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I'm also working on a Marvel AU fanon project as well as a Star Wars one. In it, my idealized version of Maria Hill would have her traditional SHIELD uniform from the comics, Hill's ethnicity from Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, and Hill's characterization and personality traits from the MCU.
God, I love the idea of Jedi/Jedi romantic couples in a Post Order 66 world and it's SO underrated.
There's so few of them left, and they're all scattered to the winds so even FINDING another Jedi was a miracle in and of itself, let alone surviving long enough to develop feelings for each other. But of COURSE they develop feelings for each other because the intensity of emotions about just having another Jedi around would already be so high that it doesn't take much to evolve in certain other directions. But they're also still JEDI, so they're trying so so hard to avoid letting that intensity become a full blown attachment where they can't let go of each other if it comes to that, especially since the chances of survival are so low.
No one would understand them or what they're going through like another Jedi, no one would be able to connect with them on certain levels like another Jedi, but they're also a constant reminder of everything they've lost at the same time because maybe they never would've met or fallen in love with each other at all if they hadn't been through this shared tragedy. It doesn't make what they've lost or what they've gone through worth it of course, they'd both probably give up the relationship in a heartbeat if it meant Order 66 had never happened, but that doesn't mean that the relationship isn't meaningful in their current reality. It makes things better, it makes them happier and more hopeful, and that's worth the risk of being discovered or losing each other.
I dunno, it's just... so so good.
Having watched the trailer for "I Play Rocky", as well as having watched "The Offer" on Paramount+, I'm curious as to whether to whether or not Lucasfilm will cash in on the âBehind the Scenes" genre and produce a film or miniseries about George Lucas and his trials and turbulations during the production of the first Star Wars film?
I don't like David Colton. He's a terrible new character.
There's a popular fandom trope where the idea of "letting your emotions go" or "giving your emotions to the Force" is taken VERY LITERALLY and the Jedi seem to sort-of literally be able to just... magically send their emotions into the void and stop feeling it somehow as part of their training and abilities. And it really just doesn't work for me.
Because it makes it seem EASY. Emotional regulation is SO HARD, it takes constant effort to recognize your own emotions and choose how to react to them in the moment without letting those emotions dictate your behavior. And the emotions don't just... disappear into a void. They're not gone. You don't just stop feeling them. That's not what "letting go" means. The emotions are always STILL THERE, regardless of how you end up choosing to react to them.
That's what the Jedi are trying to teach everyone, it's a large part of what they encourage others to practice in order to make better decisions and live happier, healthier lives. But if the Jedi have a magical ability to just make their emotions disappear into a cosmic void, that makes them feel like hypocrites because it's SO MUCH EASIER for them than it would be for anyone else.
And the whole point is that it's NOT. It's not easier for them to regulate their emotions than it is for anyone else. In fact, since being Force sensitive seems to involve a certain level of empathic ability to sense other people's emotions, without them even needing to be NEARBY, it's arguably HARDER for the Jedi to regulate their own emotions and reactions than it is for anyone else. But their teachings and beliefs prioritize things like mindfulness and non-attachment, so they end up being experts at it most of the time which can make it LOOK easy to an outsider.
The Jedi are an ideal to aspire to, and that doesn't work if the beliefs they espouse are hypocritical bullshit. They can't magically send their emotions away, they're just constantly working to make sure that their actions aren't dictated by their emotions.
I feel like when people make those posts about like "If the Jedi had done everything perfectly then Anakin wouldn't have been Like That and Done Those Things" actually just want the Jedi to somehow be omniscient.
Like they need to have somehow just known from the beginning of time that Palpatine was bad and evil and manipulative and engineering their destruction so that they could make all of the perfect choices to fight that same manipulation of Anakin and the Senate. But those "perfect" choices are only available with a certain level of information that would have required literal god-level omniscience to acquire.
