[quoivesil]

male positivity posts: :)

male "positivity" posts tagged "trad men" which insinuate you're not meeting your full potential as a man unless something something social obligations: hm.

[permanenteclipse]

This post is in celebration of the autistics who:

Have self-destructive, loud, annoying or ‘gross’ stims and are tired of the “excited flappy hands and cute rocking” trope.

Meltdown or have a rage response instead of shutdown and are tired of people who shutdown getting more support and sympathy.

Are genuinely low, selective or fluctuating empathy and are tired of the overdone “actually that’s a false stereotype, most autistics have TOO much empathy!” line.

Have flat affect, are unexpressive and stiff, and are tired of people expecting them to be otherwise because they keep hearing that it can be an autism thing to be super animated and cheerful.

Have ‘boring,’ weird, disturbing or obscure special interests and are tired of cartoons, kids’ books and video games being the face of autism.

Are nonverbal, non-speaking, semiverbal or semi-speaking, or use AAC, and are tired of other autistic people constantly reassuring allistics that autistics can totally be hyperverbal and pass as neurotypical.

Actually don’t get jokes or sarcasm, and are tired of being left behind because “no no that’s just a stereotype, autistic people actually do get sarcasm” is constantly touted.

Are intellectually disabled and are tired of the cliché of the autistic supergenius.

Have comorbid conditions beyond ADHD and generalized anxiety like personality disorders or OCD or psychosis and are tired of their experience never being acknowledged.

Are physically disabled, gender nonconforming, or a person of color, and are tired of every autistic character being another boring asshole white guy.

Are tired of getting thrown under the bus in the current wave of “radical autism acceptance” because it’s less about acceptance and more about making sure allistics know we can look neurotypical.

Are tired.

[quoivesil]

Reminder:

Identity is not mandatory. Having a neat, clearly-defined identity should not be what a community's acceptance hinges on.

[with-5-names-deactivated2025013]

The lion's awoken with the energy to write out what he feels since word gets around fast in headspace of someone intentionally going "Kintypes can never be human" to bring up old discourse.

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I'm an anthro lion headmate. But I've also got a human kintype and experience species dysphoria when in shifts in headspace.

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So many people don't realize that situations like mine exist. But, otherkin as itself is a very human-based concept. If it depends on the user having a human body to be considered otherkin, I don't. The body is shared. It is not my body. But that should not be what makes one otherkin.

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Lots of otherkin still have connections to humanity, but the community does not recognize that humans are animals too. Humans are just animals kept in an extremely stressful environment and social structure daily. A big component of why humans are not seen as animals in the US is fundamentalist christianity being absorbed into the general cultural ideas of the country. It has been for some time, not even just recently.

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I honestly think the constant villainization of humanity as inherently dysphoric or evil is what keeps this discourse alive. Ecofascist ideas are not unknown to burrow in the community and stay there. Maybe the community needs to recognize that humanity is not inherently dysphoric for everyone in order to be able to grow and combat these ideas and the posts that claim that humans are the problem in the world.

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I have more euphoric experiences from being recognized as a human in a lion's skin than just a lion. My kintypes have more in common than human fictionkin than nonhuman kintypes. But, I'm not fictionkin. I'm a meatspace human inside.

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People do not consider cases like mine or others that are similar when discussing the community. They don't know we exist, or if they do, they keep quiet about us because it harms their argument.

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We deserve a seat at the table because of how identity is complicated. You do not need to throughly understand my experience in order to see that I still belong in the community because of the common traits I share with others.

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(Just as an addition, I stole Panty's idea to add periods because Tumblr just hates adding spaces between paragraphs and it makes it difficult to read otherwise.)

