I must confess, when I first came back to Sebastian Stan fandom, I didnât give a fuck about AW. I left when the whole shitshow with Ale imploded, so I didnât know anything about his personal life anymore.
I read some positive things about her and started following her, mostly because I knew Sebastian was no longer active on social media, thinking I would see content from him through her account (thing that never happened but I saw his elbow and his shoe though so thanks Annie I guess) and thatâs when I understood she didnât post anything about him at all, so I unfollowed her, but kept seeing her content thanks to Sebastian fans and I almost had an aneurysm seeing the way they all act towards her đŁ
Honestly I donât have a problem with people being their fans, I guess weâre all allowed to support whatever actors or artists they wantâthe real problem is when people overcompensate and has this cult-behavior around her.. and not enough with that, the fact people were always looking out for what the âhatersâ say about them, taking screenshots and posting them in their space. Iâve been in fandoms since 2010 with different people and Iâve never experienced that, like, why would you be feeding that?
I gotta thank them, I discovered anti-blogs thanks to them, first I started reading things with skepticism, the more I read I was sort of fascinated with peopleâs point of view on things and I built my own opinion on her.
Yes folks, sheâs not a sweet person as you all claim she is. She has shown mean girl behavior, but my breaking point was when she posted people from Mexico as if they were attractions, people defended her in the comments and I was like wtf?
Do you really think she posted this things out of âadmirationâ for our culture? Even watching her behavior at the red carpets where she side eyed Sebastianâs fans and mocked Nicolas Cageâs wife? (And no, sadly itâs not something we invented, there are videos that are very telling)
The way Sebastianâs smile dropped so fast while he says no? God knows what she was saying.
Moving forward to my next point⌠some of you people are not her fans. Yâall just follow her because she âgives you accessâ to Sebastian, which, fair, like I stated earlier I also did at the beginning. What itâs not fair is the way you âblindlyâ support her and defend her behavior just because sheâs with him. Thereâs some problematic behavior there, and when people point out what is your defense? âOh well, yeah, Sebastian did worse, heâs with her, so he must be like herâ. Or your favorite one: âHeâs not going to fuck youââ girl, if you think thatâs an insult you must be projecting so bad.
And honestly, letâs face it. Heâs handsome and everything, but to have a partner who always looks like this while heâs out with me?
Peopleâs excuse has been âoh itâs just that the paps piss him offâ
Sorry to disappoint you but..
While heâs like this with other womenâŚ
So yeah, I wouldnât want to be in her place.
And I understand there are some people whoâs extremist in both sides, but itâs time for you all to open your freaking eyes and loose your rose-tinted glasses.
Wake up! Defending her wonât give you a free-pass to Sebastian, and given her attitude I bet she would probably scoff past you if yâall ever had the chance to meet her.
And Iâm sad to let you know⌠Youâre not her fan either. You always keep making everything about him, even when itâs her life, her projects, her friends you always dissect every pixel of her story looking for scraps of Sebastian. You just treat her as an extension of him, which honestly itâs sad for her.
What would be the point of making a statement about the case if absolutely no one except Sebastian's fans is implicating her? And why don't you demand the same statement from Leto's ex-girlfriends, from his other, much more influential friends, from DC- Warner for giving him the role of the Joker, from Moebius's production company, from the clothing brands that invited him to fashion shows, etc., etc.? You only demand it from Annabelle because she's your beloved Sebastian's girlfriend. ////
Because why should she get a pass just because sheâs a Z list actress? One of her own fan pages said they were stopping activities because continuing to support her and not knowing explicitly where she stood made them uncomfortable- thatâs who deserves a statement. Because clearly the people that support her (and not the ones just pretending to like her because of her proximity to Sebastian) just want to know that the person theyâre a fan of isnât friends with a predator present day. Itâs really that simple. No one gives a shit about what power she has, sheâs just one person. Itâs so the people that want to support her can do so freely without feeling like theyâre supporting someone that condones that behavior.
And Iâm sorry, these âwhat aboutâ arguments are so fucking stupid. âWhat aboutâ - CALL THEM OUT TOO! Whoâs stopping you?? Iâve seen people calling out studios and filmmakers that continue to employee him, his ex partners, his ex friends, the people that continue to hype him up and discredit his victims. Just because youâre not seeing it within your own little corner of the internet doesnât mean itâs not happening and it doesnât mean that no one here is calling for it either. This space does tend to focus on Sebastian and Annabelle so itâs to be expected that her name pops up the most, donât be dense.
DOES NOT EQUATE TO HELPING YOUR PERVERSE, EVIL GUY BESTIE RUN HIS OWN PERSONAL SEX RING. (((
There is no evidence whatsoever for that allegation. It has been nothing more than a biased assumption made by a hater. In none of the thousands of articles and reports, nor in the documentary, is Annabelle mentioned at all. She is not implicated in the case in any way. None of the victims has said anything about her.
