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I am built small and afraid - Endos and Racists DNI

[uncleromeo]

if you don't do anything else today,

Please have a moment of silence for the people who were killed instead of freed when news of emancipation finally reached the furthest corners of the american south.

have another moment for the ledgers, catalogs, and records that were burned and the homes that were destroyed to hide the presence of very much alive and still enslaved people on dozens of plantations and homesteads across the south for decades after emancipation.

and have a third moment for those who were hunted and killed while fleeing the south to find safety across the border, overseas, in the north and to the west.

black people. light a candle, write a note to those who have passed telling them what you have achieved in spite of the racist and intolerant conditions of this world, feel the warmth of the flame under your hand, say a prayer of rememberance if you are religious, place the note under the candle, and then blow it out.

if you have children, sit them down and tell them anything you know about the life of oldest black person you've ever met. it doesn't have to be your own family. tell them what you know about what life was like for us in the days, years, decades after emancipation. if you don't know much, look it up and learn about it together.

This is Juneteenth.

white people CAN interact with this post. share it, spread it.

[anti-willo-solivan]

if you are not a RAMCOA/OEA survivor, you do not get to insert yourself into those conversations and tell victims they're being "elitists". talking about how bad our trauma was doesn't automatically mean we're competing in some secret trauma olympics or saying we're better than other victims of standard abuse. Oh, and here's the definition of elitism.

"ELITISM: the belief or attitude that a select group of individuals—those with exceptional wealth, intellect, power, or specialized education—deserve more authority, influence, or privileges than the rest of society."

[anti-willo-miku]

"no safe spaces for hate!" and its cdd systems wanting their own spaces away from people that are non-disordered in general. anti-endos I've seen are generally people who don't hate endogenic systems, but are looking for community away from someone they can't relate to on a personal level.. online disinhibition and mission-driven intrusions wont win against spaces meant for US.

I’ve always thought that there are no truly safe “mixed spaces” when it comes to endos and pwcdds. Even if they were real, I can’t relate to them, and they can’t relate to me. Theres no need for us to share community, not when looking at cdds from an endogenic lens is inherently harmful

[fiirstaid]

being happy while having a disorder and "this disorder is so fun!!!" arent the same thing

[whyyoushouldbeantiendo]

You should be Anti-Endo because Endogenics trying to enter system spaces is part of the problem.

I don’t think systems can stress enough that we would all probably not care as much about Endos if they didn’t claim to have alters and be in a system.

Making systemhood seem fun when it’s a symptom of a larger disorder caused by trauma is not helping the CDD community, it is making it harder to fight misinformation.

(☕️Risa - @lets-talk-about-cdds )

This is why you should be anti-endo.

[anti-willo-miku]

sees a terrible take

looks in the tags

#op is transid

fork found in kitchen

[anti-willo-miku]

Even bringing up the possibility of someone being endo is a form of fakeclaiming. It ignores the symptoms that the questioning pwCDD is having and might even reaffirm their belief that nothing is truly wrong with them, which is dangerous and will make their symptoms worse in the long run.

It's essentially saying that "it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, but there's no way it's a duck." because obviously, a random stranger online can determine whether or not you were traumatized. /s

That's why I really wouldn't recommend online spaces for those who are questioning, this is not to say that support spaces cannot be helpful because they absolutely can, but misinformation runs rampant in sys spaces. I'm speaking as a gatekeeper who's system was exposed to these communities at a young age. I think it's really important to be careful about it.

Nobody wants to stomach the possibility that they have potentially repressed trauma, and I admit that I empathize with it. But endogenic "systems" encouraging questioning systems to deny that possibility is invalidating many experiences and also making it so they cannot consider other disorders as well. It's anti-recovery all around and it's sad to see.

100%. I consider saying you’re a “mixed-origin” cdd system self fakeclaiming as well.

i have a role idea similar to that in which an alter holds incorrect beliefs about the systems formation (ex: a pwcdd who has an alter who thinks the system is willo or endogenic) because that can genuinely be harmful to actual systems.. unfortunately the endos would come for my ass

[assignedmale]

[anti-willo-miku]

do endos know what ableism means…

[the-io-collective]

a lot of ppl are mad at me for saying "your entire system shares a brain" and i think that says smth abt sysblr.

