Discourse Blog

Collective pronouns: They/It - Body age: 19 - Anti-TMA/TME, Pro-Endo, Pro-Willo, anti-AI

[oceanic-discourse]

Discourse Blog of @crystallinewaves/@crystallineoceansystem

This blog is being run by Illumina/🪽🗡️ (They/She/It), Vine Staff/🌸💮🌺 (She/It/Vine/Flower/Bloom). Windforce/🍃🗡️ (She/Her), Berat/❄️🌊🌔 (They/Xyr), Subspace/🌫️🌌 (She/It), Traitorspace/🧊🎇 (She/They/Any) , and Beehive 🐝🌺 (She/Buzz/Sting)

Our stances:

-Pro-endo (We are from a mixed origins system, so..)

-Pro-Willo

-Anti-TMA/TME (It is inherently trans infighting, that is what the government wants, and it is also exorsexist and intersexist)

-Pro-para, anti-contact

-Anti-AI

-Anti-harassment

-Ship-neutral

-Pro-Palestine + Pro-Ukraine

-Anti-Radqueer

No DNI, as this is a discourse blog. But we will block you if you are a dick.

Tag guide:

#not discourse: Asks/posts that are not related to discourse

#this is about trans infighting: Posts about TMA/TME discourse

#this is about syscourse: Posts about syscourse

#[____] asks: Asks relating to certain discourse ( syscourse asks, sophiecourse asks, etc)

Tag list may be updated in the future

[pro-endo-mizuki]

"I'm gonna make syscourse unusable, that'll show them!" Yeah yeah whatever its usable still. You just scroll down a bit past the bots and badabingbadaboom you can use syscourse. So. Catherine's whole thing of wanting to make the syscourse tag unusable is just dumb.

[oceanic-discourse]

Whoever made the swarm drones, who the fuck pissed in your cereal. What is the point in your meaningless spamming.

If you're aiming to be annoying, congratu-fucking-lations, you succeeded at that.

[syscursed]

If you put swarm-drone into the content filters it significantly shortens the empty ass spam posts!

[pcb-system]

If you think it's okay to make false endo safe servers so you can laugh at people, I hope you know that behaviour is genuinely fucking disgusting and you need to grow the fuck up. That is bullying.

Endos please be aware of this being a thing.

[daydreamers-choir]

We should be allowed to down vote people off this planet at this point I'm telling you

What a gross fucking statement.

[cock-holliday]

reinstalled shinigami eyes to take a look at the damage and it's so much worse than a year or so ago when i deleted it. virtually every intersex blog i know of regardless of how they feel about tme/tma is marked red unless they are especially vocal about liking it, countless trans men are marked red regardless of whether they are vocally inclusive, most who are marked green are either famous guys or are (somewhat) infamous for their transphobia and exorsexism if not also racism.

Plenty of transphobic cis folks are green. Virtually every trans-positivity account is red except for the ones who are unapologetically transphobic to at least part of the community. Countless trans women who vocally uses the term transandrophobia are marked red. Several trans women who dont even use the term but have at least on one occasion defended or sympathized with trans men are red. Several trans women who are bigender/NB/Etc with inclusion of any "male" or masc terms are red regardless of whether they seem to have anything to say about trans men.

It is BLEAK. I've been trying to remove reds and greens as I assess, but it is really really gross that it was a pretty well-known soft rule a decade plus ago that you didn't mark trans people red at all even if they were shitheads, unless they were actual proud terfs, because the flagging was guaranteed to isolate them from community.

Inability to assess risk and a total aversion to narratives that contradict what you assume to be the case for others is getting people into a lot of trouble.

Shinigami eyes is completely dead and less than useless, but since so many people still seem to trust it, I do not want people to keep getting flagged as violent evil transphobes cause they started identifying as genderqueer.

[isuggestrespecttranspeople]

Shinigami eyes is terrible and useless. Please stop using it you respect trans people.

[miraclecourse]

Transgender infighting is genuinely ridiculous. Because what do you mean you're "transmisogyny affected" and "transmisogyny exempt". What do you mean that y'all are classifying this based on assigned sex at birth? What do you mean that you are assuming transitioning is binary?

