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Hey all! I’m going to be switching over to a new blog.
I’ve outgrown my main blog, and since this is a side-blog and you can’t switch the side to become the main, I’ll just be dropping it completely.
Come and visit me over at @bronzemirrors (●'◡'●)
i’ve been on hold at my library for a book about asexuality for a few weeks and i just read an article about some concepts in the book re: consent. and holy shit. blew my mind. i’ve NEVER read about consent in the context of a relationship with an ace and an allo that resonated so strongly with me, and as a person in such a relationship!! it’s so!!! i’m even more excited for the book now.
for anyone interested, the article is How to Negotiate Better Consent: An Asexual Perspective and the book i’m waiting for is Ace: What Asexuality Reveals About Desire, Society and the Meaning of Sex.
god okay, just to gush about this more, the author suggests using the categories of enthusiastic, willing, unwilling and coerced consent (rather than just “enthusiastic consent” or “no means no”). i really recommend reading the whole article linked above, but what blew my mind is the distinction between enthusiastic and willing consent. it gets broken down like this:
Enthusiastic consent:
When I want you
When I don’t fear the consequences of saying yes OR saying no
When saying no means missing out on something I want
Willing consent:
When I care about you though I don’t desire you (right now)
When I’m pretty sure saying yes will have an okay result and I think maybe that I’d regret saying no
When I believe that desire may begin after I say yes
and like!!! it made me realize i may have never actually enthusiastically consented in my life, but like, that doesn’t mean i have never or cannot consent! i almost always fall into the “willing consent” framework and i’ve never seen that….validated anywhere. anyway, it’s just given me this perspective about my sexuality and consent in general and better ways to relate to my partner and!!! idk!!! thank goodness for other ace people, is what i’m saying.
This is very useful and a lot of sex work can also be best understood as willing consent, where the indirect consequences of having sex (getting paid) are what is desired and the direct consequences (having probably-mediocre sex with someone you don’t actively desire) are not considered so negative that they outweigh the indirect consequences.
Which is a definition of consent that gives sex workers agency and sees their consent as a choice made again and again based on the pros and cons, not something that is coerced and also not something that always exists by default simply because they are sex workers.
Recognizing willing consent is probably validating for a lot of people who have consent to sex without meeting the definition of enthusiastic consent.
Do you have any tips or resources for hand-sewing quilts? I have a mix of scrap textiles that I’d love to start sewing into a simple block quilt, but most of the resources I can find are for machine sewing and / or for quilters who buy all their materials new.
Hand-sewing quilts
While quilting used to traditionally be done by hand, it's common to make them by machine these days.
These YouTube video's by Suzy Quilts and Wendi Gratz will show you the basics of quilting by hand, while this video by Leah Day shows how to sew a basic quilting block by hand.
This Instructables guide on hand quilting by Mrsmerwin explains the same principles in text. For a closer look at the required stitching, check out this hand quilting guide by The Sewing Directory.
Pinterest also has a ton of fun quilting blocks to try out if you're looking for inspiration.
For scrap fabric quilt inspiration, check out The Spruce Craft and Pinterest. Try to combine fabrics that are similar in fibre and weight to ensure everything drapes well and is easy to wash.
fat bodies tutorial!
ALRIGHT SO my pal @kalreyno wanted help with drawing fat characters and as a fat artist i felt like i could give a bit of helpful insight on that. there’s also been a lot of complaining about “boo hoo fat characters are hard to draw so i can’t include them in my work Ever” goin on lately so if that’s your case then this is for you too!! and also just for anyone who would like help with fat bodies in general, ofc. anyway, let’s get this show on the road!!
let’s start with some common misconceptions. these are the two main attempts at chubby bodies i run into, so i’ll focus on them.
the Anime Chubby i see everywhere, and it’s just……so wrong in many ways. first of all, there is almost no additional body fat compared to your average thin character - except for where it’s added in “attractive” places (breasts, hips, thighs). the breasts are way too perky, and don’t have the realistic shape fat would give them (though how to draw accurate breasts is another tutorial all on its own lmao). there is still a thigh gap, which usually only happens in very thin people, and bones are still visible on the surface of the skin, which also rarely happens in fat people.
