relybmoz

she/her, 18y, here for byler & jikook

[takemyadvice-dontlistentome]

it's the same picture

[kittykat940]

Bye...💀

[thewisewill80sbyers]

I cannot believe that I didn't connect this before oh my god !!!!!

[ladybl4ckbird]

Hi, well this is my first post here despite following the series since 2016 and being a byler since 2019, basically there was a ghost shipper going on around here, but anyway, lately I've been hyper-focused on byler and I needed to share with someone (if anyone is going to read this here) about my biggest byler proof in the WORLD. I honestly don't know if this has been talked about here before, but I'm reading Dustin's book and there's a scene where Dustin, Lucas and Mike are in the Wheeler's basement after a long time (they were kind of fighting with Lucas after he joined the basketball team) and Dustin decides to call Will and this call is very interesting for several reasons, but the main ones are: 1st Both Will and El participate in the call and everyone talks to El EXCEPT Mike, he literally doesn't exchange a single word with El and neither does she with him which is strange for even Dustin to notice and think something like "they must have talked a lot that they ran out of things to talk about" but immediately compares it to his own relationship with Suzi and how they NEVER run out of things to talk about. And 2nd when Will talks about not having become a California local yet, Mike literally holds the phone tight enough that Dustin can't take the phone back when he starts talking to Will about the science fair. Anyway, as a writer (and reader) with years of experience, Mike's anxiety and lack of conversation between Mike and El on a rare phone call is kind of a giant sign of byler to me. Anyway, that's it. Sorry for the bad English, it's not my first language.

[samfreakchester]

Ok im lowkey like full body shivers rn.

What if the team just had their biggest fight. But if the brain dies the body dies or whatever. They had to get to the gate through an army base, so once shit gets bad and theyre dragged out if the army base, the soldiers start going in. Will is full body convulsing on the floor s2 style, because like the soldiers are fucking going at vecna.

Just a theory.

[walkingbandtee]

I'm not even a big byler shipper, I would've been fine either way. BUT now I need them together just to spite those whiny, annoying ass bitches going "byler BETTER NOT happen😡😡😡" like stfu. It's a show, you'll live. And queer representation is important. They get so fucking pissy about it. I'm sorry, is your whole world going to shatter if precious Mike ends up with a boy instead?

It's just the fact that they have no real reason to be against it.

[bluemeetsyellow456]

Quick reminder that Mike is wearing the same shirt as Jacob from abbott elementary in S5. Jacob is gay. But sure, sure this is juuuust another coincidence...

And yes, I watched all 4 seasons of abbott elementary just to confirm this. It's a small moment from S3 E5.

Btw the show is really good.

[we-should-go-crazy-together]

Hey so do you guys remember when el literally didn't know how to tell if she actually liked things herself untill max showed her in s3 and then immediately after she broke up with Mike? Just double checking

[heretoeat-deactivated20250616]

"Hey, I’m Kween and I guess this is where I introduce myself and how I got to Jikook.

I’ve been an ARMY since 2020—yes, pandemic era, when life was weird, and BTS somehow made it better. Like many, I started with the music, then the inevitable spiral into the BTS universe. My bias? Jungkook. unlike all the other people who can actually tell why their bias is their bias, I can't. Not because there's no reason, but because I don't even know where to start. I just looked at him once, and that was it. No sexual attraction or any other reason to Stan him, but just the fact that I saw him first. My eyes saw him first in a group of 7, and that was enough. I only started knowing him well after some time. I could relate to him, and I somehow felt like the strange pull I felt with him the first time, wasn't a coincidence. He kinda pulled a 🎶na na na, no no no 😭🎶 on me

Sorry Jimin lol ...you know what I'm trying to say. And yes, I won't search for it..feeling lazy to correct myself.

When I first joined the fandom, I had no idea what shipping was. I wasn’t on social media like that, I wasn’t familiar with fandom culture, and I didn’t even realize that people speculated about BTS members’ relationships. But the first thing I got thrown into? A Taekook space.

