ah shit, here we go again

koda / pro fiction + kink + fujoshi and fudanshi / 18+ / male

[pewishforships]

Might as well make a pinned post. Could change occasionally.

* Obviously, terfs/radfems, antis/fanpol, maps/pedophiles, exclusionists, nazis, communists, zoophiles, and supporters of any of those (as well as aligning with their ideologies) are NOT AT ALL welcomed here.

* Read the blog description, you have your information about me. I don’t give a fuck about what happened to you or what your triggers are or who and what you are just so you can explain why I should be dead in a ditch or why I’m bad as a human being because of my fictional tastes.

* Proshipper or anti, I catch you harassing/endangering people for whatever reason, your ass is blocked and my respect gone. Too much shit has been going on to care about people commenting on my posts with the “ew delete your blog”s and the “please use critical thinking/improve as a person/etc”s and the “lol ur a pedophile”s. Consider yourself ignored and/or mocked if you do so.

* "Edgy” and dark jokes will be present at times. I don’t really have a filter so I’ll be saying retard, psycho, crazy, etc for shit. If you’re here throwing out racial slurs/tolerating those who do for people you don’t like (including towards white people), don’t even bother bitching and moaning about it.

* Act like an idiot, I’ll treat you like one. Act like a civilized individual, I’ll treat you like one.

* I don’t tag except for sexual images and rpf. Either unfollow or block me if you don’t like the content being discussed or shown.

* At this point, I’m not wanting to label myself as “proship” due to the increasingly hivemind-like behavior that’s similar with antis. To simply put, I’m pro-fiction, or just some guy that has fucked up tastes in fiction and have a loathing for people harassing others for whatever reason.

Note: I’ll continue to use “proship” for posts; just don’t expect me to instantly take your side in whatever drama of the week because you have that or “anti-anti” in your description.

* I’d advise for minors to NOT follow this blog or attempt to interact with me. If that alone bothers you, oh well.

* Do NOT send anything relating to politics or religion. That’s a whole other ballpark that’s for someone who actually gives a shit about either. Same with paraphilias and identity politics.

* “Do you hate neopro-” Read this, and fuck off with this shit.

[pewishforships]

qualitygarbage​:

this specific anti argument makes the least sense to me. Isn’t the crux of pedophilia the fact that the subject is underage? so how does removing that factor make it a “pedophilic ship” like??? I feel like if someone were to do that, it would be because they enjoy all aspects of the ship dynamic, but agegap just isn’t their thing. unfortunately, most of the time, it’s done as a means of self protection.

also, if we follow the logic that fictional character are actual people: people get older. they just do. it’s imminent. so having a fic set in the future means they are no longer a child. the same way that OP won’t be a child a few years from now. if somebody they met in middle school tried to make out with them in college, is that also pedophilia??

it’s so funny to me like op just HAD to realize this made no sense as they were typing it. “a sign that you shouldn’t be shipping it” LMAO. if you think about shipping it, ship it. it’s so much easier and has a total of zero (0) negative consequences. it’s way less fun to be an anti and have fake friends waiting for you to slip up and call you out. just have fun. it’s easier.

anyway. antis:

#kei talking#sorry for adding to your post#this just boggles my mind so much#it is the MOST bootlicker clause in the anti creed imo#cw discourse 

No, you’re more than welcome to comment! Yes, this just absolutely confused the absolute hell out of me because:

“…personally, I find it pretty gross to age up a character for your ship that’s a kid in canon JUST so your ship wouldn’t be pedophilic”

Is….

Isn’t that what these bastards want?? For no one to do age gap ships or adult/minor ships because it’s, in their words, “predatory” and “pedophilic”?? So it can be the most wholesome and pristine ship that nearly every anti seemingly wants??

It also goes with your second point: since these braindead fuckers apply fiction with real life, it STILL wouldn’t make sense for them to say this. It’s not even fucking debatable: because HUMAN BEINGS FUCKING AGE. Every organic, living being on this goddamn earth age. We as humans fucking age from child to teenager to adult - how would that be PEDOPHILIA if two individuals, who had met each other at some point as teenagers or younger, were to meet and date in the far future as adults???

Is it because they met each other when they were younger as children or teenagers in school??? If so, then does that mean they are not allowed whatsoever to be romantically and/or sexually intimate as, once again since I apparently wouldn’t make myself clear to these shitheads, TWO CONSENTING ADULTS IN THE INEVITABLE FUTURE??? ALL BECAUSE THEY DECIDE TO WAIT UNTIL THEY ARE OLDER????

