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@pluraltitty
it/its, 20s, nonbinary tme, mixed (white passing), plural
learning transfeminist and ML
i very rarely tag things. please curate your own space and use your word filter.
since tumblr has a tendency of making you unfollow people, i would really prefer if you didn't softblock me; and instead just hardblocked so i know not to interact with you.
i think transfems should be allowed to be good at sports.
sometimes a trans woman wins against a cis woman. sometimes a cis woman wins against another cis woman too. yet only one of them is allowed to win without facing consequences.
it's not enough to support transfems in sports if your support hinges on us being bad at them.
Odysseus fucking name dropping the Bronze Age is like Leonardo De Vinci writing in his journal "wow what a beautiful day here in the Italian Renaissance. I sure am pleased to be experiencing The High Renaissance period"
It's just so fucking stupid.
Like.
⭐💫 #miku
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+ What a Day +
If you like spam me I am literally killing you on the mouth I love you so much
With tongue.
i think fat girls should walk around in crop tops booty shorts buzzcuts dyed hair piercings no bra killing and maiming all who stand in their way with weapons before sitting down for some yummy ice cream and so forth. it's the only way.
saw someone I follow accuse you of being intersexist, so I read through several pages of your blog and I have to ask,,,,,,, where?? I've seen many of the same posts from you that I see from the intersex people I know, AND gained a better understanding of why some of the arguments I've seen going around recently about things being intersexist are actually transmisogynistic. wild. anyway sorry for any nonsense you've been going through because of people like this.
its because i got into the "afab trans woman" argument amd stated that basically intersex women who were afab dont need the phrase "trans woman" and that its a term that was created by TERFs to attack the concept of transfemininity and do exactly this kind of bullshit (make trans women defend our identity from well-meaning tmes)
i believe that intersex people deserve respect and the ability to determine both their identity and have full informed control over their body; currently, intersex children and newborns and even adults are coerced and forced into medication and surgery in order to make them fit an artificial sex binary.
the ways intersexuality manifest are often similar to the ways trans bodies are shaped (someone with breasts and a penis, someone with a developed beard and a vagina, etc) and reducing the stigma for one community helps the other.
there's hostility between the two communities, though. some trans people, especially in recent history, are ignorant about intersex issues. this can manifest in something as harmless as calling a bilaterally gynandromorphic animal "nonbinary" when it's an intersex condition, or as harmful as reifying the idea of a natural sex binary, just one separate from gender. this is bad and i'd like to help educate and correct that.
there's also fault in inrersex communities, however. this whole discourse has had consistant response from intersex trans women, women who were amab but have a physiology divergant from the idea of manhood, and transitioned away from that assigned manhood. i've seen them talk about being ignored and erased in intersex communities, and that the people leading this discussion are transphobic.
and indeed, a handful of thought leaders for the intersex community here on tumblr have made themselves the enemy of transfeminist theory, taking potshots at terms like "transmisogyny affected" and inciting harassment campaigns against trans women- which is prpbably where you got told i'm an intersexist bioessentialist asshole!
i hope this convinces you to be critical of these accusations levied against trans women, and i hope that both of us will be able to learn about each others' issues and help each other, without this incredible hostility.
"we're all faggots in the eyes of the state" okay but the state recognises different category of "faggot" where one is "idiot womanchildren with delusions of grandeur" and another is "subhuman predators that must be excised from society posthaste" like neither are a great way to treat another human being but can we pleeeeeeease acknowledge the difference here
"stop queer infighting we're all-" okay so is this actually queer infighting or did a trans woman describe her lived experience in a way you didn't like
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(no beers in) So how do you perceive me in the privacy of your thoughts
On the subject of endogenic plurality, I find it really horrific the way the anti-endo movement has reared its head. It's like these people figured out that being anti self-dx was being too widely recognized as the cruel ideology it is, so they needed to find something a bit more subtly cruel.
