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Masterpost!
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Like a Homing Pidgeon
If i wrote a Red Hood Solo series
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having Normal thoughts abt primehood
AHHHH IM BACK IN THE FUCKING BUILDING AGAIN
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now that fatson is canon what do they call him in-universe, the fed hood?
the primehood dynamic of “guy who’s inevitable fate is to die in every universe” and “guy who cannot be killed” is something that is so dear to me
what if instead its "guy who's fated to die in every universe" x "guy who will always bring him back" instead?
If that panel leak of Prime in redhood merch is real it would be like if Erin Hunter overheard you and your friends playing warrior cats on the playground and then made it the plot of next book
crazy thing is that comic books take months to write and draw so they were planning that in advance, we just collectively became physic and knew it was going to happen
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Right! Finally time to talk about Superman #36.
I have a few thoughts about Prime's relation to "the narrative" in this - in that I'm wondering if he's influencing it more than he might think. Perhaps his "reality-breaking" powers extend being his reality-shattering punch...
I posit that Prime is finally getting is "OP isekai protagonist" buffs. Or, he's able to influence reality enough that those buffs start getting applied. Because oh man - the stars really aligned for him this issue.
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On: things that fucked me up today!
One of Tim's main reasonings for becoming Robin in ALPoD is "we can't let villains think they can kill Robin", which is supported by Harvey, and later KGBeast assuming Tim is Jason. This means that it's likely most people in Gotham believe the robins are Dick, Tim, Steph, and Damian. Jason's deeds as Robin have been fully erased, retroactively added to Tim's tenure as Robin.
Except for one thing! Joker repeatedly says that he killed Robin. Calls it "It's the day I won", makes a big deal out of it. (yes, Joker is the only one that has ever made an effort to maintain Jason's legacy as Robin. no wonder he was mad)
So that's it right, the people do know Jason existed, right? Well no. Because of Batman 408. In it, we learn the post crisis reason for Dick retiring as Robin: Joker shot him, and Bruce decided to forcefully retire Robin. It's stated that the people think Robin is dead. And considering two issues later Jason calls himself the second Robin, that's unlikely to have been disproved.
So, when people hear Joker bragging about killing Robin, they're likely to assume he's talking about the first one. Even Jason's death gets added to someone else's legacy.
Tim stole Jason's life as Robin. Dick stole his death.
The fuckin' AIDS thing is so disgusting to me, it's the worst part of it all. The pandemic is in full swing, so many people were dying and losing loved ones, the government was failing them because they don't give a shit about gay people, and Starlin's response to hearing about an AIDS education comic is "omg a great opportunity to kill off a character I hate". AIDS is a punishment in his eyes. And to still brag about it, years later?
Honestly DC is also disgusting for holding a vote on which character should die of AIDS in the first place too, what the fuck is that, that's new info to me. Though I guess that's consistent with them being ghoulish and cynical at that time.
(Significant reason I'm on Team Jason and sickened by the whole thing and when people make the "they had the right idea killing him I wish I could have voted" I'm like, you're literally agreeing with people who saw AIDS as a punishment. Who used rape and violence against women as a plot device to make Jason "unlikable". Saying you'd put money in their pockets over a cheap publicity stunt. I don't think that's as progressive as you think it is.)
WAIT WAIT WAIT
FUCK
I FINALLY ARTICULATED WHY I LIKED JASON'S ARC IN FUTURE STATE
so the thing with future state is that jason becomes a peacekeeper for the magistrate, which is basically a rent-a-cop/bounty hunter for a deeply corrupt company that's trying to control gotham through an authoritarian police state. and at first, it's like wow, okay, jason has COMPLETELY given up on morality, right? but then we learn that jason is the only peacekeeper that doesn't kill. the peacekeepers act as bounty hunters, bringing in "criminals" like the masks/vigilantes, and the thing is that they have the option to bring them in dead or alive, and jason ALWAYS brings them in alive.
which, on the surface, is a breach of what jason does in a narrative, right? he is almost ALWAYS the voice advocating for more violence, more permanent ends. so then, why the fuck has he suddenly become this jim gordon figure who is trying to work within and reform this incredibly corrupt system from the inside?
but i think... i think that's the key of it. jim gordon, the one honest cop in the whole of gotham city, the man who championed a one-cop crusade against the unstoppable flow of corruption in her streets, is the blueprint here.
because jason is, in some ways, always the underdog. the scapegoat or the black sheep or the powder keg--however you want to frame it, he's usually a dissenting voice. he has no qualms about standing in opposition to everything and everyone around him. which is why his stance of not killing ANYONE in future state makes so much sense. when the whole world has become okay with killing indiscriminately, when there is basically a genocide happening in gotham's streets, of course jason is going to fight back against the complacency.