It’s just… I don’t know, this is just so utterly baffling and easily the most infuriating argument to witness cause the moment they apply it to real life, it’s immediately shot down. There’s just no way to continue with the argument without sounding like a batshit crazy asshole who can’t simply say, “I don’t like age gaps themes and ships in fiction”, and they refuse to listen to reason because they enjoy going on this power trip and the amount of attention they receive.

[sodapopmadness77]

There needs to be more proship/fic hlvrai fans

too many annoying dummy teenagers with moral superiority complexes in the fandom for my liking. 8(

[just-antithings]

https://youtube.com/shorts/lkTe2ECv-lE?si=o5mGshl89vMipwHO

"FIXING PROSHIPPER ART"

AND IT'S FUCKING WILLIAM & ELIZABETH AGAIN DOING NORMAL FATHER-DAUGHTER STUFFS

HELL IT'S FROM THE SAME ARTIST THAT ANTIS KEEP HAVING PROBLEMS WITH

Ugh

[lualewis]

Anon is right, these are all just normal scenes of normal life

Even outside of that though, this person just actively made all of the art worse.

Like, look at this:

It looks like either a tut styled skirt or she's jumping and it's bouncing. There's texture and movement, even with a "simple" style.

To:

Longer, flat, no movement.

Fucking hate the format of shorts, but bear with me:

To:

Get off. Children sit in parents laps. And siblings. And sometimes just adults that they know. Parents can be happy when that happens.

Abs why change the heart?

[pro-anomalocaris]

Antis: "We're normal people." Also Antis: "Being happy your child is interacting with you is gross and problematic and bad. If your child has any physical contact with you and you don't get annoyed by it, that's 'proship' and bad."

This is giving me flashbacks to antis saying any gifs of Tony Stark interacting with his daughter should be tagged as incest.

I am being dead serious when I say this: if the sight of a parent not being disgusted when they interact with a child makes you think the parent is into the kid, please talk to someone and get help. Firstly, you shouldn't be thinking anyone is into the kid - the sight of a child shouldn't make you think of that, that's already alarming - but secondly, you shouldn't automatically assume dads are into their daughters if they interact with them. After decades of society telling men it's unmanly to do things with their daughters, we are, finally, making some progress on that front. Your first thought should be, "aw, cute, an involved dad!", not, "child? sex! adult with child? sex! sex!"

If your anxiety insists that no, that's what's going on, ask yourself: is there another reason for an adult to be happy their child is present? For instance, could they possibly love their child, without there being any sexual or romantic connotation to that? Is it possible perhaps that a parent enjoys the presence of their kid the same way you, as a kid, enjoyed the presence of an adult? Even if you as a child had no trusted adults, can you honestly not think of any examples of kids who liked their parents and who didn't mind hugging them or interacting with them?

And the weird slutshaming of the little girl for wearing a frilly tutu and the need to make it longer is just creepy. I'm sorry, I know people online use 'get some help' as a funny haha meme but I genuinely think that if you see a kid in something knee-length and you find something sexual or inappropriate in that, you need to talk to someone. Doesn't even have to be a mental health professional, just, talk to literally anyone. Mention to a friend or parent or trusted party that you have sexual anxieties about kids wearing anything knee length or shorter. Talk to them about the distress it's causing you. Thoughts like that are a sign of anxiety or possibly POCD but either way are treatable problems.

Because, to be clear? I say this as the kinkiest person I know, who can imagine a lot of things as sexual: a child is not inherently sexual, regardless of their outfit. A parent smiling at the sight of their child is not inherently sexual. A parent and child interacting is not inherently sexual.

This isn't normal. This isn't okay. This is the result of being in an extremist conservative group that has trained you to think of sex whenever you see a child.

And if you were wondering, thinking of sex when you see kids is not normal, either.

[fandomeldersintheirthirties]

Antis advocating for emotional child abuse? Disapointed but not suprised.

[apocalypticromantic666]

I'm honestly so fucking sick of antis shrieking that "proshipping is disrespectful to CSA survivors uwu". Or worse- "proshippers are fetishizing my twauma!"

DUDE.

What is truly disrespectful is using CSA survivors as a false flag to hide behind in order to push your puritanical agenda.

CSA survivors do NOT appreciate being used as a poster child for your pro-censorship, anti-kink, Evangelical, TERFy bullshit.

To use us as a "gotcha" shield for your denouncement of 'bad-wrong' fictional ships does not frame you as an activist. It only reveals you as the gaping asshole that you are.

And as for "fetishizing your trauma"?

We don't know you. We know nothing about you other than the fact that you came into our house and started pissing and shitting yourself over properly-tagged content that we made in order to process our own trauma.