"You can't be plural without trauma" There is no such thing as a non-traumatized person. We live in a society built to torment and traumatize people, starting with the fact that you have to spend the first [x] amount of years in your life being legally owned by another human being. So what you really have to be saying to have this statement make any sort of (even twisted) sense is "you can't be plural if you're not traumatized enough." How do you decide who is? If you don't decide, who does?
Does the person themself decide? If they do, how can you be sure that they'll recognize their experiences as traumatic? And how are you going to treat them if they don't? For the longest time I hadn't recognized what I went through as being traumatic. I thought it was just a fact of life, an unfair fact but a fact nonetheless. Would you have told me that I can't be plural if I had expressed that to you back then?
Does a diagnosis decide? What about the people who've been abused at the hands of the psych industry? What about the marginalized groups who are known to have their struggles undermined and dismissed by the psych industry? What about the people who've never been able to access those resources? What about the kids who are classified as too young to receive a medical diagnosis? Should they be gatekept from plurality because they didn't get the right piece of paper?
Where is the line drawn between people who are traumatized enough to be plural, and the people who aren't? Is there qualifications for how badly you have to be abused before you're allowed to describe yourself as plural?
Even if you did come up with an answer to all of these questions, how do you plan to enforce this boundary? Are you going to go around asking every plural person you meet to describe their traumatic experiences to you so you can make sure they're on the right side of the line you drew? Or are you just going to leave it be because you don't actually care? At that point, why even try to draw the line other than to be cruel to other people?
Because that's the point.
You're just cruel.
anti-endos are across the board some of the most ridiculously ableist and mean-spirited people i've seen on tumblr. it's just malice hidden under a quirky "discourse" label, and you're completely correct that these were anti-selfdiagnosis people that got shunned too hard on tumblr and had to put on a fresh coat of paint to make it seem like they're not doing the exact shame shit. when your belief hinges on telling people that they're not traumatized enough, that they weren't abused enough, that they didn't suffer enough for your standards, you're just trying to gatekeep the same resources and spaces from a slightly different (and often overlapping) angle.
like one argument i could see these ableist assholes using against your post is that just because someone is traumatized doesn't mean that their system originated from trauma. it doesn't even fucking matter!! there's no tangible difference between a "traumagenic" system and an "endogenic" system!! even if this was a valid argument this is so clearly not what they mean when they're arguing about endo systems. their entire argument is "you have to have trauma to be a system," and they only fall back on that excuse when somebody points out how awful that statement is when you look into it beyond a surface level. it's backtracking because they're totally aware they look like shitty people to anyone with even a half-baked understanding of how fucked the world is.
and of course, anti-endo rhetoric primarily targets the most vulnerable plural people who are much more likely to have their traumas dismissed (as you mentioned) and view themselves as non-traumatized/non-traumagenic. namely racialized, tma, and imperiph systems. and instead of understanding the things that these systems have been put through, anti-endos choose the path of harassing them. or if they don't upfront harass them, they'll still be shutting out the most vulnerable plural people from so many plural spaces (and they have the audacity to play the moral high ground like "well i don't actually harass or fakeclaim them i just make it far more difficult for them to find safe spaces"). this is why you'll see some of the largest online plural communities being so heavily dominated by white tme westerners (even for tumblr standards :/)
you need to stop being anti-endo and start being anti-psych (for realsies not just for show. because some of you think you're anti-psych DESPITE doing medical gatekeeping and it's fucking sickening.)
to be honest i also don't believe traumagenic/endogenic labels should exist in the first place, i think it's just more harmful labeling that exists to separate who's suffered enough and who hasn't. but that's to be rambled about another day-
diversity win! this lesbian hates women
More trans infighting tbh
Don't like that? Start being normal about transfems then
Transfems are the ones expected to make themselves smaller for the comfort of other trans people. We're not allowed to speak. We're not allowed to stand. We're not allowed to take up space. If we do then we are just "troublemakers," and we'll be harassed until we isolate ourselves from society and never have community. They reduce us to labels like "transradfem" because it's an easy way to frame us as troublemakers while also framing us as the cause of our own oppression.
