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Excuse me for no reason I just need to keep a master list of all the men we know Liam has snogged.

1. His brother Noel

2. Bono

3. Bonehead

4. Nicky Wire (Manics)

5. Fran Healey (Travis)

6. Roberto Mancini

7. Simon Fowler (Ocean Colour Scene)

8. Randomass security guard

9. Randomass police man.

10. Journalist Brian Boyd

Amended because I forgot Bono. How did I forget Bono when these pics exist?

* amended again because I forgot about Simon.

#Liam Gallagher #He likes kissing men and I think it is beautiful #He especially likes kissing men called Noel #But let's not talk about that #Nicky wire #noel gallagher #Bono #U2 #Oasis #Manics #Travis

whatwwaa

oh youth...

#bernard butler #brett anderson #suede

armydreamerr

see the reason why holden’s threesome proposition is so terrible is because he doesn’t want to have sex with banky. it’s not that he’s greedy and he wants both alyssa and banky at the same time. it’s awful because he’s trying to use banky to kill two birds with one stone, and he doesn’t even want him. he wants the threesome to patch up his relationship with both people, but in his relationship with alyssa, banky’s just a tool, and in his relationship with banky, it’s clearly just a pity fuck.

proudandangrydust

Yeah I don’t know about this. He does admit to being attracted to Banky too, not to the same extent and he certainly isn’t in love with Banky in the way Banky is him but there is definitely some degree of unresolved sexual tension between them.

Watching it back I noticed how often Holden touches Banky in quite a casually intimate way. Like the scene when they are at their art tables and Holden starts rubbing his hand up and down Banky’s back (and then starts pretending to ride him 😅) like Holden come on! You just know Banky was in hell.

But that is kind of the point of Chasing Amy. No one is 100% hetero in that film. Everyone in the film exists on a spectrum of sexuality to a greater or lesser extent.

When Ben Affleck talks about being mad at himself for freaking out about kissing Jason Lee he explains that it’s not just embarrassment at being more uncomfortable than he expected to be but also because he didn’t do the moment justice. The kiss as it stands works for what you say, but Ben feels like it was supposed to be and should have been more intimate and revealing of a moment. Which tracks with what Holden says about also being attracted to Banky.

But ultimately yeah he was being really fucking selfish either way. Either he is a 100% straight dude wanting to use his friend to impress a girl or he is a mostly staright dude wanting to use his friend to experiment and test himself. Both scenarios treat Banky and his sexuality as a prop. Like he outed his friend in a really uncomfortable and traumatic way and for what?

#chasing amy #ben affleck #Jason Lee #Banky Edwards #Holden McNeill

jonny-versace

I wonder if people didn’t really question John’s identity when he first showed up because they’re like, oh? Jack Sugden had illegitimate children? Yeah, that tracks.

But it doesnt! Jack was almost obsessive about Sarah, and Robert was right, he took Andy in after seeing the conditions Andy was in. And I'm supposed to believe hed blank another son? And also, sadly very few people left in the village wouldve met Jack. And yes, he had the affair with Rachel, which scarred mine own eyeballeths, but this idea he had a love child just doesnt track and i refuse point blank to accept John into canon, not as a robron shipper, but as a Sugden loyalist

proudandangrydust

But he already had one love child, Jackie so actually it does track. John was conceived with someone he was dating (all be it for a short time) not an affair.

coolthingsguyslike

#jason lee #skateboarding #90s

real-odark

do u think kevin smith said ok guys dont be gay please and jason lee and ben affleck were like easy you got it man and then went and did the most sexually charged scene in cinema

proudandangrydust

On the commentary track Kevin he basically got told by the studio to make the film less homoerotic so he had to cut a whole bunch of stuff. This and Brodie spooning and touching up TS is some of what he slipped through.

#but what footage did we lose Kevin??? 🤨#give it to us you coward #Brodie Bruce #Mallrats #Jason Lee #Ben Affleck #they can’t help themselves #kevin smith

mallratsys

Straight people aren't allowed to like Banky Edwards.

#Banky is for the queers and the queers only #Banky Edward’s #chasing amy

hardliquorrr

Banky and Hooper's first date was going to the comic book store and reading a shit ton of Archie Comics.

#legit that’s where it started #the subplot we deserved to see #my head canon is that after Banky was traumatically outed by Holden Hooper being a good person came over to check on him and things got deep #emotionally that was not a euphemism #but yeah that too #Banky Edward’s #Hooper X #chasing Amy

John and Paul this, Pete and Carl that…I’m sorry but can we focus for just one second on the fact that Ben Affleck and Matt Damon had a joint bank account?

#ben affleck #matt Damon #which could mean nothing #even mclennon weren’t that codependent #mclennon

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#ben affleck #addiction #childhood trauma #Matt Damon

anotherkindofmindpod

Hey lovely AKOM folks! Belated Happy Easter — and thank you for all the recent content! 🙌

Forgive me if this is off-topic, but I wanted to get something off my chest...

Re: why some of us aren’t exactly enamoured with Ian Leslie — I find the guy problematic. Not so much because of his views on John and Paul (though I do think it’s fair to ask questions about an established journalist — a straight, white, cishet man – with a publishing contract, drawing so heavily on the unpaid work of others).

