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We’ve waited a year to reblog this. Happy Bread Anniversary!
Because it’s important to celebrate the little victories in life.
12 days left until the breadiversary, we’d better make sure we have the ingredients on hand!
It’s today!
It’s today!!
Look, I dont know a lot about saints and Catholicism, but I know St. Agatha is always depicted with her breasts on a plate, and that’s sure something
Just a few more. This is a big trend.
Things I learned from the comments
She’s a patron saint of rape and abuse victims
She took a vow a chastity
A low born guy demanded her to be with him and she turned him down
For this she was imprisoned and tortured. This is how she lost her breasts (details not required)
She was repeatedly raped.
The Catholic Church regards her as a virgin for her peity despite the rape. (No matter your views on virginity this is a pretty interesting statement)
She was sentenced to death to burn at the stake but was saved by an earthquake
In her holiday people make titty cupcakes
I didn’t know she existed and now I think she’s a pretty rad woman. I would hesitate calling her a protofeminist as some often do with amazing women in history but she is pretty cool. Also she’s still very relevant today as women are still treated the way she was.
other things i learned: damn historic artists drew a woman with her own tits on a plate with Cleavage and prominent nip nops???
When is titty cupcake day?
Today!
Coming up!
Tomorrow!
bake those titty cupcakes tomorrow!!
Some thoughts on Neil burning Mary's body in the car and then burying her bones
Written by a car geek who knows nothing about California but is a baby pyro so we're gonna deal
Does Neil ever mention the type of car he and Mary had when she died? Considering he doesn't know what Andrew's cars are, I'm gonna guess at that being a resounding no.
Since it would've been around 2004 or 2005 when Mary died (if the series is set around 2006-2007ish), I'm gonna guess they were driving either a '95 Ford Fiesta*, '99 Vauxhal Astra, '96 Nissan Micra*, or a '99 Vaulkswagon polo. Given that Neil mentions peeling her skin and muscle tissue off when he lifts her out, I'm pretty sure it would have been a horrific poly or leather x pvc hybrid material that the seat covers were made of, so that narrows it down to either the Fiesta or the Micra. And since I'm assuming it's more common in America to see a Ford than a Micra, we're gonna assume they were in the '95 Ford Fiesta.
For anyone who doesn't know, it would've looked like this:
Ok so now that we're on the same page about the make, model and size of the car, let's get onto the actual post.
To burn a human body to the bone, and burn off all of the flesh, tissue, muscle, skin, hair and organs, a fire needs to be from 1500°f to 1900°f, and to sit steady at that temperature for roughly two or two and a half hours, depending on the weight of the body and clothes, along with the size of the space they're bring cremated in.
The body is pretty much made up of water, carbon and bone. When placed under extreme heat, the fire does a good job of vaporising the organic matter (organs, tissues, etc), through oxidisation and vaporisation, which also makes the water evaporate. Gases (sulfur and carbon) and water vapor build up, and in a normal furnace (like in a crematorium) these would be released through the exhaust system, and then all that's left is fragments of bone, some in tact and others closer to resembling charcoal. Typically in the west, these would then be ground down into ashes, and given to the relatives after a funeral. It's basically impossible to burn a body to ashes. Bones are made of calcium which is pretty much impossible to destroy - it's actually impressive how much it can withstand.
So how would that all work in a car, with Mary sitting in the front passenger seat, and Neil sitting a little bit away as he watches and waits?
It wouldn't. Because that car would not survive that type of heat for that amount of time, and Neil would have passed out from the fumes long before his mother's body was done burning. Her body would have lasted longer than the car. And by the time her body did burn, if Neil had been close by he would have been dead from the fumes and smoke by that point.
See, cars don't explode like they do in action movies - it's not a case of drop a lighter and you have 5 seconds to run before the entire thing blows up like a bomb in a firey dramatic mess. That doesn't happen.
But what does happen is this-
Gasoline itself isn't actually an explosive chemical - think of arson, if it was explosive then every arson case would resemble a bomb site by the end of it. The type of gasoline used in most cars at that point usually ignites once it hits 475°f to 536°f, and it can burn for a pretty long time but won't really get much hotter or do anything other than that if it's left alone. It takes a lot more work to make it explode like in the movies -
In order for an explosion to happen, the chemical would have to be atomised, mixed with air, compressed, and then ignited. Without those steps first, there won't be an explosion.
Gases could build up in the tank if it was almost empty when the blaze started, but at the most that'd be a "What the fuck was that" type of bang, nothing more. Even then, it probably wouldn't even rupture the fuel tank.