the Michelin Man is better in some ways, but still not that great. it’s a slightly better attempt, but basically all that’s done there is taking a thin character and blowing them up, while giving no thought to fat distribution. the thigh gap is usually still present, and they look a lot more hard than soft - and fat is very soft and pliable.
here’s a chart on how fat usually distributes (if you can’t read my messy writing, “1. next to no fat, 2. moderate amount, 3. most of the fat distribution”). basically, the more muscle an area has, the more prone it is to develop fat, such as the abdomen, thighs, and upper arms. it’s important to note that fat sits on top of muscle, and that it does distribute in different levels, and not evenly across the body as shown in the Michelin Man.
now, here’s an accurate fat body with all of that kept in mind!! notice how the fat isn’t only kept to aesthetically pleasing areas, and how it sits realistically on the character’s body. their breasts sag a lot more, which happens even in thin people with larger breasts, and the nipples are pointing more downwards than straight out. there is no thigh gap in sight, there are no bones in sight, and most importantly, they have fat rolls, which are very important in drawing a convincing fat character!! as far as i know i’ve never met a single person with no rolls at all, and everyone has them, whether thin or fat - they’re just more prominent and more consistently present in fat people. pay close attention to where they are and how they’re shaped.
here are a couple of drawings showing how fat is affected when sitting vs stretching. as seen in the first, the fat specifically on the stomach is distributed a lot more evenly and stretched out, so it becomes “flatter”. the love handles are still pretty visible, though, as well as the fat on the thighs and arms. the breasts are raised with the shoulders, and the fat on the shoulders and near the neck forms rolls as it’s being pushed together.
in the second, there is a lot less room for distribution, so the fat is all pushed together. the breasts sag and the stomach forms rolls and spills into the lap. a good analogy for the way fat works is to liken it to a water balloon, and thinking of how its shape would change when resting flat on a surface, hanging off of a ledge, held upright, etc.
here are a few extra tips i find a lot of people miss!
first on the top is the hip/pubic region. the first circle is showing the way the bellybutton is folded in fat people, as opposed to stretched out in thinner people. the second is the stomach fat spilling over onto the pubic region and creating a separation in the two areas, which is something that’s missing in a lot of art. in addition, the pubic mound also gains fat, making it round as seen in the profile drawing i did up there (i’ve heard people refer to it as fupa?). the last in the hip region is the lack of a thigh gap. i can’t stress this enough!!!! if you’re trying to draw a convincing fat character, make sure their thighs are pretty much always touching!! for reference, mine literally don’t separate until my feet are about 2ft from each other.
the bottom right is showing the double chin, which a lot of people are afraid to draw!! fat does distribute itself here too, and there’s nothing wrong with it, so don’t feel like you shouldn’t give fat characters a double chin in your work for fear of it looking like a caricature.
in the bottom middle, it’s showing how fat affects different types of breasts with the presence of more or less breast tissue.
lastly, at the very right are stretch marks with their usual locations and directions, which i also can’t stress enough!!!!! i sometimes forget to add them honestly, but they’re so important in accurately portraying fat characters, as they literally come from the skin being stretched from fat being gained (and they’re also just rlly neat lookin like why wouldn’t you lmao). some people have less and some people have more, feel free to experiment with them!
the last thing is body types!! there isn’t one single way for a person to be fat, so feel free to experiment with shapes once you’ve learned the basics!!
so there you have it, a tutorial on how to draw chubs!! now go forth and make some accurate fanart or some rad fat characters, because the world could always use more of both. hmu if you have any questions or concerns, and thanks for reading!!
EDIT: someone pointed out the bad wording in the tutorial. thank you for bringing it to my attention and sorry for offending anybody. i’ve updated the tut, so please reblog this one!
Okay so I am literally about to cry. I’m not an artist, but I love looking at art. And like. It makes me feel so worthless to see beautiful art with “fat” characters that are just extra curvey because I am so not that, and seeing only the sexy curvy drawings makes me feel like I am somehow the wrong kind of fat. But this. This is so spot on. I have stretch marks and I have a double chin and I have like a fatty pouch in my pelvic area and my breasts are not perky and my thighs do not touch and just… All of it. Seeing art of someone who looks like me makes me feel… Worthy. Some artist thought a body like mine was worth drawing, and that is so wonderful and validating and flattering. People enjoying said art is so good too. And like. Wow. I just want to cry.
This is a very good resource. Take note, people: “I wasn’t trained to draw fat people” is not an excuse.
