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Discourse // Salt Blog Call me Yurak. [he/him] oh since ppl are gonna force me to say it: Neurodivergent - PoC - Minor - Trans - Demiro Gay || Im a sheithan and lotadin buddy|| yes Lotor is the unicorn || Header by avaran-edits

[kosmolin]

The fact that the title of the music playing during Shiro/Kuron and Keith’s fight is named “I Will Never Give Up On You” speaks more words than all of Season 8’s story combinded.

[metiredlr]

[soku-ter]

So about those “leaks”…

As some of you guys have seen from my “Syeun signing my Sheith ita bag” post.. I had the amazing opportunity to meet him at Walker Stalker Con.

He was super friendly and chill and loved getting the chance to nerd out about the show. But in that moment with him, I also had the chance to talk to him about the “leaks” that had been around for only about a week at that point in time. I posted about it on Discord only a couple of minutes after talking with him, so I’ll be letting the screenshots of that day do the rest of the talking under the cut. 

[pointykeef]

We stan a King 🙇🏽‍♂️

[shirosucc]

all that stuff you did in high school means nothing 😑 and it has nothing to do with incest. U only got those scores and took ap classes and got scholars and did all those things because your asian, i’m white so that’s different, my parents never pressured me for that kind of stuff. Second, you don’t get incest because your an only child. theres so much evidence Shiro and Keith are blood, just stop. And stop being mean and talking down on us for speaking against it

i go to an ivy league college, i work at the largest investment bank in america, and for the record i didn’t get better grades than you because i’m asian and you’re white, i get better grades than you bc i’m talented and work hard and you share a singular braincell with every anti and you guys take turns using it to piss. also i have a brother and if you think i look at him the way keith looks at shiro you’re nasty as hell bye! have fun looking like a soggy loaf of bread for the rest of your life 

[sheithonearth]

Remember to block and ignore all the asshats in the sheith tag. I don’t know what set them off but they aren’t worth your words or time. Instead of talking to them make a post about how much you love sheith instead! Do exactly what they hate!

[shirosucc]

i'm an anti and i try to stay out of discourse but could you stop trying to be mean to us because you don't think teenagers getting involved in activism is valuable? what were YOU doing in high school? supporting incest?

what was i doing in high school??? gr8 question. here’s an itemized list:

maintaining a 4.5 gpa

getting a 2280 SAT and a 35 ACT, taking 15 AP classes, and scoring in the 98th percentile for all my SAT subject tests

national merit scholar, national ap scholar

president of debate, captain of science olympiad, captain of DECA, varsity dance team

placing 2nd in the state for debate, placing 6th in the nation for science olympiad, placing 4th in the state and top 30 at internationals for DECA

member of a choral group that performed at carnegie hall and disney, three time gold medalist for state piano competitions

commuting 6 hours on the weekend to intern at a non-profit in chicago

speaking in front of the chicago city council to demand increased resources for underprivileged students at chicago public schools

tutoring ESL students at chicago public schools

canvassing for local and state elections

working as a translator at illinois polls so that people who could not speak english understood what and who they were voting for

doing biological research at uchicago, a top 3 nationally ranked university

volunteering as a chinese teacher for a class of 16 kids

so to answer your question i do think teenagers getting involved in activism is valuable. that’s why i did it as a teenager. i just don’t believe that harassing people online for a fictional cartoon ship constitutes activism, nor is it the best use of your time. now go study for your damn SATs.

[mishydraws]

Soo if I told you I was able to sneak some of my old (sheith) art into the background of a Netflix show would any of you believe me? 🤔

Last year around this time someone who was working on set design for ‘Best. Worst. Weekend. Ever’ reached out to me and I ended up with a table at Beacon Cove Comic Con 😂

Keep reading

[valkyriepilot]

First David Gaider and now Mike Laidlaw and Patrick Weekes. I couldn’t make this up if I tried.

[the-magnificent-otaku-taco-chan]

Adam @ Sendak upon realizing that Shiro is alive,lost his arm,and now has PTSD for life

[pointykeef]

This is canon sheith lbr

[huntypastellance]

You should check out Arahirs most recent post about She-ra, everything seems a little yikes.

http://archive.fo/5aGII

That’s THREE snakes on the She-ra staff. I think Gingerhaze needs to take out the trash…….unless she’s into re-enacting an office version of Mean Girls.

