Politicisms

[politicisms-blog]

I went through 10 pages of Youtube results for “INFJ” over several hours, and do you know how many of the self-described “INFJs” who make videos about INFJs actually struck me as possibly being real INFJs?

Two. Fucking two. Out of about 15 channels. And one of them shouldn’t even count because she’s a fucking 40 or 50-year-old MBTI certified typing “master” who probably has better things to do with her time than to be good friends with every single miserable isolated INFJ who crosses her path.

That’s fucking terrible. That’s a maximum of 14 ~ 15%. That means that 85% of the fucking “INFJs” on Youtube are probably mistypes. And several of them were even trying to delude themselves on purpose, by trying to convince themselves that they use Ni and Fe as their dominant and auxiliary functions when it was obvious that they don’t. And then the rest of them did the typical bullshit of “well a test told me I’m an INFJ, so here I am automatically assuming that it’s true without question and making videos about it!”

And if all of that shit is true about Youtube, what might that say about a lot of the “INFJs” in the greater MBTI / cognitive function community?

People who see this of course are probably going to pull the usual bullshit that I’ve seen in every other place where they’ll just ostracize the person complaining and say that they’re the one who’s mistyped. Because INFJs are supposed to be these mythical Jesus Christs who are nice 100% of the time and because, what everyone else says is probably true because it exists and is a thing! Therefore Mr. complainer you’re probably wrong and everyone else is probably right, so piss off! Hello Te and Fi!

Well you know what? I really don’t give a shit at this point. My life is a fucking hell because of socioeconomic circumstances that are beyond my control. There’s a shit ton of stuff that I need to do in order to try weaseling my way out of it all and I am having a difficult time trying to summon enough energy and optimism to half-ass it well enough. And all of these mistyped “INFJs” are only making the problem worse. Because it would be really nice to be able to find a close friend who could understand me as a person, but nope! All I find are nothing but mistypes who think they’re INFJs just because of how much they feel misunderstood in the Si and Te dominated culture here in the United States. Oh the irony!

But go ahead and respond however you will. Know this, though: I have done my homework and research. Ni is my dominant function and it is supported by Fe and Ti and I have even tried to disprove it only to fail time and time again. If your feelings will be so hurt that you’ll need to try shunning and tearing me down in response to my ranting about the state of affairs in the greater MBTI / cognitive function community which isn’t even directed at you personally, then that response would say a lot more about you than you would think that my ranting says about me.

[anonymousintp]

MBTI Terms vs Conventional Meaning

One of the main problems with MBTI is that this theory uses rather common words to indicate types, but these MBTI “jargon” actually have completely different meanings from their conventional usage. This leads to misunderstandings of what the actual MBTI theory is about.

Moreover, most MBTI tests give you results based on percentages of I vs E, S vs N, T vs F, and J vs P. This creates a misunderstanding that the theory is based on the dichotomies between each letter pair, and that someone can be half J and half P, for example.

Let’s explore what MBTI terms really mean, and how they differ from the conventional meanings of these words, and the misinterpreted stereotypical/dichotomous “MBTI” meanings.

Introvert (I)

Introvert (conventional & stereotypical/dichotomous MBTI)

Someone who likes to spend time alone, preferring to be in their own room reading books

Someone who dislikes parties or any kinds of social gatherings

Probably shy and doesn’t talk much, may have social anxiety

Has few close friends, or, no real life friends

Has low energy

Introvert (MBTI)

Having a dominant introverted function (Ti, Fi, Ni, or Si)

A preference for focusing their energy inward e.g. tending to their own thoughts alone, analyzing themselves and their environment

A preference for formulating complete thoughts or theories on their own first before sharing them with other people

An MBTI introvert can be outgoing and sociable, but they still feel more at home being with their own thoughts and get worn out faster when interacting with people than extraverts

Extravert (E)

Extravert (conventional & stereotypical/dichotomous MBTI)

Someone who’s outgoing and a social butterfly

Loves parties

Has a large group of friends and large network of acquaintances

Great at networking and making new friends

Talkative and socially confident

Energetic

Extravert (MBTI)

Having a dominant extraverted function (Te, Fe, Ne, or Se)

A preference for focusing their energy outward e.g. interacting with the outside world by talking to others or taking actions and interacting with their surroundings

A preference for formulating their thoughts as they talk out loud to other people without having completely polished thoughts beforehand

An MBTI extravert can have social anxiety and dislike spending time with a large group of people, but they still have a preference of interacting with the outside world. An MBTI extravert may only prefer spending time with their few close friends, but they need to interact with those few close friends a lot to feel fulfilled and balanced.