Hate to break it to you, but you are NOT the only person on the planet who has suffered. You aren't special. Get over your main character syndrome and understand that everyone processes trauma in different ways, and just because it may not be the right method for YOU, doesn't mean that it doesn't help me or other survivors.

Learn to be angry with your abuser(s) and not strangers on the internet who are trying to heal.

And might I also add that to actively try to force other survivors to stop processing their trauma just because they are doing so in ways you find personally distasteful, helps no one but their abuser(s).

[marshemillow]

Still can't believe people, mainly antis and fake neutrals have the audacity to equate proshippers asking for a safe space and telling off their bullies with what antis are doing. Most proshippers tell antis to fuck themselves, to fuck off or something among those lines, that's it.

Yep. That's an abuse tactic known as leveling. It's a false equivilance where the abuser points out trivial things the victim does or normal reactions to abuse and says, "You're no better than me."

But the truth is that reacting to abuse with anger is not even in the same BALLPARK as abusing someone in the first place. If you downplay abuse, you are an abuse apologist. That's the long and the short of it.

[peppermintquartz]

In one camp: people telling actual living human beings to kill themselves for the works they create with fictional characters

In the other camp: people reacting with anger because they're being told to kill themselves for works they create with fictional characters

Not the same thing!!!

[producedbyarca]

I think it’s really insulting that westerners talk about communism. y'all had it too good and now y'all are being spoiled little brats. let me talk to you about the women and men executed and how their bodies were thrown out of trains and the basic food being rationed so harshly that we actually started black markets for fucking sugar and oil and let me talk to you about how they used to spy on everyone, we had mikes in our homes, how they made kids rat on each other and how controlled the education was. lights went out at 7. my parents used to study by a candle. everything. was. controlled. everyone. was. oppressed.

[saintjoan]

# DESTROY TUMBLR’S UNAPOLOGETIC ROMANTICISING OF COMMUNISM 2K15 TBH

[alchemistique]

#the fastest way to make me lose all respect for you is if you’re one of the tumblr shitbabies who romanticizes communism #my grandfather was the only member of his family who survived the russian revolution #he hid in the family crypt and had to listen to the sounds of the bolsheviks slaughtering his whole family #women and children too #all shot execution style because they owned a tiny farm in what is now ukraine #the members of his extended family were all sent to gulags and we only know they were even there because we found records of their deaths #so don’t fucking come in here with your pop communism nonsense #not when my family has suffered under it #not when the families of millions #billions of people #have suffered for something you think is a cute and edgy way to rebel #go fuck yourselves honestly you ignorant pieces of shit #i consider myself a socialist but there is a huge fucking difference between socialist policies as implemented today in sweden etc. #and the utter living horror that was life under communism #stay classy tumblr 

[emeraldboreas-deactivated201809]

A good friend of mine has some stories, man. Her family fled the USSR with nothing but the clothes on their backs.

[saint-ambrosef]

My grandfather’s family had to flee communism twice. The first was the Bolshevik revolution in Russia, where they were kicked out of their home and country because they were “White Russians” (a wealthy class, not even nobility). They would have been killed had they stayed.

They fled to Italy. Not too long later, they were kicked out of there too by the rise of Italian Communism. “Italy is only for Italians,” they said. And so they fled again. Eventually they settled in Louisiana.

My grandmother’s family were Jewish Russians. They fled the USSR because the oppressive regime was destroying their life, their family. My great-grandfather arrived in New York harbor at age seven, with his father, waiting for the rest of their family to come over so they could start fresh.

I think OP put it best: “y'all had it too good and now y'all are being spoiled little brats.” None of these neo-commies actually understand the horrors that the implementation of communism brings because they’ve never been personally affected by it, because they’re ideologists who never consider the outcome of the execution. They want a utopia.

They’re sheltered.

[sunder-the-gold]

They live in the greatest nations that Earth has ever seen, live lives wealthier than all of the kings of old, and they feel oppressed because the public and private education program has taught them to hate their own countries and long for a utopia that no one can prove is possible.

[chordata7]

People really will say communism isnt the solely ussr. yet idk man would you say an ideology that requires hyper utilitarianism that makes bio essentialist rhetoric a viable option isnt just another form of another political ideology. Communism requires bigotry to be acceptable and an oppressor to murder in order to exist. Aka without a fight the power slogan communism is just another way of making scape goats to kill causr you hate an incompetent goverment.

