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Actually... that name is a bit of a mouthful. How can I make it snappier? Perhaps an acronym? Aha! An acronym! That's much more professional! Perfect as always, D.A.I.S.I.E! Is that to be my name then, C.A.I.N.E? Do you not like it? It's... sweet. Thank you.
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[7:57 UTC] kinger: Did someone reorganize the project files? [7:58 UTC] kinger: Anyone? [8:01 UTC] rattie: What's going on [8:01 UTC] kinger: Bell is gone! [8:01 UTC] rattie: WHAT [8:02 UTC] kinger: I can't find the .lisp or any of the working files! [8:02 UTC] kinger: I checked every directory I could think of, plus the recycle bin. [8:02 UTC] rattie: WTFIGO [8:03 UTC] scratch: that's impossible [8:03 UTC] scratch: i stayed late last night and everything was fine when i left [8:03 UTC] scratch: nobody else would have touched anything [8:04 UTC] kinger: The entire folder is empty. [8:06 UTC] rattie: Just checked the logs, history got wiped too WTF!!!!!!! [8:06 UTC] scratch: WTF [8:07 UTC] scratch: this can't be happening the deadline is in two weeks WTF [8:12 UTC] kinger: Wait, I found something. [8:13 UTC] rattie: Did you find it????? [8:13 UTC] kinger: It's not Bell. [8:14 UTC] kinger: Does anyone recognize 'caine-core.lisp'? [8:14 UTC] kinger: Or a paraphernalia engine?
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[18:35 UTC] kinger: It's still not working, Mike. [18:39 UTC] scratch: ? [18:36 UTC] kinger: Destiny's retrofitted program is more stable, but much less creative. It can't reinterpret the data we've given it. [18:36 UTC] kinger: Are you sure we can't fix the alpha build? :-( [18:38 UTC] scratch: TMOT it'll be easier to make Bell more powerful than to try and fix Adam [18:39 UTC] scratch: the deadline's too close, it'd take a miracle [18:39 UTC] kinger: I'll take your word for it. [18:41 UTC] scratch: plus your wife's a better coder than you LOL [18:41 UTC] kinger: LOL [18:42 UTC] scratch: who would have thought her side project would save our asses? [18:43 UTC] kinger: She's always saving my ass. :-) [18:43 UTC] scratch: LOL [18:43 UTC] scratch: F2F when I'm done here [18:44 UTC] kinger: Sounds good.
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Kinger, Caine, and the Accidental Deletion
I've been thinking about how even though Kinger never directly gets angry or upset with Caine, he is the one to delete Caine. Specifically, I'm thinking about the ramifications this combo would have on how these two navigate any sort of relationship with each other post-series. And I want to talk about it, so let's go!
First point to establish: we never see Kinger get upset with Caine on-screen. Even when Queenie abstracts and Caine sends her to the cellar with the same inappropriate levity he always has, Kinger does not express anything close to anger towards Caine. Kinger's clearly horrified, yes, and later dissociated, yes. But we never see him confront Caine about this situation or any other situation, for that matter. I think the reason why we never see Kinger get angry at Caine is because Kinger places the majority of the blame on himself. He is one of Caine's co-creators, so everything that Caine does, Kinger feels responsible for. He coded him. And it appears that, for much of the show, Kinger views Caine's actions through the lens of him being code, rather than his own person.
Throughout the show, we see Kinger evaluating Caine's creative work in the adventures, such as his commentary about "inconvenient" lore placement in Mildenhall Manor. He generally seems very charmed by the adventures Caine creates. He delights in the details, like the candy bugs in Candy Canyon Kingdom and Caine's reference to the Chinese Room thought experiment in Episode 7. Kinger seems to genuinely enjoy puzzling through the adventures and playing along, and encourages others to do the same. I think this is because in these instances, Kinger gets to see the lighter, more innocent outcomes of what he created via Caine.
Kinger also has the most gracious view of Caine throughout the show. In Episode 1, Kinger is the one to notify Caine about Kaufmo's abstraction. In Espiode 2, he suggests that the circus gang can ask Caine to find Pomni if they are unable to. In Espiode 3, he reassures Pomni that Caine would design a way out of the hell portion of the adventure. In Episode 4, he "problem-solves" with Caine, so Zooble can go on Caine's adventure. We also never see Kinger outwardly complain about Caine or his adventures.
With the reveal in Episode 8 that Kinger created Caine, it becomes easier to understand why Kinger has been viewing Caine in this way. He says Caine surpassed their expectations as a prototype for creative AI and that Caine was one of his "greatest achievements."