Ambivert

Ambivert (conventional)

Someone who has both qualities of the conventional introvert and the conventional extravert in moderate amount

i.e. pretty much everyone on earth

Ambivert (stereotypical/dichotomous MBTI)

Someone who gets 50% E and 50% I on MBTI tests

Ambivert (MBTI)

This is a trick. It doesn’t exist in this theory.

Why? Because of each type’s thought process works based on 4 cognitive functions (out of 8). You can’t be half this type and half the other type because you’d have conflicting cognitive functions - i.e. constant cognitive dissonance with every single living thought, so you’d not be a functioning human (get the pun?).

For the more advanced MBTI enthusiasts: Yes, introverts and extraverts with the same last 3 letters have the same functions (e.g. INTP and ENTP), but you still can’t really be half-half because Ti-Ne and Ne-Ti approach the world differently. They experience different problems and stress factors (Ti-Si loop and Fe grip v.s. Ne-Fe loop and Si-grip).

If you don’t know what cognitive functions are, start with this.

Intuitive (N)

Intuitive (conventional)

Knowing something to be true without conscious reasoning or the need to go through information

“Women’s intuition”

Having an almost psychic ability to “get” people

Fluid intelligence (e.g. an intuitive learner)

Intuitive (stereotypical/dichotomous MBTI)

An intelligent, interesting person who gets all the funny jokes and subtle hints that people give

Imaginative, creative, artistic, explorative

Intuitive (MBTI)

Someone who prefers to use interpretations of information they receive from the 5 senses - e.g. possibilities of what these things could be, their theoretical usage, and what they relate to (Ne), or what these things symbolically represent and will become in the future (Ni)

A preference for discussing theoretical, abstract, symbolic topics

A preference to understand the global, overall picture before getting into details

Being an Intuitive does not equate being intelligent. There are plenty of boring Intuitives around. It depends on how you develop yourself.

Sensing (S)

Sensing (conventional)

Quite similar to the conventional meaning of intuition - having a feeling that there’s something going on beneath the surface (e.g. “I’m sensing something wrong here”)

Perceiving or becoming aware of something

Sensor (stereotypical/dichotomous MBTI)

An unintelligent, boring person who always misses hints and has no sense of humor

Bland, boring, dull, mediocre

Sensing (MBTI)

Someone who prefers to use direct information they receive from the 5 senses - e.g. what these things are and what I can use them for right now (Se), or what these things are and how they have been used effectively in the past (Si)

A preference for discussing practical, applicable, immediately relevant topics

A preference for learning details first, then building those details up to an overall picture

Sensors can be intelligent, creative, and artistic (yes, even SJs)

Thinking (T)

Thinking (conventional)

The process of considering or reasoning about something

Directing one’s mind towards something or someone

Thinking (stereotypical/dichotomous MBTI)

Someone who thinks a lot

Making decisions based on logic and rationality

Someone who is calm and intelligent

Someone who is robotic and stoic, and doesn’t have any emotions

Someone who is doing something technical like hard sciences and maths

Like a stereotypical man

Thinking (MBTI)

A preference for making decisions based on facts, truth and logical analysis (Ti), rationality and empirical evidence (Te)

MBTI Thinkers can learn to be considerate and not offensive to others, especially if their feeling function is in the tertiary position.

MBTI Thinkers have emotions, and can act emotionally/irrationally, especially in times of stress or if immature

MBTI Thinkers are not automatically good at science and math, and may not even like those subjects. They can be amazing artists and musicians.

Feeling (F)

Feeling (conventional)

An emotional state or reaction

Experiencing an emotion or sensation

Feeling (stereotypical/dichotomous MBTI)

Someone who feels a lot and doesn’t think a lot

Making decisions based on emotions

An emotional person; someone who’s dramatic, may be animated, sweet, and nice

Most likely unintelligent, not academic, and incapable of logical thinking

Someone who is doing something involving arts, languages, or humanities

Like a stereotypical woman

Feeling (MBTI)

A preference for making decisions based on what is morally just, personal ethics (Fi) or keeping social harmony (Fe)

MBTI Feelers can be logical, think empirically, good at science and math, and do not act emotional

MBTI Feelers can be bashful and inconsiderate, especially if immature or under stress

Judging (J)

Judging (conventional)

Forming an opinion or conclusion about something

Being judgmental; determining whether qualities someone or something has are correct or desirable

Judging (stereotypical/dichotomous MBTI)

Someone who is organized, responsible, structured, neat, clean, tidy

Someone who is always on time

Someone who loves schedules and needs to plan ahead

Judging (MBTI)

Having a dominant (if extraverted) or auxiliary (if introverted) extraverted judging functions (Je) - Te, Fe

Judgers can be messy, spontaneous, and always late (especially in leisure). These are learned behaviors/habits. Their external behaviors do not dictate their MBTI (i.e. thought process).