Getting in there wasn't quite a direct entry. I was just trying to know who Jungkook of BTS is. So yeah, I go ahead and type Jungkook. And the searches completed it for me. I saw Jungkook's girlfriend, then boom. And what I found there disappointed me to the core. There was a lot of photos ( edited) and videos ( edited) about Jungkook's dating history. And as we all know, he's very well considered a player. So I despised him for a few minutes, literally. Because of course he is just like all the western artists ; a bitch ran through. I was a girlies' girl back then lol, still is, but it was still fresh on me. I didn't want any drama with the boys. So yes, I did despise him, but thanks to the comments I calmed down . The very first video and photo I saw was Liskook aka Lisa and Jungkook, if you have no idea what I'm talking about. And in one of the comments section, someone said that's an edit, you're lying only Taekook is real. I wondered, like every other new fan would, who taekook is. And I legit thought Taekook was one person, a girl. I searched and fell into it.

At the time, I wasn’t questioning anything—I just took in whatever was being said. There were all these clips, these edits, and this overwhelming narrative that Taekook was the thing. And even though I didn’t fully believe it, a part of me wanted it to be real. But at the same time, there was always this doubt. The comments saying they were just brothers or close friends made sense. Some of the "evidence" felt like a stretch. And in the back of my mind, I couldn’t shake the feeling that maybe I wasn’t seeing the full picture.

But I won't lie here, shipping them is addictive - was addictive. No matter how much my heart wouldn't believe, but I was hooked. I guess that's what happens with most Taekookers. I'm not here to speak for them though. But this is the part of me that actually understands them, to an extent. I was addicted to the shipping part, and the fact that I was just a baby Army wasn't helping, with no social media experience at all.

And being the “non-shipper” I was...I actually hated seeing comments talking about “they are just brothers/ friends ”. My whole Army experience would be ruined. The reason I'd wake up at 3am all this time would get ruined. And I simply wasn't ready for that “reality” to get shattered. So just like that, I held on to Taekook being real as fuck ...I held on to, if they're not real, neither am I Narrative. And to help myself further, I avoided the comments altogether. I avoided anything that challenged the belief that Taekook is real, and anything that would prove all those sleepless nights, anticipation and the excitement to be pointless.

And this went on for years. “ Yes I'm not a shipper, but Taekook can not be fake!”

[By the way, if you're new to what I'm talking about and you have no idea what 🎶na na na , no no no 🎶 is... simply go and search, I'm you, you're me Jimin and Jungkook. You'll find the real wording...the correct one. It's a line from Jimin's song ; Serendipity, and it ended up becoming a Jimin and Jungkook thing, especially after realizing that they have a lot more in common that they thought.]

But as I knew BTS more and more, and I read the comments to smile and coo at the “couple” , I was forced to really confront the distorted reality I was living in. There were more comments bringing up how disrespectful Taekookers are, and even myself, who enjoyed the shit in the comments, had to agree that, indeed! I had to admit that Taekookers do post about Taekook like they're a touch starved fandom, a horny one. And the one thing that ticked me off was The famous taekook festa video 2017 or 18... I've forgotten, with 1M+ views on YouTube as we speak.

I continued watching the other videos / shorts in YouTube, and went to the comments to say aww 🥰 or find something I missed in the video, but my time as a taekooker or whatever I actually was ... was ticking. Very soon I would no longer be found in taekook spaces. I was very protective of Jungkook, I still am, so my patience was being worn out bit by bit. I loved Taehyung, and I still do. The man is my bias wrecker . But Jungkook was the objectified one in the ship. Maybe it was my biased heart seeing this, or my homophobic or maybe stereotypical view I had...I really don't know what was going on with me, but I hated the whole Jungkook is a bottom, he screams baby boy, narrative with my guts. I started hating how everything had to boil down to what goes on in their bedroom ALL THE TIME...ALL THE FUCKING TIME !!!

So I simply didn't love the idea of them potentially being a couple anymore. Not at the expense of Jungkook's respect, I said to myself. Well, regarding Jungkook being a bottom, I finally accepted that I'm not homophobic at all, it's a stereotype, and I would've literally said nothing if V was the one Taekookers were calling a bottom everyday. So I warmed up to it eventually. I started loving or to put it into proper words...appreciating bottoms ( I know this info might be too much and unnecessary, but BTS really did a lot to me, including helping me become completely open like that , and open minded too) . So if JK is straight; he is. If he's not; he's not. And if he's being bended over; he is. If he's doing the bending; he is. It shouldn't be such an eww🤢 shut the fuck up, thing for me. So yeah, I'm glad to say, idgaf about these things anymore.