It's more likely that the heat and fire would burn through things made of rubber and plastic fibres, like the fuel hose, creating a leak which then causes the gasoline to leak fuel into the fire and create a larger fire. Still no explosion, though.
So we can be pretty sure that the car wouldn't have exploded or imploded, so Neil would have been safe from getting hit in the head by car parts flying into the air Hollywood Style.
But when we look at what else that car was made of, things get a little more interesting.
So we've covered that Mary's body would have needed to be 1500°f -1900°f for around two and a half hours to burn down to the bone.
Neil would of had to leave the car windows open to make sure the gases released by the burning body didn't build up in the car - not because of an explosion risk, but because those gases would have made the fire weaker if they had been allowed to build up inside the car.
The horrific material of the seats would have been plastic based, and burned at around 170°f to 180°f (fun fact about modern cars and heated seats...?? Anyone??.... OK..another time then..) - while the seats themselves wouldn't have actually physically caught fire, the heat would have burned and melted them.
The dashboard and any plastic features would have been melting at that point, too.
Steel (which makes up around 60-65% of the entire car - pretty much anything to do with the suspension and steering, and some stuff on the wheels, the frame and the chassis) melts at 2500°f - 2800°f. Stainless steel is also commonly used around the exhaust, and for bolts and brackets - the melting point for stainless steel is 2750°f. See, steel bends and warps as it heats up beyond its melting point, and it would make the car lose its shape as it melted (this is what gives burned down cars that "exploded" Look, because of how the steel bends and warps).
Aluminium (what the engine and wheels are usually made from) is a lot lighter and durable, and will melt at 865°f - 1240°f, depending on the density and chemical make up. Typically the body of the car will be made from this metal, since it's lighter, easier to work with, and doesn't rust so it looks nicer for longer and is easier for people to maintain.
Iron may have been used, since it was a 90s model, since iron was a common metal to use for the engines in older (70s and older) cars, since it was heavy and durable. Modern cars won't have that though, so with it being a 90s model there honestly isn't an easy way to say yes or no for sure, but I don't think there would have been iron in it - if there was, it would have been for engine parts. Either way, iron melts at 2060°f - 2900°f (cast iron is 2060°f-2200°f, wrought iron is 2700°f-2900°f, and ductile iron is 2100°f).
Modern cars can have titanium dioxide used in them, since it's such an amazingly light metal, but I doubt a rundown 90s ford would have had it (a shame, really). Nowadays it's used around the exhaust and intake valves. (3040°f is the rough melting point, for anyone curious)
Plastic is used in more modern car bodies, to make it more eco friendly, lighter and cheaper. With this model though, the plastic would have been on the inside - the seats, the dash, the wheel cover, and this would all have been starting to melt at around 167°f .
I wish carbon fibre would have been used in this model because that shit is amazing when it melts (over 6000°f) but that's typically only used in high end luxury sports and racing cars so isn't relevant here.
Now that we've got the numbers and melting points and what's actually flammable versus what will just melt and burn -
Scenario most likely in canon:
If Neil put her body in the passenger seat fully dressed, then poured gasoline on her, and over the rest of the car, stepped the fuck back and threw a lighter in the open window, then went and sat down around 20 feet away to wait on his mother getting toasted.
Experience / process:
Her body would have caught fire first and started to burn, while the interior of the car heated up and began to melt. Her hair and flesh would have burned first. Since the interior of the car would have been around 500°f at this point, the seats would have been melting slowly. Her clothes would have been next, along with the deeper layers of flesh and tissue.
The burning gasoline combined with melting plastic plus the literal fire would have been creating a decent plume of black smoke at this point. Not grey, not charcoal, jet black. The fumes would be horrific and extremely toxic at this point.
Neil, sitting around 20 yards away, even if he was downwind, would have been passing out at this point or at the very best, getting extremely light headed, confused, disorientated and uncoordinated.
Outcome one:
Neil passes out and dies from fume inhalation within oh.. 20 minutes. People from the town notice the giant plume of black smoke at the beach, and their entire area near it is covered in black smog and toxic fumes, since it's being carried along by the sea breeze. Emergency services are called, the press get wind of it, and oh wow there's a dead boy and a flaming car - they put the fire out and Mary's body is still like 80% in tact and identifiable.
Outcome two:
Neil is disorientated and high from the fumes, but is downwind and more than 20 yards from it so hasn't passed out yet and he's trying to get away but is uncoordinated af, the smoke plume is being carried by the breeze and going over into the neighbouring areas, and it's a few kilometres high so people start coming down to the beach and calling emergency services because oh God there's a body in a burning car and a boy acting delirious and mumbling to himself and fighting people. Mary's body is still identifiable by the time the fire gets put out, and Neil is all over the papers and in jail and his father's men come fetch him. He has some sort of brain damage from the fumes but doesn't live long enough to know the extent of it because his father kills him.