[queenrojpag]

[gihou-resigned-deactivated20181]

might fuck around and quit tumblr and remake under the url fandomgaytrashshipper69 and become a voltron blog to interact with suspicious tumblr 30 year old shieth and pedophilic shippers that call people antis and idk fuck around and join their discords attempting to obtain their contact info and facebooks under the guise of befriending them and idk finding out their workplace and telling their bosses that becky has been convincing 11 year olds on tumblr that pedophilia in fiction is ok and get them fired and blacklisted from any further work in their fake ass art career based off drawing sexualized children idk just a thought maybe lol

[shipping-isnt-morality]

you’d stalk and ruin an innocent person’s life and career because they draw art of fictional adults.

I don’t know what to call this other than evil.

[forest-of-stories]

Which of these sounds more like the Internet predators we were warned about, guys?

“I, an adult, create art of fictional people and scenarios intended for other adults to look at”

or

“I want to befriend people under false pretenses in order to obtain their personal information and use it against them”

???

[discoursecatharsis]

Also I love the clowns in the notes who are like “op is talking about doxxing pedophiles and child groomers, why are you all making this about v*d discourse?” when… op literally says “I’m gonna become a voltron blog and interact with sheith shippers.” Op’s the one making this about Voltron. Talking about ruining people’s lives for shipping cartoon characters. Op and everyone who agrees with them needs a major reality check.

Also can y’all stop censoring Voltron as if it’s a slur? V*ltron, v*d, vee el dee, even saying straight up “v-slur.” So over-dramatic

[discoursecatharsis]

These antis really need to know that china isn't buddy buddy with lgbt reps like they thought. The country actually forbid depictions of homosexuality in tv shows, including web shows, and as a result a bunch of webdramas got nuked, EVEN ONES THAT ARENT ACTUALLY BL AND JUST MILDLY GAY. Like, some of my favorite shows got hit by it, and afaik they censored mdzs even (I haven't watched it yet)...

I follow these Chinese cosplayers, who are a gay couple (they’re called Baozi and Hana), and recently one of them shared an instagram post showing that they were banned from some Chinese streaming site for “publicizing homosexuality.” He said that they weren’t even doing anything, no pda’s, they were just eating and talking. Basically the website shut down their account for a week because they exist as gay men.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BpfMwsSnRDB/

But sure antis, shit on Voltron Legendary Defender and praise mdzs, completely ignoring the fact that China is still incredibly homophobic. Apparently mdzs isn’t even airing on regular channels, it’s on the Chinese equivalent of Netflix. Hmm similar to even the US, where there are more lgbt+ friendly shows on paid streaming services than there are on cable public television.

[huntypastellance]

Even Love O2O had to censor its canon side gay couple down to barely subtextual despite it being the most popular het romance drama of the year when it aired.

Even Go Princess Go! was repeatedly censored & taken off the Internet for being a “gay” story despite the male protagonist being a soul possessing a princess’ body.

Also, relevant: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2158196/gay-themed-drama-latest-victim-chinas-drive-purge-harmful-and

A Chinese drama series based on a popular gay-themed sci-fi novel has been pulled from one of the country’s top video-streaming platforms barely two months after its release, sparking fury among its fans.

The show – based on a novel published online by an author using the pen name “Priest” – is the latest in a string of Chinese productions recently pulled or delayed since an official directive was issued last month to “clean up TV programmes of harmful and vulgar content”.

Although the novel was explicit about the heroes’ homosexual interactions, the screenwriters were careful to present their relationship as a bond of brotherhood in the hope of avoiding the censors.

Internet users discussing the popular drama online had also avoided explicit mention of the show’s gay undertones, referring to the topic using the hashtag “socialist brotherhood” in a bid to avoid catching official attention.

“In order to pass the censors, the screenwriters turned this story into a science fiction drama for children, and it was still taken offline,” one internet user commented on Weibo.

Another questioned whether any love stories should be allowed. “What about the kissing, sex, and the bullets and blood in war films? Shouldn’t they all be removed as well? Let’s all watch only CCTV news then.”

[discoursecatharsis]

Antis are sending a cancer survivor anon hate that they should’ve died because they ship Sheith. How low can antis go? Horrible

[huntypastellance]

Christ….

http://archive.fo/5y8bY

[junko-for-proships-deactivated2]

LM: Also the nice moment of Blaytz hitting on the waiter JDS: That’s right LM: It’s funny because when we called out specifically a male waiter because you know, out there in the galaxy who says what sexual orientation is what. Who says, you know, maybe Blaytz is uh…Blaytz’s alien race doesn’t even have genders. But then it came back and it was a lady and were all “NO NO! No no no no!” JDS: It was drawn a lady yeah. LM: Make it a boy alright. Make it a boy. It was actually Christy Sing’s (sp?) idea originally JDS: That’s right LM: She was like “Can we make it a boy?” And we were like “Yeah~” JDS: So yeah, “confirmed”. People were kind of questioning about Blaytz

Form Podcast - The Legend Begins (5:20 - 6:10)

[junko-for-proships-deactivated2]

So is Shiro not gay enough for you or…

[pointykeef]

I thought antis loved Adam but apparently not since they love to make Shiro into a grooming pedophile during their relationship since Shiro was obviously busy lusting over Keith the forever minor 🙄

[reesehatescapitalism]

we’re literally saying hes not a grooming pedophile/lusting over keith???