We are not a part of the solidarity that TME trans people envision because they are just as eager to build the tranny killing machine as any cis person. We are an obstacle to their "solidarity," not a part of it.
We have no brothers.
"They reduce us to labels like transradfem :("
Oh noooo that sucks!
Almost as much as it would suck to be reduced to stereotype by your own community and still somehow treated with the same disrespect by those people as before you transitioned.
Since you want to group us in with cis people and transphobes, I find it pretty fucking stupid that you're whining about this. Especially with "birthday boys", "scissor tits" and shit like that still being a main part of your propaganda.
I wish you could see from a normal persons perspective how god damn stupid you sound. "All trans people who aren't fem are evil and they want us all dead!" Real life trans people called, they've never fucking met you.
Maybe you COULD talk about how you've been silenced and belittled. If your whole online personality wasn't doing the same shit to a community that has been marginalized for their entire fucking lives, regardless of race, culture etc.
You act like they all do something wrong by just existing. When they create a term for the specific type of oppression they face, you claim it's not even real and create insults to harass those who share their grief.
You're a transphobic piece of shit. You are the cause of the infighting.
Notice how I never claimed every single trans woman or fem does this? That's because I have fucking sense, and I am not interested in further hurting my own community, like you seem to be.
It's disgusting. Even if you don't see other trans people as your community (Which would be ignoring historical facts and also show you lack common sense, but it's kinda too late there), it's disgusting shit to say.
I realize you really wanna feel special, but blaming every other trans person for trans misogyny is fucking stupid. You're not helping, you're hateful.
We have sisters. At least I do. Because I know the value of my fucking community. I understand history and the state of the fucking world I live in.
And I'm not an entitled sack of shit
lol
I want you all to notice the language that this person uses here in order to position themself as an intelligent man/masc dealing with an unintelligent, unruly Black trans woman. I'll highlight these more as I break down this response, but also notice that they're the one going after me, whilst claiming that I'm the one trying to hurt people. Notice that they're talking about my "entire online personality" being hatred, meanwhile they're the one who had to make a whole separate account to harass transfems. This is classic conservative ideology, something that these people are heavily dependent on whilst claiming they are not.
Almost as much as it would suck to be reduced to stereotype by your own community and still somehow treated with the same disrespect by those people as before you transitioned.
Since you want to group us in with cis people and transphobes, I find it pretty fucking stupid that you're whining about this. Especially with "birthday boys", "scissor tits" and shit like that still being a main part of your propaganda.
This person is positioning themself as being oppressed by transfems, and blaming us for the societal forces that make life difficult for transmascs prior to transition. Ironic for someone who complains about being compared to cis people. The language you use also continues to highlight your rancid misogyny, in particular the use of the word "whining" when speaking about a Black trans women discussing transmisogyny.
"Birthday boy" was a term specifically coined to highlight the way that trans men will antagonize, belittle, and harass trans women until they snap back, and then act like they're just a smol bean victim that didn't do anything wrong. Interesting that you want to treat it as an insult rather than highlighting a pattern of behavior from transmisogynists. Hit dogs holler, eh?
"Scissortits"/"zippertits" has never been used by a transfeminist literally ever. It was used by a TERF on Twitter once and because transmisogynistic transmascs are practically best friends with TERFs, they turned and blamed it on trans women instead.
I wish you could see from a normal persons perspective how god damn stupid you sound. "All trans people who aren't fem are evil and they want us all dead!" Real life trans people called, they've never fucking met you.
So, fun fact. I live in a third world country where being trans is highly frowned upon in a way that you couldn't even imagine, and there is no legal, financial, or medical support for transitioning. It's not even a possibility within the country. If we want to physically transition, we have to do DIY HRT or go to another country to receive gender affirming surgeries (extremely expensive).
