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@KathleenMRooney Most mind-blowing fact I’ve encountered all month, scurvy-related or otherwise.
O____O
Drink your orange juice, kids.
(Or eat strawberries, tomatoes, kale, papaya, etc.)
Scurvy confirmed as the most metal disease ever
Baby you can’t know me, you don’t know ugly
WHY IS IT GETTING WORSE
420 blaze it
So, you’re upset that people don’t like a movie that you like? You wish they’d stop negatively reviewing it, stop speaking badly about it, and stop trying to get it to change to better suit what they like when the movie wasn’t made for their demographic in the first place?
Really.
You’re upset about that.
Must be rough.
Signed, every videogame player, comic book fan, and fantasy genre reader ever.
are you fucking trying to say that women shouldnt play video games?
like what the actual fuck.
Of course not. But am I saying that you shouldn’t complain about THAT game or THAT comic book that happens to feature a character in a skimpy outfit with big boobs, because it’s clearly not made with you in mind, so maybe you should just let the people it’s made for enjoy their little thing? Yes.
So many fans of this new Ghostbusters are complaining about people criticizing the movie, being all “Can’t you just let us enjoy our movie? This was made for us.”. And it’s like, you just know they’re the type of people to turn right around and complain about Lara Croft’s boobs. This post is meant to highlight their hypocrisy.
Ok. But there’s one huge difference I don’t think you are considering. I am honestly discussing here.
If you want to see a girl in a skimpy outfit with big boobs? You can go almost anywhere. The games already exist. The movies already exist. The animes, the comics, I could go on and on, already exist.
This? This movie? This movie with FOUR female leads who have substance and humor and who are NEVER sexualized? not once? They do not exist. They are not elsewhere for me to access them. At least not in well known abundance. I know of nothing else.
So yes, people are going to get upset when others don’t just give us this. Because we need it. You? You don’t. You already have it.
“They do not exist. They are not elsewhere for me to access them.”
…I’m sorry, are we not living on the same planet?
Janine Melnitz officially became a Ghostbuster in The Real Ghostbusters. Kylie Griffin premiered in Extreme Ghostbusters. Both continue to feature in the IDW comic series, along with another female member. If the reboot had featured characters that fans knew and loved, and was handled appropriately (as in, with basic human respect, actual talent, and a genuine concern for quality), it wouldn’t have received anywhere near the backlash it has.
What you see above is in no way indicative of everything out there (I didn’t even get into video game characters). We have plenty of representation available, but honestly, no: We don’t “need” it. It’s actually incredibly misogynistic to suggest that women “need” fictional characters to validate our existence, especially in first-world nations, where we’re already highly privileged over men.
>There are no movies with non-sexualized female leads.
“Bridesmaids” springs to mind. Same director too.
From what I can tell having seen trailers and reviews (but admittedly not the film itself) the new Ghostbusters is basically just Bridesmaids with lasers
TAG YOURSELF IM 4GET IT
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
Why
u know what i think about a lot? that screenshot of a post where plebcomics calls otherkin “intellectual thieves” or something i just think about it a lot it’s so ridiculous and kind of funny? knowing they typed that into their computer letter by letter and never thought “what the actual fuck am i even saying.”
I’d hate to know what they think of cosplayers.
or role players
cosplayers= “im going to dress up as a character i like at this anime convention”
roleplayers= “im going to role play this character for this rp im participating in”
otherkin=“I AM THIS CHARACTER AND I HAVE ALWAYS EXISTED AS THIS CHARACTER AND I AM ALSO A DRAGON, NOBODY CAN SEE MY WINGS AND NOBODY SEES ME BREATHING FIRE, BUT I AM, BECAUSE I AM A FIERCE DRAGON WHO IS ALSO BOBBY HILL, RAWRRWRRRWR my parents are such assholes, fuck you dad”
I have never been this offended in my life #gpoy #oppression
water your owl until it blooms
Oh my
E X P A N D B I R B
oh my goodness oh my GOOODNESS
b i r b
bi women dating men are no longer bisexual. they are, by virtue of their partnership, automatically straight
also, single people are all aro. fact. and you’d better be having sex the exact moment you read this or guess what? asexual
better not call yourself a writer if you’re not writing right this second. are you a dancer? better not sit down, or you won’t be a dancer anymore
that’s how this works right
In between breaths we are all dead.
