A writer of Marvel's "Black Panther" questioned whether "douchey" Tony Stark would succeed if introduced today during a SXSW panel.
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A writer of Marvel's "Black Panther" questioned whether "douchey" Tony Stark would succeed if introduced today during a SXSW panel.
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anyway here are some MCU Factsâąïž:
- tâchalla does not like tony stank. neither does shuri. in fact im sure after the shit he pulled in AoU and CW all of wakanda hate his lily white ass and have every single right to hate him
- steve was fully in his right to tell tony to fuck off and save his friend who was being falsely accused of crimes he did not commit or was brainwashed into doing. bucky is innocent no matter what twisting of canon yall want to do
- the accords are legally wrong and tony broke them literally fifteen minutes after signing them anyway so hes a hypocrite in one of many regards
- stop trying to force tony into every single goddamn movie. steve and natasha would have no reason to check up on him in cap 2. literally why wpuld thor care in any of his three movies. tony shouldnât have been in cap 3, he shouldnât have been in homecoming, he shouldnât be in any movie beyond his own and the avengers movies.
- the guardians would not and probably wont like him. i personally hope gamora kick him in the head at some point.
- stop throwing around ârapeâ to demonize steve or wanda. steve beating tony up or wanda showing tony a ~bad image~ isnt rape. yall are literally removing the context of a horrible crime to make tony be a victim which he very much is not
- shuri is 100% smarter than tony. i know you people just HATE the idea that a young black girl would be smarter than your white fave but she is. sheâs also selfless and cares for others without being a complete jackass about it
- aunt may is peterâs guardian no matter what! tony kidnapping him to germany then giving him a suit with a kill option and trying to coerice him into the avengers does not make him peterâs dad! thats so blantantly rude to aunt may also it only makes it clear tony would be a shit parent anway considering he manipulated peter through hero worship and almost got him KILLED because he dragged him into a fight against trained adults who didnt know he was a 15 year old to begin with (HE MADE HIM A CHILD SOLIDER?????)
- bruce, if he was in cw, wouldnât be on tonyâs side because he wouldnât ever let ross control him or his actions, so jot that down
- the other avengers arent âabusingâ tony because they call him out on his shit. steveâs reasoning is obvious in why he hates tony. thor had every reason to choke tony for going behind his back to make dangerous AI. natasha is actually friends with steve and sam and it makes sense sheâd help them out in the end. tony literally EXPOSED CLINTâS FAMILY so of course heâd be against tony?? scott has never like tony so thatâs obvious. wanda lost ALL of her family to tony so she has a very real beef with him. why would sam EVER like tony after he shot him point blank for something THE VISION DID???
- tâchalla, literally only DAYS after seeing his father die in front of him, figured out the truth about bucky and decided to forgive him and take him in so him and shuri could get him back to his old self. in contrast, tony, who was twenty years removed from his parents dying in a plot he didnt even see, still decided after finding out the truth that he wanted to murder bucky for a crime he did not willingly do. the directors CONFIRMED THIS. he was not âsubduingâ him, tony was trying to KILL HIM.
- tony in all mcu canon thus far has never faced any consequences for his actions. even after he broke the accords he pushed for he ran off into the sunset problem free while everyone else has to hide for their safety. name ONE TIME in ANY of the mcu that tony ever faced repercussions for actions? hecause i canât find a single example
- stank is ugly and pepper deserves better
- hes a bad friend and rhody and happy deserve better
- hes a literal war mongerer who makes bank off of damage HE CREATES. stan lee purposely designed him to be a fucking asshole war enabling capitalist and yet none of you seem to care??
- tony is not PoC or progressive or âfemale-codedâ. heâs literally designed to be a white man power fantasty who lbr here would probably vote libertarian (if at all) after shitting on the idea of universal healthcare or reduced military spending. just because he has one (1) black friend doesnât make him a beacon of modern values.