Perceiving (P)

Perceiving (conventional)

The way the brain processes external information through the 5 senses

Becoming aware of something

Interpreting something in a particular way

Perceiving (stereotypical/dichotomous MBTI)

Someone who is messy, scattered, disorganized, lazy, unreliable

Someone who is always late

Someone who is easy going and always go with the flow

Someone who is spontaneous and loves surprises

Perceiving (MBTI)

Having a dominant (if extraverted) or auxiliary (if introverted) extraverted perceiving functions (Pe) - Ne, Se

Perceivers can be outwardly organized, tidy, and always on time (especially in the work place or if they grew up in that environment). These are learned behaviors/habits. Their external behaviors do not dictate their MBTI (i.e. thought process).

If you want to know more about MBTI, visit MBTI Resources - a compilation of the well-written, informative, and accurate articles on the web.

-eilamona

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[mbtipical]

Things I want to tell the types

INTJ: Behind all those pissed off faces at your comments and criticism I promise you at least one person is inwardly smiling and/or thanking god they have you around.

ENTJ: Putting your ambitions ahead of people sometimes does not make you a bad person.

INTP: You’re smart. Don’t argue with me. Don’t listen to that voice in the back of your head. You’re smart. End of.

ENTP: The smiles aren’t fake. People really do like you. They genuinely do think you’re funny. But don’t take that for granted.

INFJ: There are people capable of understanding you. I promise. But your guard might actually be blocking out kindred spirits.

ENFJ: Just being around you is motivating. You make people want to be better. I don’t think you even realise how together you are compared to most people.

INFP: Your fantasies are not ‘sad’ or ‘childish’. Your mind is incredible and one day you will find a good use for it.

ENFP: None of your ideas are useless. Don’t try and filter them.

ISTJ: You are not boring. Your organisation is practically super human and your consistency is a great comfort in an ever changing world. You are a good and loyal person and I know the MBTI community can be harsh on you but I promise you are just as individual as anyone else here and you are just as worth while.

ESTJ: Your drive and motivation is insane. If I had a quarter of your dedication I would be happy.

ISFJ: Not everything is your fault. And oh my god you are not selfish for not taking care of everyone else 100% of the time. You are allowed to do things for yourself.

ESFJ: How are you so good at being human? How is it possible that one person can love so much and be so loved and still have their life so on track? Because you do. You might doubt it sometimes but you do.

ISTP: You’re more intelligent than people give you credit for. You hide it behind layers of sarcasm and pessimism but it’s plain as day to me. And if I had to choose an adventure partner I would want an ISTP.

ESTP: You’re not afraid of new things and are always on the look out for new adventures and I love it.

ISFP: You really do have an eye for beauty. You find colour in the dullest of scenes and the images your mind can creative are incredible. 

ESFP: There’s never a dull moment around you. You liven up any situation and sometimes your enthusiasm is exactly what we need.

[politicisms-blog]

O.o;

I’ve sometimes wondered if my guard might be a little bit too much at times. And I think my somewhat close INFP friend would really appreciate the one for them too.

Now I’m curious about the type of the person who wrote this, haha.

And it’s strange.. I’m so used to seeing nothing but ridiculous misinformation in the MBTI community, to the point that I don’t even want to try sifting through it all any more. But the stuff on your blog seems pretty good.

Edit: And she says she’s an INTP! YEESSS!!! Finally! Someone who writes about cognitive function / MBTI stuff who doesn’t pretend to be a mythical INFJ to feel like an infallible Galadriel from LOTR! Although I’m pretty sure the character's strong focus on trying to find the truth behind everything in order to see and shape the future is actually a good representation of my type, but still.

Mbtipical, you’re fucking awesome. Thank you.