But mind you, I'm not a taekook- crazed girl anymore. It completely faded somehow. I started loving seeing people shade Taekookers. If Armys shade them, fine...if Jikookers shade them, fine too. I started also to kinda hate Taekookers who would squeeze in yoonmin to validate Taekook. I was sick of it because as much as Taekook had a little chemistry in my eyes, yoonmin was total bullshit. I made the conclusion that Taekookers pair Jimin with Yoongi just to keep him away from Jungkook. I didn't care what anyone said, but no! Yoonmin doesn't give old married couple. And I was willing to die on that hill, that's where I totally lost all the respect for Taekookers. I wanted them to leave Jimin alone, and Yoongi too.

I don't know how I ended up in the Jikook side of things, but I found myself there. But since I had my Taekook trauma, I never really took the Jikook evidence seriously coz, it had to be edited too, right? I found Jikookers stupid, nothing worse than taekookers though, but stupid. Mind you, we're now into the end of 2023... The last quarter. And all the 3 years of me being an Army was consumed by Taekookers and their edits, and when I watched the runs ( run bts, in the soop etc...) I was always focusing on Taekook, not watching for fun. But when I started just watching for fun, I realized that no! Jimin and JK could be the best friends of the group 😂, and No!! V doesn't really give a damn about that. Yes, now that I'm watching these with no alterations, I see that V just loves him some attention WHEN he wants it. The man is not jealous of anyone. So yeah, one two three videos of jikook just being friends stole my heart. They did questionable things, but I spared them, lest I become like taekookers whom I now dislike.

I left them alone, I believe as a girl, if my girlie and I were goddamn besties, I would touch their butt too, you know? ( I would shove that hand away so fast. But cool,maybe I'm just the one who hates being touched,maybe it ain't my love language)

The ear sucking moved me, and I was disgusted! Was Jungkook not ashamed to do that?.And was Jimin sane for bring that calm?. Sorry to y'all lol, but that wasn't cute, because they're just bros!!! I imagined my brother doing that to me, and I guess that's why I hated that moment too much, not hate...but disgust . I saw it through the lens of a sibling and a friend. And it wasn't fitting. I started shunning the “ I do that with my siblings too” Armys. Like...maybe fukc y'all.(?)

[ and just to clarify, it's not like I was seeing Jikook moments for the first time, I just never got time to digest their actions. And I actually started disbelieving that Tae and Jimin are soulmates..they used to be, not anymore. ]

And before I move on, the arrest me joke wasn't cringe for me. I just wondered why he chose to say it. I laughed too, like genuinely.

Things took a different turn after I started noticing that Jimin was always with everyone, openly supporting everyone,. except Jungkook. I wondered if it's because he knows taekookers - some taekookers - hate him for being near Jungkook. (?) But I watched that one live of Jimin with his new blonde hair, and his eyes lighting up upon seeing JK and laughing like they'd been together all this time melted my heart. It's crazy, but my heart was kinda happy for Jikookers coz the poor people were going through it, and for me, Jikookers were the enemy of my enemy...so 🤝 mate. I still wasn't into the Jikook are dating thing, but why did it seems like Jimin is working so hard to avoid Jungkook?!

[ and before I forget, the birthday live had me side eyeing Jimin. I mean, Jungkook is a brother to me, why are you talking about him like that? What's that body language Jimin? My “brother” is just a ...idk... Kid?? No, he's not...but, I was more like, I don't see JK like that, and he's the maknae...why are you acting like that? I mean, it's just Jungkook Jimin, the annoying maknae, the one whom people don't really take seriously..coz he's the baby of the group.. what's wrong with you??!

Ohhh, I get it now Jimin. I am so misunderstood. Maybe we're misunderstanding your body language too...you.must be feeling cold, or something....if your face looks red like that, and your doing the little hand thingy like that...I see you're almost tucking your hair behind your ear, but it's fine...you must be cold, or you wanna scratch your ear I don't know...but don't worry, I won't misunderstand you like the Jikookers are...]

But the question is, why are you avoiding Jungkook Jimin? Yes, I know you two have a flirty dynamic when You want, but why is Jungkook so into you these days? Every live, and you're there too, in the comments, taking the spotlight.. taking all his attention, but physically you're nowhere to be found. Why???????