Ie the orphanages and mental institutiona in my home country was a founded by the ussr because they wanted to kill off or fix people who couldnt work. Except it ended up being a majority romani population. A romani population who got treated just as shittily even after hitler happened. The commie bastards hated an entire ethnic group and made state sanctioned murder of them acceptable. Guess what i am.

I was born after the communist president and his wife got executed on live television. Thanks to him and his shitty parties programs i still wouldnt have had an opportunity to thrive because of my ethnicity and disability. Being adopted outta a post soviet country was the best thing to happen me.

Dont you dare defend an ideology thats just fascism but with a different economic model.

[takashi0]

#if you followed me back in 2014-16 i was a die hard tankie until i learned yknow the genocides#it wasnt until i learned about the purges of nit to just the incompetent romanovs but innocent civilians and racial targeting#yknow wht does that sound familiar#people have the audacity to say never again yet brush off the soviet unions attpts at genocide#the bastards only got away with it cause they made it seem like class warfare instead of its true intentions racial purity#also stalin only won against hitler in the winter cause he stopped trade in the area killing a lot of civilians including soldiers#but sure just keep saying such an ideology didnt actually found some of the worst atrocities in human history

[theresistance2]

Ahem:

Racism and anti-semitism has always been an element of Marxism from the very beginning. The reason Stalin starved millions of Ukrainians to begin with was because he thought they weren’t “proletarian” enough.

In fact, here’s a fun practice; Check out any of Marx and Engels’ drivel and replace any mention of “bourgeoisie” and “proletariat” with “Jew” and “Aryan” respectively. Things will start feeling a little close to home very fucking quick.

[gholateg]

Ya’ll didn’t know tankies were antisemitic?

This is just wild to me.

[takashi0]

I did, tumblr users typically don’t.

[ieatcrocs-deactivated20230506]

just saw spyscout in tf2 tag.

PROSHIPPERS GO FUCK YOURSELF. MAIN TAGS WILL NEVER BE YOUR SAFE SPACE. YOURE NOT ALLOWED IN THE COMMUNITY AT ALL.

[the-proship-hellhole]

We stay in whatever tags we want to stay in. You don't gatekeep who goes in and out of tags like you're some kind of body guard. BLOCK WHAT YOU DON'T WANNA SEE, AND STOP WHINING FFS.

Have a wonderful day, and just remember to stay salty if you're like this. :)

[pewishforships]

Hey OP, thanks for making me ship spyscout now!

[archive-ofa-better-time]

btw if anyone has memes or funny reaction images hand em over

[karkalicious769]

*rubs hands together* Pardon the mobile image limit, I have literally hundreds of these on hand all the time, but I'll just leave a few reblogs with my favorites if you don't mind.

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[archive-ofa-better-time]

oh my god /pos

[karkalicious769]

Don't need to tell me twice!!

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[antishipping-deactivated2024012]

quickest way to spot a proship bait acc imo:

calls problematic ships "proships" or "illegal ships"

tries to be as cringey as possible (they usually use neopronouns, especially emojipronouns, and have typing quirks)

uses outdated flags

can't even get the rainbow meat emoji combo the correct way around

c3ns0rs w0rdz

make threats, harasses people online, tells antis to kill themselves, etc. (the only accounts that do this are the ones that only exist to make proshippers look like bad people)

tries to support as much "problematic" things as possible, including those that aren't limited to fiction (same as above)

usually in the danganronpa and/or genshin impact fandom (or at least pretends to be) and makes edits or headcanons for the problematic ships in those fandoms

tries to make triggering topics out to be "cute >w<" or "kawaii 🥺" thing

their account is no more than like a week old

[antishipping-deactivated2024012]

some examples of proship bait bios so people have an idea as to what i'm talking about

(also, just so we're clear, i don't personally believe things like neopronouns, typing quirks, emoji combos, etc. are necessarily "cringe", but it's just a case where a lot of proship bait accounts try to be cringe, and will therefore do or say what other people or themselves would consider to be "cringey".)

[pewishforships]

@cxlesstial

I am.

[just-antishipper-things]

Aging up fictional characters for college, marriage, pregnancy, parenthood, and even violent torture scenes is fine, but I draw the line at aging up fictional characters for sex purposes, because as we all know, consensual sex is immoral and unnatural and has no place in real life or fiction.

[itstheelvenjedi]

This is extra funny if you pay attention to the pregnancy/parenthood part of this list because it's like going "well yes, we want the RESULT of the sex but if you wanna write about how we GOT to the pregante and the babies then you're a demented sex pervert"

Cause that tooootally makes sense /s lol

[just-antishipper-things]

^^^

[asterosian]

Reblog to correct anyone claiming that proship means you ship minors with adults or that you support real life abuse

Oh, you want to save this image to show others later? Please do! I specifically took this screenshot hoping people would do just that

[investingestincest]

Blatantly hating something you don’t know is such a stupid mindset, but refusing to learn it is even stupider.

