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Favorite infiltrator of transfeminist circles, deepseametro, sexually harassed me on my old account, and then he blocked me because I told him again that he sexually harassed me. I don't understand why we look up so heavily to these types, and only casts further doubt onto the notion of TME allies to transfeminism that remain unchecked by trans women writ large. We have to be more vigilant of cryptoterfs and transmisogynists opportunistically acting as fairweather allies, and criticize them ruthlessly for their failings.
The biggest lesson to take from this is that you can't take your eyes off someone forever, especially if they're "one of da good ones" or whatever. The closer they are, the more deeply the knife can be plunged in your back. I still don't forgive him for what he did to my friend Connie, tactless though she might be.
Favorite infiltrator of transfeminist circles, deepseametro, sexually harassed me on my old account, and then he blocked me because I told him again that he sexually harassed me. I don't understand why we look up so heavily to these types, and only casts further doubt onto the notion of TME allies to transfeminism that remain unchecked by trans women writ large. We have to be more vigilant of cryptoterfs and transmisogynists opportunistically acting as fairweather allies, and criticize them ruthlessly for their failings.
I don't have much of a stance on baeddels, because i'm not good enough at tumblr archaeology to have one. I have actually done research, because trans women are interesting to me. It seems to have been a small tumblr clique of trans women in the early 2010s? And they had some particular transmisogyny analysis? They imploded around 2014, after only getting started around 2013, as these culty cliques tend to do due to sexual abuse and personal conflicts.
But i can't get any firm grip on who they were and what they believed. It seems lost to time. There is not much evidence as blogs are deleted and are not archived well. Like this post tries to be a comprehensive explanation of who baeddels were, but if you check the sources it's mainly links to non-baeddels explaining what baeddels believed. There is like one archive link that doesn't fully work. The post is essentially third-hand hearsay. Of course I suspect the primary sources are mostly gone at this point. Because the baeddels mainly existed on social media, so much is erased or lost, they are mostly a memory at this point. It does feel like tumblr archaeology, this feels like trying to understand some early christian sect who we only know from accounts of people who opposed them.
Like the baeddels didn't publish books to my knowledge, or seem to have been in the habit of writing manifestos or explanations of what they believed. Like it's not with radfems where you can easily read Shulamith Firestone's The Dialectic of Sex or Ti-Grace Atkinson or Janice Raymond to find out what kind of bullshit they were on.
I'm not convinced the baeddels were like a distinct movement with a well-defined ideology, as that post linked above seems to argue. That they explicitly believed that gender is a choice and choosing to be a man is bad. There is just not enough evidence to do that. Like the primary sources the post have is screenshots of self-described baeddels making mean-spirited posts about transmascs. A lot of it is pretty bad, but doesn't create a picture of a well-defined ideology. I'm not convinced there was really a "baeddelism".
Like I haven't been convinced the baeddels were anything but a specific clique of tumblr trans lesbians who found out about the word baeddel and reclaimed it, believing it to be root of the english word "bad", had a transmisogyny analysis and had some bad, hateful rhetoric directed towards transmascs. Like none of that makes for a distinct ideology, no matter how incoherent.
Part of it that it seems that the baeddels were a relatively small group, that probably had an outsized impact on tumblr discourse. Like I've heard assessments that are like the core baeddel group was like 8-10 people.
The closest thing I found to a baeddel manifesto is this medium post which was published years after the baeddel clique seems to have imploded, and I don't know the connection the person who wrote it had to the original baeddels. I don't know if they thought this is a good summary of their thinking or not. Most of the text is defensive and presents what is basic transfeminist analysis as baeddel theory, which I don't think they can claim? It's not a reliable guide, especially being from 2017.
If you argue that baeddelism is something like "Transmisogyny exists, it's a real systematic oppression that transfems face, and yes, even TME trans people can perpetrate it", I guess I'm a baeddel? This strikes me as basic transfeminist theory, a basic transmisogyny theory as Julia Serano put it. If this is baeddelism, most transfeminists are baeddels.
And here I think the problem lies with "baeddel" as it's used today. They were probably never a well-defined ideological group, but tied together more by personal relationships (which is why they imploded when those relationships turned abusive) and some shared rhetoric. And a lot of what they actually believed is lost to time, due to them only being online and on tumblr specifically.