- steve, bucky, and sam are all war veterens with bucky literally being brainwashed and both him and steve having to live during the great depression. natasha was made into a child solider and neutered against her will. clint was also brainwashed. wanda saw both her parents die, felt her brother being killed, and was experimented on til her breaking point. tâchalla saw his father be killed right in front of him. bruce tried to KILL HIMSELF. and yet despite the obvious PTSD they may have, all of them still do their best to be good people and do the right thing. tony on the other hand gets excused left and right for his right on brand bullshit that has actually harmed others because of his PTSD while every other character is demonized to hell and back when they do the right thing??
- tony has a lot of fucking nerve calling wanda a âweapon of mass destructionâ when he made millions (maybe even billions) off of selling actual weapons of mass destruction that has destroyed countless undocumented lives in the mcu for a good chunk of his adult life.
- fuck tony stark i cant wait til he dies
marvel should just bite the bullet and admit that the only REAL way to make use of an ensemble cast the size of the one itâs been slowly accumulating over the past 10 years is to make infinity war a musicalÂ
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which avenger you were really into as a teenager is a far more accurate measure of personality than astrology is. for example, if you liked loki, youâre gay
thor: sports lesbian or hiking lesbian. you probably have nice hair and trouble expressing your feelings without resorting to speeches. cool flannel
cap: bi⊠ready to try.. would fight a guy. you probably have a long term best friend you REALLY love. if youâre not dating now, itâs because youâve done that and decided it was weird, or youâre already married. nice undercut. i imagine you have positive feelings about tattoo chokers or wear a statement jacket (this is, to say, a jacket YOU consider YOUR statement jacket)
tony: please put down the coffee. you either have impressive photoshop skills & a singular determination see this franchise to its demise, or have jumped ship but hold a lingering bitter urge to defend tony stark to the death. you aggressively cut the shirts and collars off all your t-shirts. i am TERRIFIED of you
natasha: you dislike marvel & gave up after aggressively pirating every black widow comic only to discover theyâre all misogyny-ridden. youâre majoring in english. your blog consists entirely of original posts where you joke around with your extensive list of long distance long term friends, & poetry. your title & description are probably ominous quotes
hawkeye: you suggest everyone reads matt fractionâs hawkeye. if you have moved past coffee, this is temporary or because you now take caffeine pills. if you donât have a dog, this is because your friendâs dog now considers you its primary caretaker. bad at responding to texts. you cut & dye your own hair. your pajama pants are a statement piece
banner: superhero movies tire you. your wardrobe is a rotation of cardigans. you probably have joint issues and are prone to greying at nineteen. your friends keep dragging you to these movies even though you all know youâll just be disappointed. you probably like cats. you are undoubtedly gay
loki: you are either gay or unfortunate
Thor and Loki are just two rich kids from outer space and we shouldnât really give a sh*t about what their problems are.
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- Thor and his magic patu: notes on a very MÄori Marvel movie
wayne enterprises almost certainly has clothing as one of their retail subsidiaries and i like to imagine it getting really profitable just because bruce spends so much time listening to models bitch at parties. all of their product lines have names like âIt Has Real Pocketsâ and âNot See-Throughâ and âFull-Length Sleevesâ and âSecret Elastic Waistâ. the marketing department is like âokay obviously these are all working titlesâ and bruce is like âno. leave it. that is what itâs called.â and they try to talk him out of it but he owns a helicopter and you canât argue with a man who owns a helicopter. they sell so fast. the women of gotham are well-dressed and comfortable and always have somewhere to keep their phones.