[angiebunnie-deactivated20250210]

Something that helped me figure out if I was INFP or INFJ

*who am I starts playing in the background*

So, you’re stuck between INFP and INFJ? Don’t worry! I’ve been there. You can’t decide which one you are, tests say your both, you relate with both in almost every way and function, you relate with INFP quotes and INFJ quotes, you see your self in both types, in every youtube video and nothing makes sense (you might even be one of those people, like me, who scored 1% on Perceiving or Judging and you’re just like well screw it I’m probably both ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ even though you can’t be) I’ve was there, going back and forth for a year, sometimes obsessing over getting down to the bottom of which one I was. I would spend hours doing research, reading ‘INFP or INFJ’ posts on only God knows how many sites and forums and nothing really helped or clicked for me because I usually related evenly to both and confused the hell out of myself.

It wasn’t until I received some eye opening advice that everything clicked (I think this advice is especially helpful for INFPs and INFJs(?) since technical terms and long detailed explanations can lose our attention and make our heads hurt (well, for me anyway)).

Keep reading

[politicisms-blog]

I really, really wish that more people who initially think that they’re INFJs would put this level of thought and effort into seeing if they’re right.

I am an INFJ, and the amounts of mistyped people who think that they’re INFJs is almost devastating. It’s the rarest type and I literally can’t learn about my own type in order to be able to find other INFJs out there in the real world to befriend. I literally can’t have those kinds of very like-minded friends in part because all the fakes saturate every last online “INFJ” area, making it difficult to form a pattern in my mind of what kinds of things to look for. And when any potentially real INFJ brings up the issue of all of the mistypes, they’re only met with insecure groupthink-inspired angry resistance from all of the fakes.

I feel incredibly isolated and it’s terrible. And I know that I’m actually an INFJ instead of a fake myself because I’ve tried to disprove it so many times only to fail spectacularly. It has actually been very interesting to see what it probably feels like to be a scientist who tries to disprove a hypothesis over and over again only to realize that it is inevitably true. And it sucks because all of the fakes and their passive confirmation-bias-inspired acceptance of what a quiz and profile tells them in the face of their hunger for uniqueness means that I’ll probably never have my own set of close friends for several years to come.

Angie, thank you for looking so reflectively into what type you actually are, because that kind of thing helps reduce the problem of anyone having difficulty learning about and finding friends of their own type irrespective of what type they are. We all win in personality type spaces when more people are able to figure out their actual types, so thank you again.

And for anyone who has a lot of difficulty when they try to take the advice of “learn the cognitive functions”, her post has some interesting methods that might prove more helpful in that type of situation.

[angiebunnie-deactivated20250210]

Wow, yes! You make a very, very good and important point! It’s so important to pay attention and learn and research and not mistype yourself. I scored INFJ on tests multiple time (and I can still score it on some tests today) but I know that’s not me, I know I’m an INFP, I just fit much much better and there’s always this sense of ‘that’s me’ when I read it or research it - honestly I probably only score INFJ because I strongly value logic and I take pleasure in organizing things - but what the test doesn’t know is that I’ve been through a lot of emotional trauma as a kid to earn that kind of wisdom and respect for logic and I like organizing things because it keeps me calm, but I mess things up again and don’t follow lists I make over 90% of the time so I’m still 100% INFP I’m just an INFP who’s a little bit more wise and reasonable (to a certain degree lol)

But my point is I feel like if more people who mistype would just stick with the one they knew was them instead of the one that ‘sort of has qualities of me in it too’. Like we can easily see ourselves in another type and you can easily relate to another type, but that doesn’t mean you are that type.

I’m so sorry you’ve had so much trouble with fakes (;A;) If they’re mistyped INFPs I know they mean well, they just probably want to be different because that’s a thing we like because it sounds like stories like ‘I’m a different girl’ or something OTL I apologize. And I’m sorry finding other like-minded people have been so hard. I know tons, TONS of INFPs. I’ve only ever met two real INFJs offline and about two online (not including you) so INFJs are extremely rare, but they’re so great and when you meet real INFJs it’s so nice and so refreshing. They’re so calming and so kind <33 I love them <33 I’m fortunate I’m good friends with one.

But I’m so sorry you feel so isolated (;A;) I wish there was something I could do!!! *would love to surround you with INFJ friends you can relate too* If you want to I could give you the URLs of my two INFJ friends on here? c: I’m sure they’d love to talk to you!!! And they probably can relate too!

