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[nyaskitten]

I do infinitely prefer the direction they took Zane's personality in DRs4 (some personality beats no personality) but it's weird that his growth was all off-screen.

Also I don't like how he comes back as this kind of chill surfer dude and then he's talking like his usual DR self for the rest of the season. The Zane who says "surprise surprise!" and "when my powers got all janky" shouldn't be mentioning his calculations and his scans and all that other boring junk.

[sablesentry]

Sorry this is probably going to be an unhinged rant 😅

To me personally it just felt like almost forced. Like the writers went “here damn” after we begged them to fix his awful characterisation. I want to see one well handled Zane character arc on screen at this rate, it’s been years and it feels like every character except Zane (yes even including Cole) has had something interesting.

I always find it so funny as a major Zane fan because in constantly make new storylines for him in my head just fine because there’s so much potential but then the show brings me out of my delusions at how much they don’t care about his character and he’s barely relevant anymore. Yes the cast is big now but the show focuses too much on the older original ninja who had a lot of screentime unlike him or Cole. Dragons rising is not balanced enough with how they treat their original cast. Zane’s already been erased from half a season a sprinkle of focus would be appreciated

I’ve used the Never Realm excuse in my head but I fear when it gets talked about in a future DR season the writers will even fail to mention Zane’s trauma/guilt again, gloss over it or give him a poorly done character arc.

TLDR it still sucks being a Zane fan while watching Dragons Rising

[cluepoke]

After I watched @parachutingkitten 's ninjago princess video I had to draw some of them hanging out.... ohhhh its so real.

[sleepyking]

Ok let’s try this again!! Who is Wu’s favorite

Cole

Pixal

Lloyd

Nya

Zane

Kai

Jay

Voting ended onMay 19

Someone made a great point on the last Wu’s Favorite poll so—

[sablesentry]

LMAO

[chaoticazul]

I need ninjago fans' help with a gift

I know this isn't what I usually post, but my brother's birthday is coming up and I want to paint him a Ninjago themed hoodie (he's obsessed with it). Issue is, I haven't watched ninjago in a while, and when I did I only watched until season 10, so I'm not super confident on my knowledge.

Here's a sketch of what I'm planning so far (where it says name it's his name in the ninjago alphabet)

He sadly doesn't really have a favorite ninja so I can't lean into that, but he does LOVE Morro. I just don't know how to incorporate him into the design since I made it so ninja heavy. I'd really like it if I can incorporate him in ANY way, so if you're a big Morro fan or know his design very well please help.

Any suggestion or idea is super appreciated, I really want this to be accurate since he's so obsessed with it (it truly is hard to give something to a nerd lol). Thanks for reading and please send feedback! I trust you ninjago fandom!!

[sablesentry]

Hi! Morro does have his own symbol as of recently. Originally it was just a recolour of Lloyd’s but now in the reboot (dragons rising) of the show it’s this. I think it may look a bit off if you added him in the circle with original ninja. So possibly you could add it smaller to the side somehow without making it look too randomly placed. You’re an amazing sibling for this btw, this is such a thoughtful gift!

[mace-writes-draws]

I think the Ninjago fandom needs to remember that Zane is made of metal and wires more.

Just imagine, Zane’s probably the best out of the ninjas as dodging hits, and normally fights with distances weapons anyway, no one questions it because they think it’s just Zane being nice and not liking battle. Until a bad guy hits him and he’s distracted so he can’t dodge it in time. Zane is fine, he barely even felt it. But everyone froze hearing the crunch from the man’s hand—now completely broken, once the ice ninja notices he starts to apologise fiercely.

I keep seeing scenes in fics were Zane sits on someone’s lap and, just, that must hurt right? Like he’s pure titanium he can’t be light.

Also in smut fics I can’t really imagine it because…how??? He’s metal, that CANNOT be comfortable

[sablesentry]

Yeah you’re defo right! I need more fics where Zane being titanium affects his enemies in fights (since the show doesn’t acknowledge it) and not just Zane getting thrown around like a ragdoll.

Glacier is one of my fave ships and I just headcanon Cole is unaffected to Zane’s weight because of his super strength (lowkey canon in s1 based on that one ep where Zane is pink but he’s in his old body) and in the movie Cole just uses Zane as a leaning post constantly. So I just feel like Cole isn’t too bothered by it.

For the last point often fic writers don’t use titanium Zane, so I usually just imagine him as his human form even if the logistics of that doesn’t make sense. Or when he’s with Pixal I feel like she doesn’t feel the same way a human would, so enjoys his touch. (On a side note why is there basically no smut Pixane fics aside from a small amount, it’s always just Jaya nowadays 😔✌️)

[sleepyking]

Who’s you favorite Zane

Human-esque Zane

Titanium Zane

Draconus Zane

Blane

Ice Emperor Zane

Echo Zane

Administration Mail Man Zane

Zane

Secret 9th Zane

Voting ended onMay 7

This is for you @sablesentry

[geridoodles]

I'm just testing the waters here, but would people here blow up in fury if I write a pseudo analysis on Pixane and critique of Zane? Or is that something people are interested in?