"If the Jedi had done everything perfectly" is a nonsense statement. They DID make all the right choices, but they made the right choices for the information they HAD, and the resources they had access to. The Jedi did everything right with Anakin. They took him in, they loved him, they made exceptions for him, they were lenient with him, they gave him the skills and tools he needed to survive and thrive, they rewarded him, they trusted him, and he murdered them anyway. The Jedi were loyal to the Republic's ideals and protected as many people both within the Republic and outside of it as they could, they were capable of seeing its corruption but also capable of seeing that it was genuinely still one of the best options out there for most people, they fought against becoming soldiers and then accepted that role anyway when war broke out and people needed to be protected, and the Republic turned on them anyway. Because doing everything right wasn't enough.
I don't know how often people in other stories and in real life can say that sometimes you can do everything right and still lose before it sinks in for this fandom that it's something that also applies to THIS story. There are quite a few characters who absolutely made mistakes, who made the wrong choices, who succumbed to fear and greed and selfishness. But there are also characters who did EVERYTHING RIGHT and still lost because the whole point is to show that one person's selfishness can have a massive impact that goes much further than just them.
Antijedidiots: "the Jedi teaching from infancy is wrong, the flawed Jedi teachings are why Anakin fell"
Literally George Lucas: "if Anakin had been taken into the Jedi Order as a baby he would not have fallen"
It's kinda wild to me to see people bring up Yoda's talk with Anakin about Padme's death to say that the Jedi were wrong, when, even when Yoda's off base and not getting the full story, he was right.
Had Anakin actually listened there, he wouldn't have strangled her. He wouldn't dump everything she ever believed in in a dumpster and set it on fire, for her. It was his terror at her death that caused it. It was his attempt at stopping the prophecy that caused it.
The Jedi did not teach Anakin to ignore and suppress his emotions. The Jedi have never, at any point, said that anger was a bad thing, but they were right about the fact that anger can lead to the dark side. This isn't because feeling anger makes you bad. How you choose to process that anger is what matters. Becoming angry and slaughtering innocent people is not, in fact, the way you're supposed to handle your feelings.
The Jedi never once invalidated Anakin's pain, but taking out your pain on others is not okay. Anakin is so strong with the Force that he was able to bring two gods to their knees. No one else has that kind of power. It's the kind of power that the Jedi were trying to teach Anakin to use responsibly. It's the kind of power that the Sith preyed upon and craved because they wanted to use those powers to oppress and dominate others by any means necessary.
It takes a lot of strength to resist the dark side. A lot more strength to restrain yourself when you know the kind of damage that you're capable of doing if you decide to take your anger out on everyone else.
The Jedi were not using Anakin for his powers. Darth Sidious was using Anakin for his powers and accusing the Jedi of doing the things that Darth Sidious himself was guilty of doing. He was the one who had been hiding things from Anakin. It took Anakin 13 years to learn that Palpatine, a man he looked up to, was secretly a Sith Lord. Palpatine did not give one single shit about Anakin. He only cared about using Anakin's power to oppress people instead of helping them, and he manipulated the shit out of Anakin in the process.
Everyone in the Jedi Order knew who Anakin Skywalker was. The Jedi trusted him. Many of them died having absolutely zero idea that Anakin Skywalker betrayed them. Many died by Anakin's hand. Many of them were defenseless children who were not even old enough to wield their own lightsabers yet. Many of those children ran to Anakin during Order 66 because they believed he was there to help them.
Anakin's future had always been clouded and the Jedi were fully aware of just how strong he was. It's why they were so hesitant to train him initially, but they also understood it was why they needed to train him.
The Jedi Council had started to become distrustful of Anakin the more that Palpatine tried to force his way into their innermost circle through his connection to Anakin. The Jedi Council was absolutely right to be alarmed by Anakin's reaction to being denied the rank of master. The Jedi don't hand out participation trophies. Palpatine was appointing a Jedi Knight to a position on the Jedi Council that Anakin did not earn and did not deserve. In order to be on the council, you have to be a Jedi master. Anakin doesn't get to fast track his way to Jedi master by virtue of being appointed to the council by someone who wasn't even a Jedi. Palpatine appointed Anakin to the council for obvious nefarious purposes.