Bruhhhhh
Australian women soccer team the Matildas have had a shock 7-0 loss to a Newcastle Jets under-15 boys team in Newcastle on Wednesday in a disastrous preparation for the Rio Olympics.
Remember we had all of those posts a while ago complaining that female footballers were paid much less than men when they performed better? Remember when some took this to mean that the teams were better, and suggested that the women would thrash the men if given the chance?
Here is the fifth ranked women’s side in the world. Australia’s male side are ranked 50th, but that doesn’t make them worse. There are similar stories for Sweden, USA, and other top performing women’s teams in countries with weak men’s leagues.
uh, a random comment that may be something to consider:
If you put a bunch of olympic athletes up against school children, they tend to let the kids win.
even if that weren’t true…
-one women’s team plays badly- you see???? women sports players are just bad!!!!!!!
I’m just trying to figure out what fucked that commentor up so badly that he thought Olympic athletes were going to go out there and slaughter a group of grade school kids. Like… who hurt them that bad?
This is why I’ll never understand antifeminists.
Because this seems to be what they actually believe.
this has nothing to do with the OP’s dumbassery, but it’s weird to me that the grade school teams were segregated by sex. Is that something that other countries do? In the US we do that in high school sometimes if there are enough players, but in grade school our soccer teams are all just whatever kid joins. We don’t have a “girls” team and a “boys” team. that’s not a thing. If this had been the American Olympic team vs our gradeschoolers, they couldn’t run that ad because it wouldn’t have a gendered bias behind it. because our grade school soccer is unisex. A lot of our high school sports are unisex if there aren’t enough players for different gendered teams. I know at my school the football, cheerleading, dance, soccer, and swim teams were all unisex. We actually won the male cheerleading section at county because no other schools in the county had enough male athletes to run a routein on their own.
If you’d actually read the article - or even just the title - you’d know that this is nothing to do with school teams, it’s about the professional Newcastle Jets team. These “kids” are academy trained and are literally one year away from being eligible for international football. They are paid professionals who have been playing/training all their lives; they’re not toddlers who need to be lied to or given easy victories… and here you are calling someone a dumbass while having absolutely no idea yourself what you’re talking about or (apparently) how to even read an article before trying to argue with it.
I did read it. It doesn’t change anything I said?
You think that because these, again, grade school children, played a sport “professionally”, Olympic-level athletes are bringing their A-game? That’s not how things work in the really real world.
I use school teams because where I’m from, school teams ARE the professional teams. Our professional sports teams ages 4-24 are funded by the school system, not privately funded. You can GET publicly sourced “sponsors” but you still play FOR the school, not the sposor. Recruiters for places like the NBA or NFL will come to high schools and watch the players there. we don’t really value soccer as much as other countries, but it works in the same way.
this seems to be you just not having an understanding of how the american sporting system is set up, so maybe my comments will make a little more sense now.
This is a terrible system, by the way. Because of teh way that male athletes are prioritized, you see things like students /intentionally failing their academics/, because if they fail, they can he held back a year and continue to play on their sporting teams, because they think that their sports career is more important than their education. they think that they can impress the recruiters /next/ year, when in reality the chance of making it to a professional adult team are incredibly slim. this has become such a problem that many schools have implemented a “no pass, no play” rule, which states that in order to stay on ANY extracurricular, including a sports team, a student must maintain at least a C average.
You wanna talk about parents completely losing their shit. These policies have been fought tooth and nail by “concerned” parents who push their children to fail so they can have an extra season, with absolutely no concern for what that kind of pressure, and complete disregard o other aspects of their child’s life can do to their psyche. The coaches were absolutely outraged as well. And when you take into account the amount of money that sports bring into a school, MANY schoolboards are also in opposition. it’s a controversial rule, but many states are implementing it as law.
Personally, I support “no pass no play”. I think it’s important for students to have an academic career because the chances of getting picked by a professional team ARE so slim. You need something to fall back on. But, if we had privatized sports, like Australia, maybe this wouldn’t be a problem? I think it’s just genuinely never occurred to us. But if we did that, it would give higher SES students even more of an advantage over lower SES students, and we like to pretend that we’re a meritocracy, and I don’t think that we, as a society, would readily accept that.
