why are you so heavily against endogenic systems? /genq
(using endogenic as a catch-all for any non-traumagenic system, DID as a catch-all for DID/OSDD/PDID/etc)
endogenic systems don't (or almost never) try to claim they have DID, alters/being a system is one of the symptoms of DID. there's many many articles on how plurality can form without DID, and that yes, trauma is needed for DID to form. but endos don't have that.
just generally wondering what your reasoning is + why you seem so hostile about it ("endos fuck off" seeming highly hostile)
(not trying to come off as rude, attacking, etc etc, just genuinely trying to understand.)
(TW for grooming, manipulation)
first off, thanks for genuinely asking and not attacking. and honestly, we mainly don't like endos since we were groomed by so many when we were just starting to begin discovering our system again. we were told our trauma "wasn't enough" to be DID (even though we had been diagnosed with it), and that we had to be a tulpa system instead. as a result, we denied all our trauma, even the stuff we were actively going through, and it did so much damage to us. many of the endos around us were also very anti-recovery; they didn't believe the trauma was bad enough, so they encouraged spiritual shit instead of therapy and healing. multiple endos even tried to purposefully make us split a sexual alter so they could sleep with us one day
when we did finally realize that, yes, the trauma was bad enough, and that, yes, the DID diagnosis was correct, and that endos were just harming our mental health, we were basically shunned from the system spaces we were in. i personally don't remember much from this time, but i remember that once we started saying we didn't want to interact with endos for our own mental health, we were sent threats and called ableist and slurs and other shit. we weren't even considered "anti endo" at the time, we were just trying to separate ourselves from these people that were causing us harm
this isnt the only horrible experience we had with endos, but some of the other stuff gets a bit personal. but basically, endos did more harm than good to us, and we don't want to associate with them as a result
we're not the only system that's had horrible experiences with endos. they're notorious for sending threats to anti endos, calling them horrible names, etc. we don't support harassment. endos have also told trauma victims that their trauma "wasn't enough" to be DID, and they had to be endo, completely invalidating what that person has gone through and possibly putting them in danger of being re-traumatized/abused again. personally, we didn't even realize we were actively being abused since endos downplayed everything we talked about
so yeah, it's mainly personal to us, but we have a lot of reasons for not supporting endos. we don't interact with their stuff (never on purpose), so we don't want them interacting with our stuff. that's it
