Good Omens and… no, that's it

[nolitimere54]

Aziraphale should have dipped Crowley into a deep and passionate kiss that was fueled by 6000 years of repression right before shooting God in the face with the holy Tommy gun he kept hidden in the hollowed out Bible he stowed under his bed

[dalliancekay]

I wonder if the Finale divide is based on age at all.

RESULT BREAKDOWN BELOW

I've always appreciated that the fandom is old and so the fans come in all age categories.

Please let me know whether you

LIKED GO3 - under 19

LIKED GO3 - 20-39

LIKED GO3 - 40+

DISLIKED GO3 - under 19

DISLIKED GO3 - 20-39

DISLIKED GO3 - 40+

NEUTRAL GO3 - under 19

NEUTRAL GO3 - 20-39

NEUTRAL GO3 - 40+

I didn't watch it

Just nosy/results please

Voting ended onJul 10

If you think this might be interesting, please share.

Now with added quick survey!

Good Omens 3 Survey

I'm curious how different parts of the fandom reacted to Good Omens Season 3. This survey is anonymous and just for fun. I'll post summaries

Please if you can spare 2min let me know your thoughts.

RESULTS

EDIT 1

At 800 votes: (it basically didn't change much from about 200 votes onwards)

Liked: GO3 12.5% Disliked: GO3 59.1% Neutral: 14.1% Didn't watch: 10.7% Results only: 3.7% If I remove the neutral, didn't watch and results only: Liked: 17.5% vs Disliked: 82.5%

EDIT 2

1000 VOTES

Thanks @whitecat007! If I got the calculation right then for those that picked: Like vs Neutral vs Dislike

Under 19: 28.7% vs 22.6% vs 48.7%

20–39: 12.3% vs 15.2% vs 72.4%

40+: 13.9% vs 15.4% vs 70.7%

Edit 3

1600 VOTES

Liked: 3.6 + 7.4 + 4.0 = 15.0% Disliked: 6.1 + 32.4 + 17.3 = 55.8% Neutral: 2.7 + 7.7 + 4.3 = 14.7% Didn't watch: 10.5% Results only: 4.1%

Removing Neutral, Didn't Watch and Results:

Like = 15 Dislike - 55.8

So: Liked: 21.2% vs Disliked: 78.8% Like vs Neutral vs Dislike

Under 19: 29% vs 21.8% vs 49.2%

20–39: 15.6% vs 16.2% vs 68.2%

40+: 15.6% vs 16.8% vs 67.6%

SURVEY

600 VOTES

Liked/Loved: 19.9% Mixed: 16.5% Disliked/Hated: 63.6%

AGE

19 and under: 8.7% vs 21.3% vs 60.0% 20–29: 21.4% vs 18.5% vs 60.1% 30–39: 17.8% vs 13.0% vs 69.2% 40–49: 19.2% vs 12.8% vs 68.0% 50–59: 24.4% vs 17.8% vs 57.8% 60+: 20.7% vs 24.1% vs 55.2%

Surprising that the under 19s in the survey are much more negative than in the tumblr poll. I wonder if the teenagers who hated it were much more likely to click on the survey than those who clicked 'like' on Tumblr poll? The most interesting finding:

Character identification (no of responses) Positive vs Negative opinion on GO3 Aziraphale (209) 23.0% vs 61.7% Both equally (173) 20.8% vs 60.7% Crowley (151) 15.2% vs 68.2%

Those who identify with Crowley more, have hated the finale just that bit more.

Ending 504 fans (85.0%) wanted Aziraphale and Crowley together on Earth as they were. 51 fans (8.6%) were happy with the ending they got.

Conclusion (mine) - I don't think age plays much real difference.

Opinion (also mine) - Like the polls from May you can find here and here and here for example, the 'divide' is about 1/3 vs 2/3rds of people who liked the finale/ending vs who did not.

Mistakes - (definitely mine)

P.S. I shared these polls across platforms and both from about 200 votes were pretty stable. So after the people who follow me (and are more likely to dislike the finale/love Aziraphale), when the polls got wider audience, the numbers stabilised and didn't change more by more than a few percent points (3 at most I think).

[kandelyabr55]

[crushedpolygon]

❤️😇😈 Lineart by @selene-yoshi-chan / color by me

[thisbisexualbrainrot]

And they really thought they ate with this ending like it’s so crazy…

Y’all literally Job’d the fuck out of us.

[casual-kas]

It's a rule - I see it on my dashboard, I reblog

[theonevoice]

Break of Dawn

[letters-to-good-omens]

Letter to the fandom as a whole,

I know we are all having strong opinions right now. I would like to remind you all that we are fighting each other while leaving the terrible people who ruined the story get away with it.

