful" to pray near clinics. Yet Islam and (and to a lesser extent) Judaism, seen untouched. And here's the kicker. If Islam ever takes power in Canada what follows is (under your gate speech laws) any criticism of their faith. And any "modern progressive" views as most Muslims are disgusted by the LGBT.
Hate speech is a stupid term that changes depending on who's in power. And if you DEFINE it to be, "anything that goes against modern Progressivism", your mandating your world view at that point. And it will be used against you eventually using speech manipulation.
pro prison leftists are so funny to me because i'll say something like "perhaps it is inhumane to send people to knife island where they must compete in the knife games" and someone will respond, thinking they've destroyed my argument, "I get not sending drug users to knife island, but are you really proposing we don't send (whispers) ...pedophiles to knife island? what else would you have us do with them?"
Exactly what I want to know. What SHOULD have happened with Epstein? If we shouldnt have sent him anywhere, how should we have made sure he didn’t harm anyone else, given that the previous time he wasn’t sent to knife island he continued abusing girls?
Making fun of me for asking this doesn’t get me any closer to figuring out what your answer is, Demon.
So congrats, @demonofbabylon, you go in my queue as yet another dodge. At this point, I'm starting to think the prison abolitonsits can't answer this because they don't actually know. We all know how prison reform works but we were asking how prison aboliton would work.
The Left™ wants totalitarianism and authoritarianism, but it's totally different because they don't call it that and if you disagree well then you're a racist and it's okay for people to attack you.
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