And when Jungkook visited you that day, you kicked him out so fast.. correction, laughed with him, giggled, grabbed his chest, SQUEEZED it, and kicked him out. Why???

I've read many of y'all's stories on this one, and how most of you Jungkook was your giveaway...or to put it simply, Jungkook made you start to question what was really going on between Jikook. But as for me, Jimin did. All I saw was JK being the typical shy JK he is. And all I saw was Jimin is the hyung, and these hyungs love playing with the maknae. They love flustering him coz they know he's the youngest and will do anything to make him just react, or laugh.

But why is Jimin avoiding Jungkook? Don't you like him anymore? Does the taekookers hate get to you that bad? Then Are You Sure happened . My jaw has never been found since then.

Jimin, he is the younger one here!!! Are you gonna let him touch your butt like that, that too in bed? Why are you allowing him to breathe you in like that? Do you seriously lack boundaries Jimin? Yes, it's not the first time Jungkook has touched your butt, it's so usual. And I'm not even shocked by that, but this way was too intimate for me. And by the way, why did you lie about not being able to see each other, when y'all did? Same thing happened years ago, he went to your place to cook for you, right after the concert, and “Long time no see ..!” ???

WHAT?! AND...and.. Jimin and Jungkook..I was so inexperienced in the dating world I didn't even know what a hickey was, but I knew a bite like the back of my hand. And I did suck on my hand just for fun, and I know I was doing it for no reason, but it became red/purple, not the bite kinda...there were no teeth. So for you to have developed that mark Jungkook, he had to suck your neck.. that's the only way that thing could develop. No other way.

Putting all these pieces together and not even knowing where to start messed up my brain 😭

And to be honest, jikook overwhelm me. They do, seriously and it's not in a bad way, but the questions they make me have always end up in one answer; I would never do that to my friend or relatives. And yes, Jikook are not brothers. No matter what they tell us, or what fans tell themselves, biology doesn't lie. They're not from the same womb, or semen , so they are not brothers. And now that we've taken that out of the way, the only thing remaining is friendship. And friendship has never stopped anyone from making out or fucking one another...alteast some friendships. And being friends with no boundaries like these two, or less boundaries..makes them friends who can easily just kiss or grope each other for the heck of it. So Jikook being friends doesn't stop them from fucking, and perhaps dating...And I don't think a lot of people ever consider that, looking at how they're always ready to defend them with how it's just a friendship. I've fukced a friend. Sorry for the tmi, but heyyyy... If I can, and some of y'all have, why can't Jimin and Jungkook do it? What could possibly stop them?? And please, sorry but I think it's just not realistic to think they'd do it for the sake of the group. If you think so, may I ask genuinely? Why??

Because to be honest, this ain't no movie, where you'll sacrifice your feelings for a group. And I'm not saying they're chowing one another, but if they wanted to, they would. There's a risk of them getting crucified for it, coz it's BTS...but is that really enough to keep their hands off each other if they wanted one another? No ... NO!

And Jimin and Jungkook have a better chance at being together and fucking each other than any other pair in BTS. If it's not them, forget about the others. I'm just saying 🤷

[andy-wm]

Moving out, Moving in

Mission accomplished by sleight of hand?

This is just a collection of thoughts so it's probably full of holes, but it seems to me that Jimin and Jungkook always have a plan in motion.

I guess it's not surprising since they live and work in a fast paced environment in which most of their waking hours are scheduled to the max. It's not just the day to day that's planned down to the wire, their albums and tours are planned years ahead of time and coordinated with military precision.

Their lives run on plans and schedules

Random anecdote: Someone I was friendly with a couple of years ago worked on the BTS Samsung ads as a translator. She described how she was expected to be awake and ready to take calls and edit copy at literally any time of the day or night. Hybe does not sleep. There are staff all over the world, working around the clock. Time is money.

We've all heard these stories, right? So we can imagine the project/event management going on there. The place must run like a Swiss watch.

When you live like that it becomes your normal, so i have no doubt ALL the members are used to planning out their lives.

Also, when you have hardly any free time you use it carefully. If you want to do anything you have to plan and schedule it.