The real villain is not the other fan on the other side of the fandom who you disagree with.

It is the original writer of the script, the new lazy writers who didn't bother doing homework, the cash grabbing merchs that were marketted like an important plot point, the heartless Prime accounts who shared kissing video to hype people up despite there being none of that in the Finale, the ragebaity wallpaper album that included Joshua & AziCrow's moment of annihilation as if that's not images of beloved characters dying...

I can go on.

The big corporation doesn't care, and they are pitting us against each other for views/engagements.

Keep that in mind.

I hope the fandom gets better eventually.

[gleafer]

Aziraphale got the idea when the South Downs retiree book club, Grannies Gone Wilde, chose 50 Shades of Gray to discuss

New tag! Good Omens Season 4

This is after Odin returns them to their original form because their god can “eat a dick.” -said like Matt Berry

[gleafer]

Kiss and make better ❤️

This is from an animatic I illustrated for the lovely Kotias and Nosferatini

https://archiveofourown.org/works/62974534

[spacefruit]

hey so does the #ForTerry shit by finale defenders piss anyone else off? like the endless refrains of “this was for terry! this is the ending he wanted! this was what he planned all along!” in addition to being a pointless argument it’s also exploiting a dead man’s name and reputation to distract from the reality that GO3 was a product of Neil Gaiman and two of his friends. it was right there in the end credits. three writers were listed for the teleplay and only Gaiman was listed for the television story. that’s it!

like whose word are they taking for GO2/3 being from plot discussions for a never-materialized sequel to the book? Neil Gaiman?? Pathological liar and serial abuser Neil Gaiman?? give me a fucking break. as if his general character isn’t enough to make it clear he is not a trustworthy source, the man already lied through his teeth about S1 being the totality of show!omens and switched up the story to justify an obvious cash+attention grab. and some people are still taking his word that this is what he and Pratchett supposedly planned? without a shred of actual concrete evidence? i need them to expeditiously get a fucking grip

and quite frankly I don’t give a shit what anyone on the production team or from the Pratchett Estate has said on the matter. because to be blunt i’m sure it eases the discomfort of having helped produce a Gaiman creation post-2024 to focus on the other co-writer of the book and pretend it was for/inspired by him. as for whatever the Pratchett estate has said, shockingly enough being the executor of an estate does not grant you moral authority nor divine omniscience into a dead person’s thoughts. but i do think Pratchett’s whole “bulldoze my works-in-progress after I die” request sent a pretty fucking clear message that his estate ignored in favor of making money. and they got monkey paw’d by allowing Gaiman to continue writing for, and thereby forever tarnishing the legacy of, something that was at least 75% a Pratchett creation.

it’s whatever if people liked the finale but liking it AND spinning a narrative that obfuscates the ginormous rancid elephant in the room is just plain fucked up. like i get this is a “why were YOU at the devil’s sacrament situation” but at a bare minimum i think being in fandom where the source material’s creator did/does terrible things requires honesty and accountability about that fact, but apparently that’s too much for some good omens fans. this is like the final boss of the internet’s misuse of Death of the Author as a way to ignore difficult issues and pretend a creator’s opinions/biases/ideologies don’t influence their creations. turns out you don’t have to navigate complex moral dilemmas if you just distort reality and refuse to acknowledge said moral dilemmas! who knew!

[hey-must-be-a-devilbetween-us]

the thing...the thing is that...the part that really gets me...

It's that Crowley fell out of love with Aziraphale, I don't know how else I'm supposed to read this characterization I saw on my television screen.

It's part of the just complete thrashing Aziraphale receives in the finale for no fucking reason, but Crowley absolutely does not care to give Aziraphale one fucking inch of compassion or understanding. Even when Aziraphale is asking for it, openly. Standing to the side while God tears Aziraphale to shreds, looking on at it smugly like you seriously want me to believe there is a universe in which Crowley would find satisfaction in Aziraphale being hurt. What The Absolute Fuck.

And then the dream that Crowley has been holding onto for the longest time in the narrative, 'Our Side, A Group of the Two of Us, We'll run away together, We Could have been Us.' is just thrown away.

Crowley gave up on that dream, he was the one in the end to give up on them - which is endlessly ironic given how that's what Aziraphale has been accused of in this fandom since the s2 finale - and asks Aziraphale to give up on it too (for nothing)

And then he sees Aziraphale crying, and see's Aziraphale swallow his words and his pain and you're telling me Crowley isn't interested to hear what Aziraphale is really thinking or feeling at all?

You want me to believe there is a world in which Crowley isn't devastated that Aziraphale is too afraid to say something to him? Of all people?