It makes a huge difference to what you said, because in professional sports people don’t coddle highly talented teenagers and suddenly decide not to play properly in a serious training match. Yes, they should be bringing their “A-game” because that is how things work in the real world - if you want to train properly, you play properly.
Women’s teams around the world train against men’s youth teams a lot (often due to lack of other women’s teams around sadly) and it’s not sexist to state that the winning teams are better. The US women’s team lost 8-2 against the men’s under 17s just before going on to win the Olympic gold, so this is not an outlier focused on weaker teams, it’s a fairly normal state of affairs. England lose in friendly training matches all the time and we don’t pretend that we let them win and are actually the best because that just isn’t a reasonable claim.
This isn’t about America and school leagues, it’s about real professional footballers and a comparison of technical ability. Congratulations on managing to turn a post about professional sporting results into a massive critique of the American school sports system lmao that’s quite a segue, and although I agree wholeheartedly with that critique it’s got nothing at all to do with the topic here :P
ps: all professional sports leagues are privatised with the exception of those in countries like China
Again, sweety, you’re not understanding the way the world works.
In the US, /school teams ARE professional teams/. I’m not sure why you’re not understanding that? Other than you’re not from the US?
Look. I understand where you’re coming from. You’re very young and you want to believe that these middle school children beat Olympic athletes based on merit because it would make these kids exceptional. It would make the pay gap that the female soccer players get, in your mind, acceptable. Yet, even if it were true that these children were magically able to beat Olympic athletes because… ball sweat is actually the secret to soccer victory or something, it would not have anything to do with the complaint about the pay gap.
In a capitalist society, you are not paid based on how good you are at something, but by how much money you bring in. the female US soccer team brought in /significantly/ more money than the male team.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/data-how-does-the-u-s-womens-soccer-team-pay-compare-to-the-men/
Once you get a little older and take some marketing and finance classes, you’ll understand this. even if you were right, which you are not, it would still be /irrelevant/. As I already said. It would make no difference to my post.
Look, I looked around the rest of your blog, and you’re a little kid so I don’t want to drag you. You seem really sweet, and your heart is in the right place. You’re concerned for people, like male rape victims, and it would probably behoove you to focus on things like that, things that are /real/. Because I /know/ it’s going to hurt to hear this. I know it is. But this is one of those things that you’re going to look back on and cringe. Not because your heart isn’t in the right place, but just because you don’t know how things like economic planning on a massive scale, professional sports training (no match is used to train, you don’t train by playing “practice matches”, you train by working on your body, teamwork, and strategy, it’s not as simple as you think it is), or, yes, shock of shock, gender difference on a sociological scale, impact certain events. You will eventually get a better grasp on this, but it’s a /complex/ issue. the short story is, no professionals don’t’ play gradeschoolers seriously. that’s not a thing.
Women soccer players wanting to be paid fairly for the money they bring into the league is not some evil feminist conspiracy like silencing rape victims. You’re just at an age where you’re having difficulty separating /actual/ problems from things that some Reddit MRA bitched about. just like some other teenagers have difficulty differentiating between tumblr feminism and “real world” feminism.
I’m glad that you’re trying. And I understand that the world seems like a huge, scary, evil place where everything is awful and the professional soccer players are out to get you and maybe, just maybe your team of kids can beat them if you just /really try/. It’s… god I don’t want to say cute because I swear to god I’m not trying to condescending, but it’s /charming/. It’s almost nostalgic.
Ok now you’re just being insulting, but you’re still wrong no matter how much you repeat yourself or change the subject. School teams are not professional teams (at least certainly not in soccer, which is what we’re talking about here), professional teams are those in the MLS, which have their own youth teams outside of the school system. I know football dear, no need to be bitchy and wrong just for the fun of it when you clearly have no idea what the structure of the sporting world is.
I’m not very young but thanks for thinking so, and even if I was what I’m saying is not incorrect. THESE ARE NOT KIDS. Stop infantilising people who everywhere but the US are seen as functioning human beings able of doing more than drooling on themselves. You might like to ignore inconvenient things like biology and statistics but for anyone not blinkered by nonsense it’s very clear that considering the CONSTANT beating of women’s teams by youth teams, there is an obvious difference in overall skill. This is observation of facts, not sexism. Why on earth you seem to think sportspeople just roll over and play dead for anyone younger than them is a mystery.