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#original#the problems they are solving get more obscure as time goes on#jeans forgiving enough that you can kick someone in the face#reinforced thighs to account for friction#boyfriend jeans renamed comfy jeans#Wonât Show Your Bra#More Than One Size#it starts as a whim he just emails whoever is in charge of that department like#âfor the love of god just give them some fucking pocketsâ#if anyone appreciates the importance of pockets itâs batman#look at his belt#being without pockets is like his nightmare#if he has to help one more person figure out where in his enormous fucking mansion they left their fucking clutch#that they only brought because they didnât have any goddamn pockets#heâs not going to be mad but heâll be disappointed#wayne enterprises with bruce at the head sees a huge increase in profits and sometimes it is for the weirdest fucking reasons#am i the only one who wishes everything had an elastic waist#but secretly so i can still look classy
Bruce Wayne: A Force for Womenâs Right to Pockets
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Steve Rogers and Mental Illness
So, many people discuss Tony Starkâs mental health, and they usually go along the lines of âTony has a debilitating mental illness! He has PTSD and anxiety!â And later use to it excuse any bad things heâs done. And yes, Tony has mental illnesses thatâs true but likeâŠhave we ever talked about Steve?
He obviously has PTSD (and most likely depression and anxiety) as a result of serving in freaking WWII. Watching friends (Bucky and Dr. Erskine) and fellow soldiers get killed, and being exposed to all other horrors of war, is bound to leave mental scars. Not only is he a veteran, but a man out of time. When Steve put that plane in the water, he was fully expecting death but instead woke up to a new century, where everyone he knew and loved was either dead or, in the case of Peggy, barley clinging to life and his memory. Seeing his old love, once full of life, in such a state likely made his depression worsen.
His PTSD is explicitly shown in The Avengers (the flashback scene in the gym where he is remembering the war, Peggy, and the plane crash) and Age of Ultron (his worst fear literally being not being able to live without war) and more subtly over the course of the Captain America trilogy. This isnât even mentioning all of the trust and abandonment issues he likely has after being manipulated by S.H.I.E.L.D. and Tony (âyou donât deserve that shield!â) As well as finding out his best friend is alive and has been brainwashed to be a Nazi assassin.
Steve also displays a lot of suicidal tendencies, even before the war. He gets into fights with bigger, meaner bullies constantly and recklessly puts his life in unnecessary danger. Bucky even comments on this, âItâs almost like you like getting punched.â Later, in the barracks, Steveâs first instinct is to jump on a grenade to protect the other soldiers, instead of finding a solution that doesnât endanger his life. These tendencies come from his (albeit stubborn) desire to do the right thing no matter what, protect people and show that he, skinny, sick, weak and âuselessâ in the eyes of 1940âs America, is good and that his life means something.
âBucky, come on! There are men laying down their lives. I got no right to do any less than them. Thatâs what you donât understand. This isnât about me.â âRight. Cause you got nothing to prove.â
âI know Iâm asking a lot. But the price of freedom is high. It always has been. And itâs a price Iâm willing to pay. And if Iâm the only one, then so be it. But Iâm willing to bet Iâm not.â
âIâve got no plans tomorrow night.â
âYouâre not the guy to make the sacrifice play, to lay down on a wire and let the other guy crawl over you.â
In his quest to stop bullies, protect the little guy and stand up for whatâs right, he equates being a hero with sacrifice, the ultimate sacrifice being his own life for the greater good. Steve didnât feel like he was good enough then, and he doesnât feel like heâs good enough now. The only way to proven to himself that he is enough is to sacrifice himself for a cause, which leads to reckless behavior and a disregard for his own safety in favor of worrying about others.
(He obviously has a lot of unrealized and unresolved problems, but unlike Tony he uses healthy coping mechanisms (exercise, talking it out, making new friends with similar problems) to deal with his mental illness instead of hurting the people closest to him.)
Steve Rogers has mental illnesses that should not be forgotten about. Remember why he fights, what he fights for and what he has to overcome to fight at all.
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ten kinds of marvel fans
type 1: rabid tony stans (and all tony ships)
type 2: stucky stans
type 3: sambucky / samsteve / samstevebucky fans
type 4: thor stans
type 5: the tired viewer, just wants it all to end
type 6: netflix mcu fans, usually adults
type 7: strictly aos, agent carter and / or inhuman fans. doesnât know the mcu in films
type 8: fans of the ladies only
type 9: xmen stans
type 10: casual viewer who most likely isnât reading this because they donât care about marvel
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