I just saw the most Galaxy Brain gender take ever, from a cis man on reddit
[ID: a screenshot of a comment from reddit, with no username visible. The commend reads: This doesn’t make a ton of sense to me either. Setting aside the question of whether gender/sex is assigned or observed at birth, the gender I was assigned at birth was ‘boy.’ The gender I have now is ‘man’. Boys and men have different gender roles, and few adults identify as boys anymore. From this standpoint, every adult has a different gender than the one they had at birth. End ID]
Framing “girl” and “boy” as separate genders from “woman” and “man” is such an amazing take. it’s a framework that accommodates and explains so many trans experiences. Some trans people never were their AGAB. Some feel like they were their AGAB, but that that changed (usually when puberty hits, which is when you start “becoming a man/woman”. The accepted societal path is that girls grow up to into women, and boys grow up into men. But some girls grow up into men, and some boys grow up into women. This guy was a boy who grew up into a man, which generally works out pretty well for people. Some boys and girls grow up into people who aren’t men or women, even! It’s like this random cis guy skipped right over transgender 101, 102, 201, etc. and stumbled directly into Transgender Nirvana.
Emergency cleaning: Unfuck your whole house in the shortest time possible
So, your landlord/parents/home inspector/favorite movie star is dropping by, and your place is a disaster. You don’t have much time to clean it up. You’re in emergency mode. Let’s get started.
Don’t panic. Panic leads to fear, fear leads to procrastination, procrastination leads to the dark side. You can do this, but you have to stay calm.
Unlike maintenance cleaning, we’re not looking to completely unfuck one space at a time. Instead, we want to decrease the overall mess in stages, spread evenly across the whole area that we’re concerned about. If you think your home is at Level 10 filth, we want to bring the whole thing down to a Level 9, and then down from there. One really clean spot in an otherwise messy home is not going to be helpful here.
Get prepared. You’ll want to shut the computer down (or turn the modem off if you need your computer to play music). Trust me. Get your music going. Gather up trash bags, your vacuum and mop, some rags or paper towel, sponges, and other cleaning supplies. Use what you have on hand. Don’t get distracted running to the store and spending an hour browsing cleaning supplies. A multi-purpose cleaning concentrate or a jug of vinegar will be just fine.
Breaks are very important. Depending on your time constraints, work in 20/10s (20 minutes working, 10-minute break) or 45/15s. But take breaks because otherwise you’re marathoning, and marathon cleaning is no one’s friend. Keep hydrated, don’t forget to eat, and check in with yourself frequently to make sure you’re physically doing OK.
Make your bed. This will be your home base if you get overwhelmed or need somewhere clear to take a break.
Start with the garbage. Going from room to room, throw out anything that is obvious trash. Once you fill a bag, take it out. Repeat as many times as necessary.
Move on to dishes. Gather the dishes from all over your house and bring them to the kitchen. If you can, start them soaking in a sink of hot, soapy water or start loading the dishwasher. After the dishes are all in one place, spend one 20/10 getting started getting them under control.
Now it’s time for your flat surfaces. Countertops, tables, dresser tops, etc. Clear them off and wipe them down. Don’t get distracted in too much sorting and organizing. We’re in crisis mode here. There will be time to get in-depth once this is all done. The same applies to cabinets and closets. Unless you have reason to believe people will be opening closed doors, leave these alone for now.
Attack the floordrobe and shoe pile. Get your clothes either put away or in the hamper. Start a load of laundry if you need to, but keep in mind that laundry and dishes have three steps: wash, dry, and put it away, goddammit!
Get random stuff up off the floors. If something is trash-worthy, throw it away now rather than just move it around a bunch of times. Otherwise, put stuff where it belongs.
Take another 20/10 or 45/15 to catch up on more dishes, if needed.
Head into the bathroom. Pour some cleaner in the toilet bowl, fill the sink with hot water and cleaner, and either spray the tub and shower with cleaner, or fill the tub up with some hot water and add cleaner and let it soak. Put everything away that’s out and shouldn’t be, clean the mirror, counters, and toilet seat. Sweep or dry mop the floor. Wipe down the sink and tub/shower, and give the toilet bowl a scrub. Mop the floor.
Sweep and mop the kitchen floor.
Vacuum everything you can, and sweep everything you can’t.
