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will byers there are no words to express how proud of you i am
ok so mike IS just badly written. ok. yeah I'm not upset that my favourite character doesn't make sense
mike wheeler not being able to tell his gf i love u back for one. last. time. you'll always be a loser.
st5 byler spoilers
it just felt particularly mean the way they did it. “not friends……..best friends.” like that was vile. you did that to bait us one last time. it’s like bragging.
fuck you duffers.
so mike wheeler was just canonically being homophobic when he wouldn't hug will at the airport or said it wasn't his fault will didn't like girls or pushed him to dance with the girl at the snowball. cool cool cool cool.
Don't waste your time.
Don't watch.
Don't give them another second of viewership.
i think theyll make will turn evil then kill him js like they flayed billy then killed him, there r so many parallels between these two starting w the fact that theyre both williams
Hey so this is crazy
"nobody needs me." "i do. i need you."
Yall we are so fucking back holy shit
THIS JUST CONFIRMED BYLER ENDGAME
I can’t believe it’s an accident. Byler endgame in the last 2 seconds fuck it all what do we have to lose
The way Dawson’s Creek is also one of the Duffer Brothers favorite shows is just like… okay come on this has to be intentional right?? RIGHT?? They even renovated the real-life location of Rink o Mania to match the lighting of the gay bar scene in Dawson’s Creek
A lot of people talk about Will’s coming-out scene mainly in terms of writing choices. And I understand why — it is a writing issue. But what still isn’t talked about enough is what this scene meant for Noah himself.
Because this wasn’t just a bad or clumsy moment in the script. It was a gay actor being asked to perform a coming-out written by straight men who ultimately did not listen to him.
Noah didn’t approach Will’s story casually. Over the years, he’s spoken many times about how deeply personal Will’s journey is to him, how much he cares about the character, and how strongly he wanted Will’s arc to be handled with honesty and respect. He has said that he talked to the Duffers, that he suggested changes, that he tried to advocate for Will. And yet, despite all of that, the final version of the scene places Will in a situation where he has no agency at all: a public space, surrounded by people he barely knows, pushed into coming out by fear rather than choice.
Let’s be honest — no queer person comes out like that by choice. Not in a crowded room. Not because a supernatural villain might weaponize their identity. Not without privacy, safety, or control. And Noah had to stand there and act it, fully aware of how wrong and vulnerable it felt, knowing that this moment would be analyzed, debated, and replayed endlessly.
Especially when we know this moment could have been handled differently. It has been confirmed that the coming-out was at one point considered as a private scene between Joyce and Will — something intimate, safer, and centered on Will’s choice rather than fear. That option wasn’t taken. Instead, the scene leans toward exposure and urgency, on public humiliation and it’s hard not to feel that Noah’s perspective, as a gay man playing a gay character, wasn’t fully taken into account in that decision.
What makes it even harder to sit with is how long he had to live inside that moment. The scene reportedly took around twelve hours to film. That means returning to the same emotional place again and again — not something gentle or affirming, but a worst-case scenario that many queer people spend their lives hoping they will never experience.
And the truth is, the scene only works at all because of Noah’s performance — not because it was particularly well written. He carries it entirely on his shoulders. The hesitation, the fear, the visible discomfort, the bravery that feels forced rather than celebratory — all of that comes from him. The script offers very little subtlety or care, but Noah fills in the gaps with vulnerability and restraint, giving the moment a humanity it otherwise wouldn’t have. If a weaker actor had played that scene, it likely would have fallen apart completely. Instead, Noah gives it emotional weight and sincerity. In doing so, he saves it — and that’s exactly where the problem lies. His real identity, his lived experience, becomes emotional labor used to prop up a scene that didn’t offer him dignity or protection in the first place.
What does deserve to be acknowledged is that after filming the scene, Noah did have support from the rest of the cast. We’ve seen BTS moments, like Finn hugging him once the cameras stopped rolling. That support matters. It shows that, on a human level, he wasn’t completely alone after such an intense experience. But care after the fact doesn’t undo what the scene demanded of him.
This speaks to a broader issue: how easily queer pain becomes a narrative tool, how often queer actors are expected to endure discomfort in the name of “impact,” and how rarely that emotional cost is acknowledged once the episode airs.
If this scene affected you, if it stayed with you emotionally — as it did with me — that’s largely because of Noah’s performance. His honesty, vulnerability, and restraint made it feel real. And it is possible to appreciate that while still saying how bad this scene was and that the way this moment was constructed — and the emotional burden it placed on him — shouldn’t be brushed aside or minimized.
This is about how queer actors are still not fully trusted to tell their own stories. How their boundaries are overlooked. How their pain is framed as “good television.” If this scene moved you, thank Noah — because the writing alone didn’t do that. He did.
And that’s not something I’ll ever call okay.
twitter is hilarious sometimes LMAOOO sdfghjkhgf no bc for real
Call me parasocial and delusional but Noah genuinely looks depressed here
GIF by finnoahsource on tumblr
Imagine you’re gay and they make you come out by promoting their sponsors in front of 15 people while you’re having a panic attack
I can’t bro
So for Will it was “never about Mike” but for Max it was “always about Lucas” rather than her song? Make it fucking make sense
Either blatant homophobia and misogyny or they’re making room for Byler to get together in the finale with the set up that Will chooses Mike because he wants him and not because he thinks he needs him.
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will's coming out scene is equivalent to max's letters. it's his goodbye letter.
me liking both byler endgame and byler bones posts