This doesn't mean I've never met another trans person in real life, because I have. But we don't get to just form communities and meetups like you do because it is actively fucking dangerous for us to do so. And furthermore, it is because I have met real life trans people who live in the same conditions I do that I have recognized the disproportionate difference in how many transmascs there are + how they're treated vs. how many transfems there are + how they're treated.
You are nothing but a yankee shitstain and a blight on "real life trans people" who don't have access to the same resources you do. Your idea of a "normal person's perspective" is just xenophobia.
Maybe you COULD talk about how you've been silenced and belittled. If your whole online personality wasn't doing the same shit to a community that has been marginalized for their entire fucking lives, regardless of race, culture etc.
Notice the framing here. Firstly, the "maybe you COULD," as if women need a man's permission to talk about misogyny. I've already covered the "online personality" thing. "Wasn't doing the same shit to a community that has been marginalized for their whole lives," making it clear that they do not believe transfems have also been marginalized for their whole lives.
You act like they all do something wrong by just existing. When they create a term for the specific type of oppression they face, you claim it's not even real and create insults to harass those who share their grief.
Transandrophobia isn't real because there is no form of oppression that is specific to transmascs. There is no "intersection" between transphobia and misandry because the latter isn't real. Misandry is not real in any way shape or form. It is not a form of systemic oppression, it never has been.
Misogyny is a real axis of oppression, which is why terms like transmisogyny (transphobia/misogyny intersection), misogynoir (antiblackness/misogyny intersection), and lesbophobia (homophobia/misogyny intersection) exist.
Transmascs coined "transandrophobia" not to describe an existing form of intersectional oppression, but to have something "just for them 🥺". That is why transandrophobia is not a real thing and never will be. What transmascs experience is transphobia. And any "misogyny" they experience is due to them being gendered as a woman, which happens due to transphobia.
You're a transphobic piece of shit. You are the cause of the infighting.
It's infighting when a trans woman points out how she's oppressed by people who benefit from transmisogyny. This is why I say more "trans infighting." Because it's not actually infighting, they're discussions that need to be had.
Notice how I never claimed every single trans woman or fem does this? That's because I have fucking sense, and I am not interested in further hurting my own community, like you seem to be.
You didn't need to. We can already tell by the language you use in this post how much disdain you have for a trans woman who you don't agree with. You don't think every trans woman does this because some of us are too scared to fight back, and you want as many of us scared as possible. "I have sense" more casual misogynoir I see! Framing the Black trans woman as a hysterical bitch because she got too uppity.
It's disgusting. Even if you don't see other trans people as your community (Which would be ignoring historical facts and also show you lack common sense, but it's kinda too late there), it's disgusting shit to say.
"Ignoring historical facts" I don't even need to argue this point. Even if you're only focusing on western queer history (which you clearly are) it would show that transfems experience hostility in queer spaces even from transmascs- sometimes especially. This is just you being willfully ignorant if not deliberately altering history to benefit your arguments. Oh and yay more microaggressions with the "common sense" shit, you just really need to get across how unreasonable and unintelligent you think this Black woman is!
I realize you really wanna feel special, but blaming every other trans person for trans misogyny is fucking stupid. You're not helping, you're hateful.
"I realize you wanna feel special" coming from the crowd that coined a label making a mockery of intersectionality because they wanted to feel unique and special 🥺 I was born into a world that hates me, I think I should be allowed to hate back tbh.
We have sisters. At least I do. Because I know the value of my fucking community. I understand history and the state of the fucking world I live in.
And I'm not an entitled sack of shit
If this is how you treat your "sisters," I fear for them and sincerely hope they do not consider you a brother. Because you are a dangerous "brother" to have.
One last microaggression for the road, pretending that the Black woman and third worlder doesn't know anything about the world she lives in (the world is antiblack, transmisogynistic, and western chauvinist and this has reflected in my entire fucking life. I hope this helps). With some anti-feminist language emphasizing "entitlement" as well
lol
Fuck you.