You can dislike Annabelle for many reasons, but trying to drag her into a case this serious, and blaming her for it, is not right. They were friends, nothing more. They were never a couple and they never lived together. It is entirely possible that she knew nothing.
Leto has continued to be invited to events (for example, several times to the Met Gala) even after the accusations from young girls already existed, and you are not going after those people or institutions. You demand that Annabelle delete her photos with him on Instagram and issue an apology note, yet none of the friends, acquaintances, e-girlfriends (Scarlett, Lupita) colleagues, or brands that have hired him over all these years have done so. Why arenât you demanding the same from them as well?
Let it be clear that I am not defending Annabelle. I am only saying that this extremely serious subject should not be used. You are not focusing on the only person who is actually responsible: Leto himself. Instead, you are using the pain and trauma of these women to feed your war against Annabelle. There are plenty of things to criticize her for, but the Leto case has nothing to do with her. She was just a work colleague.
its the way that you think staying SO CLOSE to someone like him for ALMOST A DECADE at her big age would be naive and stupid not to know who he was and what he was doing, im not blaming her for anything he did, she needs to be held accountable by being SO VOCAL towards HIM for that many years
because in her own words from 2019 âI like bravery and I like brave peopleâ you canât go be preaching about being a voice to others when YOU arenât putting the example out there
âThey were friends and nothing moreâ âShe was just a work colleagueâ you seem PRETTY sure about this, you are putting your hands in the fire for her claiming that she was naive to all of it while at the same time she didnât had a problem with him calling her Britain's Hot Dog Eating Champion and she calling him Pootang King IN PUBLIC mind you, is it so hard for her to separate herself from him EVERYWHERE ?? why on earth would you wanna be connected to that person to THIS DAY?
I donât demand nothing for Scarlett or Lupita because they werenât calling him Bestie or Mentor or the other nickname i mentioned and funny you wanna bring them too to stop focusing on AW
and yes this is something to criticize her too because she claims to be a feminist, but wait itâs true, all she does is performative and fake, my bad
I believe the movie was endings beginnings and there's a scene where I mean it's very famous scene where she's sitting down I believe it's on the table and he looks at her and he takes her face in both his hands and the look on his face I swear if a man ever looked at me like that I would just melt like a piece of ice in August.... I mean and this is in a movie I mean if he can look at someone like that in a movie and he can't look at his real life girlfriend like that if I can find the scene I'll send it but I'm pretty sure everyone knows which one I'm talking about. ///
Oh, the worst part is that he CAN look at his girlfriend like that...just not his current one.
Some people say he was just acting, others say it was real. But for those who claim he was acting:
1. Why is it PR with Alejandra, but not with Annabelle?
2. If he was "acting" like that with Alejandra, then why doesn't he do the same with Annabelle? Exactly. He just doesn't want to.
"But at least she's the one having his baby."
And why is that supposed to be a good thing? I'd rather the father of my child treated me with love than...well...like this.
Now with his ex-girlfriends.
That's the problem. I've never seen this man look at Annabelle that way. Sure, there have been moments where he was smiling or seemed happy, but never like that. He just doesn't want to, and that's that. I get that he's gotten older and may have matured, but come on...the way you show affection never changes, no matter how much you mature. It just doesn't.
I'm gonna post my favorite one of all too. Sorry, but whenever I post these photos, this one has to be included.
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barnesmaite coming with the evidenceđŹ
someone her sucked the life out of him jesus christ
funny how his own fans crawl out of their caves to keep throwing him under the busđ
saying white man have the worst fans and sebastian ends up being worse in the same posts ITS CRAZY WORK, the call is coming from inside the house girl
im warning you, so what? are we expecting a thread cancelling him or something? go ahead! be the best fan in the world!! do everything so your dear mommy stays in the clean !! mind you we are judging her because to this day she is still so proud of her best friend, you can go check her own instagram !! btw having more photos with her 10 year old decade bestie still up but nothing about the love of her life? thatâs definitely a choice
btw why didnât you tweeted this in english to reach more fans like you? đ¤Š
People who like to keep track of things. How many weird things happened while they are already expecting? ///
Oh, I have some. Apparently, she was pregnant by the first week of Nov 2025 so:
Nov 17 - Sebastian gives a heartfelt speech to his bestie Renate thatâs more thoughtful than anything heâs said about AW.
Dec 21 - the Sebastian and Ana De Armas pap photos are released from LA where he checks out her booty.
Jan 8 - Deuxmoi shares first photo of Sebastian and AW in months at restaurant with Emrata that feels odd.
Feb 2 - AW posts walking her dogs alone in NY during the blizzard while Sebastian is in France for his fashion week shoot.
