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every day i do think about how there is just So Much you miss if you only watch the PHM movie because there are so many moving parts during the course of the project that you get to learn about that the movie Barely touches on.
like it is actually very important that you learn about who initially came up with the centrifuge design system for the Hail Mary and that she was one of the scientists that disagreed with Grace and he still doesn't like her for it and the feeling is mutual but he still acknowledges how fantastic her idea is because of course it is. She is the whole reason the ship works in a way that is vital to the mission.
It's important that you understand that Strat finds the world's leading climatologist to tell her exactly what mandmade catastrophe would increase greenhouse gases exponentially because it doesn't matter that it fucks with the world's ecosystem as long as it buys the earth more time while the sun actively cools down due to the astrophage infection.
It matters that you know she took a man out of prison for involuntary manslaughter because of his idea to pave vast amounts of land with solar panels to breed astrophage faster. It matters that you remember with Grace that paving a vast chunk of the Sahara Desert with these solar panels fucked up weather all the way up to Europe.
It matters that you understand the gravity, the desperation, and how all of it was necessary because there just wasn't enough time to work with without sacrificing something. Someone. Anyone.
It matters that you know how quickly Strat hired these people, blew off court appearances, hired convicts, and ordered bombings of the Antarctic to release gases into the atmosphere to make global warming worse. You need to understand the level of urgency, how Strat moved through these hurdles and approached solutions. How she was a history major in college and it's why she knows damn well how bad it's about to get for Earth.
Because once you know how little time the earth has, how limited the resources are, how risky the science is, how so few people are well equipped for this particular mission that is well and truly the world's only shot at surviving, you understand a lot better why forcing Grace to go was their only option after their other scientists died due to a simple, fatal flaw. Even with one scientist left in the world who was willing to go.
There is just so much information that makes everything fall into place which is why I cannot recommend the book enough for people who enjoyed the movie, or haven't seen it at all. Please Read Project Hail Mary.
i also need toriel ball analysis BAD i was so excited after chapter 4 to see where everyone thought the sans+tori and kris+susie thing was going and how kris and toriels relationship would change and where toriels character was going but as you can see that's not where the conversation has been for quite some time now...gaster is green or something and friend is eating everyone idk i just like talking about women
iâd recommend reading this little analysis i did of kris and torielâs relationship and this little analysis i did of susieâs dynamic with tenna to give a little more context on what iâm going to discuss here, because i have touched on some of the building blocks of their dynamic in those analyses. that said, lightners and darkners alike usually donât behave by genre conventions for the sake of them â part of deltaruneâs modus operandi is taking common tropes and putting full people behind them. if a character acts âtropeâ-ish, thereâll often be a feeling placed behind that behavior, rather than the behavior existing simply because it is expected. if a character is treated as a tool in another sort of story, that becomes an aspect of the character themselves.
itâs fairly well-known by now that toriel is taking that approach to the way the protagonistâs mother operates in your archetypical role-playing game. in many of these sorts of games, as toby fox himself has noted several times, the mother characters exist largely to act as set dressing. they rarely have much dialogue. they remain squarely where they are the entire game, unchanging, there to provide a home from which the protagonist can leave (and often to which the protagonist can return at any time only to leave again.) undertale puts a psychology behind this â toriel has been thrust into an endless cycle of motherhood by her grief, reliving the loss of her children over and over again as she tries to keep this one, this time, alive. motherhood was, it seems, once something that toriel had chosen freely, but it has become like a state of stasis for her now. even her home looks the same as the one her children once lived in. and deltaruneâs toriel is playing with this archetype, too â i would argue sheâs directly in dialogue with her undertale counterpart. but deltaruneâs toriel is still a slightly different person â and so deltarune explores this archetype from a slightly different angle.
toriel begins the game as someone seemingly more suited to her role. pared away from undertaleâs context, the archetypical aspects of her personality simply seem to be there because we expect them to be. no matter how many adventures kris goes on, and no matter how many aspects of their childhood they find changed by the passage of time there, they can always come back home at the end. toriel will always be at home waiting for them. there will always be a warm meal sheâs cooked for them to eat. things change, but while the rest of their family has left, toriel has stayed. toriel still watches television like she used to. toriel still holds krisâ hand when they walk to school. it is rare that we see toriel referred to without the implicit designation of being krisâ mother.