But what properly bothers me if I’m honest is his politics.

For instance, I still remember his past, casually mocking reference to Jeremy Corbyn and Imagine with the line: “Corbynism, one interminable John Lennon song.”

Or the way he criticised mild-mannered sports pundit Gary Lineker (no radical he) for speaking out against the previous government’s “immeasurably cruel” asylum policies on social media.

Leslie’s response? “I don’t understand why Lineker can’t just accept the restriction. Why is it of vital importance that the world hear his political views?” Which kind of misses the point, imho.

As a Brit, I guess I’m especially sensitive to this kind of aggro-centrist energy. These voices dominate our politics right now, and they often seem to take real pleasure in punching down — on the left, on young people, on trans rights, on pro-Palestine activists, and so on.

So when I see Leslie’s stances, it honestly makes me question his ability to empathise with John Lennon — or even with the Paul McCartney who wrote Give Ireland Back to the Irish. (“Sir Paul” is another matter.)

And then it’s jarring because Leslie’s everywhere at the moment! Even in the sacred spaces. Even in the Beatles podcasts I turn to as a bit of refuge from the world. ☹️

And I am trying to be thoughtful about this (honest!). I get that one of the beautiful (and yes, sometimes frustrating) things about Beatles fandom is how broad that church is. There’s space for the outsiders and the insiders, the psychedelic dreamers, the rock purists, the avant-garde heads — and for us peace-and-love crew too.

I’ve listened to your previous interview with Leslie, and I’ll admit — he makes some good points. I’ll probably buy his book too. Who am I kidding. Sigh. Of course I will.

And I do know The Beatles were complicated — deeply problematic in their own ways. But still, it’s hard when people claim to love them, yet seem unmoved by the deep empathy that runs through so much of their work. The “peace and love” stuff really matters to some of us. A lot. ❤️✌️

That’s one reason why I value AKOM so much. I feel my kind of Beatles spirit here — that messy, meaningful mix of art, politics, and empathy.

Anyway. Rant over.

Thanks for reading. And thanks for never shying away from difficult topics. I really and truly admire you for it. And I’m grateful.

Hello Listener,

Thank you so much for this lovely message! Your words of appreciation and encouragement mean so much to us!!!

First off, just to clarify: Ian Leslie has never been a guest on AKOM. [anon, I saw your second ask correcting yourself on this note! :) just wanted to clarify for readers]

Secondly, we are also deeply troubled by his anti-trans rhetoric. Obviously everyone has the right to their own opinion and the right to speak their mind on topics of the day. But we are a podcast comprised of queer women, all ardent supporters/defenders of our trans friends and family. We find anti-trans rhetoric to be not just actively, demonstrably harmful to real human beings, but also just incredibly stupid on its face.

Since we’re not interested in having a 'trans debate' on AKOM, and would be incapable of pretending we are unaware of Mr Leslie’s views, we therefore have no intention of inviting him on AKOM.

That said, we have bought his book and plan to (eventually) read it. We absolutely respect the decision of fans to buy or boycott it as they see fit, and don’t wish to convince anyone either way.

All of our interactions with Mr. Leslie have been friendly and mutually respectful, and as I (Phoebe) said in an earlier episode of AKOM, I personally have enjoyed his previous writing on John and Paul. I’m pleased that the book is doing well because it is spreading the story of John and Paul to a larger audience (although of course we don't agree with all his opinions on the subject). Although we certainly don’t wish him any ill will, we DO wish that he would reconsider his anti-trans views and reconsider the effects of his (many, many) words on the subject.

All of this to say: we don’t think AKOM is the best platform for him to promote his book. Fortunately he can be heard on numerous other podcasts!

We will continue doing what we do here at AKOM (deep research and thorough discussion in attempt to uncover new angles) for as long as we can find the time and energy.

Thanks so much for your support!! P.S. we've received multiple similar asks about Leslie's new book and if we intend to have him on the show. Hopefully this response can serve as a general response to those asks as well.

#akom #ian leslie #the Beatles

johnron

So I am excited about Robron but actually I'm still on the Mackron train right now.

I just think that if Robert really is only back for a short stint, it will be to tie up loose ends. That's my pessimist side coming out.

But that article about big things coming up for Mack and Aaron? Life-changing things? That's got me optimistic.

proudandangrydust

There aren’t any lose ends. The producer wants Ryan back full time and Robron together. She isn’t going to close that door.

csnk

Although, of course, now I’m not sure that the idea of playing a gay character would be welcomed, or I might be aversive to that because I don’t want to offend anyone in this direction.

Ben Affleck on Chasing Amy Making Ben Affleck Talk About Every Film He's Ever Done | GQ

#I told would loose my shit and have an existential crisis if I had to kiss prime Jason Lee #chasing Amy #ben affleck #jason lee

imasonictonic

Liam Gallagher at Glastonbury, 2004.

e-lizabear

liam looked so fucking fit that night that when noel was asked why their glastonbury 2004 gig was disappointing, this parka was the only evidence he submitted in his defense