jason todd isn't a killer. it isn't that the red hood decided to kill in UTRH/lost days, and so that's his personality now--no, what he ACTUALLY does in a narrative is challenge it. when batman shows too much hope for the villains, when the bats refuse to kill them even though it would reduce the (high!!!) numbers of their future victims--THAT is when jason grandstands about killing rogues. but when there is no hope, and everyone in power is happy to wipe out whoever comes up on the naughty list... well, then that's when jason REFUSES to kill. it's not that he's contrary, or that he's wishy-washy, or that he has no morals--jason todd red hood is, in essence, a critique of the system. when the system forgives, jason asks why. when the system murders, jason asks why. and i think, looking at it through this lens, i can see why jason is the perfect jim gordon figure. after everything, it makes perfect sense that future state!jason has decided that there's been far too much blood spilt, and thus is trying to do something about it.
at the end of the day, jason todd is the voice of the victim. his role in the story just depends on which victim(s) need to be heard the most.
It makes sense that when Jason is forced to be a hand of the state, he refuses to kill.
guy who has read 0 superboy prime comics: superboy prime brought jason todd back from the dead on purpose!
guy who has read 10 superboy prime comics: NO, THAT'S A MISCONCEPTION! SUPERBOY PRIME DID IT ENTIRELY BY ACCIDENT! HE HAD NO CLUE!!!!!!!
guy who has read all of superboy prime's comics 5 times: lowkey he did actually bring jason back from the dead on purpose it was just subconscious Wait guys don't leave No listen to me
someone on twitter said prime would vote to kill jason and it made me enraged so heres a little reminder from me
batman annual #25 and infinite crisis #2
prime did not bring back jason intentionally, BUT it is connected to how he punched the walls of reality out of rage that things were not "right". jason's death is a Key Moment for prime thinking that the current post crisis reality was NOT better than pre-crisis and that something is "wrong" with their universe. physically, he could Not have voted to kill jason because he was stuck in the crystal universe when it happened. mentally, he would not have wanted to. Thanks. Bye.
@arcade-confetti Dude you don't even know. I've seen at least FIVE people on twitter say (both in general and in my replies) that Prime wouldve voted for Jason to die and it makes me Upset because everything about Prime's character (even POST him becoming fully evil) goes against that claim it makes me so mad to think that people believe this misconception so thoroughly!! AUGH
someone on twitter said prime would vote to kill jason and it made me enraged so heres a little reminder from me
batman annual #25 and infinite crisis #2
prime did not bring back jason intentionally, BUT it is connected to how he punched the walls of reality out of rage that things were not "right". jason's death is a Key Moment for prime thinking that the current post crisis reality was NOT better than pre-crisis and that something is "wrong" with their universe. physically, he could Not have voted to kill jason because he was stuck in the crystal universe when it happened. mentally, he would not have wanted to. Thanks. Bye.
Bringing some more examples to this party because I'm back home from work and still am entirely baffled by any claim he'd vote for the death
Countdown (2007) #42
"To them, the concepts of heroes killing, of hero turning against hero-- of heroes actually dying while the results of their handiwork turned against mankind were abhorrent"
Tales of the Sinestro Corps: Superman-Prime (2007)
Adventure Comics (2009) #4
DUDE. you rock. seriously!! thank you so much!!
someone on twitter said prime would vote to kill jason and it made me enraged so heres a little reminder from me
batman annual #25 and infinite crisis #2
prime did not bring back jason intentionally, BUT it is connected to how he punched the walls of reality out of rage that things were not "right". jason's death is a Key Moment for prime thinking that the current post crisis reality was NOT better than pre-crisis and that something is "wrong" with their universe. physically, he could Not have voted to kill jason because he was stuck in the crystal universe when it happened. mentally, he would not have wanted to. Thanks. Bye.
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i got 0 things to add i just wanted ur tags on my blog LMFAO. hes a sweet boy. hes my sweetie pie. he was just sick of seeing evil in the world...
Shout out to boston brand for not only trying to save jason, but being one of the few heroes to not blame him for his death (kinda hard to do when he was literally there)
(Dead man: dead again issue 2)
Most of the issue is boston trying to save jason. At the very end after he dies he blames bruce for not being there
Also here's are some of his thoughts where he's saying how strong and selfless jason was
Boston brand is jasons #1 supporter I need them to interact knowing that boston was there when he died and tried to save him
Of course it’s the dead man who has the most sympathy for Jason.