Basically on why I think Pixane in the original Ninjago series is deeply flawed, how Zane isn't always treating Pixal the best, and how the show and fans gloss over Zane's bad traits and paint him as perfect. I think there was a post here in similar vein that I reblogged, but I will be much more critical of Zane than that one, and it's going to be long.

I'm so surprised how a majority of people think Pixane is the perfect Ninjago couple, as to me, some of their interactions are odd, and the relationship seems to be in favor of Zane. I posted a Samuraishipping video, and while I did explain my dislike for original canon Pixane in the comments, it seems that my opinion is deeply unpopular, and most people don't really consider the flaws of Zane's character according to my interpretation. Although, I did post a rant on why I don't like Pixane in my Instagram story, and several people did DM me in agreement.

On an unrelated note, maybe I should start posting my art here. I began this account to post mainly to post my AO3 links and pseudo analysis writing, and I wanted to keep my art on Instagram, but it seems like the lines are blurred now. Might as well post here, I suppose.

[sablesentry]

Honestly as a Zane fan I would really be interested to see it. I think the main criticisms I see is the fact that she was in his head for so long and lost all autonomy until she made the decision to rebuild her own body. But she still had to seek ‘approval’ through him after, which is inherently rather misogynistic. You can only blame bad writing for so much, because Zane never asked what she wanted and it felt like she was more like a tool to him. I think it’s a difficult conversation to have because people don’t want to see their favourites as problematic but yeah I do think Zane messed up when it came that. But I also think part of it, is just the writers not knowing what to do with Pixal and the consequence of that was making their ship have this power dynamic. Maybe I am a hypocrite because I do actually like their ship. All their (few) moments together show good chemistry and they genuinely care for each other I just find that really sweet.

The other issue is shown later in dragons rising. Zane’s dependancy on Pixal is borderline unhealthy. Obviously this a fictional kids show this was done for more a gag than anything but, irl, relationships where a partner cant function properly without their other half moslty end up being super toxic

[geridoodles]

OMG, thank you for the reblog <3 The part of keeping Pixal in his head would comprise the bulk of it, yes, and you basically summarized the general gist of what I was going to say about it, but I did find quite a few of the Pixane moments outside of that context to still have misogynistic undertones. And I find those moments are comparable to the old Jaya moments where Jay was a misogynistic jerk. I think chemistry when observing a relationship in fiction is up for interpretation, and personally, I don't see where the chemistry is.

Maybe it's also because I'm not a diehard Zane fan, or maybe it's because Jay is my favorite ninja, and us Jay fans are used to seeing Jay having a lot of a character flaws and don't "glaze" him so to speak, but I personally found Zane's character to be more complex than what the fandom seems to portray him as. For example, one trait I noticed is that in regular conversation, unprovoked and without a real reason, Zane sometimes hits (or is physically violent with) one of the other main four, most often as a joke. I'm pulling this out of my head, and maybe, there have been similar scenes for each ninja, and I just can't remember, but I find it strange this isn't really mentioned when talking about Zane. He also can be incredibly arrogant and self-confident at times. Though, like you said, it could be the writing having issues and inconsistency, or it could be just for a gag in a children's series. But again, both the show and the fandom tend to paint him as an innocent, nice, perfect guy, and I believe that's just not exactly what he is in the show.

I do actually disagree with you, surprisingly, that Zane's connection with Pixal in Dragons Rising is unhealthy. I don't think Zane was unable to function without her, it was just that her presence boosted everything. I think Dragons Rising is taking good steps towards fixing their relationship, though it's not quite there yet. I'm hoping they will continue to fix them.

[sablesentry]

For me I like Zane being portrayed as flawed and I’m actually tired of the fandom presenting him as this little guy who can do no wrong. It’s almost infantilising to portray a heavily autistic coded character as that. He does have an ego and is arrogant but it’s not as obvious as other louder characters. The Smith siblings are usually presented as the hot headed ninja which I’m not denying is true but Zane multiple times throughout the show put himself in dangerous situations without thinking. He has a saviour complex too. And then the whole thing with him being the ice emperor. He was corrupted and manipulated yes, but again he did so much evil actions, to at what point is it all Vex’s fault?

While originally I liked his character because it was just me as a kid subconsciously relating to him because of being autistic overtime I’ve grown to appreciate the fact that he is complex (despite the writers screwing him over so many times) and is a flawed character.

The thing with the violence thing, I’ve always seen that as more so sibling behaviour. Me and my brother are the exact same. We used to play fight all the time. I guess because he’s a robot being hit by him would hurt but I don’t think he’s doing it overly aggressively and the others don’t seem to care or complain about it.