So many antis are willing to harrass, suibait or straight up traumatize proshippers under the assumption that they're fighting against "icky pedos" and helping the world getting rid of them, and they're so eager to do it too, but the moment you try to give them the actual definition, you're instantly blocked. It's like they become blind all of a sudden. You can explain it to them a hundred times and the ONLY answer you'll receive is, without fail, "don't care. you still sexualize children/support incest". It's so tiring, and almost maddening in a way.

That's kinda what demotivated me out of interacting with SO many fandoms or joining them because I wasn't willing to face this amount of toxicity again. It came to a point where the daily discourses weighted me down so much that I almost stopped shipping all together.

I've already distanced myself out of that toxicity and have a much clearer mind than before, but I pretty much stopped trying to reason with antis altogether. Like, as soon as I see an anti, I immediately give up without even trying to speak or anything, I just block them. I know that this is what you're supposed to do and I know that I'm not helping much when it comes to helping get rid of this stupid mindset, but I'm not willing to continue sitting by to listen to the same answer, playing like a broken record, over and over anymore.

[clockworkspider]

I mean I think people should curate their own fandom experience and whatnot and it's perfectly fair to just avoid things one is uncomfortable with...

That being said. From personal experience? Immunizing myself to all my discomforts by browsing through pixiv and kink memes with raised eyebrows while searching for things I am interested in back when tagging was non-existent has really made my fandom experience much more pleasant nowadays.

I have preferences, for sure. But I have no fear. I have no cringe. The filthiest, grossest fanwork holds no powers over me. I am a god.

Like honestly dl;dr and block on sight is respectable and all but I genuinely think everyone could just benefit from purposefully exposing yourself to your nOTP and non-triggering squicks sometimes? (And obviously don't go bother the creators for it.) If only so that it makes it easier/safer to search for content you like without living in fear of accidentally glimpsing something you hate and having that ruin your day.

[clockworkspider]

Training oneself to be comfortable with mild discomfort is a highly under-rated skill in this day and age

[toxicshipsincorporated]

I think its interesting that "desensitized" is a dirty word now. Like...when I did my therapy, being desensitized was the GOAL. It was the fucking dream.

But also, desensitization essentially gives you the agency to say, "okay so that felt bad, now I can either put it away, really explore and understand what that discomfort is trying to tell me, or discard it." Idk...some of yall are so fucking distressed all the time and you call it "being normal" or "being a decent human being" but...it isn't normal to be distressed all the time. It isn't decent to be distressed all the time. And like...I have disords and chemical shit going on in my brain but if you don't have all that....I think you need to look at your distress and ask why it is actually enduring and who benefits from you being distressed (lessons from a pre-bush era american).

[septmilleneurones]

Also like...antis have always cherry picked who is allowed to be distressed and who isn’t. Bullying causes a horrific number of minors to die from suicide, but antis don’t seem too bothered about whether bullied people (and maybe survivors of other types of abuse?) find it distressing or even triggering to see harassment and suicide baiting being done to actual real life people.

[proship-idiot]

just saw a "proshippers dni" on a blog where majority of the posts are about problematic yandere relationships. oh and also kidnapping and torture with said problematic yandere relationships. like- huh?

[blackheart-biohazards]

Remember, according to facops, enjoying problematic fiction means you desire to do those problematic things in real life.

But ONLY if it's sex with underage people or relatives.

Nothing else in fiction effects anybody. Just those two things.

Liking violence in fiction totally doesn't mean you like violence irl, but the second you read a shipcest fic you become incestuous.

[marshemillow]

Look, you do not get to clop over here on your motherfucking high horse to cry "normalization" and "romanticization" when you guys normalized telling real people to kill themselves over fiction. Fandom is a fucking dead hobby now bc nobody wants to post art into a toxic environment of bullying regardless of their personal tastes in fiction.

I cannot believe we have such a culture on the internet today of purity police who are so entitled that they think the entire world should cater to them instead of just blocking the tags and being done with it. You choose to destroy this space that people made for themselves for fun, poisoning the water until all the fucking fish died.

Stop elevating fake abuse over real abuse victims. Stop assuming people get off to everything they write. Stop trying to justify hurting real people just to keep up some warped image of purity taken from literal fundamentalist evangelicalism.

Don't act like you're "anti-pedophilia" or "anti-abuse" when what you really are is pro-virtue-signaling. Nothing more.