and this comes as part and parcel of the prophecy. each time darkness comes calling, the âheroesâ will drive it back, and the world will go back to the way itâs always been. the prophecy, being in-line with the stories of those archetypical role-playing games, says that the darkness must be vanquished at the end. it establishes the expectation that things will go the way these games always do. and while susie begins the story firmly questioning several different trappings of fate, that very quickly gets complicated.
as i discussed when i analyzed susie earlier â the prophecy can make you into a hero â a âgood kidâ. this, as we come to learn, is a promise sheâd do just about anything to hear. itâs pretty clear by now that susieâs had a rough life â branded a âbad kidâ just for looking the way she does, moved from place to place without her say, living in what doesnât look to be a great state even now. it tracks, i think, that as soon as susie meets toriel, she immediately latches on. susie craves the sort of home âheroesâ are supposed to have, that place that one can always come back to after their adventures are over. susie craves the promise that âsomeone out there wants youâ. that memory of toriel is what drives her, even if buried under layers of defense. and so, when toriel is taken away into the dark and that implicit promise is threatened, itâs all the more reason to heed the prophecyâs call. sheâs got to save toriel, the woman who made her into the âgirl with hope crossed on her heartâ. sheâs got to be a âheroâ. the prophecy wants her.
this mindset isnât one thatâs healthy â but understandably so, as itâs one built on a cocktail of teenage trauma responses. fate â the prophecy, the status of the darkners as objects â isnât the sort of thing you want to validate you. being a âgood kidâ means you have to be more talkative. you have to stand up straighter. you have to do as youâre told. you have to take pain in the place of others. but itâs convincing, especially for someone as lonely and in need as susie. itâs convincing for the darkners, who have been told all their lives that the only way they can be of value is if they serve those above them. and that conviction is what sends susieâs anger at the knight skyrocketing the second time it seems to have taken toriel into the dark. her initial self-assured taunting turns into a single-minded drive to take the knight down. and thatâs just what the prophecy intends â this terrible knight is threatening the mother you never had! it really is such a bad thing that theyâre making these fountains, see?
but this is where the complications come to light. the end of the prophecy presents susie with a dilemma â she canât have both the stability of hometown and the change of new dark-world friends. as much as she wants to break the cycles of her past, she canât do that in the tangle of fateâs strings. heroes have to seal the fountains and âsave the worldâ. objects have to remain objects. if susie wants to remain a âheroâ â a âuseful objectâ â she cannot build a life in the darkness.
to susie, the prophecy making her âgoodâ is why she has friends at all. she canât let it go â as a âheroâ of the prophecy, sheâll have to banish the darkness for good and let go of her friends, but if she isnât a âheroâ, she fears the sameâll still happen. sheâs still afraid of the dark. and at the end of chapter 4, the darkness isnât completely banished â night and heavy rain hang over hometown. this, then, brings us back to toriel, and the subversion of the archetype weâve now begun to take for granted.
toriel, unlike her undertale counterpart, doesnât have the loss of her children pinning her in place. the dreemurr grown-ups are clearly affected by dessâ absence, and while, thereâs much to be said about how asgoreâs particular brand of conspiring doesnât seem to be concerned with dess herself insomuch as it is with winning back toriel, toriel herself seems to have taken it fairly on the chin. her life has gone on â one of her children has gone off to university, and the other will too in the years to come. while her undertale counterpartâs grief has prevented her from gradually stepping back from motherhood as her children grow, deltaruneâs toriel is gradually doing just that. and this makes a lot of sense â from torielâs perspective, the child sheâs struggled to raise for years as a well-meaning but slightly overbearing parent has just recently begun to spend more time away from home with friends. itâs natural that someone who suspects, but who is kept out of the loop on seeming purpose (if tenna and krisâ deal is anything to go by) regarding all of the shenaniganry kris is involved in (both player-character-induced and âkeeping runaway dessâ identity as the knight a secret at dessâ own behestâ-induced,) would assume theyâre silently saying âyou donât need to hold my hand anymoreâ.