If Anakin had chosen to listen to Yoda's advice ("train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose") rather than buying into Palpatine's lies about being able to prevent people he loved from dying, Padme might not have even died. It wasn't wrong for Anakin to love Padme (it wasn't love that drove his actions but rather possessiveness), but he sacrificed thousands of lives just to save hers, and she still ended up dying anyway. The Jedi were executed for crimes they did not commit because Anakin allowed his fears to guide his choices, knowing the devastation he was about to cause.
The patience of the Sith is what paid off in the end. Palpatine spent 13 years grooming Anakin for this very moment. Anakin made the choice to sacrifice the Jedi, knowing what the right choice would have been, but his refusal to let go of Padme caused him to make the most selfish choice possible and the entire Jedi Order paid the price.
He chose to follow Palpatine's teachings and immediately chose to obey Palpatine's orders to kill all the Jedi at the Jedi temple. He proved he was willing to sacrifice countless lives to save one. In his mind it was completely rational to want the power to prevent others from dying while also actively taking the lives of innocents in order to learn how to achieve that power. He let his anger control his actions so much that he Force choked the woman he sacrificed the Jedi Order for because she rejected his power (which he tells her he did all for her) and told him she could no longer be with him. He accused her of betraying him even though she was trying to save him from the path he was headed down.
It's never too late to do the right thing as long as you are still alive to do the right thing. Redemption starts with a choice and has nothing to do with whether or not someone deserves it. Anakin accepting all sides of himself is what set him free. He was in a prison of his own making, tried to separate Darth Vader from Anakin Skywalker by claiming he killed Anakin. Viewed Anakin's compassion as a weakness to be ashamed of rather than a strength to be proud of.
The Jedi were not saints. There were regular people with extraordinary abilities making the choice to be the best version of themselves that they could. They learned how to achieve emotional balance, which is what made them good peacekeepers. They combat aggression through diplomacy, and the only reason diplomacy didn't work during the Clone Wars was because the Sith (Palpatine and Dooku) were never going to negotiate. They wanted to spread chaos and fear, to make people lose hope, to make people too scared to fight back, and it worked. They wanted to consolidate power. The Jedi had been turned into scapegoats, eventually labeled as terrorists, and found their very existences criminalized after the vast majority of them were massacred. Compassion became a crime while blind obedience and conformity became the law.
Anakin ultimately chose to become an instrument of the Sith. He made the choice to take out his pain on the rest of the galaxy and use his powers to strike fear into the hearts of nearly everyone he encountered. This is what happened because Anakin chose a destructive way to cope with his pain. No one else was making that choice for him. Yes, he was suffering, and there's no denying that, but it doesn't excuse the torture and death he inflicted upon his many, many victims.
Am I the only one who doesnât like how the Insomniac Spider-Man games make the villains look sympathetic? Like, I hate that!
"Luke proved that attachment was a good thing and that the Jedi were all dogmatic and wrong"
is a take that fundamentally misunderstands both Luke as a character and the entire point behind Star Wars and the Jedi religion.
Luke didn't act out of attachment. If he did he would have killed Palpatine and Vader in a desperate attempt to save his friends.
Let's actually compare this to mister attachment aka Anakin, shall we.
If Anakin was in a position where some guy (for example Dooku) was responsible for Padmé, Obi-Wan, Ahsoka, Rex etc. being in current life threatening danger, he would have killed that man and anyone who stood in his way. If there was another guy claiming to be his father that might have thrown him off for a bit but in pure rage and terror of what might happen to the people he loves he would have 10000% killed him, father or not (he literally tries to kill his surrogate father / brother out of attachment and greed and later succeeds IN THE MOVIES).