The women’s US team brought in more than the men’s team yes - for one year when they had a major tournament and the men’s team had nothing but friendly matches. They are also the only women’s team in the world that outperformed… well, anyone. Again this is not sexist, it is fact. In nearly all countries in the world, female footballers bring in very little because there isn’t as much interest in a game at lower level, the exact same way county league teams don’t get paid the same as premiership teams. As for relevance to a post, yours is the totally irrelevant one which changed the topic from sport to schooling, so not sure what points you’re trying to score there but it’s not working.
I’m not a little kid, again no need to be a condescending liar to try making a point. You’re clearly a complete fool if you think that training matches don’t exist at both club and international level, so kindly don’t try telling me that I don’t know something when you’re being flat out wrong and insulting. You can’t just put your fingers in your ears and go LALALA NOPE NOT TRUE, the fact fact fact fact fact fact fact is that yes these games exist and yes they are serious matches. Your incapacity to believe anything that doesn’t work to your own advantage is not a real argument; teams of different levels playing each other to test tactics and such is very much a thing no matter how much you want it to not be.
I have nothing against wanting to be paid fairly; what I have a problem with is people with the skills of lower league teams demanding top league wages because they managed to beat teams even weaker. I haven’t mentioned feminism and don’t use Reddit so no need to strawman that either. I never said anyone’s out to get me, and you are being not only condescending but 110% wrong. You’re making statements about things you’re not educated on that are provably incorrect, which isn’t cute or charming but damaging and rude. I have no idea where you got the idea that I’m a little kid or where you got the idea that those who are younger can’t be good at anything, but it’s incredibly blind of you when reality is not that hard to see.
He’s trying so hard, god bless his lil heart
That’s not a response, that’s just continuing to be rude and dismissive because you don’t have a clue. Sad really how hard you cling to being flat-out wrong and throwing personal comments - which are also wrong.
You tell ‘um kiddo! You keep fighting for those middle school kids who beat them mean ol’ Olympic athletes all on their own with their own merit!
Your intense lack of knowledge about sport and how bodies develop doesn't give you any leverage here. You can keep attempting to poke fun of me for actually knowing what I'm talking about but really you just look like an idiot who can't accept reality.
You might well have been a useless lump of nothing at 15, I can't know that, but what I do know is that not everyone is. A great many 15 year olds are extremely talented, extremely matured, and extremely determined. Your attempts to take away their achievements just because you weren't good at anything are ridiculous and insulting.
Again, I'm not a child and I don't know where you're getting that from, but however old you are you need to grow up.
Australian women soccer team the Matildas have had a shock 7-0 loss to a Newcastle Jets under-15 boys team in Newcastle on Wednesday in a disastrous preparation for the Rio Olympics.
Remember we had all of those posts a while ago complaining that female footballers were paid much less than men when they performed better? Remember when some took this to mean that the teams were better, and suggested that the women would thrash the men if given the chance?
Here is the fifth ranked women’s side in the world. Australia’s male side are ranked 50th, but that doesn’t make them worse. There are similar stories for Sweden, USA, and other top performing women’s teams in countries with weak men’s leagues.
uh, a random comment that may be something to consider:
If you put a bunch of olympic athletes up against school children, they tend to let the kids win.
even if that weren’t true…
-one women’s team plays badly- you see???? women sports players are just bad!!!!!!!
I’m just trying to figure out what fucked that commentor up so badly that he thought Olympic athletes were going to go out there and slaughter a group of grade school kids. Like… who hurt them that bad?
This is why I’ll never understand antifeminists.
Because this seems to be what they actually believe.
this has nothing to do with the OP’s dumbassery, but it’s weird to me that the grade school teams were segregated by sex. Is that something that other countries do? In the US we do that in high school sometimes if there are enough players, but in grade school our soccer teams are all just whatever kid joins. We don’t have a “girls” team and a “boys” team. that’s not a thing. If this had been the American Olympic team vs our gradeschoolers, they couldn’t run that ad because it wouldn’t have a gendered bias behind it. because our grade school soccer is unisex. A lot of our high school sports are unisex if there aren’t enough players for different gendered teams. I know at my school the football, cheerleading, dance, soccer, and swim teams were all unisex. We actually won the male cheerleading section at county because no other schools in the county had enough male athletes to run a routein on their own.