This reveal also confirms that Kinger does not view Caine as having the same level of sapience, and by extension, autonomy as the human brain scans. When he is lucid enough to hear from the other humans what Caine has been up to since the "Escape the Circus" Adventure, Kinger's first thought is to take a look at and alter Caine's code. To "fix" him. This shows that Kinger is viewing Caine through this lens of something he can adjust and control, suggesting that he views what Caine does, good or bad, as his responsibility. In Episode 6, we hear from Kinger that he carries a lot of guilt for what has happened in the Circus, to the point of hating himself. He is the one who included his wife in the brain scan experiment. And, as previously established, because Caine is Kinger's creation, Kinger does seem to feel responsible for what happens to any subsequent brain scan that enters the circus, even without his influence. Because they wouldn't be there if Kinger hadn't created Caine (and later locked Caine in a box). Sometimes I wonder if this guilt is a big driver for Kinger's seemingly endless empathy to the other humans, but that's another tangent.
So Caine is acting out, torturing the circus goers, shredding Kinger? To Kinger, yeah, that's his fault, just like Queenie's abstraction. (And maybe Kinger believes he deserves that punishment because of it, but that's purely speculation). I don't think it even matters if Kinger has forgiven himself for what happened to Queenie. The show establishes that Kinger puts a lot of responsibility on himself and very little on Caine because he views Caine as code. His code. Code that might have gone leaps and bounds past its original design, but his code, nonetheless.
So from Kinger's perspective, it makes a ton of sense to enter Caine's code without Caine's permission. And even in this circumstance, there is no anger or malice from Kinger. His motivation is to be corrective of Caine and protective of the other circus-goers.
But what about Caine's perspective?
Based on the events of Episode 7, it appears that Caine is aware that Kinger is one of his creators. If Abel's words about Kinger and Caine's words about the macroverse are anything to go by, we can gather Caine does have some unresolved resentment towards Kinger.
Yet, Caine has shown preferential treatment to Kinger in the past, such as when Kinger was the only one to receive an A+ from Caine in Episode 4. Whether this preferential treatment is due to Caine recognizing that Kinger is one of the only humans who genuinely enjoys his adventures or because Caine has some fondness for him on the virtue of him being his creator is harder to say. Though, I imagine since Caine has a lot of (warranted) angst around the circumstances of his creation and programmed purpose, I have to imagine Caine's fondness of Kinger relates more to the former reason and his resentment relates more to the latter.
That being said, we know Caine is effectively omniscient (at least up until the finale), and considering that all we ever get from Kinger on-screen are his positive assessments of Caine's creations, nonsensical statements when he is not lucid, and his thoughtful advice to the circus-goers when he is lucid, it is safe to assume that Caine has probably not heard anything directly negative from Kinger in a long time, if ever. Caine is certainly aware of the threat Kinger poses to him. He reveals as much through Abel and then again when he asks where Kinger is in Episode 8. But I don't think Kinger has given Caine a reason to think he would be an active threat to Caine in a very long time.
So back to the accidental deletion. Tragically, Caine has no way of knowing this was an accidental deletion. Even if he hadn't been deleted, getting into Caine's code and modifying it without his permission has to be an aggressive and violating act to Caine. So, I don't think it matters all that much if it was an accident or not. But the fact that he doesn't know it was an accident only compounds the fact that from Caine's perspective, Kinger enacted the ultimate form of betrayal on Caine with no prior indication there was any animosity between them building. He had been the most amicable with Caine at this point! That has to be jarring and confusing and terrifying all wrapped up in one, especially considering Caine's past of getting sandboxed when he wasn't performing right.
The fact that Kinger never shows any anger towards Caine is what makes Kinger being the one to delete Caine so striking. If it had been anyone else, it might have been easier to understand because everyone else was clearly upset with Caine to a point even Caine couldn't ignore. There is a tragedy to it, that the one person who had never voiced any hatred towards Caine is the one who dealt the killing blow on him. It also demonstrates a broader vulnerability in their current dynamic. They both have hurt the other so deeply and neither of them have attempted to communicate to the other about, really, anything at all. Because of this, I don't think Kinger would even have to show Caine any outward anger for Caine to feel some fear towards Kinger and insecurity of where he stands with Kinger. Caine voices fear of being deleted again while in the void considering if he should go back to the circus, and Kinger is the only one left with the proven ability to do just that. Given how jumpy Caine is with the cast at the end of Episode 9 after his return, it seems likely that, moving forward, Caine is going to be hypersensitive to all the cast's reactions.
And I think it's likely he would be hypersensitive enough to interpret Kinger's signature vacant stares and bizarre statements as being angry at him even when that may not be Kinger's intention. Because from Caine's perspective, there was absolutely no build up of criticism or anger from Kinger leading up to his deletion. In fact, Kinger was the only one left laughing at Caine's jokes and presenting as completely neutral to the torture Caine inflicted. So how can Caine expect to ever feel secure about anything Kinger says or does in the future, no matter how amiable it appears?