So "baeddel" has become such a loose word that it can be removed from the context of the tumblr baeddel clique and applied as an insult to practically anyone. The way I seen it used it often means "transfem who writes mean things about transmascs". But more worrying is that basic transfeminist analysis/transmisogyny theory or criticism of transmisogyny perpetrated by tme trans people are labeled as "baeddel".
It seems similar to how people don't have a good handle on who radfems/terfs actually are and what they are, so they label basic feminist analysis as "terfy" or define terf as "self-proclaimed feminist who hates men". I have written extensively about radfems here.
The post about baeddels I linked above actually does this kind of thing to the baeddels. It calls them "transinclusive radical feminists" and describe their ideology as radfem. Which I strongly doubt is true. That's because radfem ideology defines womanhood through biological essentialism and believes cis women's biology is why misogyny and patriarchy exists. It's hard to have a strong transmisogyny analysis with that kind of theoretical grounding. Trans women are neither women or targets of misogyny when you define womanhood that way.
This is why "trans-inclusive" radfems are so often not really trans-inclusive. You can't really take the biological essentialism and transmisogyny out of radfemism, and have it still be radfemism. So accusing the baeddels of doing that doesn't really hold water. Baeddels seem to have had a lot of man-hating rhetoric and separatist ideology, but that is not what defines radfem ideology.
And I do mean it seems to be applied to trans women doing basic transfeminist analysis or using transmisogyny theory. Turns out I was wrong about baeddels not publishing books, because apparently Julia Serano was basically a proto-baeddel and Whipping Girl is the tap-root of baeddelism.
Like look at these two posts.
Calling Serano a radfem is hilarious. Like she is not even remotely that. But I'm actually worried about how transandrophobia/misandry people have this view that Serano and Whipping Girl are this fountainhead of evil "transandrophobia", based mostly on some bad quotes. Because if you cancel Serano and Whipping Girl, it's a way of canceling transmisogyny theory, because Whipping Girl basically created the concept. I'm not saying that criticism and disagreement of Serano and her ideas are bad, but there is this attempt at canceling her. Due to transmisogyny, any mistakes a trans woman make are magnified and used as part as an attempt to destroy her career and isolate her from community. And Serano being such a major transfeminist that it would be a major loss.
And trying to describe her as baeddel-ascent is especially telling. The word is then entirely disconnected from the tumblr clique who claimed the word and whose crimes (which i do not necessarily deny) gave the word its modern power as an insult.
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The term is so vaguely defined that this kind of paranoia worries me. Like if you believe that there is this evil cabal of "transmisandrist" trans women still around, and not calling yourself a baeddel is no defense, I don't see this ending happily due to transmisogyny. The transmisogynistic current of call-out culture will practically get people hurt by this. Especially if it seems that critcizing transmisogyny, especially from transmascs seem to be enough to be labeled a baeddel.
The original baeddel clique might have done some horrible crimes. But I doubt they represented some distinct ideology that we need to root out of trans spaces, especially as no one can define and primary sources on what the baeddels believed is scarce.
And that's because of how online they were. I do not want to minimize any abusive content they might have sent, but it strikes me how insignificant the baeddels were. LIke they seem to have existed largely online and wielded their influence mainly on tumblr. They never seemed to have wielded any kind of institutional power. And that's not surprising, if you are a trans lesbian you don't have much power.
The actions of self-described baeddels might have been a problem, but unlike say radfems they seem to have been a very minor problem Like Janice Raymond was working with the Reagan adminstration to deny trans people healthcare, and in my country radfem groups today provide the Swedish government a feminist alibi for not taking action to improve trans rights. Radfems have had a very demonstrable effect on institutional transphobia.
You can't say that about the baeddels. And they probably were nasty to transmascs, but i suspect their greatest victim was the poor trans woman who was one of them, but who was raped by a leading member.
It's kinda insane how they, a small internet sect, have become this boogeywoman to wield against trans woman talking about transmisogyny, including major figures like Julia Serano.