- JC

[sysmon]

There’s this post in the kin tag talking about punk-kin and being uh… not the brightest on it, but I’m thinking shit. kinpunk would be really cool 

Like something about 

Rejection of human social norms 

Embracing abnormal experiences 

Embracing abnormal not human behaviors 

Wearing makeup to look nonhuman, wearing tails, etc 

The use of cosplay too in a fictionkin sense 

Trying to do good in the world on the basis you’re not from it 

etc… 

Sort of like voidpunk but for people who actually identify as nonhuman, or maybe alterpunk/ahpunk (alterhuman) to be more broad. 

The person who originally posted it was talking about “kin who break stereotypes” but I feel like kinpunk would be people who actually fit the stereotypes. People who make nonhuman vocalizations, who make themselves look nonhuman, who are eccentric about having a strange or unusual identity, etc. Just being unashamed to be what you are and expressing it. 

In terms of rejecting gatekeeping, that should be a thing too, but not “people can pick their kintypes”. I mean accepting fictionkin from weird sources, objectkin, conceptkin, and so on. 

[vagabond-sun]

we’ve had conversations about something like this in alt+h! and like, as much as i want to say ‘alterhuman’ already is all that… like, on the one hand, the word was coined by people with certain ideologies and is generally used by people with certain ideologies, on the other hand, i don’t think it’s the best idea to say you have to believe certain things and take certain stances to use an identity-word, so i see the logic behind wanting words to describe those ideas and potential movements as a separate thing.

and y’know, clearly other people think similarly, if other people are having this idea too. and coming up with a lot of the same points! so i figured i’d include some of the conversation on alt+h abt it under the cut for interest’s sake.

(tl;dr for anyone who doesn’t want to read beyond this point: the idea started pretty much identically to what OP stated, and as we explored it we found that it had areas where it expanded beyond the boundaries of alterhuman identity per se. we talked about calling it ontopunk, both because of this and issues with ‘alter-’ as a prefix. there are some good ideas in here, and they don’t necessarily need to be only for otherkin and alterhumans!)

Keep reading

[permanenteclipse]

QUOIPUNK

Embracement of quoi- for whatever identities it can apply to. Not queer-exclusive. So this post is for people who are quoiromantic, quoisexual, quoigender, quoigenic, quoiluntary, or any other quoi- label or combination of.

“Quoi” implies a critical look at how a community is defining its options and what room it allows for pushback against binaries and strict categories. You don’t have to take on a quoi- label to ask these questions: Is it necessary for the aspec community to divide its members along a scale from “most” to “least”? Is it good for the plural community to expect from its members a singular reason why they exist? You don’t have to call yourself quoigender specifically to ask “do I really have to label myself with one of these pre-defined words when gender is such a complicated and nebulous concept anyways?”

If you don’t know, that’s fine. You don’t have to know. Knowing the name for your feelings is not a requirement for having them.

If you don’t care, that’s fine. You don’t have to choose a label ever if you don’t want to and you certainly don’t have to tell other people what you chose. Your acceptance within a community should not hinge on telling them all everything about you.

Not gay as in happy but queer as in fuck you.

Not questioning as in “ask me again tomorrow” but quoi as in “what are you, a cop?”

You know what’s cool as hell? Saying “fuck you” to the dictionary definition. Bisexual lesbians. MLM trans women. People who pick “all of the above” on every form. Autistics with alexithymia and borderlines with no identity stability and anyone else who might never know. Plural systems who are formed by trauma and also not formed by trauma at the same time. People who contradict themselves and own it. That's what quoipunk is here for. Even if they don’t identify as quoi. Quoipunk is also here for self-determination.

Literally too cool to care 😎

[eldritchpolymorph]

Having thoughts about how the alterhuman community centers the otherkin "it's a past life" and "I'm a nonhuman soul that was misplaced/reincarnated in a human body" narratives at the expense of everyone else.

Pause for a moment and think. When did you last see another narrative of alterhumanity? What was it?

If I had to hazard a guess, it was something like "I grew up this way because of neurodivergence/trauma/imprinting/etc." It's the most visible psychological narrative, and even that is uncommon to see anymore. Other psychological narratives and explanations exist. Why aren't they as visible?