[pointykeef]

This post is fucking sayings its nobodies fault other than your homophobic asses to see a gay man being a predator but go off I guess.

Yall love to force the idea that sheith is pedophilia just bc they knew eachother at a young age and that we shipped a minor/adult when it was proven wrong multiple times. It’s literally the same argument homophobes made for years to justify their actions against us. Shiro met Keith at his teenage years but had a boyfriend therefore he didnt have feelings for Keith. Shiro and Keith are now 5 years apart and are at adult stages of life, have been adults since s1. This has been what Sheiths have been shipping.

Yall antis just make Shiro into a pedophile and as a gay asian man literally fuck yall 🤷🏽‍♂️

[reesehatescapitalism]

yes i, a gay person, is very homophobic for calling a relationship with a power dynamic, thats pseudo-incestious, predatory. tahts why sheith isnt canon, excactlt because shiro wouldnt date someone whos 7 years younger (5 bc of that that age skip thing) theyre at different levels of maturity and insinuating shiro would fall for an 18 y/o at 25 when he was 20 when he was jis teacher is fucked. he would never go for keith excactly becausw this gay disabled man of colour IS NOT a predator

[pointykeef]

Internalized homophobia is a thing that happens to even gay people, just saying and since antis use the same homophobic Christian rhetorics in order to push their agendas and harm LGBT people I’d say you’re not very far off.

Power dynamic? They’re literally both leaders of their own teams now. Even when Shiro piloted the black lion he had always treated Keith as an equal and never manipulated him with his status.

Pseudo-incest? Doesn’t exist. They’re either related, adopted, or not. And guess what? They’re not any of the above no matter how many times yall antis try to say they are. Especially since even a writer of the show LAUGHED at people who thought they were brothers.

Predatory? Yup, your homophobia is showing again - stop saying a Gay Asian disabled man is a predator 🙄

Theres also no proof that Shiro was a teacher, just a mentor AND a student. Adam was a teacher who knows how much older he was than Shiro. Again, SHIRO HAD A WHOLE ASS BOYFRIEND. He would have no time to love Keith at that age how hard is that to understand???? Not everyone falls in love with people the first time they meet, peoples feelings CHANGE. Not because he turned 18, like how yall claim, but because people can fall in love over time. They’re literally best friends, a fact that’s been said by the staff and Keith in some of the books, not any of your disgusting claims about Shiro.

Love how you also said “because it’s not canon”, so? None of the LGBT ships like Klance or Heith etc etc are canon but some people ship it 🤷🏽‍♂️

[reesehatescapitalism]

so me saying it would be predatory to be into a teen as a whole ass adult is me having internalized homophobia?? if shiro was a girl or keith was a girl nobody would ship it lol

power dynamic as in shiro was appointed to lead and keith only lead for a bit after he had to. idk abt the end of s8, killing adam kinda fucked me up

pseudo incest as in having character whos esentially brothers be in love is wierd. imagine thinking the people who had keith say shiros like a brother laugh at the idea of people seeing them as brothers?? what??

im not calling shiro a predator, im stating lusting after a kid would be predatory. again, thats excactly why shiro would never go for keith; he aint a predator

he thaught students stuff at kerberos. if you teach someone stuff, ur a teacher lol

the issue isnt shipping uncanon stuff, its saying i have internalized homophobia because i stated that if keith and shiro dated, which they wouldnt, there would be a predatory age gap between them

[pointykeef]

I'm saying you have internalized homophobia for forcing the Heterosexual Life Partners trope on two ADULTS rather than let people see two gay MEN in a relationship. Again. Keith was 18 from season 1, DW officiated it, and hes been an adult the whole time. And lmao, people are shipping bubbline when it was confirmed that Princess Bubblegum knew Marceline as a teenager, was like a sister, and when Marceline grew up mentally in her Stakes arc they got back together. So yes, if I saw a dynamic like Sheith but as girls, it's most likely theyd be shipped lol. Keith's not a teen. Nobody was shipping Keith as a teen bc he wasn't one to begin with.

They were still equals, Keith was Shiro's right hand man, SECOND in Command. Does that mean ships with Keith other than Shiro has a power imbalance bc he held power over them too? What about now? Keith is Voltrons leader does that mean he can't be shipped unless they are leaders? And believe me. Adam dying was hurtful to a lot of people. It hurt me knowing that a mlm guy died. It hurt me knowing Ezor died right after being revealed to be in a relationship with Zethrid moments before.