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I recently checked that definitive looking baeddel history post by nothorses again and oh gods how did i not notice that one of the writer's second-hand sources is a post on a fucking terf blog. And it's a transmisogynistic radfem rant (it's linked for transparency's case but it's horrid stuff, don't read it if you are in a bad place mentally) about some "traumatized" men have developed an "ideology where the reality of their maleness and male socialization can be denied" and how they are "weaponizing... trans men’s supposed male privilege, “transmisogyny,” “sex is a social construct,” etc. in order to silence females, they produce a powerful ideological structure which can render sex-based oppression and power dynamics invisible". It's your typical terf rant full of misgendering and transmisogyny. But it's linked to in nothorses's post uncritically as a source, despite it even shining bright red if you have the shinigami eyes extension installed. And to be honest, a lot of nothorses's description of baeddels echo the description in the terf post, including thinking beaddels were bad for believing trans men have male privilege.
This illustrates the problem of relying on second-hand sources about a group's beliefs, often these sources are biased and outright bigoted, and not reliable sources whatsoever. And second-hand sources are the sources for Nothorses entire post basically, including an obvious bigoted one.
Nothorses pinned post at present pretty much starts with a denial that he has ever been a terf. And well, maybe that's true. He just uses them as sources uncritically when they're talking about trans women.
Also he links to Turn-me-into-a-girl.com as an example of baeddels making "sissification" jokes, which is bizarre. The site is not really a forced fem joke,, and mostly just says "if you want to be a girl, that's a symptom of being a girl". It's actually quite wholesome. Also it's from 2018 apparently, way after baeddelism collapsed according to nothorses himself. This is a case of his sources having absolutely nothing to do with what he's talking about.
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(not directed at op posting the screenshots) i think we need stop engaging w clear bait like this first of all but also very importantly it truly doesn't matter if resisting against jewish ethnoreligious supremacist/fascist setter-colonialism is "antisemitic" or not. this is not an argument anyone who truly is pro-palestinian and anti-imperialist should care for. 1) it centres jewish feelings and a term that is heavily weaponised against us to censor and genocide our people; 2) it disregards the fact that material conditions have changed and that jews have been a coddled group and heavily privileged group for almost a century to the detriment of *actually* marginalised groups that *they* oppress; and 3) it treats jews as unique or as an exception wrt to oppressors. should we care if we offend yanks when it comes to condemning their imperialism? crackers when it comes to white supremacy? jews are not these eternally oppressed special babies and even if every single one said antizionism offends them, their feelings would not matter. in fact, the vast majority of jews and jewish institutions are zionist, and even those who don't call themselves zionists (including many "allies") are self-centred libzios and espouse self-coddling bullshit like "zionism is antisemitism" or even credit themselves w first opposing zionism to not only erase accountability in the violence and oppression *they* benefit from, but to base their world view, once again, on things that are irrelevant to their current privilege & zionist status (and no, internal ideological differences in a community that died down when it mattered doesnt count as such. many germans opposed nazis even before ww2, do we credit them as much? it's clearly a self-soothing attempt to assuage the feelings of jews as the exceptional ever-coddled group that can do no wrong). it's an attempt at making everything about them, taking centre stage in allyship spaces to reinforce jewish supremacy and exceptionalism bc everything must be "me me me." we will not get anything done for palestine or wider anti-imperialism if this remains a fixation, if we care more about jewish feelings than palestinian lives. jews worry more if people will hypothetically despise them bc of israel than about israel killing us, yet do nothing to address the community actions leading to said consequences of being disliked. and no, white supremacists who don't like jews don't count as antizionists not bc of "antisemitism" but bc they too practice this exceptionalism and the same race science jewish supremacy espouses, that theyre a separate entity to whites. in reality, much like w jews saying it's all just white supremacy and calling you slurs like goy or amalek or a lowly palestinian dog if you mention jewish supremacy, it's imperialists doing these theatrics of pointing the blame at one class of oppressor while kissing in the back over our deaths. point is, start caring about palestinians and centring them for once and enough of these circle jerks about "antisemitism on the left." i. don't. care. people are dying and im sorry they're not jewish or white or yank or nato for you to worship them like this. stop entertaining cyclical arguments like this. palestine is inseparable from all anti-imperialist causes and we've always supported all anti-imperialist causes (for example if you are anti-iran, anti-donbass russian, anti-dprk, etc you are not an ally of my people either, fuck off liberal imperialist yank worshipping scum). these people just don't like being equally held accountable like any other oppressor bc much like any other oppressor, anything less than worship feels like an attack, even fantasising about criticism being equivalent to a pogrom, even though that's what palestinians in their own land, muslims across the west, etc are *actually* facing rn.
