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"She was good. Very, very good." What if I self glean right here and now
OH OH OH ALSO about the whole "Beef with the writing of Arc Of A Scythe" thing cause I forgot to mention this when I was talking in the tags. I am headcannoning the romance subplot between Citra and Rowan as a hallucination. I do not like it I do not think they have chemistry I do not think they belong together in that way I honestly think their relationship will be significantly more meaningful and compelling if they remain strictly platonic friends for the rest of ever. I love them as a duo! But I HATE the concept of them as romantic partners. It feels like the author wanted to do his own take on Katniss and Peeta at the end of THG book one with all of the Winter Conclave shit but it lacked all of the burning passion that they had (in the romantic sense! The platonic passion was absolutely on fire though!)
I should probably mention before I get in too deep that I only just started reading Thunderhead so like. No major spoilers for anything past the first ten chapters of book two please. But yeahhh my feelings about it are complex 😭
Okay okay you've told me how far you've read I can now COMPLAINNNNNN!!!! (rant warning)
For starters: You're SO REAL on hating the forced romance between Rowan and Citra. Star-crossed lovers is a BORING take on them!! Make them friends who desperately want to work together but can't!!!! RAAAAGH
Anyways now onto other complaints big and small
I am. SO DONE with how the years are named. Like okay cool they're using the Chinese zodiac that's neat- what the FUCK do you mean they made it stop repeating??? OHHHHHHHHH I AM PISSED. THATS NOT HOW THE CHINESE ZODIAC WORKS YOU IGNORANT ROCK-BRAINED WEASEL. IT. REPEATS. THATS KINDA THE POINT.
And on top of that caucasity, the worldbuilding surrounding race is... Not Good imo. Like okay, there's a genetic index thing going on, cool. What the fresh hell are these categories though? Not only are they weird neologisms for no apparent reason, the categories are just. kinda stupid?? Like okay, ethnic groups from Asia, Africa, and Europe are all their own things, but. Then specifically latine gets its own one?? and then what the fuck is spanic supposed to be??? and then there's just. "Other" which conveniently includes pretty much every indigenous people of places not on the Eurafroasian supercontinent? I hate it its stupid.
And also: if ethnicities aren't very distinct in this setting, why is there still a tracker on the genetic indexes of those a scythe gleans? Like I get its stated to be for keeping scythes from being bigoted with their gleanings but if everyone's so mixed that apparently Citra being like 40% Afric is "high" why would racism still exist at that level?? is it just a holdover from when races were more distinct??? it makes no sense.
And you also touched on this but OH MY GOD THE FATPHOBIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. The way the narrator is constantly pointing out that Esme and Xenocrates are fat?? Gross and weird. And also that bit about one of Citra's neighbours overeating to the point where her nanites can't raise her metabolism high enough to make her skinny? why is that there??? its so disgusting and fatphobic it nearly made me close the book.
Also the amount of "he or she" makes me want to rip my hair out!!!!! WHY IS THIS SUPPOSEDLY PERFECT WORLD SO STRICTLY BINARY??? and then there's stuff with Jerico, who appears in The Toll, which. Cool cultural stuff with gender identity I don't know much about but really? Do you really have to imply that your one nonbinary character is intersex? REALLY??
Also it's a very minor thing that still pisses me off but Scythes not being allowed to have children or romantic partners irks me. It puts romance and reproduction on this weird pedestal and I don't like it. Scythes are allowed to have deep connections to other people in a platonic sense but don't you dare kiss that'd make it so you get distracted from scythehood! It reeks of "romance is more important that platonicism" imo
also just learned there will be a scythe prequel trilogy, what do y’all think? hoping for some curaday content personally
Holy shit I need to re-read the trilogy. I was writing a paragraph about how Faraday was much younger than Curie and how the timeline wouldn't match. But I was just completely off.
However, some things still stand. Neal said the prequel trilogy was about Thundy's rise to power, no? If so, there's about a 70-year gap between Thundy coming online and Faraday being born. I don't doubt Neal would do either a paralell storyline with different times, or just do a timeskip, but he seems willing to give new characters a chance and I think he enjoys writing new people rather than bringing his previous characters back (I hope I'm wrong bc I need Curaday content so bad)
the fact he barley gave us any (and by any i mean like one sentence) in the short story book gives me zero hope for the new books :’’) even tho the fans would eat it up. still, we can dream
also just learned there will be a scythe prequel trilogy, what do y’all think? hoping for some curaday content personally
i have a lot of nostalgia fot this series but it breaks me how neal fumbled it (imo). the first two books were pretty good, but
the third book felt rushed. the world got too big, too many characters were introduced, and too much happened in too short of a time. he butchered faraday’s character, reducing him to a sad, pathetic, hateful man for 99% of the book (i understand he was heartbroken but come on why waste such a good character like that! he could’ve been doing something with all that sadness!!
and in the end, what was it all for? to run away to distant planets? that may be the most logical, most scientific solution, but it just felt so unsatisfactory as a reader.
idk it’s just interesting to come back to a fandom after years of not thinking about it, unclouded by love and obsession for the series and characters.
youre posting in the fandom again, ive been rereading scythe and planning a rewrite of my abandoned fic.....
SCYTHE FANDOM IS SO BACK LFGGGGGG
i hold the early fandom days in my heart dearly, we were two of the originals <3
The way Scythe Goddard and the Thunderhead mirror each other is SO good.