Feb 15 - pap walk of Sebastian and AW during Valentines where he looks exhausted and not #loveydovey.
Feb 16 - Sebastian is seen with Tessa Thompson at Ami Paris event looking way better.
March 16 - they leak the baby news to TMZ the day after the Oscars without directly confirming it.
April 8 - Sebastian looks visibly uncomfortable, doesnât smile, and ignores when autograph reseller stalker congratulates him on the baby, only replying happily about the Batman casting. Heâs papped with casting director Carmen Cuba at a screening smiling more than he ever does with AW.
mid April - at some point Sebastian does his Deadline photoshoot in NY and looks depressed as hell.
April 13-May - AW starts doing pap walks wearing tons of layers trying to exaggerate her bump and Deuxmoi doesnât even call her pregnant in the captions.
May - Sebastianâs godmother Anastasia gets AWâs name wrong âAnnabellaâ on IG live and says she wants to have a party for Sebastian.
May 11 - Sebastianâs Deadline interview is out where he uses vague word salad about fatherhood.
May 16 - Sebastian is papped at France airport arriving for Cannes and AW isnât with him.
May 17 - The Women in Motion Awards fiasco where Sebastian canât even fully touch AW and she doesnât want to pose cutesy with him.
May 18 - AW doesnât stay for Sebastianâs film premiere at Cannes and goes to Chopard Gala instead. After when they are seen leaving together he doesnât even check on her in the car or sit next to her.
May 19 - Sebastian attends Fjord Cannes press conference and addresses the change in his life without sharing any excitement.
May 23 - Fjord wins Palme DâOr and Sebastian gives his director Cristian a kiss on the cheek aka more affection heâs ever shown AW.
May 24 - Sebastianâs manager Emily lets fans follow her priv IG and posts photo of Sebastian and AW for the first time smiling on a boat during Cannes where the bump is different looking, as if to prove something.
June 19 - AW goes to world cup final with her brother without Sebastian during a heatwave apparently in her last week of pregnancy.
August 1 - AW wellness mag interview releases whereâs congratulated on the baby, and she says her child will come into a safe and stable loving environment because sheâs worked so hard on herself, copying some of Sebastianâs quotes about liking Carl Jung and mindfulness. Thereâs no new photo of her and they use pic from a decade ago.
August 3 - TMZ claims from a source that AW gave birth last month, without confirmation from her or Sebastian and no new exclusive info, and thereâs been no sighting of Sebastian since he was still filming in the UK. It also happens to distract from terrible headlines about a terrible man AW used to call her bestest friend.
son, you actively participated in so many pap walks you probably self funded that paparazzi company, son what do you mean you try to keep that one part private
[Stan] Itâs the one thing I try to keep private *proceeds to get papped looking at ADA ass*
They were the ones who dug up proof that Alejandra was racist and trashed her relentlessly. Yet, when thereâs plenty of evidence that Annabelle is problematic too, they turn a blind eye and pull arguments out of their asses to defend her. What changed? Does your moral compass shift depending on who Sebastian is dating? And Iâm not defending him. Heâs an adult; if he thinks his ex-girlfriends' and current girlfriend's behavior is totally normal, then heâs trashâjust like Annabelle.
they really think its because we are some jealous fans that want to fuck Sebastian, well news flash people, not everyone wants to do it! and they did then what? doesnât change the fact that their dear Annabelle Wallis was PUBLICLY friends with L*to from 2010 to 2018! thats an 8 YEAR FRIENDSHIP (with dating rumors too btw) also her longest public relationshipâ¤ď¸ isnât that cute? yes while L*to its the worst person on earth right now, he was still linked to Annabelle which is STILL linked to Sebastian, so yes Sebastianâs Lawyer, this is to call her out and make her accountable to AT LEAST have the DECENCY to delete her photos with this predator in support of the victims, because yes we donât know if she had any participation in this things, but what if she did? she is still publicly acknowledge him TO THIS DAY
oh and donât try to act like victims now when yâall participated and wanted Alejandra to take accountability too for her past
this is how it looks like when you think this is just drama in a fandom:
and you, i didnât expect anything from you, but to throw Sebastian (your alleged fav) under the bus for someone like Annabelle Wallis? my god, she will make another racist or xenophobic thing and you guys will find a way to blame him or Alejandra AGAIN, that btw her accusations were years ago too
and because youâre thinking that âby associationâ what does that make YOU? if youâre saying you stan TWO people that has make bad things? doesnât that make you THE WORST of all? â¤ď¸ the fucking audacity to blame THE FANS for wanting Annabelle to take accountability the same way YOU did to Alejandra at the time, oh right now it doesnât fit your narrative of a perfect couple, you donât wanna cancel your poor mom so she keeps giving you crumbs of the man you say âyou stanâ because by the looks of it you donât btw, trying to change the narrative AGAINST HIM for something SHE DID its crazy work but what do we expect from you all
this is how it looks like when you think this is just drama in a fandom:
and you, i didnât expect anything from you, but to throw Sebastian (your alleged fav) under the bus for someone like Annabelle Wallis? my god, she will make another racist or xenophobic thing and you guys will find a way to blame him or Alejandra AGAIN, that btw her accusations were years ago too
and because youâre thinking that âby associationâ what does that make YOU? if youâre saying you stan TWO people that has make bad things? doesnât that make you THE WORST of all? â¤ď¸ the fucking audacity to blame THE FANS for wanting Annabelle to take accountability the same way YOU did to Alejandra at the time, oh right now it doesnât fit your narrative of a perfect couple, you donât wanna cancel your poor mom so she keeps giving you crumbs of the man you say âyou stanâ because by the looks of it you donât btw, trying to change the narrative AGAINST HIM for something SHE DID its crazy work but what do we expect from you all
Honestly it's so disappointing to see Sebastian be connected to someone like this. Annabelle Wallis 100% knew what this guy was on because all these accusations come from the time she publicly called him "Best Friend" and fucking "Papa Pootang". Her fans can excuse her all they want but the truth is they were CLOSE in those years (from 2013 to 2018) which btw, people have been KNOWN L*to is a creep since 2002.