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what are the same three dog whistles you mentioned in that post?
(for clarity: she's referring to dog whistles in anon hate you'll receive frequently as a non-transmisogynized person who posts about transfeminism that point towards the sender not being a transfeminist trans woman at all, but an antifeminist ragebaiter)
-as mentioned, telling you you should have been a cis gnc person. transfeminists literally never say this, it's only terfs and their allies, like antifeminist trans men or otherwise non-transmisogynized trans people ripe for terf recruiting
-for some reason, saying "icky men", which seems to be a huge thing with transandrobros??? every third post has some whining about how trans women say men are "icky" which i guess is on brand for their constant self infantilization as poor softbois who could never do a bigotry. but trans women don't say that! they say "bomb that kills all TMEs". and they're right!
-"gender traitor" which they say because it feels vaguely terfy to them but it's just not a widely used term in transfeminist circles. they always use it to mean "traitor to your agab" as well, instead of to your actual gender. which could mean nothing.
-"pooner" supposedly a slur for trans men but i've only ever seen it used by other trans men. cis people call us different slurs, i've never seen even the most deranged cis terf know that one (though i don't deny it's possible some of the most online among them have picked it up). trans women not only do not say it, but i know for a fact many don't even know what that means?? (i talk with a lot of trans women constantly and i had to google it the first time i received anon hate pretending to be a trans woman calling me that a few months ago, because i had literally never heard that word in my life. later asked around and yeah nobody uses that)
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Hey, if an Albanian is coming off as anti-communist to you, maybe think about that next time you're recommending Michael Parenti. Think about what you are doing and how Albanians are gonna take that. Marx's theories were correct. Enver's developments of Stalin's developments of Lenin's developments of Marx's theories were correct at every step. But in real life 2026 communism is a coalition of Kautskyite bourgeois states fighting about who gets to tear us limb from limb. Communists fucking suck in the real world, only the Brasilian ones are at all reasonable people. The Russian communists wanted to kill us, the Chinese communists fucked us over, everyone rehabilitated our genociders on the grounds that they too were legitimate communists, what the fuck do you want anyone there to think about communism. Do you know how fucking hard my job is already. To be the only person under like 50 who has to say that Enver was right and everyone who didn't agree with him was wrong. Like factually wrong. And meanwhile you and the Serbs and everyone else are trying to act like anyone who says anything that came out of Albania was ever good is like right-nationalist nazi irredentism. Like I need every fucking "Marxist-Leninist" who doesn't clearly affirm the right of nations to secession and who doesn't cleanly denounce settler colonialism even when the World's Darling Jugosllavia does it to fucking take a long walk off a short cliff so I can do my goddamn job.
got another anon from a transandrobro pretending to be a transphobic trans woman to bait me into the transmisogynistic rant they imagine i *must* secretly hold inside me as a someone non-transmisogynized but the hilarious part is that these guys always use the same three dog-whistles you only ever hear THEM claim trans women say. you boys are way too obvious 🤣
getting baited into a "girls mean :(" rant by a transandrobro would be like losing chess to a dog fr
boys no trans woman has ever told me i should just be cis gnc to be more #progressive. that's what YOU tell THEM every two seconds😭😭😭 you're so allergic to transfeminism you won't even read a couple of posts to properly mimic it!!!
Repeat after me:
Transmisandry does not exist.
Trans men are not systematically oppressed for being trans men.
They are systematically oppressed for being trans.
That is literally transphobia.
So that means that transwomen are not oppressed for being trans women, but just for being trans, right?
Trans women are oppressed for being women & for being trans.
Why would a conversation about how trans men aren’t oppressed for being men “mean” anything when it comes to trans women?
This is literally “soo if unicorns don’t exist then neither do horses!!! CHECKMATE SJW” logic.
Transmisogyny is literally the cross section/overlap of transphobia and misogyny. Therefore, transmisandry is the cross section of transphobia and misandry. And we all know misandry doesn’t exist, soo….
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it is very silly (i speak lightly here!) to observe that 'femboy' is considered a (comparatively, i have to emphasize, this is 'palatability' in an extremely limited sense) palatable identity when proferring oneself forward for the sexual consumption of a transmisogynistic culture & then to take this up with the goddamn femboys
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