Walk outside of your house (don’t lock yourself out, please). Walk back in and see what catches your eye first. Go and deal with that.
If you’re being inspected or your landlord is coming in for repairs, spend time on whatever area they’ll be focusing on.
Give the whole place one more once-over and pay attention to anything you’ve missed so far.
It’s an old trick, but if your place is a little funky-smelling, put a pan of water on the stove on low heat and add some citrus or cinnamon or vanilla. Don’t leave it unattended or forget about it.
Take a shower, put on something clean, and eat something.
You can do this. It’s overwhelming, yes, but it is not impossible. You just need to do it. You have a list. You have directions. You have a whole bunch of Internet strangers who have been there before and who are cheering you on. You can do this, but you need to get started.
Why are you still here? GO. START. NOW.
the number of times in my past that I desperately wanted/needed someone to sit me down and tell me this stuff. I will never get back the hours and hours lost to headless-chicken mode, but it’s nice to know that in the last year I’ve learned so many coping mechanisms :D
here’s a thought to try on for size:
it is actually fine for someone’s activism to focus primarily, if not exclusively, on one area, one demographic, or one problem. in fact, that is how most actual progress gets made: by people dedicating years of their lives to making changes in one specific area at a time. “why are you focusing on saving the whales and not the rainforest” is a derailment that leaves activists burned out and ineffective.
your politics should be intersectional, yes! you should listen to the concerns of all affected groups when deciding which policy to push forward, yes! but you cannot tackle every injustice and institution on earth, with equal passion, simultaneously. that’s too many battles. put some back.
“you can care about more than one thing at a time” very true, but also consider: you can care about many things and still choose to make one area of action your primary focus. most successful activists do. it doesn’t make the person fighting against amazon deforestation a hypocrite or a failure or a bad person that they are not, simultaneously, devoting all their time and energy to whale repopulation efforts
Something I’ve noticed about people that aren’t men is that when they talk about men, they assume that they know about all men because they live under patriarchy and men’s stories are the ones that are broadcasted. However, it rarely seems to come under consideration that the men’s stories broadcasted are largely those of hyperprivileged men. Primarily, white straight abled men with wealth and power and people serving them so they can spend time creating. That’s, well, a pretty small slice of men, and one deeply removed from the situation of men at large, let alone particularly marginalized men.
So when people that aren’t men make sweeping generalizations about men, manhood, and how male privilege operates without talking to marginalized men, I often find myself going “No, I know that’s wrong.” In a recent example that I’ve seen many versions of, I saw someone assert that male privilege is immutable and men can present themselves however they want without being declared not men. And, well, no. Off the top of my head, east asian men, indigenous men, intersex men, and short men are considered feminine and have to adopt higher levels of gendered signifiers to maintain privilege. Fat men and disabled men are degendered in much the same way that fat and disabled women are, and for the same reason: that fat and disabled people are not considered “fit” to participate in sex, relationships, and family, which is a huge part of gendered roles and expectations. Men that deliberately adopt feminine presentations being violently ejected from manhood is one of the pillars of homophobia.
I wonder if this lack of examining the perspectives of marginalized men is why fragility in your masculinity is so derided. If you’re only looking at the hyperprivileged men that have never had their place in manhood questioned, then it may seem reasonable to assume that men being unsure of their masculinity and worrying over their presentation and actions are being absurd. But there are many, many men that teeter on the edge of being accepted as men, and the penalties for failing to be accepted are steep.
Have you noticed that even in very progressive circles, one of the first things that asshole men are made fun of for are feminine traits? Shortness, high voices, etc.? That’s because if you can move someone outside the bounds of “acceptable” gender, you can enact extreme cruelty towards them with little to no social consequences. You also see this happen with masculine women, or, women who are interpreted as masculine simply because someone doesn’t like them. If you are failing to gender properly, people feel permitted to hurt you more. This is not a defense of assholes, mind. It’s a notation of the tactics that are used, and how they are rooted in gender policing, which has a host of bigotries attached to it.
I wonder what progressive circles would look like if we uplifted the stories of marginalized men more, encouraging them to talk about their experiences with gender and their marginalizations. I wonder if we would get a fuller picture of marginalization, and if more marginalized men would find unexpected solidarity. I wonder if we would actually get spaces where marginalized men can talk freely about their feelings, and what effect that would have on the mental health of marginalized men, who have, on balance, some of the worst mental health in society.