If you’d actually read the article - or even just the title - you’d know that this is nothing to do with school teams, it’s about the professional Newcastle Jets team. These “kids” are academy trained and are literally one year away from being eligible for international football. They are paid professionals who have been playing/training all their lives; they’re not toddlers who need to be lied to or given easy victories… and here you are calling someone a dumbass while having absolutely no idea yourself what you’re talking about or (apparently) how to even read an article before trying to argue with it.
I did read it. It doesn’t change anything I said?
You think that because these, again, grade school children, played a sport “professionally”, Olympic-level athletes are bringing their A-game? That’s not how things work in the really real world.
I use school teams because where I’m from, school teams ARE the professional teams. Our professional sports teams ages 4-24 are funded by the school system, not privately funded. You can GET publicly sourced “sponsors” but you still play FOR the school, not the sposor. Recruiters for places like the NBA or NFL will come to high schools and watch the players there. we don’t really value soccer as much as other countries, but it works in the same way.
this seems to be you just not having an understanding of how the american sporting system is set up, so maybe my comments will make a little more sense now.
This is a terrible system, by the way. Because of teh way that male athletes are prioritized, you see things like students /intentionally failing their academics/, because if they fail, they can he held back a year and continue to play on their sporting teams, because they think that their sports career is more important than their education. they think that they can impress the recruiters /next/ year, when in reality the chance of making it to a professional adult team are incredibly slim. this has become such a problem that many schools have implemented a “no pass, no play” rule, which states that in order to stay on ANY extracurricular, including a sports team, a student must maintain at least a C average.
You wanna talk about parents completely losing their shit. These policies have been fought tooth and nail by “concerned” parents who push their children to fail so they can have an extra season, with absolutely no concern for what that kind of pressure, and complete disregard o other aspects of their child’s life can do to their psyche. The coaches were absolutely outraged as well. And when you take into account the amount of money that sports bring into a school, MANY schoolboards are also in opposition. it’s a controversial rule, but many states are implementing it as law.
Personally, I support “no pass no play”. I think it’s important for students to have an academic career because the chances of getting picked by a professional team ARE so slim. You need something to fall back on. But, if we had privatized sports, like Australia, maybe this wouldn’t be a problem? I think it’s just genuinely never occurred to us. But if we did that, it would give higher SES students even more of an advantage over lower SES students, and we like to pretend that we’re a meritocracy, and I don’t think that we, as a society, would readily accept that.
It makes a huge difference to what you said, because in professional sports people don’t coddle highly talented teenagers and suddenly decide not to play properly in a serious training match. Yes, they should be bringing their “A-game” because that is how things work in the real world - if you want to train properly, you play properly.
Women’s teams around the world train against men’s youth teams a lot (often due to lack of other women’s teams around sadly) and it’s not sexist to state that the winning teams are better. The US women’s team lost 8-2 against the men’s under 17s just before going on to win the Olympic gold, so this is not an outlier focused on weaker teams, it’s a fairly normal state of affairs. England lose in friendly training matches all the time and we don’t pretend that we let them win and are actually the best because that just isn’t a reasonable claim.
This isn’t about America and school leagues, it’s about real professional footballers and a comparison of technical ability. Congratulations on managing to turn a post about professional sporting results into a massive critique of the American school sports system lmao that’s quite a segue, and although I agree wholeheartedly with that critique it’s got nothing at all to do with the topic here :P
ps: all professional sports leagues are privatised with the exception of those in countries like China
Again, sweety, you’re not understanding the way the world works.
In the US, /school teams ARE professional teams/. I’m not sure why you’re not understanding that? Other than you’re not from the US?
Look. I understand where you’re coming from. You’re very young and you want to believe that these middle school children beat Olympic athletes based on merit because it would make these kids exceptional. It would make the pay gap that the female soccer players get, in your mind, acceptable. Yet, even if it were true that these children were magically able to beat Olympic athletes because… ball sweat is actually the secret to soccer victory or something, it would not have anything to do with the complaint about the pay gap.
In a capitalist society, you are not paid based on how good you are at something, but by how much money you bring in. the female US soccer team brought in /significantly/ more money than the male team.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/data-how-does-the-u-s-womens-soccer-team-pay-compare-to-the-men/
Once you get a little older and take some marketing and finance classes, you’ll understand this. even if you were right, which you are not, it would still be /irrelevant/. As I already said. It would make no difference to my post.