And yeah Sebastian most likely didn't knew about her past, but if after this he still keeps her around well, good luck to your fanbase Sebastian, good luck on your precious career and Oscar noms, YOU have done the right thing before, you need to grab your big boy pants and do something about it, because if it came to light that your partner was especially close to a predator after all this time I would hope you'd do something about it. Especially if a baby is involved.
I really really hope he acknowledges this one way or another because if Annabelle was friends with L*to DURING THIS FUCKED UP behavior, we don't know how much of L*to stuck to her, as the saying goes you are the company that you keep, i'm not sorry, and she even LOVED HIM in 4K:
this comparisons will never not be funny, bro canât even look at her / and he is still with annabelle and he will have a baby with her so your point is uselessđđ
here is your star for being a good fan âď¸
i just love how you guys reduce her to being a pregnant woman to him only, keep going
hey so this is for the Twitter gals who always come up and lurk here to screenshot and then take to your space and comment about it, WHY ARE YOU HERE?
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Iâm not defending anyone, but this can go both ways. There are blogs that post content from shipper accountsâsometimes things that don't even have to do with Sebastian, but rather other fandoms or personal matters. Or thereâs a blog around here that calls one of the shippers an Israeli agent, knowing full well how sensitive that topic is.
unluckily Iâm not able to control what other people post in here or what they joke about, but yeah I agree itâs something coming from both sides.
the thing about my post is that they (sebtwt/shippers) are always complaining about it but instead of helping their cause theyâre just throwing gasoline to the fire, spreading whatâs said in here and feeding the masses with what they supposedly hate. Again, I wasnât aware of gossip blogs until some of them posted screenshots or links to here and Iâve been a Seb fan since 2016 or so and a tumblr user since 2013, finding out about hate blogs from their alleged fans was certainly interesting.
Just some thoughts I got after scrolling through my main on Twitter ~
hey so this is for the Twitter gals who always come up and lurk here to screenshot and then take to your space and comment about it, WHY ARE YOU HERE?
or why are you lurking in TikToks about people who doesnât like her to read the comments?
believe me when I say blocking an account is way much easier and takes less time than screenshotting and making a tweet about it. Never in my 10 years of using tumblr Iâve run into content I donât want to see after spotting it once, and thatâs because I usually mute and block accs with unwanted content. Yeah, I know the tags are there but believe me when I say, once youâve blocked the anti-blog, you no longer have to deal with it.
youâve been targeting other people with the excuse theyâve been misogynistic against AW and making poor comments about her, but babes I have a groundbreaking thing to say: Annabelle doesnât see any of the hate she receives in other platforms, not when people like @/WeirdGirl2001x or @/allegedlore in Twitter with less than 100 followers post it, but there might be a chance that you, big account with +1K followers drag attention to that negativity â honestly, you (the âgood sideâ of the fandom) are the ones who brought me here mentioning once and over this spaces which honestly is kind of odd considering how much you claim to love their relationship. You just love throwing gasoline to the fire only to seek validation to get pats on your back and a congratulations for being âa better fanâ, you just wonât admit it.
on a side note: I donât agree with people who go and directly question her in her social media, I believe is unnecessary, and I donât justify those actions by any means, but I believe itâs useless to start a fight on the comments, or screenshot or worse doxx that people and send hate. Youâre just repeating a pattern of what youâre trying to stop.
he's bleeding out + choking on his own blood + the entirety of fisk's task force is after him + he's smiling while matt is choking him half to death. this is so sick and twisted WHAT IS HIS PROBLEM