Luke however chooses AGAINST acting out of attachment. He doesn't let his fear for his loved ones control him. The literal moment he crashes out and eventually almost kills Vader is when Vader mentions Leia. His attachment to her led him to react with rage in a desperate attempt to protect her but then he realizes that that's WRONG. That he's playing into Palpatine's hands and giving himself over to the dark side, so he stops. He chooses not to become what Anakin let himself be turned into.
Luke's motivation for saving Vader is not attachment - it's compassion.
Attachment is to act on behalf of yourself. Attachment is choosing your own feelings over what the people you love would want. Attachment is sacrificing everything your wife stood for, choking her to unconsciousness because she doesn't react the way you want her to and trying to kill your own brother out of greed and jealousy. Attachment is selfish love - love that is about YOU and not the people around you.
Compassion is SELFESS love. Compassion is choosing others over yourself. Compassion is valuing the ideals and wants of the people you love - not just wanting to keep them by your side at all cost. Compassion is tossing away your lightsaber and letting yourself get tortured and almost killed because you REFUSE to act out of attachment and let anyone be hurt but yourself. Compassion is also to sacrifice yourself to save your child even though it gains you neither a better future nor him staying in your life.
Luke's compassion motivated Anakin to act out of compassion as well. That's what the movie is about, guys.
And I will once again point out what a lot of people seem to miss: Luke does actually at one point accept that he cannot save Vader
"Then my father is truly dead"
When Luke and Vader meet on Endor he tries to get Vader to leave with him, Vader rejects Luke's offer and turns him over to the Emperor, at that point Luke's plan is no longer "turn Vader", the plan is "distract these sith long enough for the strike team to take out the shield and the fleet to destroy the death star along with me and the sith"
When Sidious reveals it all to be a trap for the Rebels, Luke panics and acts in fear trying to kill Sidious (that's attachment), initiating the duel between him in Vader
It's only during that duel that Luke senses Vader's conflict, his hesitation and reluctance to kill Luke, an angle Luke can work at, so he refocuses, Luke directs his efforts at Vader, and in doing so he also lets go of his friends, he trusts that they will handle the shield, imperial fleet, and death star
Side note but related to this: attachments aren't just being possessive and unwilling to let go of people, it's not trusting them to do things themselves, it's doing everything for them because you're to afraid to let them do anything, that's what Luke did when he attacked Sidious, he didnât even give the Rebels a chance to handle the situation, he let his fears take hold and did the thing Sidious wanted him to do
Also, as a reminder, Anakin killed children just after losing his mother, so this idea that the Jedi forced him to hide his emotions and that this is the reason for his attitude is false. Anakin became a mass murderer before discussing the loss of his mother with the Jedi. And no, Padme and his mother weren't the only presents for him. Just because Padme is Anakin's enabler doesn't mean that those ready to judge him if necessary weren't there for him. The Jedi cared about him before he had them slaughtered. Obi Wan did not fail Anakin. The Jedi didn't fail Anakin. Anakin is just a piece of shit.
"Anakin fell because Obi-Wan is a bad teacher/wasnt ready to be a teacher" is bullshit, Anakin knows and understands Jedi teachings, he can explain them to non-Jedi and teach them to a Padawan
But also this just misunderstands how teaching works
Teaching is not programming you don't just input the information in and the students follow it forever, there's choice here, the student needs to listen and apply what they've learned
Also there's the fact that 99% of Palpatine's "manipulations" of Anakin are just him saying "do the opposite of what the Jedi teach"
Why do I get the feeling Avengers: Doomsday is going to create a huge influx of Doctor Doom apologists?
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The Jedi never say "you are not allowed to feel any emotion", dead horse beaten
But with that established, let's actually look at what they do say
The Jedi are always saying is "let go of your feelings" (or something to that effect)
An important distinction, as none of that ever says something to the effect of "never feel anything", quite the opposite in fact, as to let go of an emotion you need to experience it first
The answer is of course in the wording, "let go" is another way of saying "let it pass", do not dwell on it, do not become stuck in those emotions, they are temporary, but they do linger and cling when you choose to allow them, thus you must make the choice to let those feelings go