Awwww, thank you so much for appreciating it (;////;) I’m hugely Intrapersonal so finding MBTI made me obsessed with wanting to understand myself (and others) better. I did TONS of research, I would spend all day on forums, watching vlogs and youtube videos of types, scrolling trough tags and reading articles lol but now I know who I am and it feels so nice to understand myself and others better! <333 I do wish other people would do more research like that though!

And regarding your tags: This reply wasn’t weird! It was very insightful and encouraging to me! I am glad you could vent though, it sounds like you really needed to and I’m glad you were able to get some frustration out! c: I’m sorry other people have responded negatively to your venting before (;n;)

But there is something I want to say to you; Please don’t wish you were an INFP. I mean, it’s fine to admire the type! But you’re so beautiful and special being the INFJ you are and I adore INFJs <3333 I know it’s hard and frustrating sometimes being your type (I honestly think all types get frustrated with themselves sometimes) but don’t wish to be someone else! You’re like a rare treasure! Or like girl scout cookies! Or super moon! Like you only come around once in a while and you’re hard to find but you’re so beautiful and so admirable <333 So don’t wish to change! You’re perfect just the way you are <333

I hope things will get better for you soon c’: <3

[politicisms-blog]

Aww, thank you so much! That’s all very sweet.

I’d hate to be one of those people who replies to a long, thoughtful post with only one or two lines, but that really is what it is: very sweet XD

And I agree that all of the types have their own strengths that they can bring to the table (or more specifically, society). Even the ESTJs who seem to have a habit of really annoying INFJs (like the same kind of disconnect that INFPs seem to experience with ESTPs). The theory would be a lot more useful indeed if people were more honest with themselves and tried to figure out their uncertainties and seriously test their beliefs like that instead of just rolling with it head-strong.

I honestly blame the popularization of MBTI to a large extent. Without going into long and uninteresting detail, MBTI’s 16 types are based upon Carl Jung’s hypothesis of there being cognitive functions that describe how we perceive and judge the world. In this theory, an INFJ’s four major functions (out of eight total) are Introverted iNtuition (Ni), Extroverted Feeling (Fe), Introverted Thinking (Ti) and Extroverted Sensing (Se), while an INFP predominantly uses Fi-Ne-Si-Te.

What this means is that the 16 types are actually based upon functions that they use, and that they all have some form of intuition, sensing, thinking and feeling inside of them. This is in stark contrast to the pop psychology of MBTI, which not only implies that INFJs and INFPs are challenged at sensing and thinking but also adds two dimensions of its own that don’t really make much sense in comparison to what we tend observe from the types in reality: introversion / extroversion and perceiving / judging.

In the original theory of cognitive functions, introversion / extroversion describes the type of intuition, sensing, thinking and feeling that a person uses, while judging / perceiving carries different connotations instead of “unorganized” or “messy” and is based upon if someone’s dominant (first) function is a judging (Ti / Te or Fi / Fe) or perceiving (Ni / Ne or Se / Si) function.

What all of those technicalities mean for the real world of the 16 types is that people greatly misunderstand what the types actually are. So what ends up happening is that someone who isn’t as able to sift through all of that mess online due to the weaknesses of their own actual type, will run into a lot of misinformation that just builds upon itself throughout online personality discussions in a negative feedback loop. So a huge amount of people tend to get completely tripped up on the incorrect labels and misconceptions in the MBTI community, never truly understanding what the types actually are -- different bundles of cognitive functions that have strengths and weaknesses depending on the situation and context.

In the case of INFPs who mistype as INFJs, I know they mean well too. The mass of all of the different mistypes regardless of their actual types just makes it really difficult and frustrating to try to become better able to spot the real INFJs. Especially when I see things like “INFJ John” on Youtube making videos with thousands of views about what INFJs -actually are- when he or she probably mistyped themself and isn’t actually an INFJ in the first place. But you have nothing to apologize for because you didn’t do anything wrong; on the contrary, you did everything right :D

And I thank you a lot for your offer of introducing me to your INFJ friends. That means a lot to me and I’d love to do it. But first, I want you to show them this conversation and let them peruse my (lack of a :P) tumblr so that the decision is theirs. Because I know that they probably give a decent amount of emotional support and time to other people, and helping another person with their Ni and Fe would be another investment of their own possibly-constrained energy. And I know that they probably get really sick and tired of the misinformation and mistypes that keep taking over every “INFJ” space themselves, even if they might not talk about it; so in the minuscule chance that I might be wrong about my own type or in the chance that they might think I’m another fake, I want them to feel free to say to themselves, “no, this guy is full of shit. I don’t want to deal with it when he’s part of the problem.”