I want more diverse stories of manhood.
if you can move someone outside the bounds of “acceptable” gender, you can enact extreme cruelty towards them with little to no social consequences.
I’ve also noticed that people who are otherwise very respectful of all sorts of progressive ideals will absolutely ridicule someone for “not gendering correctly” if that person identifies as cis. Like, I’ve heard NB friends make fun of Ann Coulter for having a deep voice (and there are plenty of legitimate things to make fun of Ann Coulter for).
See also leftists who think it is funny to make fun of Ben Shapiro for being short and having a high-pitched voice, which also happen to be anti-semitic stereotypes about Jewish men.
instead of responding to "asexuality is low sex drive or no interest in sex" with "no, it's about sexual attraction exclusively"… or reblogging posts emphasizing that asexuality is defined by sexual attraction alone,
consider:
1. multiple ways to come to an asexual identity.
the earliest online asexual communities used "lack of interest in sex" as a starting point definition. note starting point. there have always been asexual communities where active members were critical of definitions being used to exclude someone for whom asexuality helps them understand themself.
2. asexuality as a description and a tool for understanding yourself instead of as something limiting
"am i still asexual if" questions can be restated as "do i still fit the definition of asexuality" questions, and giving answers that prioritize definitions over the asker's freedom to decide what labels are meaningful for them will never encourage the asker to consider their own needs and wants for how they'd like to be understood.
i’m here to bluntly tell you that your experience of sexual attraction (or lack thereof) is only relevant to your sexual orientation label if it's meaningful to you in your life and interpersonal relationships.
for me, my experiences of sexual attraction are irrelevant to how i go about relationships, and even when I've had strong sexual attraction to a wonderful person i loved, and had pleasant sexual experiences with them, it wasn't coupled with motivation to change anything about my relationship to the person, and i didn't feel like sexual activity made my relationships any different.
I've used gray-A and demisexual labels in the past, but i use asexual instead of those because sexual attraction changes nothing in how i interact with partners. asking myself if i experience sexual attraction at any given moment doesn't give me useful information, not even enough to explain what sexual attraction feels like to someone else. and i wouldn't want to explain it in any case, because the problem of definitions would come back in the form of "that's not sexual attraction. if you were really experiencing sexual attraction, you'd feel [something that lots of non-asexual people don't feel and many asexual people do feel]"
3. talking about how sexual identity and orientation labels are about finding community rather than comparing yourself to a standard.
definitions, unless used as examples in an incomplete list of ways someone might come to an asexual identity, always carry the risk of the friendly prescriptivism of "you're not asexual but you can still hang out with us, maybe you're (related other label)."
i didn’t join online asexual communities in my mid teens because i wanted other people to categorize me. i joined because i felt like the people there would understand me better than my peers, who'd respond with blank stares (at best). i joined to be part of a community where i wouldn't be scrutinized, even benevolently, for how i chose to describe my sexual identity/orientation.
I'm in my thirties and it's so disappointing to observe the prevalence internalized prescriptivism and benevolent intra-community prescriptivism. i don’t have time to be on forums or do much blogging so the best i can do about these problems is write something a few times a year and hope it spurs someone to more action than I'm able to do, before my post gets forgotten.
tl;dr the answer to "am i still asexual if" is "if you find asexuality meaningful in understanding yourself or communicating to others, and you want to use the label, yes" because labels are tools and not destinies
HI IT’S ME AGAIN
YOU’RE FUCKING UP YOUR TEETH AND YOUR MUSCLES AND SHIT
WHEN I CATCH YOU WITH ONE OF THESE I STEAL A FEW MINUTES OF YOUR LIFE FORCE. WHEN YOU ARE NOT CLENCHING WHEN YOU SEE ONE OF THESE, YOU GET TO STEAL A FEW MINUTES BACK. WE’LL SEE WHO’S LEFT STANDING IN THE END
GOTCHA AGAIN BITCH
i better catch up on the assigned reading (dracula emails) so i can partake in the class discussion (memes)
furthermore i truly believe you should eat a meal before making any big choices, confrontations, vents, etc. i promise 100% of the time you will feel better and more balanced with food in your stomach. you should never do anything that will have consequences on anything less than a full stomach
i want to kiss you on the lips for 1) saying orc instead of hobbit and 2) being like the only person out of 6k people to gender me correctly
Watching people call the Supreme Court “American taliban/Isis” and sharia law like you are so unabashedly racist, islamophobic, and orientalist that you can’t comprehend that this was made by White Evangelical Americans and wasn’t influenced by any of those groups but 100% White Evangelical American in its conception
#LateStageCapitalism
(sigh)
It wasn’t boomers who made it impossible to survive on a librarian or gardener’s salary - it was rich people.