I'm not suggesting they project manage all these things on their own. What's the point of having an endless well of money if you can't hire people to help you make life happen the way you want it to. But I am saying they would know that if they don't plan it, it aint gonna happen.

So, back to Jikook and their plans.

Solo albums

Despite how different their solo album were in terms of musical styles and themes, their promotional materials were astonishingly similar. From colour palettes to photo styling to identical outfits they were far too similar for it to be a coincidence. In fact, if those albums had been people walking down a street they would have been couple dressing without a doubt.

Are You Sure

The travel adventures they squeezed in between deadlines and performances must have been carefully orchestrated too.

Home sweet home

And let's not forget Jungkook finding time to design, plan, and execute the building of the Itaewon house in between everything else.

They plan down to the fine details. And they also play the long game. It's how they're used to operating.

Keep that in mind as i move onto the next thought. This is the interesting bit...

Military service.

It's a reality for every able bodied man in Korea. For a group like BTS it's another thing that would have been carefully considered. Enlistment timing, yes, and every other variable they could choose: locations, divisions, roles etc.

They would have been thinking about their options for MS from the time they were eligible to enlist. Jungkook would have been acutely aware that his tattoos would prevent him from doing anything in security. But that didn't prevent him from inking up his whole arm.

So, we can assume other plans or priorities for MS existed even then.

And those plans included a major decision:

Companion enlistment.

They would have thought carefully about this, having heard all the horror stories of how it can go wrong.

Besides that, despite being dismissed as no biggie by most of the fandom it is extremely rare for idols to enlist as companions.

I did the research. There might be one other occurrence of this. Enlisting at the same time does happen (still rare) but as companions... almost never.

It meant their enlistment was even more newsworthy. They must have known it would highlight their closeness. Was that a conscious choice too?

Maybe.

Everyone, not just jikookers, knows they're inseparable now. It's proof for those who needed it that their relationship is genuine and not fan service.

If they were concerned about how their relationship was perceived i guess thats a bonus. But they coukd have just been more visible in Seoul.

So I'm still asking myself... why?

Why take the chance? Why risk the relationship? So many couples just have to deal with the MS separation, it's simply a fact of life. All the other members had to go through it alone. Jimin and Jungkook could have done it too. They spent months barely seeing each other when they were on solo schedules.

And I'm absolutely not denying they most likely wanted to be together if at all possible. But besides that, what could be gained? Its a long game, remember... so what could be their ultimate goal here?

Where will this lead?

What comes next for them?

Logically the biggest thing for any of the members one they've completed their MS, is their adult life. On a personal level it's the next step.

Nobody is naive enough to think these guys are still going to play boyfriend to the fandom. Not when Hobi our sunshine, who wouldn't even show his armpit on camera, describes the Sweet Dreams lyrics as BEST HOT SEX and then adds 'am I right?' with a smirk because he knows ARMY are all adults too (or that's the part of the fandom he's choosing to engage with).

There's going to be an expectation - or for some ARMYs a resigned acceptance - that the members will actively date, maybe settle down and have a long term partner or a family. But it's only acceptable for those who are going to date or marry a woman. It'd have to be an unknown and discreet or better yet totally secret lover if they're with any other gender.

Which brings us back to Jikook

So what might adult life look like for our lovebirds?

<<content warning: unbridled speculation>>

As a person who believes they're in a long term intimate relationship with plans for a future together, i think they'd want to share a home.

Could they share a home & future?

Imagine the absolute pandemonium that would ensue if Jimin and Jungkook suddenly paired up and set up house together. It would be wild. Possibly the most scandalous thing to ever happen to kpop. The press would roast them, carve them up, and serve the to the nation for dinner. Every conservative right wing mouthpiece would have an opinion on their morality. It would be hideous.

Unless....

Unless they didn't need to suddenly pair up because they were already living together!

Like maybe... as companion enlisted soldiers. And not just any ordinary soldiers but cream of the crop, highly commended, much adored soldiers. Soldiers who have done their nation proud together.

By enlisting together they've already bridged the possibly fatal social chasm they needed to navigate (aka rampant homophobia) if they wanted to move in together.

They ALREADY live together

They've done the hard bit.

It would be no big deal, really to continue to do so. All they'll be doing is relocating to the house in Itaewon.