Spiritual narratives suffer for it as well. All the spiritual folks who don't fit those two paradigms are drowned out and apparently forgotten. The folks who fit under an established religion, or who have an alternative spiritual explanation with nothing to do with souls, or any number of other variations that aren't "I'm a nonhuman soul in a human body" are practically invisible.

And all of this doesn't even begin to cover how other forms of alterhumanity might not ascribe to either explanation, or how some folks choose not to explain it at all. Alterhumanity is a lot more diverse than past lives and reincarnation and animal souls. It's a broad umbrella covering many, many experiences and labels.

[eldritchpolymorph]

I suspect these narratives are the most visible because they're are the most palatable for non-alterhuman folks. They can understand them more easily than something less visible, can reason it away under mostly-accepted spiritual practice, and let it be.

Someone saying "I'm nonhuman because I've always wanted to be, so I decided I was. I'm not human by choice." or "I'm physically nonhuman. This isn't psychological or spiritual, just how my body is." or "Other people associated this animal with me so often that I started seeing myself that way too" or any number of other explanations isn't quite so acceptable. Just about every community I've seen falls victim to some level of acceptability politics or implicit appeal to the norms of those not in the community, and I think alterhumanity is no exception. It's something to watch out for.

[wirefive]

shoutout to arthropod kins, sea creature kins who are invertebrates/sessile, those of you with extinct kintypes, those of you (including otherkin) with domesticated kintypes, objectkin, emotionkin, conceptkin, and those of you who don’t even like your kintypes. ily

[inthesparklingshadow]

food kin , song kin , place kin :)

identity good . love

[actias-android]

Thanks for the reply to Dove, just wanted to say that as a young and new to the community person I find the need for otherkin to be an involuntary identity a bit scary? As in, what if I simply don't know whether it's voluntary or not? I liked foxes for almost as long as I can remember and they feel connected to my nonhuman identity. But did I like them because I was already connected to them in a way or did I connect to them because I like them? And why is it so important? Why can't I just *be*?

Right? Like, for a whole lot of people, it's a chicken and egg question. Am I attracted to this identity because it is my identity, or is this my identity because I'm attracted to this identity? And honestly...it isn't that important, at least as far as whether or not you fit into a community. If you can't immediately say, yeah nah I'm just doing this for a laugh, then you probably aren't just doing it for a laugh, and even if somehow later you decide you aren't that identity anymore, or you decide you were wrong in the first place...so? That's okay too. Change over time is the normal state of affairs and not something to be feared for "invalidating" you somehow. This is a thing I really wish gatekeepers would just get through their heads: they actively drive away new and potential community members who would have fit in just fine, found support, and contributed new ideas and energy to the overall group. It's a shame and a huge loss for everyone.

Identity really can actually just be circular. Your identity can turn around and eat its own tail without you ever noticing, and now you like foxes because you're a fox because you like foxes because you're a fox because you like foxes because you're a fox ad infinitum. This harms literally nobody. It's just a weird little perpetual motion machine of foxes all the way down and that's totally alright.

And I think it's woefully understated what role social choice plays in identity. Even fitting into a community and adopting others' takes on what definitions mean is going to shape and guide and, yes, change your identity. Calling yourself otherkin (or any community label) is a 100% voluntary step towards being otherkin. I would even argue that you cannot be otherkin unless you choose to do so, because it's not a default state or neutral understanding of the self, it's a voluntary position.

But, to put your mind at rest, if you are sincere in saying that you are other-than-human in some way, and that this is important to your understanding of yourself, and you feel that otherkin is the label for what you're experiencing, then boom, you are otherkin. It's really that simple and overcomplicating it isn't doing anyone any favors.

But also, remember that for all that it's the "big label" and the number of gatekeepers over the years has made it seem like it must be the sacred pinnacle of nonhumanity, it's just another label, and you don't need it to be a Real Valid Nonhuman either. You don't even need it to associate with the broader otherkin community. You can just do that anyway, and nobody worth giving the time of day will make a fuss about it.