Plenty of boomers work as librarians, teachers, gardeners, and so forth, and are finding that as the cost of living skyrockets and corporations take over more and more of the world, that their salary is no longer able to support them.
And thus you have boomers - who understand how much you want to be a librarian because they also work as librarians - going bankrupt, losing their homes, drowning in debt, and dying because of unaffordable healthcare. And they get why you’re becoming an IT specialist instead of a librarian - because they! Know! That you can’t survive! On a librarian’s salary anymore!
On the flip side, the rich people sucking money out of every service and person they can! Aren’t! Always! Boomers! Tons of them are Gen X! And an increasing number are millennials! I haven’t seen a Gen Z billionaire yet but I’m willing to bet there’s a couple by now!
Oh, and it’s not like they “don’t know” how much people want to do these sorts of jobs - they do! That’s how they justify underpaying people, because it’s your passion, you don’t ~need~ to be paid a living wage for your passion.
You have more in common with poor boomers than you do with Kylie Jenner (born 1997). Go and talk to them. Organize with them. You’ll find they have a lot to offer once you stop dismissing them as rich old folks who ruined the economy.
I just wish I could learn every language and all the histories and about everyone's food and folklore and... 😔 but i only have one brain and it is small and malfunctioning
look man, life is hard and the rules of society are complex
but let people off the fuckin train before you try to get on
and don’t play your goddamn music on your phone speakers in public
@plaintiveheart
playing music on your phone is disruptive to everyone around you and it inevitably sounds like shit.
reading a book in public isn’t a problem because it is not disruptive to everyone around you.
“I’m reading this book in public so you’ll see me doing it” what the fuck is wrong with you
Do you realise it’s OK to just fucking live sometimes or has social media fried brain so bad you’re incapable of doing anything that isn’t a performance
You are a simulacrum of yourself
Listen I love making friends, I AM the person who will see you reading a book that I enjoyed and think “what if we are going to be besties,” I fucking love small talk. but the BUS is not where to make friends. we can make friends at a concert or a cafe or a public park or a hobby store or a gaming meet up or the library. MAYBE if we have the same commute and see each other on the bus every day for like a couple of weeks and every day we each bring our book THEN it would ok to say hello but otherwise we are not going to make friends on the bus. a good rule of thumb is, Can this person easily walk away from me? If the answer is NO, leave them ALONE. if you want to make friends consider, step one, respecting other peoples’ boundaries and not playing your music on the bus.
I resent the inevitable consequences the second law of thermodynamics has on my tea and the entropy of the universe. It always happens too damn soon.
The hell do you mean “use a tea light” you’re telling me those things can be used to heat tea???
Fam I’ve been lied to and deceived
Wait please what are you being told, this has raised many questions about tea lights for me.
Apparently the way you’re supposed to use tea lights is like this
Which no one ever told me is possible or exists and might now become my villain origin story after suffering years of cold tea
I’m sorry they’re what
They heat tea. They heat tea because they’re tea lights. They’re named that way because they’re literally devices to keep your tea warm and somehow no one has ever told me this and they’re tea lights to heat tea and I might just—[CENSORED]
I’m glad we’re all having a normal one today folks
….. I thought it was as in tea-ny lights like…… teeny lights
…I can’t believe I never thought about the ‘tea’ of ‘tea lights’. Like I just thought you lit them for ambiance with your tea.
You guys are beautiful dummies, yes this is what tea lights are for and also:
There are electric mug warmers for not much (or very much, depending on how you roll) money, please invest in these so that you do not accidentally set fire to something.
If anyone is interested in the glass tea warmer/teapot up there for the aesthetic, I’ve known the owner of that business for years and done some work with her!!
You can find the tea warmers here. There are also gift sets that include one, like the Dream set, if you want the whole blooming tea experience lol.