And frankly, I just don't buy it, I refuse it patently, there is simply no way that Crowley falls out of love with Aziraphale after 6000 years because they had an argument and he got his feelings hurt.

Aziraphale didn't do anything to deserve this treatment from him, he's being a fucking prick, withholding affection and love and forgiveness from someone because they 'wronged you' instead of talking about it is fucking toxic. There is simply no way, that destroys the finales legitimacy in one fell swoop, done deal. That's not Crowley.

[momsspaghetti39]

the thing that makes a good tragedy is that despite the events of the story being preventable, there is a sense that this is the only way it could have gone with the characters the story creates.

this is something that Good Omens 3 completely fails at. Its so annoying to me when people say things along the lines of "this is the only way it could have ended" about the finale because even as a tragedy (which it was not intended to be and is not listed as one if its generas), it is written so poorly that this is not the case. The characters from the book would never have acted the way the characters in the finale did. Crowley is supposed to be an optimist, Aziraphale is supposed to be smart. The choice these characters made in the end is nihilistic and depressing, and doesnt even make sense in the context of the story. There were so many other ways to end things presented in the finale, some of them introduced in the same movie just to be ignored in the end. Jesus could have played a part in the decision, being half god (the one offering the decision) and part human (the ones affected by the decision). Turning a bookshop full of books into hundreds of books of life provides infinite ways for the story to end; the characters can literally choose to write whatever they want into reality. God was apparently willing to do whatever Aziraphale and Crowley wanted, including bringing all the dead humans back to life, so why didnt they ask for anything other than the worst possible option? Especially when the characters are based on thousands of years of tricking people and coming up with creative solutions to get what they want, it makes no sense for them to ignore all their other options and give up. Theres just so many ways the story could have ended, so it makes it cheap and confusing when the characters choose the most tragic ending for no in universe reason, just because the author wanted a sad/bittersweet (theres no sweet in this bitter though) ending.

[obligateweirdo]

I feel strongly that NG never liked the idea of crowley and aziraphale as a romantic couple. I believe he originally just wanted to write crowley and it was TP who convinced him to split that idea into two characters who were foils of each other?

He went along with fans and their fantasies and shipping in the past because he is an expert at getting people to develop parasocial bonds with him. Then, once those bonds have been broken, he turns back on his fake aziracrow enthusiasm and destroys the relationship AND the characters as revenge.

Good thing media belongs to its audience. He may have created these characters, but he does not control them in the minds and hearts of those who have grown to love them. So for me, the official canon ended in S1 (with the flashbacks from S2 included) and the story continues in my mind how I want it to continue.

Hi, Anon!

I just kind of rambled my response to this out, so forgive my scattered thoughts.

While we can’t know his motivations and reasoning for sure, I [sure as heck] see no obvious refutation to any of these statements.

Whatever GO3 was, it will be very hard to convince me it wasn’t done as an act of malice. I think he likes hurting people and I think he mistakes people being upset with his writing for being a good writer.

I believe he wanted to make the story his very own, even if it meant annihilating it. There may have been jealousy involved. I think the weird ways the characters are developed away from their book-selves suggests this.

To me, it’s infuriating to think that we were given an intricate and intriguing S2 just to set us up for being gutted, but I think that’s the case. I’m pretty sure he was heading for the nihilistic ending all along because nihilistic endings are his lodestone. He wanted to be very sure we fell in love with the characters, understood them to be in love, and to expect a triumphantly happy ending before dashing subverting our expectations. (What he thought would happen with his Adoring Parasocial Fanclub after that, though, I have no idea. Maybe he wanted to be the calm soothing voice of wisdom? Shudder.)

I believe there were statements that were made that were against shipping the Ineffable Couple (though if that was going to be a problem maybe they shouldn’t have held hands and been referred to as a “couple” in the book), though I don’t know what they were, exactly, and I’m not gonna look for them. Since I strongly believe he was going for the universe reset ending from the time he decided to do an S2, the question in my mind is, was it made worse or more brutal as a punishment to an “unfaithful” fandom?

It is entirely possible. The careful reactions we’ve seen from the actors (who knew the projected ending from the start) suggest to me that it was, somehow, altered to be more hopeless—but that may also be an artifact of the clumsy editing from 6 episodes to one.

At any rate, in the end, I too believe S1 was the real thing and everything following was fanfiction. And you’re right: there may be legal rights to those characters, but the entire human history of myth and legend says they’re OURS. They broke the bonds of fiction and have the sort of autonomy that great characters like Sherlock Holmes and Fionn mac Cumhaill andThor have achieved—they are greater than the stories their authors originally told and can live beyond the time and means of their invention.

Long life to ‘em.

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