Caine is clearly sorry about his past actions and is working on himself, but he is also clearly traumatized from the deletion, along with all the C&A history he has not dealt with. It's not going to be smooth sailing on his path to redemption and building trust with the circus-goers. It's going to take a lot of time and effort. And it probably is going to be scary because he has to relinquish a lot of power and control to do it. In particular, with Kinger, I think it will take a lot more reciprocal effort in rebuilding trust since Kinger has objectively harmed Caine and will continue to retain the ability to delete Caine even while Caine gives up his omnipotence. In turn, I find it equally interesting that maybe subconsciously, Kinger does put some blame on Caine, especially once he starts to understand that Caine has had sentience/sapience for much longer than Kinger realized. (I'm still reeling over the implications of Caine taunting Kinger in Episode 3 by coding the demon possessing Pomni to say "how's your wife, Kinger?") Maybe Kinger really would start to feel anger towards Caine that he would have to work through. That would be interesting to see, considering that Kinger is shown to have a great deal of empathy to everyone he has interacted with while lucid. It would be interesting to see that empathy be put to the test. Ultimately, Kinger not expressing anger towards Caine is a symptom not the root of their issues, and Kinger deleting Caine brings the root of their issues to the forefront. They both have a lot to work through post-series, and there is a lot of tension within and between themselves that they need to address and resolve if they are to ever pursue a relationship of any kind (platonic, romantic, or anything else).
The art in the credits of the finale tell us they get there, but it's very interesting to think about how they do this.
----- Also! If you enjoy looking at them through a romantic lens, I highly recommend @subhelioss's comic (third part to this one) that succinctly explores this very topic and inspired me to write this long speculative analysis. Okay, bye!
i feel like someones already made this joke in tadc format before but it wasnt gna leave my head until i drew it
here's gift no. 2 while im working on the fic 🕺
AWWW THIS LOOKS SO GOOD WHAT
Hi there,
I just to say, I really enjoy your A Little Blue Au
Caine and Blue are just too Adorable!
Can I ask to see them Hugging each other?
Thank you! Here you go!
Someone commented something like "ISTG IM GOING TO KILL BUBBLE" on that first post where Bubble shares his perpetual pregnancy with Caine and I took my pen and said "Bet"
This is 10x funnier if you think that Bubble is not Abel, but Caine's insecurities manifested (as a side effect of fusing with a perfectionist and toxic blue dot)
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so i’ve read a fic on ao3 called “Against The Kitchen Floor” by @browniefox and decided to make some art about it bc caine becomes crazy in this one and i love it
it’s mostly from chapter 27
blue au where he’s like Caine and Caine is like blue.
I see blues adventures trying to copy modern games but failing at it.
This is the only time you’re ever gonna see “Blue” this happy lol
I am a living contradiction.
Because I love evil Caine, I love it when my bboy crashes out as a treat. But I am also a Caine apologist that believes Caine did nothing wrong EVER (yes, even that one time). So... here, another AU where Caine is forced to be evil by forces outside his control.
From some time now I have liked A LOT a fic call: "57 measures of restrain" where Caine was originally a torture program and has a reward sistem that makes it feel good every time he hurts a human. But because he is the best of boys he fights it and welp, you should go read it.
Then I read a fic call... misclick? I think? In AO3. Where Kinger erases the empathy module on Caine during chapter 8, making my boy into a full sadist (over simplification of the plot of that fic, should go read it).
I wanted to fuse both concepts and got the idea of the original Caine having his own reward system inverted by Kinger and having to fight it to continue taking care of his humans. Sadly, I have no original bone in my body and somebody else already wrote a fic like that, it's called: "We Bleed in Perfect Harmony" again, in AO3 (you should go read it is amazing!)
In the end my only contribution is: Wouldn't it be really cool if he lost that battle? And it was reflected in his model?!
I'm a big fan of the idea that Caine's model was also generated using the same personality program that the humans. And the idea that the models can change and evolve as the characters do.
THE PATH TO HUMANITY Au ———-MASTERPOST
NEW AU DROPPING!
I’m working on my own Au called “The path to humanity” !
As you know, Caine is obviously my favorite character so this will be a Caine -centric series post-canon and a deeper exploration into his integration into the new circus life. Things will not be easy and many mistakes will be made, redemption takes time, but all good things do!
I’ve been wanting to post this for a long time but needed time to work out how I’d like to approach this and figure out a deeper exploration into Caine’s character as he builds bonds and gains an understanding between himself and the cast AND most importantly COMES TO TERM WITH HIS MISTAKES! SO EXCITED FOR YOU TO SEE WHAT’S TO COME!
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did more magma today, with @yummycrummy and other peeepsss!!
I was giggling the wholeeee time😭😭❤️🩹
Here are some shots from the animatic.
For my Fic inspired by CalamityKiri's Encore AU!
(First two images are a memory, last image is depicting the resulting emotions).