Look, I looked around the rest of your blog, and you’re a little kid so I don’t want to drag you. You seem really sweet, and your heart is in the right place. You’re concerned for people, like male rape victims, and it would probably behoove you to focus on things like that, things that are /real/. Because I /know/ it’s going to hurt to hear this. I know it is. But this is one of those things that you’re going to look back on and cringe. Not because your heart isn’t in the right place, but just because you don’t know how things like economic planning on a massive scale, professional sports training (no match is used to train, you don’t train by playing “practice matches”, you train by working on your body, teamwork, and strategy, it’s not as simple as you think it is), or, yes, shock of shock, gender difference on a sociological scale, impact certain events. You will eventually get a better grasp on this, but it’s a /complex/ issue. the short story is, no professionals don’t’ play gradeschoolers seriously. that’s not a thing.
Women soccer players wanting to be paid fairly for the money they bring into the league is not some evil feminist conspiracy like silencing rape victims. You’re just at an age where you’re having difficulty separating /actual/ problems from things that some Reddit MRA bitched about. just like some other teenagers have difficulty differentiating between tumblr feminism and “real world” feminism.
I’m glad that you’re trying. And I understand that the world seems like a huge, scary, evil place where everything is awful and the professional soccer players are out to get you and maybe, just maybe your team of kids can beat them if you just /really try/. It’s… god I don’t want to say cute because I swear to god I’m not trying to condescending, but it’s /charming/. It’s almost nostalgic.
Ok now you’re just being insulting, but you’re still wrong no matter how much you repeat yourself or change the subject. School teams are not professional teams (at least certainly not in soccer, which is what we’re talking about here), professional teams are those in the MLS, which have their own youth teams outside of the school system. I know football dear, no need to be bitchy and wrong just for the fun of it when you clearly have no idea what the structure of the sporting world is.
I’m not very young but thanks for thinking so, and even if I was what I’m saying is not incorrect. THESE ARE NOT KIDS. Stop infantilising people who everywhere but the US are seen as functioning human beings able of doing more than drooling on themselves. You might like to ignore inconvenient things like biology and statistics but for anyone not blinkered by nonsense it’s very clear that considering the CONSTANT beating of women’s teams by youth teams, there is an obvious difference in overall skill. This is observation of facts, not sexism. Why on earth you seem to think sportspeople just roll over and play dead for anyone younger than them is a mystery.
The women’s US team brought in more than the men’s team yes - for one year when they had a major tournament and the men’s team had nothing but friendly matches. They are also the only women’s team in the world that outperformed… well, anyone. Again this is not sexist, it is fact. In nearly all countries in the world, female footballers bring in very little because there isn’t as much interest in a game at lower level, the exact same way county league teams don’t get paid the same as premiership teams. As for relevance to a post, yours is the totally irrelevant one which changed the topic from sport to schooling, so not sure what points you’re trying to score there but it’s not working.
I’m not a little kid, again no need to be a condescending liar to try making a point. You’re clearly a complete fool if you think that training matches don’t exist at both club and international level, so kindly don’t try telling me that I don’t know something when you’re being flat out wrong and insulting. You can’t just put your fingers in your ears and go LALALA NOPE NOT TRUE, the fact fact fact fact fact fact fact is that yes these games exist and yes they are serious matches. Your incapacity to believe anything that doesn’t work to your own advantage is not a real argument; teams of different levels playing each other to test tactics and such is very much a thing no matter how much you want it to not be.
I have nothing against wanting to be paid fairly; what I have a problem with is people with the skills of lower league teams demanding top league wages because they managed to beat teams even weaker. I haven’t mentioned feminism and don’t use Reddit so no need to strawman that either. I never said anyone’s out to get me, and you are being not only condescending but 110% wrong. You’re making statements about things you’re not educated on that are provably incorrect, which isn’t cute or charming but damaging and rude. I have no idea where you got the idea that I’m a little kid or where you got the idea that those who are younger can’t be good at anything, but it’s incredibly blind of you when reality is not that hard to see.
He’s trying so hard, god bless his lil heart
That’s not a response, that’s just continuing to be rude and dismissive because you don’t have a clue. Sad really how hard you cling to being flat-out wrong and throwing personal comments - which are also wrong.