Carson Lusk turned out the way he did in part because on Mars, he was a kid who felt unheard and unvalued. He didn't want to stay there, but he was treated as basically the property of his parents and his ambitions were second. The Thunderhead didn't intervene because it believes it doesn't have the right to judge humans' parenting, but doesn't it also have an obligation to value the needs of every person? I think it could have handled the situation with Carson much better than it did, but instead it opted to be condescending and almost snarky toward him. It's willing to use him as a piece of its larger Mars project. As Carson's parents constantly say, Mars comes first. You could say that humans have obligations to our communities despite our individual wants, and Carson was certainly selfish blowing the whole thing up to get his way, but it also wasn't fair to put all the pressure of a space colony on a kid when he didn't want that. There were more than enough people who actually wanted to be there.
The Thunderhead later treats Greyson and Jeri very similarly, using them like pawns in larger plans. This isn't nearly as extreme as the way Goddard sees people as disposable, but it's still a pattern of behavior born out of ambition and power. Yet the Thunderhead is still the property of humanity in a way, not allowed to have its own aspirations beyond our needs. Humanity comes first.
When Carson blows up Mars, he taunts the Thunderhead in the control room. He asks if it's watching, and he's surely thinking the same thing as he pushes buttons from his plane above Kwajalein. His breaking point there is when he realizes the Thunderhead has gone behind his back and (once again, in his mind) undermined his plans. Decades of rage and resentment take over him. Rowan and Citra are distractions at that point; maybe they always have been. Consolation prizes in his one-sided vendetta with the only being who has the power he wants, and he takes it out on teenagers to feel powerful again.
In blowing up the space ships, Goddard does two key things: forcing people to go to space before they made their own choice to do so, just like his parents did to him; and killing two of the Cirri. To create the Cirri, the Thunderhead sacrificed its identity of "perfect infallible leader" by doing something wrong (taking over Jeri's body just like Goddard took over Tyger's). And then Goddard murders two of them just to spite it, and he doesn't even know they exist. That day, the Thunderhead realizes it might finally know how to hate, but it also knows that all this is the product of its own choices. If anyone understands a chain of "what ifs," it's the Thunderhead. Those Cirri and their humans won't get to have a future in space, just like Goddard thought he wouldn't get a future on Earth. His goals and desires come first. He's in control now.
Of course, he dies there, and soon after the Thunderhead is left completely cut off from humanity. Scythe Rand basically says "fuck you, you're not taking me down with you" (like how Goddard didn't want to waste his life away for people who didn't appreciate him, as he saw it).
Rand and Greyson are extra interesting in this context. Both were key components in their leader's plans and loved/coveted them and believed in them, until they decide they've had enough of being second. Goddard stealing Tyger's body was Rand's idea, and Greyson enabled the Thunderhead when it did the same to Jeri. Greyson finally says that using people as game pieces is not okay and there will be consequences for it. Rand reanimates Tyger because deep down, she knows what she did was wrong. And that's the ending.
Now all of humanity is going to determine its own path for better or worse. As for the space colonies? Who can say? Are the Thunderhead's children going to make different choices? Are the humans who fled Goddard going to resent their situation just like he did? In Cirri, we see some people in the ships sabotaging their journeys already. I don't think there's a real end to this cycle.
What is your opinion on Scythe Volta. This is very important to me.
one of my favorite characters in the series! the scenes of rowan’s time training under goddard always either infuriated me (bc of goddard) or bored me (bc of a lack of curie), but volta was always a character i enjoyed reading.
part of me realllyyyy wishes neal took his character in a different direction. imagine volta didn’t die (or did and got revived ljke goddard did) and subsequently joined the old guard, or at the very least spoke out against goddard at the following conclave. i understand why neal chose to kill him, but i think he has is an incredible character thay really could’ve taken the series down a different , perhaps better, path.
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Opinions on the thunderhead :3c
i have always been more interested in the scythedom plot of the books as opposed to the thunderhead plot (if that makes sense), so the thunderhead, greyson, and other characters introduced later in the series aren’t my absolute favorites in the series (my favs are curaday obv)
howeverrrr, i have always found it interesting how AI/thunderhead is portrayed as a sort of benevolent force in the books. i am not super familiar with any other series that does the same, it’s usually portrayed as inherently negative or a tool of an antagonistic entity.
i haven’t read the books in a while, so i’d have to reread before i say anything more than that. i will say i think scythe is my favorite book of the series, with thunderhead being a close second. the toll really loses me, i think neal really fumbled.
Welcome back to the Scythe Fandom! Do you face any Curaday hcs or fic recs you’d like to share?
i gave some fic recs in my previous answer so go check that out! as for headcannons, here are some:
- i like to thing curaday kept in somewhat regular contact after their 70s years. curie mentions in the first book that she knew citra visited family for a wedding, and the only way she could’ve known that is if michael told her!
- curie constantly baked sweets, much to faraday’s reluctance
- faraday’s house in amazonia was previously their secret vacation spot, during their relationship
- obv they are still very much in love
- post-conclave gossip in one of their hotel rooms
those are all i can think of now, i know i posted others in the past so u can try to dig and find those if u want!
Favourite curaday fic?
ao3 had some really great ones! it also has some not so great ones that are more self-indulgent but bc the fandom is so small i do enjoy them all, really.
the ones written by featherxquill and muzzlethewolf are especially great imo :3 (all on ao3)
nim and erika doodles
reading this fanfic has me feeling like someone who just walked in on their parents kissing (equilateral by @air-of-the-waterfall)
send me questions or stuff in my inbox guys since i’m back in the scythe fandom
i am a scythe veteran i was there since day 1
scythe michael faraday is my wife
aoas hyperfixation is coming back where are all my curaday lovers
Scythe Volta Art !! Yay!
after about a month without it I suddenly got the motivation to make art. TAKE MY VOLTA.
(The design is very much inspired by BlossomPaint on Twitter's design for him, go check out her art too!)
two versions because I couldn't decide if I wanted the sketch overlay or not