Either way:
He does not get to just waltz over to the car, take his mother's bones out of the oven and bury them before walking away unharmed and without anyone noticing.
Now, what he should have done to burn her body without dying or drawing attention to himself:
Taken her body and the car to a forest area, built an upside down pyre (basically a fancy upside down bonfire, but with room for a body inside), and then stripped her, put her in the pyre, lit it and fucked off for a few hours in the car, long enough to dispose of her clothes, possessions and come up with a fucking plan while getting about a gallon of water and bulk buying some flour, before going back to the pyre (no one would have noticed it since upside down pyres basically look like random jenga towers of wood, and there's no smoke plume grabbing people's attention because the smoke goes down the way, but the fire stays strong because of slots in the way the pyre is built so oxygen still gets in to feed the flames and the gases still go out the air vents), and carefully dismantled it, using the water and flour to put the flames out (flour kills oxygen, it's great for putting out small home fires and one of the safest ways to put out electrical fires, and the water would have lowered the temperature while they would both work to keep the smoke plume to a minimum if he worked methodically), and then taken her charred bones, ground them up and then buried them a foot or so deep in the soil, and fucked off.
Side note: none of the above things smell anything like tobacco or cigarette smoke when they burn, so him using the second hand smoke from cigarettes to trigger the memory... doesn't add up either
Voila, plot hole pointed out, made deeper and sort of solved.
I know Nora claims Neil and Andrew aren’t huggers but during Neil’s last year Andrew flies in to watch one of his games without telling him ahead of time and Neil rUNS over as soon as they are done to leap into his arms and you can’t convince me otherwise
k but like, im assuming neild have some sort of baltimore accent somewhere after being raised there
and neil getting drunk one night with his foxes and after a bit the foxes notice the accent change. idk who, but someone realizes its a baltimore accent and probably nicky remembers this video. he proceeds to write out the sentence and give it to neil to say
lets just say neil gets confused and the other foxes have a great time
i was just at tesco and a woman called out from behind me, "young lady we can all see you ass" and i turned around without thinking and just said, "and it seems like the wrong types of women are noticing"
the highlight of my day
neil josten would 100% be the type of person to dislocate his shoulder mid practise, pop it back in himself and continue on playing like it's no big deal while the foxes look on with horror like "neil no..!"
the foxes go to disney land and a kid goes up to kevin thinking hes prince eric
ive started listening to the AFTG audiobook with my mum BUT I FORGOT ABOUT THE SHOWER SCENE AND THE OTHER SCENE
WHAT HAVE I DONE
k for kevin day » chosen by @kevinparrishes & @neilkevin
↳ the only thing that mattered to kevin was exy.
i think we as a fandom don’t talk enough about how fucking funny the gray man is. i’ve been debating what points to make in my case and have narrowed it down to two
1) deciding maura is probably an environmentalist because she doesn’t wear shoes indoors
2) being like “okay i will straight up beat a man to death and leave his body for his high school aged kid to find but i absolutely am not doing kidnapping. too much work involved in preserving the cargo. also alive people talk and cry and beg and i’m not into it. please let me drive around with bludgeoned corpses in the back in peace”
like PLEASE ..... PLEASE he canonically is like “honestly i’d be down to hit ronan with a semi truck and then bury his body in the woods where itll never be found but i am Too Honorable to kidnap him” and everyone’s like “yeah that sounds like normal priorities. anyway wyd later”
-„tamquam“-
-„alter idem“-
(I kept my promise and completely changed ... nearly everything.)
you ever think that dan felt a bit seperated from wymack after they found out he was kevins dad?
like wymack feels like so much of a father figure to her and he didnt have any kids, its was kinda just him and her, and dan learning what an actual parental figure felt like and suddenly he has an actual biological child that he ends up treating like a son (by then end of her second year probably; both wymack and kevin would probably need a while to get used to the fact)
Matt: Neil are you sure you can pick out your own clothes, because I don’t think—
Neil:
HC that post The King's Men, Aaron and Neil start tolerating each other
Neil stumbles upon Katelyn in the library one day. He surprises both of them by asking if he can sit at her table. She agrees, pushing her books aside, giving him a tentative smile.
They mostly work in silence, but one day, she puts her book down and haltingly asks him how he is doing. Neil is so startled that he stumbles while sitting down.
They talk about Andrew, about Aaron, about classes they like, Katelyn’s family, about the summer she sprained her ankle trying to copy a dance step off youtube, about the way alcohol always reminds him of his mother in unpleasant ways, about Exy, about nothing and everything.