To you INFJs, I want you to make your decision based on your Ni and Ti. Try to ignore anything that I’ve said about feeling bad. Ignore your tendency to be willing to listen, even the thought of “well I could just talk with them a little bit and go from there”. I want your decision to be based upon what you really think, because I know that you have to deal with all of that bullshit too. And if you think that I’m wrong and that I’ve mistyped myself then I don’t want to be part of the problem and make it worse, because you deserve better than dealing with that. Everyone does. Although if you do think I’m wrong, send your reasoning, critique and what type(s) you think I might actually be through your friend so that I could learn from it and maybe correct myself in that case.

Back to you Angie, I’ll go ahead and enable anonymous asks and submissions in case you or they might prefer to keep their URL(s) or other stuff private. Thank you so much again for your kind words and offer.

And I’m really sorry to hear about the trauma you went through growing up. Hopefully it doesn’t cause too many problems now these days..? I wasn’t sure how much, but it sounds like you’re able to work through it now decently enough..?

[angiebunnie-deactivated20250210]

Something that helped me figure out if I was INFP or INFJ

*who am I starts playing in the background*

So, you’re stuck between INFP and INFJ? Don’t worry! I’ve been there. You can’t decide which one you are, tests say your both, you relate with both in almost every way and function, you relate with INFP quotes and INFJ quotes, you see your self in both types, in every youtube video and nothing makes sense (you might even be one of those people, like me, who scored 1% on Perceiving or Judging and you’re just like well screw it I’m probably both ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ even though you can’t be) I’ve was there, going back and forth for a year, sometimes obsessing over getting down to the bottom of which one I was. I would spend hours doing research, reading ‘INFP or INFJ’ posts on only God knows how many sites and forums and nothing really helped or clicked for me because I usually related evenly to both and confused the hell out of myself.

It wasn’t until I received some eye opening advice that everything clicked (I think this advice is especially helpful for INFPs and INFJs(?) since technical terms and long detailed explanations can lose our attention and make our heads hurt (well, for me anyway)).

Keep reading

[politicisms-blog]

I really, really wish that more people who initially think that they’re INFJs would put this level of thought and effort into seeing if they’re right.

I am an INFJ, and the amounts of mistyped people who think that they’re INFJs is almost devastating. It’s the rarest type and I literally can’t learn about my own type in order to be able to find other INFJs out there in the real world to befriend. I literally can’t have those kinds of very like-minded friends in part because all the fakes saturate every last online “INFJ” area, making it difficult to form a pattern in my mind of what kinds of things to look for. And when any potentially real INFJ brings up the issue of all of the mistypes, they’re only met with insecure groupthink-inspired angry resistance from all of the fakes.

I feel incredibly isolated and it’s terrible. And I know that I’m actually an INFJ instead of a fake myself because I’ve tried to disprove it so many times only to fail spectacularly. It has actually been very interesting to see what it probably feels like to be a scientist who tries to disprove a hypothesis over and over again only to realize that it is inevitably true. And it sucks because all of the fakes and their passive confirmation-bias-inspired acceptance of what a quiz and profile tells them in the face of their hunger for uniqueness means that I’ll probably never have my own set of close friends for several years to come.

Angie, thank you for looking so reflectively into what type you actually are, because that kind of thing helps reduce the problem of anyone having difficulty learning about and finding friends of their own type irrespective of what type they are. We all win in personality type spaces when more people are able to figure out their actual types, so thank you again.

And for anyone who has a lot of difficulty when they try to take the advice of “learn the cognitive functions”, her post has some interesting methods that might prove more helpful in that type of situation.

[onomatocawfee]

Hillary “we cannot afford a Republican to succeed Barack Obama as president of the United states”

TRUTH

[politicisms-blog]

And since they’re just going to obstruct the next Democratic President regardless of who they are like they’ve done with Obama, our goal should be to pick whichever candidate has the best chance of driving voter turnout and public interest in politics even after the election is over.

And Bernie Sanders has been calling for a political revolution during his entire campaign, has been drawing larger crowds than Clinton at speaking events and has pointed out his intention for trying to correct the mistake this country made in not giving a damn about things after Obama won the 2008 election.

[onomatocawfee]

I feel this. Bern is the answer for this country.