[the-io-collective]

"you aren't owed kindness from the entire system just bc some of us are your friends" WRONG!

1. people are allowed to be upset if you're mean to them.

2. holy dodging system accountability.

3. you're all the same brain. it's actually normal to expect your friends to be nice to you.

4. if you're consistently a jerk to your friends and dodge it with "well that PART doesn't like you" you're sort of an asshole. that person deserves decency. handle it within your system mayhaps.

idk just. my bf read this post out to me and holy entitled.

[verrucktsystem]

Can non natives stop fucking using two spirit. Yes even if you’re indigenous to Somewhere Else. 2s is for turtle island natives, I’m sure your own culture(s) has/have their own third or more genders. Go do research on those and stop appropriating native shit. Thanks.

[crashpinata]

stupid ass endos will never know what it feels like to spend years of your life heavily dissociated. to not remember any of the good memories, only bits and pieces of the troubles that traumatized you. to forget your own friends and family. to never feel real. to spend days blurry because of high stress.

i will never not say that they are a mockery.

this is a disorder. not a game. not an identity. it is a trauma based dissociative disorder.

and it is NOT fun. I'll tell you that for free.

if you think endos are doing nothing wrong by constantly trying to push real systems out of their own spaces, invading others spaces, harassing children and trauma survivors alike then laughing when they are actually negatively affected by what you did? you probably need help. a reality check, if you will.

CDDs aren't. fun.

they are NOT something you can CHOOSE.

endos&co are nothing more than a mockery of everything real systems are and have been through.

get a real hobby. get a life.

otherwise you will soon find that you will die alone, because no one wants to be around people who make the world about them. it will be sad, sure. but we'll deserved.

the only sad part? most won't realize they've lived their lives wrong until it is too late.

—a blurry tired sys who just woke up

[anti-willo-hannibal]

“Syscourse” is not a real thing. There are people who have a disorder caused by extreme and/or repeated trauma in childhood, and there are people who are pretending or convincing themselves that they have one of the defining symptoms of a trauma disorder without any trauma to cause it.

And before an endo says “I have trauma too, it just didn’t cause my system”: If it was before the age of 9, and you truly are a system, then that’s what caused it. If it did not happen in young childhood, then you either do dissociate and possibly have dissociative amnesia which makes you think you’re a system, or you’re trying to use your trauma to deflect from the fact that you are not a system. This is an appeal to pity fallacy combined with an ad hominem attack.

(Appeal to Pity: Using emotion, sympathy, or past suffering to bypass logic and force someone to agree with you or drop their point.

Ad Hominem: Attacking the other person’s character, tone, or perceived "meanness" for bringing up an issue, rather than addressing the substance of their argument.

DARVO (Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender): A common manipulative deflection tactic where someone denies the criticism, attacks the person criticizing them, and then reverses the roles so they appear to be the actual victim.)

[prisimatic-loupine]

I wanted to talk about some hard truths about Littles in online spaces that we tend to ignore.

For context; my system is very little heavy. I would say we’re about 1 to 3 in the Adults to Little Ratio- with about 16 of those littles being active fronters. I have a very loud opinions on littles for this reason. I’m going to alternate things from Little specific hard truths and then internet safety for littles hard truths.

First things first; Littles in Adult systems without a way to make friends are lonely. An in system friendship is different from an out of system friendship. Unless you have a group of system friends you trust and talk to often, most littles don’t have a chance to make friends safely.

Secondly, Online Little Spaces are not a safe place for littles to make friends. The uncomfortable truth is that there are people who suck and are fully willing to take advantage of a little for their own sexual gratification. I see a lot of people being mad when on Discord, littles aren’t allowed to talk. However, the reason it’s in place is because Discord Servers can’t protect the littles from harm until it’s too late.

Following up the second point, Littles can be sexual holders. Sometimes it’s a role a little HAS to fill to keep the system safe. Being uncomfortable is valid, but denying that it exists ignores the trauma someone had to go through for that to happen. If it makes you uncomfortable, that’s normal, but what we AREN’T going to do is call Sexual Holder Littles nonexistent or the problem.