[burningangel-burninghead]

Friendly reminder to treat linkers like they are what they say they are and to quit emphasizing that they know they're not REALLY thier identity when you try to explain them.

Even though it's a chosen identity, it's still an identify-as term and community. I feel like linkers don't really get taken seriously by the community at large because they're "just roleplaying" even if they're attempting ego alteration by being one.

[burningangel-burninghead]

[b0nob0]

Are You an Ape Therian?

Related to earthenhart’s Deer Therian post, I thought just for fun I’d write up a few notes about ape therianthropy, as I guess I’m a bit of a trailblazer when it comes to it. I’m not saying that I’m the first, but I am one of the only ones (if not the only one) around here.

As we know, therianthropy is about an identity, and not necessarily a connection. If it were based on connection alone, everyone would be therian/otherkin. Hashtag Not All Therians feel connected to their kintype, it’s worth it to note – and it’s also worth it to say that no one can tell you what your identity is or is not, it’s up to you to define for yourself. 

All this said, I feel incredibly connected to my theriotypes and that was useful in determining my identity, so if you’re questioning your potential non-homo sapiens sapiens primate nature, read on.

Keep reading

[a-dragons-journal]

Hihi! Im new to the community! I recently found out that I was otherkin! I have a question regarding coping, I do Believe that I am my kintype but I also do feel like it’s also partially a coping mechanism as well, would I still be considered otherkin or would I be a copinglink??

Hey! So, an answer in three parts:

A) Copinglink specifically means you intentionally, consciously chose to become nonhuman/fictional (ie, "voluntary identity"). If that is not what happened, you are not a 'linker by definition.

B) Unconscious/involuntary coping mechanisms have been a well-known and accepted explanation for otherkinity for longer than I've been a part of this community.

C) Personally, I'm of the opinion that even if you chose to become nonhuman, as long as it's not an "I can pick up and drop this whenever I want to" thing, if you feel "otherkin" fits better than "copinglinker" for whatever reason, you're free to use the term. The distinction is, for a lot of people, not super helpful.

Hopefully that helps?

[felis-vapula]

Human+

I've kinda seen a couple people use this term casually, but afaik there's no actual definition or symbols or anything. I really identify with it, so I figured I'd make some!

Human plus is an alterhuman identity where one is human as well as something else, or human but also more than human somehow, or anything along those lines. Basically, it's when one is human, but that's not all.

The definition is loose on purpose. There's no wrong way to identify with this term; I don't like gatekeeping, and I didn't even invent the term, so it'd be kinda silly to tell people how they can use it.

For me, that means I'm human plus cat, since I'm dualspecies. Human is my primary species identity, but it's not all I am.

The symbol I came up with is pretty simple: just a human palm with a plus sign cut out of it. It's 100% free to use; credit is appreciated but not required, as long as you don't claim you made it. You're also free to change it, or remake it if you can do better than me, as long as, again, you don't take credit for the original design/idea.

[girl001]

>i sit on a throne and people come up to me one by one displaying different items

>with each item i yell out "yonic" or "phallic" and then wave them away to a door to the left or right of me (depending on whether its yonic or phallic)

>guy comes up with an item thats too difficult to label as yonic or phalic

>i pull a lever to the right of me that opens a trap door under his feet sending him to fall miles down to his death as we are in my floating cloud castle

>categorizing continues as normal

[alterhuman-culture-is]

paleotherian culture is being homesick for a world that doesnt exist anymore, no matter how close modern environments come to it

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[a-dragons-journal]

Other kins: I GIVE YOU THIS PART OF MY PHYSCIAL BEING AS A DISPLAY OF TRUST AND VULNERABILITY

Other Kins: haha cute little way of courting

Me, and my cat kin: Uhhh.... I bite people. So... there's that.

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