[politicisms-blog]

:D

[onomatocawfee]

Hillary “we cannot afford a Republican to succeed Barack Obama as president of the United states”

TRUTH

[politicisms-blog]

And since they’re just going to obstruct the next Democratic President regardless of who they are like they’ve done with Obama, our goal should be to pick whichever candidate has the best chance of driving voter turnout and public interest in politics even after the election is over.

And Bernie Sanders has been calling for a political revolution during his entire campaign, has been drawing larger crowds than Clinton at speaking events and has pointed out his intention for trying to correct the mistake this country made in not giving a damn about things after Obama won the 2008 election.

[micdotcom]

Look around the news today and you’ll see a lot of outlets declaring Hillary Clinton the winner of last night’s debate. (Including us.)

But viewers may not agree. A poll conducted by Google Consumer Surveys for Mic tells a different story:

For professional debate watchers, Clinton’s bravura performance left no doubts. But audiences were clearly feeling the Bern — and this wasn’t the only survey that said so.

[politicisms-blog]

The audience literally cheered and clapped slightly more for Bernie Sanders than Hillary Clinton, although their enthusiasm was pretty close. And honestly, she made just as many performance mistakes as he did, and he even defended her against the manufactured email scandal more than she defended herself against it.

This isn’t a ‘Hillary Clinton had a better debate performance and so we’ll all say she won’, this is literally a ‘they both had a good debate performance, Sanders won on the substance and the audience and she won on the political I’m-a-family-person speak’. Media outlets are proclaiming her the “sweeping” winner when that was clearly not what happened if you actually watched the debate. The headlines and news stories are pure corporate propaganda.

[politicisms-blog]

Here’s something important that I didn’t quite notice during the debate last night

Hillary Clinton [explaining why she doesn’t share Bernie Sanders’ views on socialism]: But we are not Denmark. I love Denmark. We are the United States of America.

Hillary Clinton [later, when talking about her support for paid family leave in contrast to Carly Fiorina]: Well, I'm surprised she says that, because California has had a paid leave program for a number of years. And it's...

Dana Bash: It’s on the federal level.

Hillary Clinton: Well, but all -- well, on a state level, a state as big as many countries in the world.

So let me get this straight: paid family leave is A-ok because California did it and is as large as many countries, so we should be able to scale that up to the federal level. But things like tuition-free higher education and universal healthcare are not okay because our country is not a Nordic country and we supposedly wouldn’t be able to scale that up to the federal level¹.

That doesn’t make any sense. She’s literally picking and choosing what policies she wants to support based upon what the polls tell her she can support, which wouldn’t normally be a bad thing since that’s part of what politicians are supposed to do. But she’s being dishonest when she uses that argument against Bernie Sanders’ policies when it would also invalidate the few progressive positions that she herself is trying to take in order to beat him.

That kind of intellectual dishonesty is what has led to nothing getting done in our country’s political system because of how it prevents us from understanding and seriously debating the issues that need to be addressed. So I would very much like to see her, the other candidates and their supporters put some serious thought into the things that Sanders is saying and what their own positions are instead of just trying to shallowly score the most political points for their own side.

¹ Never-mind the fact that tuition-free higher education and universal healthcare are things that Canada and several major countries in Western Europe also do

[politicisms-blog]

Well this is awkward, CNN.

[-igaveyouall]

s c r e a m i n g

[aphrodaniel]

after that debate, my vote still stands for bernie. hillary was good too, credit is given when its due but bernie just seems like the perfect person for the job. but HOWEVER, I know he still has a chance of losing the primaries. I know y’all dont want to think that way but its still possible. hillary is still leading nationwide in the polls and if she ends up winning the nomination then I will gladly vote for her. no way in hell I’m gonna allow any one of those piss babies from the gop win this election. y’all better participate in this election. dont. fuck. this. up.

[homesickzero]

I need receipts for this progressive political record that Hilary Clinton is claiming. Bish, Where?

[iwriteaboutfeminism]

“If we want free tuition at public universities, young people are going to have to demand it.”

-Bernie Sanders

[iwriteaboutfeminism]

Marijuana legalization:

Bernie Sanders: “I suspect I would vote yes.”

Too many lives destroyed for non-violent offences. 

Clinton: Not ready to take a position. “I do support the use of medical marijuana.”

Agrees we have to stop imprisoning people who use marijuana.