And my goodness what serendipitous timing... the build was completed while they were snuggled up in their barracks so there's no awkward in between stage. They can just slide right in to their cosy new home and nobody can really say a thing.

What a cunning plan

Now before anyone yells at me of course i have no idea what their plans are. Zero. Nobody does except their trusted circle. This is entirely fabricated. But ya know what?

It's also entirely possible.

💜🏠💛

[relybmoz]

okay, i saw this post and it reminded me of a thought i had days ago and need to express: what if “are you sure?” is part of a plan, a build up to make people used to them together, having their own thing, being domestic and “glued” to each other? they’ve always been like this, but the show is to showcase it more to the public and etc. it was a whole build up of years for the members to openly appear shirtless and sing/talk about sex, and even for jungkook to show his entire arm tattoos, bighit/hybe would always censor it through video editing and/or real life makeup, and he would be wearing long-sleeved outfits a lot of the time even if the weather was hot, it was a gradual change and now he sometimes appears almost totally naked with a towel only, then he says “i’m living the most free of us all” and answers an army in a live that his songs aren’t “dirty” just because they’re explicitly sexual (not even that explicit, to be honest)

[ant249]

“My pineapple looks like shit!”

Mike tried his best…

[jkvjimin]

HELP ME TO SAVE MY KITTEN

My name is Pat Menezes and this fundraiser aims to help cover the costs of my youngest cat who is suffering from a very delicate infection.

For those who don't know me, I am the guardian of 4 cats, well… There were 4. On Saturday, March 8th, I lost one of my cats to an illness that could not be diagnosed in time. She started to lose her appetite and would only lie down. Her name was Lua (moon in English), she wasn't eating and was diagnosed with vomiting and even went into cardiac arrest in the vet's arms…

Léia, my youngest cat, had an unexpected call and pain in her ear on the 10th into the early hours of the 11th. She started eating in the morning, but by the evening she had already lost her appetite and vomited white foam. We rushed to the vet who diagnosed the otitis, but they reported the vomiting. Since my other cat had solutions, we started administering the same ones to treat the infection, but she can't eat or drink.

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I would like to ask for your help with this treatment, considering that my husband and I are unemployed and helpless. We can't sleep, we have no appetite, but all we want is the best for our babies.

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[jkvjimin]

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updates about this post:

The diagnosis was confirmed. Léia suffers from a serious infectious disease called Panleukopenia. The treatment consists of serum therapy, probiotics and intravenous antibiotics, monitoring her appetite and checking her antibodies until she recovers and gets the necessary vaccine to return home so we can continue monitoring her. As a result, she remains hospitalized, but has been transferred to the infected animals area. This has generated another cost. She needed other tests, specific foods and special care and will need it until her health improves. We will not give up on her life. We are fighting with all our strength, and we count on the help and may God touch the hearts of everyone who can strengthen us in this difficult time. The disease is curable, all we need is intensive and correct treatment.

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[gayofthefae]

The line "it's too much yellow" plays over the shot of the "From Mike" bouquet note lol

Sorry I can't say ily

There's just too much yellow

[phoebebyers]

hey so this was insane

[kittykat940]

🤭

[gayofthefae]

Thinking about how Mike wasn't just told to like El then he liked her. No. There's a third event that happens between them that we skip over so often but is vital and Mike's crush might not have even happened without it.

Mike is being teased about El, yes. But he actually doesn't even get the chance to respond, let alone have his following actions be influenced by only that. Because before he can even react, look who's here:

Stakes.

This scene isn't about El. This scene plays out in one, very simple way.

Lucas: you like El.

Mike: I don't.

Troy: Let me remind you what will happen if you don't.

Just like the ily speech, Lucas is Will, but that's not all it took. It didn't just take the suggestion of something. It took the STAKES. It took threat. He was told to do something then he turned to see just what would happen to him if he didn't do it. The romantic trope is feigned: realize your feelings once someone points out that someone could be romantic. Steve has the same with Robin in season 3. But one thing here is different.

Before he has a chance to respond - to ensure we don't know what would have happened, he is given incentive to lie.

It isn't just suggestibility. "Huh, maybe I should like her. I guess I will." It's fear. It's "you need to hide, like right fucking now, and there's a hiding spot right there." Yeah. You run to the hiding spot and you do not fucking come out ever.