One day, Aaron comes in search of her and stops short when he sees the two of them sitting together, arguing about something. He stops a few feet away and watches Josten shake his head fondly and hold his hands up placatingly even as Katelyn picks up a book to throw at him and wonders when it happened.
He walks toward the table, hesitant for some reason and watches them look up at him, sees Katelyn’s whole face light up, sees Neil stiffen for a second, then relax.
None of them know when two becomes three but soon Aaron becomes part of their study circle. He and Neil dish out the tea on Exy players to Katelyn’s utter delight.
One night, Aaron and Neil walk back to the dorms, furiously discussing the pros and cons of getting a haircut at a salon versus cutting it yourself. They find the rest of the Foxes at the parking lot of Fox Tower gawping at the two of them.
“When did that happen?” Andrew telegraphs with a swift movement of his shoulder and Neil only shrugs in response.
Aaron and Neil don’t always talk outside of the library, but the ice definitely thaws.
It reflects on their game, thrilling Kevin to no end. Every time he brings it up, it ends in a chorus of “shut up, Day.”
Over the years, it has gotten to a point where Andrew grudgingly accepts Katelyn’s presence, and Neil and Aaron openly admit that they don’t hate each other.
Sometimes when Andrew and Neil fight, Neil goes to Aaron with a “why is he like this?” while Andrew watches, incredulously, as if to say “seriously? you’re snitching to my brother?”
Sometimes on Eden nights, Katelyn and Neil team up to dish on their respective partners.
This almost always results in Aaron and Andrew glaring at them from across the table.
None of them will ever admit to each other that they’re all important to each other, but the truth is loud anyway.
Andrew goes pro, Aaron and Katelyn take up medicine. Neil’s call logs now look like this: Andrew, Matt, Kevin, Katelyn, Aaron and incoming calls from Nicky.
When Neil goes pro, he finds himself in the same city as Aaron and Katelyn to Andrew’s secret delight and Katelyn’s very open delight. Aaron grumbles, but they all know how he feels anyway.
Neil gets them tickets to his first game. Andrew flies six hours to see him. If he sits next to Aaron, no one points it out. They like their fingers intact, thank you.
Neil spends holidays with them, he spends boring evenings with them, he spends hours listening to Katelyn grumble about course load and her classmates, he occasionally listens to Aaron panic about life.
When he transfers to a different team he realises with a pang that he actually misses them.
Andrew is annoyed when Neil insists that they spend the holidays together.
It becomes a sort-of tradition; Christmas and New Year’s at Andreil’s and summer at Aaron and Katelyn’s. Kevin and Nicky always come. The other Foxes drop in whenever they can.
It takes years, but Neil and Aaron never admit out loud that they mean something to each other.
“Your brother is annoying.” “That’s on you, junkie.”
“How do you even stand, Neil?!” “YOU invited him, Aaron.”
By now Andrew and Katelyn exchange a shrug which almost always translates to “they’re stupid, aren’t they?”
@djhedy take some Neil-Aaron bonding.
foxes + waterfight = someone will probably get hurt
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adhd neil josten
high pain threshold. do I really need to cite sources for this one?
the routine of checking his binder and being unable to calm himself down until he does (also his mind immediately going to the worst-case scenario of it being stolen/someone having gone through it despite how unlikely that is, given that it’s in a safe)
every time he feels a strong emotion or needs to process something he goes running,, needing to be in movement to process thoughts or emotions?? That’s a mood
That time in the first book when he looks at homework for one class, can’t focus on it, gets out another book for another class’s homework, can’t focus on that either, then gets out a third book and can’t focus on that and gives up. Just… that whole situation
As opposed to Andrew’s sensory-seeking behaviors, he avoids sensory-heavy things! He doesn’t like loud music or sweets, his favorite color is gray (dare I say it’s because it’s so calm and muted and he doesn’t like bright colors?), and he doesn’t like movies (my interpretation is he doesn’t have the attention span for them)
The constant reflex of “I’m fine” even when he is clearly not and everyone around him knows it’s a lie (idk if that has anything to do with it but i do the same thing so)
can’t read people’s emotions for shit. He really watched Andrew barely suppress his feelings for him for a whole trilogy and he was the last one to realize, which didn’t happen until Andrew explicitly told him.
Exy being like running in helping him process things/being an outlet for his need to always be in motion
Hypervigilance
Stubborn as hell
Not super aware of his own emotions?? Every time Neil has an emotion it’s just “hm yes,,, I am feeling Something,,, but I am not sure What”
a fucking master at suppressing and bottling up his emotions
like andrew, will not do ANYTHING he doesn’t want to once again… i rest my case