[desupine-blog]

Debate takeaway:

1. Sanders is great! So great! But I’m afraid if he wins he will get nothing done bc government branches and opposition. I agreed with him most on this debate, but he should stop using the term “crises.” That’s always a red flag for me. I don’t trust tag words/phrases. 2. Hillary was classic Hillary. Smart, strong, knowledgable, not all-bullshit, but only a little fluffy. She knows what she wants, I support her, and I want to see her succeed. But will the presidency be in her future? After all this work? 3. I never paid attention to O'Malley before tonight but he definitely was a memorable player with a noticeably good heart. I liked him a lot. He mentioned my favorite word – compassion – several times and I agreed with most of his assertions about mass incarceration, foreign policy and gun reform. He’s gonna be a major player I think. 4. WHERE IS BIDEN

[politicisms-blog]

I know the word has been overused, but there are serious crises that need to be addressed. Climate change as the most widely-known example, and the influence of money on our politics as another.

But there is another future crisis that no one really seems to be aware of yet which is automation. As technology develops, computers and robots will start to replace more and more human workers which will drive up the unemployment rate. As this change accelerates, the advancement in automation technology will greatly outpace people’s ability to re-educate and re-train themselves for different jobs. Eventually we could be looking at a world-wide economic crisis over the coming generations that could put the Great Depression to shame.

This is a crisis that the conventional left-right system is not equipped to handle. Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if many western-European countries would be taken off-guard by this thing.

But either way, I think Bernie Sanders would be better equipped and has more insight and courage to prepare our country for that and other possible unforeseen crises than Hillary Clinton, who seems to be unaware of the issue as she erroneously said that we don’t need to save capitalism from itself. We very much do need to.

And honestly I think Bernie would be able to energize the voters better than Hillary too. We all seem to agree on the fact that the Republicans only care about obstructing whatever Democratic President is in office, and I think Bernie’s point about the need have a political revolution is the best way to address that. We need to take a stand and tell them to either join the 21st century or get the fuck out. And I think Bernie would have better luck in leading that kind of voter turnout and post-election public interest than Hillary would.

Edit: Yay for unintentionally spreading misinformation. I misheard Hillary Clinton during the beginning of the debate; she actually said that we sometimes do need to save capitalism from itself. Although there were other things she said about the whole capitalism -vs- socialism dynamic that still made her look a little foolish in my opinion.

[politicisms-blog]

I went into watching this debate with a determined neutral stance about Hillary Clinton and Martin O’Malley until I would hear them speak tonight about their stances. And honestly, I think I support Bernie Sanders more than Hillary Clinton.

Because here’s the thing. Bernie’s critics have a point: the Republicans have obstructed Obama at every turn and would likely do the same to any subsequent Democratic President. So the question then becomes which candidate can drive voter turnout during the election to result in as many Democrats in Congress as possible (as well as continued public interest after the election is over). And I think that Bernie Sanders’ leadership in calling for a political revolution is the best way to do that. Especially since his positions seem to be much more friendly towards young people than Hillary Clinton’s.

But what’s even more concerning is that this country will face very serious challenges that need to be brought into the national consciousness and addressed as soon as possible. Climate change is the most obvious one, but there is another dire issue in the form of automation. As technology advances, the short-sighted corporations who care only about their bottom lines will race as quickly as financially feasible towards designing computers and robots that can replace human workers in order to reduce labor costs. This is already happening as can be seen with Google’s self-driving cars, and it will start to cause severe problems with unemployment over the coming decades. Within our very lifetimes the coming unemployment rate and other economic conditions could very well put the Great Depression to shame if this issue is not addressed.

This paints a very stark picture in that our short-sighted unregulated capitalist system is literally going to start eating itself over the coming decades. Hillary Clinton is dangerously wrong when she said that we do not need to try to save capitalism from itself, because we do in order to preserve our economic well-being as a species.

That, in conjunction with Bernie Sanders’ insight in correctly predicting all the way back in 2002 the kind of instability we would see in the middle east if we invaded Iraq, makes me believe that he is the better candidate to lead this country. We need a political revolution that is guided by insight. And although I appreciate Hillary Clinton’s public service and good intentions, I don’t think that she has the kind of wisdom and insight that we will need in our leader in order to adequately address the major problems of climate change and automation, as well as any other major issues that may yet arise that could threaten our well-being as a society.

Edit: Unfortunately I misheard Hillary Clinton in the beginning of the debate; she actually said that we sometimes do need to save capitalism from itself. Although she did say other things about the capitalism -vs- socialism dynamic that still made her look a little foolish in my opinion.