this is how we come to the subversion â if torielâs archetypical qualities arise from her circumstances in undertale, what of the toriel who hasnât those circumstances to inform her? if this were undertaleâs toriel, i imagine that susieâs âprecious memoryâ would mean just as much to her as it does to susie herself. but without those circumstances, susieâs just one of krisâ classmates. susieâs someone alphys has mentioned occasionally, a troublemaker. susie is a new face in a sea of townsfolk that give kris grief for being human, one that may have slipped through her cracks as consequence. (and susie does seem really new â she isnât even familiar with asriel, who is all anyone ever talks about in hometown.) susie is someone toriel will extend a maternal hand to when she can, but she certainly isnât seeing the faces of countless dead human children in susieâs. (as a matter of fact, she seems to have processed any grief regarding dess fairly well, and carol instead seems to be the one closer to being in the position of undertaleâs toriel.)
but to susie, itâs as if her âpurposeâ â to find toriel, to save toriel from darkness, to be a âheroâ â has been rendered moot. itâs as if sheâs become useful only to be thrown away again. susie doesnât seem distressed by the drinking â sheâs part of queenâs cheerful toasts â but rather by the fact that toriel doesnât need to be saved. sheâs laughing, and dancing, and hanging out with some blue-clothed asshole who trash-talks her child behind her back. the homemade pancakes in the fridge have all been replaced with ketchup. in the dark, toriel lets herself have the most fun sheâs had in years. in the dark, toriel is just toriel.
toriel doesnât need a âheroâ at all. toriel might not be the mother susie so desperately needs. the ending of the prophecy is horrible â but if this is what darkness brings, can she really let her fear of the dark â and the sunlit version of this world where toriel needs her â go? or will she follow the prophecy â and remain afraid?
Utena Characters Ranked Based on How Long after the Series Finale It Takes to Realize They're Gay
miki - 8 years. meets a tgirl at a college party and realizes why her best friend in high school was a lesbian
kozue - 2 years. has been fucking girls the whole time. doesn't think that's gay
touga and saionji - 9 years. have been in a committed relationship for 8 of them
shiori - 25 years. has already been cheating on her husband with men. switches to cheating on her husband with women. obsessively cyberstalks juri, who is happily marriedÂ
nanami - 2 weeks. this does not improve her personality even slightly. something apocalyptic happens with keiko at the end of week 3
i like that they just had a graphic of TV city burning down available for when tenna had a meltdown. did they have meltdown versions of the other boards too
I figured for the sake of the tumblr community i should post as many known responses as i have seen, since i dont see many people posting abt it. So here's all the ones I have seen that i can either verify or am pretty confident are legit
ID: several answers related to the deltarune page "how long did it take her to smile?"
1: you answered 0. so, "she never stopped smiling." move forward with this answer.
2: you answered 31.07 seconds. so, "before the sun went down." move forward with this answer.
3: you answered 1 day. then, "the next day, you'll see her smile." move forward with this answer.
4: you answered 5 years. then, "it was the first time she smiled since she was a child." move forward with this answer.
5: you answered 4 chapters. then, "it was the first time she ever smiled in her life." move forward with this answer.
6: you answered -2147483648. so, she felt it like a countdown. move forward with this answer.
7: you answered too long. do you think that means she still can? move forward with this answer.
8: you answered i don't know. so, you don't think it was really you who made her smile? move forward with this answer.
9: you answered she never will. is that really what you think?
10: you answered 11. if you follow the same path as everyone else you won't pass through here.
11: you answered 11 hours or 11 years. make up your mind.
12: you answered 1225. when you have a bat, everything looks like a ball. end ID
Yâknow people always talk about Susie getting dubbed the Axe of Justice and group her, undyne and Gerson together but I feel like nobody acknowledges this.
Heâs given himself a matching title to someone who, at one point, wouldâve been godly to him. With the context of his perceived betrayal by the lightners and desire for darkners to dominate, it almost comes off as blasphemous? A righteous blasphemy. Perhaps self-righteous, but perhaps not completely.
Heâs taken the title of his peopleâs former protector, when heâs also dubbed HIMSELF their protector.
He could be considered quite comparable to Undyne in their shared hatred for the people they believe to have oppressed their own, and could be compared to Susie in that theyâre both âtoys no one wantedâ, with the main difference being that King uses it as an excuse to lash out against the people around him. Even then, susie did so early on before character development set in.
Thereâs just something so interesting about him and I feel like it doesnât get brought up due to his place in the story. Heâs a corrupted mirror of everything the others to hold that title stand for.