Glad I can have someone to talk to about this without immediately being shut down lol

[geridoodles]

I'm just testing the waters here, but would people here blow up in fury if I write a pseudo analysis on Pixane and critique of Zane? Or is that something people are interested in?

Basically on why I think Pixane in the original Ninjago series is deeply flawed, how Zane isn't always treating Pixal the best, and how the show and fans gloss over Zane's bad traits and paint him as perfect. I think there was a post here in similar vein that I reblogged, but I will be much more critical of Zane than that one, and it's going to be long.

I'm so surprised how a majority of people think Pixane is the perfect Ninjago couple, as to me, some of their interactions are odd, and the relationship seems to be in favor of Zane. I posted a Samuraishipping video, and while I did explain my dislike for original canon Pixane in the comments, it seems that my opinion is deeply unpopular, and most people don't really consider the flaws of Zane's character according to my interpretation. Although, I did post a rant on why I don't like Pixane in my Instagram story, and several people did DM me in agreement.

On an unrelated note, maybe I should start posting my art here. I began this account to post mainly to post my AO3 links and pseudo analysis writing, and I wanted to keep my art on Instagram, but it seems like the lines are blurred now. Might as well post here, I suppose.

[sablesentry]

Honestly as a Zane fan I would really be interested to see it. I think the main criticisms I see is the fact that she was in his head for so long and lost all autonomy until she made the decision to rebuild her own body. But she still had to seek ‘approval’ through him after, which is inherently rather misogynistic. You can only blame bad writing for so much, because Zane never asked what she wanted and it felt like she was more like a tool to him. I think it’s a difficult conversation to have because people don’t want to see their favourites as problematic but yeah I do think Zane messed up when it came that. But I also think part of it, is just the writers not knowing what to do with Pixal and the consequence of that was making their ship have this power dynamic. Maybe I am a hypocrite because I do actually like their ship. All their (few) moments together show good chemistry and they genuinely care for each other I just find that really sweet.

The other issue is shown later in dragons rising. Zane’s dependancy on Pixal is borderline unhealthy. Obviously this a fictional kids show this was done for more a gag than anything but, irl, relationships where a partner cant function properly without their other half moslty end up being super toxic

[trickycharm]

[sablesentry]

Love triangle ‘rewrite’

Had a shower thought of a mini au where the love triangle is one big misunderstanding. The perfect match machine doesn’t exist but instead Nya is spending more time with Cole because she idolises his strength as a fighter and wants the respect he has. She still feels undervalued, even as Samurai X, by the team and wants to be taken more seriously like the others but especially Cole (in this au Cole would still have more of a leader role than Lloyd since I still hate the fact that Lloyd lost his entire childhood and was thrusted into all that responsibility by Wu). Jay still gets the complete wrong idea so his end of the plot is similar to the original, constantly fighting with Cole (who’s oblivious this whole time still and is just going along with it to spite Jay). So it plays out the same up until s4 when in ‘Versus’ they make up and Cole also just comes out as gay too because why not this my au.

I just think the love triangle could of been used in a better way since it made both Cole (for going along with it) and Nya (for not putting a stop to it and leading them on) out of character. And also felt a bit misogynistic to me, so making it about Nya’s self doubts would nicely transition into her arc in season 5 of becoming the water ninja.

Would love to hear your thoughts and any other suggestions

[sablesentry]

Zane fangirils imma get laid. On indigo who is a hopeless loser will get laid

[noeleon]

a very long time ago i had the idea for a ninjago x sanrio collab, where the ninja would be paired with a sanrio character i think best represents them and wear themed outfits based off that character... after working on these for a month, I finally finished it!! 🩷🎉

it was hard to draw these while working full time but im happy theyre done 😢

[sablesentry]

Need to read more Zane focused fics! Please drop your faves in tags or replies 🙏🙏

(Most likely I’ve already read them but hey at least I’m trying 😭)

[mimenoises]

The only part of the new season that matters

[melonluvr37]

jay regaining his memories is the perfect opportunity for zane to revisit his time as the ice emperor. to help jay move on, as he had to. to come to terms with his stay in the never realm.

but the writers aren't good enough for that.

[sablesentry]

Minor DRS4 spoilers (aka me ranting about a small insignificant one liner 😭)

I appreciate Zane is better character wise but DR forgetting Zane is a good chef pains me. Maybe because he was acting strange he just pushed his hobbies aside so Mr Frohicky never knew Zane actually can cook but the show constantly contradicting old things is annoying

[sablesentry]

To people who have watched dragons rising already could you not spoil it but just answer me truthfully, are there good Zane scenes? I don’t want to put myself watching it knowing his writing is still bad and he has zero significance to the plot again 😭