Fourth on the list, treating every little online like a little uwu baby is part of the problem, but LETTING your most vulnerable littles and middles talk in online chats is also part of the problem. Some parts need babysitting- that in itself is okay, but public online spaces is not the place to get babysitting! I would never leave my littles alone with a stranger much less a bunch of strangers.

And finally, I have seen a lot of folks online treat their littles with a sort of abandon. Like “Oh, I don’t understand my little, they’re so weird and quirky!” or “Oh my god, my little is such an uwu little guy” Hey folks, talk to your littles. They’re a member of the system too. A lot of your confusion around your littles could be solved by asking them questions to help them find the words to explain it to you. And, a lot of littles are extremely articulate! Bragging online that you aren’t able to understand your littles is weird! If you don’t understand, ask! If they can’t communicate or aren’t yet, keep working on it! Don’t just laugh at them and move on. Your brain didn’t split this guy for no reason, think about why it happened and engage with them.

I don’t know how to end this post. Maybe something something, Alter age isn’t real, but not listening to littles sure is something something if your part is vulnerable stop letting them be in dangerous situations.

[sysfreak-official]

"if youre anti endo you should read pluralpedia and educate yourself" pluralpedia has pages like "mcdonaldsgenic" and "sillyratsgenic" and you want me to view it as a credible scientific source? really?

[kaiissillyingmeowmeow]

Even if science largely links structural dissociation to trauma, "plurality" can exist outside of a pathological framework.

IT IS SCIENTIFICALLY CORRECT, to be a system without trauma. However, you CANNOT have OSDD or DID. Because the criteria specifically states that these Mental ilnesses need trauma to develop.

This does NOT mean that Systems without OSDD and DID are not valid. Theyre also systems, and the brain can do weird things sometimes.

Validity of Experience: Plurality is a subjective experience of identity, not a "fake" disorder. If multiple, distinct personas operate within one body, that experience is real to them, regardless of its origin.

Diverse Origins: While many systems are formed through trauma (traumagenic), others can form through natural, spiritual, or voluntary processes (endogenic), such as tulpamancy or spontaneous creation.

Beyond Diagnosis: Medical models focus on diagnosing distress (DID/OSDD), but "not disordered" does not mean "not real." Plurality can exist without the impairment.

in conclusion : all systems are valid, lets frollick through the fields tg twin :3

[sysfreak-official]

I'm actually really glad that you reblogged this with these points because it really highlights the biggest issues with the endo community as a whole to me: they force their experiences to be comparable to disordered experiences when they really aren't.

there is no "scientifically correct" way to be a system without trauma because there are no verified scientific studies that even entertain the possibility that nondisordered plurality can exist. the only studies done on nondisordered plurality are sociological studies that merely observe the way the community works and documents their beliefs. that's what nondisordered plurality is; it's a belief, not any tangible thing that can be proven or disproven. it exists similar to a religion, where there's no way to prove the existence of a god but there's also no way to disprove it in turn. the entire concept exists outside of the scope of proper scientific analysis and therefore would never be described as "scientifically correct/incorrect" in any regard.

and see, I don't mind nondisordered plurality as a belief. I don't mind there being people who view themselves as plural due to some sort of spiritual belief or what have you. but when a community centered around a belief system tries to force their experiences and their belief to be not only comparable to a medical experience, but to even attempt to replace said medical experience with spirituality or personal belief? (see "natural multiplicity movement" which made an attempt to have CDDs removed from the DSM entirely.) that's where we have an issue. systemhood is a disordered experience. system terminology is medical terminology specifically used for those with CDDs. using this medical terminology while claiming your experiences are not medical in nature and are instead a result of a belief is extremely contradictory and, frankly, quite idiotic in concept. that is the issue I have with these communities, not their belief on its own.

if endogenic communities were their own entirely separate space that didn't intend on encroaching on spaces made for disordered people, I would not be nearly as aggressively against them as I am now. the issue isn't what they believe, it's how they're using that belief to further oppress those who are already oppressed due to being disordered. I simply cannot ignore that aspect to their community, let alone lend my support to them despite it.

[starry-night-collective]

HAPPY PRIDE MONTH EVERYGAYYYY