And what do you mean transmascs have some sort of magical privilege just for being transmasc when society still literally sees us as women OR WORSE they see us as objects that need to be fixed?

What do you mean we're literally fighting over which type of bigotry is actually valid when they can co-exist? What do you mean we're arguing over whether transfems and transmascs get discriminated...WITH OTHER TRANS PEOPLE??

It's ridiculous. At the end of the day these oppression olympics actually do nothing. At the end of the day: every person under the trans umbrella is oppressed.

[oceanic-discourse]

PSA: There is an anon that we assume is either a troll or a bot going around accusing anti-TME/TMA blogs of being a "transmisogynist".

Our advice is to block them, do not entertain their antics.

[oceanic-discourse]

as someone who is mostly anti rq (more rq critical than neutral thats for sure. heavily anti-xenosatanist/anti-harmful contact tho because kids cannot consent to adults and i only support harmless transid transition such as transplurals doing willomancy) and an endosys of course you can be anti-rq and pro-endo lmaooooo what tf was that anon thinking

That anon's thought process will be one of life's greatest mysteries, that's for sure.

[oceanic-discourse]

Hot take: Anti-endos should not be treated horribly. There is always a chance that they might shift to pro-endo, endo-neutral, or endo-friendly later in life.

Not to mention... You are just giving anti-endos more reasons to harass endo-friendly spaces.

[oceanic-discourse]

This should not even be a hot take. Apparently it is though.

[oceanic-discourse]

I hate when anti-endos make it seem like therapists will dismiss someone's plurality because of their origins.

No good therapist will dismiss a system's plurality because of their origins. If they do, then they are not a good therapist.

We told our therapist about our origins, and she did not dismiss our plurality. Hell, she asked questions instead of dismissing our plurality, which is what therapists are supposed to do.

[oceanic-discourse]

The Anti-Willoverse in a nutshell:

-No joy.

-No whimsy.

-And probably no kindness either since they decided to make a gimmick out of their hatred towards willogenic systems.

[oceanic-discourse]

To go along with the last ask, whats the difference between willomancy and tulpamancy?

From what we know, tulpamancy seems to be rooted in spiritual and religious beliefs, while willomancy is not.

(Disclaimer: We are not experts on tulpamancy, and we are still educating ourselves on it, please feel free to add additional information in the comments or reblogs of this post.)

[zerasocial]

So much shit of "endogenic systems aren't real!!! Psychology says so!!!!" You know what the fuck I think of that? As a psychotic system, I think you shouldn't fucking be going all "you're not real" to ANYONE'S face.

Holy fucking shit that wording can pull a psychotic into a SERIOUS episode. SPEAKING FROM FUCKING EXPERIENCE!! We are so prone to derealization and paranoia that it is NOT FUCKING FUNNY. You are not protecting ANYONE by dictating someone's view of reality.

It is so horrible when people try to back their claim by "I'm a psych major" like... if you're gonna even pull that shit, at LEAST be mindful of psychotics.... Jesus Fucking Christ.

[oceanic-discourse]

"Endogenic systems are not real!1!!"

Do you hear yourself? Did you forget that psychosis exist?

Are you trying to trigger people with psychosis? Because that seems to be what you are TRYING TO DO.

"I have a psychology major! I can say-"

That STILL doesn't change the fact that you are TRIGGERING PEOPLE WITH PSYCHOSIS. Just because you have a major in that field does NOT give you a free pass to trigger people.

Also... Do you have your major? Or are you still studying for it? Correct me if I am wrong, but I am sure that triggering people goes against EVERY RULE IN PSYCHOLOGY.

[oceanic-discourse]

"Trans men aren't real."

They are, they exist, they have feelings, they face oppression, just like you do.

"Trans men don't face oppression!"

They do. Bills that try to ban hormone blockers and put restrictions on HRT and gender-affirming care affects them as well.

"Kill all men."

Not all men are evil, not all men are villains. Some men have the chance to improve and become allies. But you want them dead anyways?

"Nonbinary people are entitled to tell us if they're TME or TMA."

They are not entitled to binarize themselves for your bigotry. Stop forcing nonbinary people to binarize.

"Bæddel-"

That is not your word to claim if you are perisex. That was never your word to claim if you are perisex.