But again. Pseudo-incest makes?? No sense?? So you're saying that if I found someone really close and call them my family I can't fall in love with them? We still wouldn't be related. And when people get married they become a family. LGBT people have been doing it for YEARS. When homosexuality was still a taboo and we couldn't place our finger on what we felt for the same gender we thought we were LIMITED to just "like a brother/like a sister". Hell, many Asian countries call their older friends "brother and sister" when we're that close. If we're not related by blood or paper it's literally fair game. And what do you mean? Joshua Hamilton a WRITER was on a podcast laughing at people who thought they were literal brothers and even said the "you're my brother" line wasn't literal. It was, and I quote, Keith's way of saying "You're my everything"

But you are MAKING him into a predator by implying Sheith is about Shiro lusting over pre-kerb Keith when it's not. Again, he wouldnt go for pre-kerb Keith bc he had a boyfriend that's what this post is literally about. I'm angry at people whod claim sheith is predatory when it was obvious his ex was in the picture at that time and would even look Keith that way at all. The popular theory Sheiths have is that Shiro started to crush on Keith during the Across the Universe episode NOT as a teenager.

Again though, that was never stated lol. He was never seen teaching kids in the show and was never CALLED a teacher. A mentor yes, teacher no. You can mentor someone without being called a teacher lmao

And heres the thing, you cant really be the judge of whether or not you have internalized homophobia now can you? If someone calls you something you're not proud of you rethink and learn not try to deny it. And predatory age gap?? Really???? They're 5 years apart. That's not predatory among adults. Many couples have have the same age gap. Say a 15 yr old and a 20 yr old yeah that would be a problem but Keith is 21 and Shiro is 26... that's no where near predatory.

[pointykeef]

I thought antis loved Adam but apparently not since they love to make Shiro into a grooming pedophile during their relationship since Shiro was obviously busy lusting over Keith the forever minor 🙄

[reesehatescapitalism]

we’re literally saying hes not a grooming pedophile/lusting over keith???

[pointykeef]

This post is fucking sayings its nobodies fault other than your homophobic asses to see a gay man being a predator but go off I guess.

Yall love to force the idea that sheith is pedophilia just bc they knew eachother at a young age and that we shipped a minor/adult when it was proven wrong multiple times. It’s literally the same argument homophobes made for years to justify their actions against us. Shiro met Keith at his teenage years but had a boyfriend therefore he didnt have feelings for Keith. Shiro and Keith are now 5 years apart and are at adult stages of life, have been adults since s1. This has been what Sheiths have been shipping.

Yall antis just make Shiro into a pedophile and as a gay asian man literally fuck yall 🤷🏽‍♂️

[reesehatescapitalism]

yes i, a gay person, is very homophobic for calling a relationship with a power dynamic, thats pseudo-incestious, predatory. tahts why sheith isnt canon, excactlt because shiro wouldnt date someone whos 7 years younger (5 bc of that that age skip thing) theyre at different levels of maturity and insinuating shiro would fall for an 18 y/o at 25 when he was 20 when he was jis teacher is fucked. he would never go for keith excactly becausw this gay disabled man of colour IS NOT a predator

[pointykeef]

Internalized homophobia is a thing that happens to even gay people, just saying and since antis use the same homophobic Christian rhetorics in order to push their agendas and harm LGBT people I'd say you're not very far off.

Power dynamic? They're literally both leaders of their own teams now. Even when Shiro piloted the black lion he had always treated Keith as an equal and never manipulated him with his status.

Pseudo-incest? Doesn't exist. They're either related, adopted, or not. And guess what? They're not any of the above no matter how many times yall antis try to say they are. Especially since even a writer of the show LAUGHED at people who thought they were brothers.

Predatory? Yup, your homophobia is showing again - stop saying a Gay Asian disabled man is a predator 🙄

Theres also no proof that Shiro was a teacher, just a mentor AND a student. Adam was a teacher who knows how much older he was than Shiro. Again, SHIRO HAD A WHOLE ASS BOYFRIEND. He would have no time to love Keith at that age how hard is that to understand???? Not everyone falls in love with people the first time they meet, peoples feelings CHANGE. Not because he turned 18, like how yall claim, but because people can fall in love over time. They're literally best friends, a fact that's been said by the staff and Keith in some of the books, not any of your disgusting claims about Shiro.

Love how you also said "because it's not canon", so? None of the LGBT ships like Klance or Heith etc etc are canon but some people ship it 🤷🏽‍♂️