Australian women soccer team the Matildas have had a shock 7-0 loss to a Newcastle Jets under-15 boys team in Newcastle on Wednesday in a disastrous preparation for the Rio Olympics.
Remember we had all of those posts a while ago complaining that female footballers were paid much less than men when they performed better? Remember when some took this to mean that the teams were better, and suggested that the women would thrash the men if given the chance?
Here is the fifth ranked women’s side in the world. Australia’s male side are ranked 50th, but that doesn’t make them worse. There are similar stories for Sweden, USA, and other top performing women’s teams in countries with weak men’s leagues.
uh, a random comment that may be something to consider:
If you put a bunch of olympic athletes up against school children, they tend to let the kids win.
even if that weren’t true…
-one women’s team plays badly- you see???? women sports players are just bad!!!!!!!
I’m just trying to figure out what fucked that commentor up so badly that he thought Olympic athletes were going to go out there and slaughter a group of grade school kids. Like… who hurt them that bad?
This is why I’ll never understand antifeminists.
Because this seems to be what they actually believe.
this has nothing to do with the OP’s dumbassery, but it’s weird to me that the grade school teams were segregated by sex. Is that something that other countries do? In the US we do that in high school sometimes if there are enough players, but in grade school our soccer teams are all just whatever kid joins. We don’t have a “girls” team and a “boys” team. that’s not a thing. If this had been the American Olympic team vs our gradeschoolers, they couldn’t run that ad because it wouldn’t have a gendered bias behind it. because our grade school soccer is unisex. A lot of our high school sports are unisex if there aren’t enough players for different gendered teams. I know at my school the football, cheerleading, dance, soccer, and swim teams were all unisex. We actually won the male cheerleading section at county because no other schools in the county had enough male athletes to run a routein on their own.
If you’d actually read the article - or even just the title - you’d know that this is nothing to do with school teams, it’s about the professional Newcastle Jets team. These “kids” are academy trained and are literally one year away from being eligible for international football. They are paid professionals who have been playing/training all their lives; they’re not toddlers who need to be lied to or given easy victories… and here you are calling someone a dumbass while having absolutely no idea yourself what you’re talking about or (apparently) how to even read an article before trying to argue with it.
I did read it. It doesn’t change anything I said?
You think that because these, again, grade school children, played a sport “professionally”, Olympic-level athletes are bringing their A-game? That’s not how things work in the really real world.
I use school teams because where I’m from, school teams ARE the professional teams. Our professional sports teams ages 4-24 are funded by the school system, not privately funded. You can GET publicly sourced “sponsors” but you still play FOR the school, not the sposor. Recruiters for places like the NBA or NFL will come to high schools and watch the players there. we don’t really value soccer as much as other countries, but it works in the same way.
this seems to be you just not having an understanding of how the american sporting system is set up, so maybe my comments will make a little more sense now.
This is a terrible system, by the way. Because of teh way that male athletes are prioritized, you see things like students /intentionally failing their academics/, because if they fail, they can he held back a year and continue to play on their sporting teams, because they think that their sports career is more important than their education. they think that they can impress the recruiters /next/ year, when in reality the chance of making it to a professional adult team are incredibly slim. this has become such a problem that many schools have implemented a “no pass, no play” rule, which states that in order to stay on ANY extracurricular, including a sports team, a student must maintain at least a C average.
You wanna talk about parents completely losing their shit. These policies have been fought tooth and nail by “concerned” parents who push their children to fail so they can have an extra season, with absolutely no concern for what that kind of pressure, and complete disregard o other aspects of their child’s life can do to their psyche. The coaches were absolutely outraged as well. And when you take into account the amount of money that sports bring into a school, MANY schoolboards are also in opposition. it’s a controversial rule, but many states are implementing it as law.
Personally, I support “no pass no play”. I think it’s important for students to have an academic career because the chances of getting picked by a professional team ARE so slim. You need something to fall back on. But, if we had privatized sports, like Australia, maybe this wouldn’t be a problem? I think it’s just genuinely never occurred to us. But if we did that, it would give higher SES students even more of an advantage over lower SES students, and we like to pretend that we’re a meritocracy, and I don’t think that we, as a society, would readily accept that.
It makes a huge difference to what you said, because in professional sports people don’t coddle highly talented teenagers and suddenly decide not to play properly in a serious training match. Yes, they should be bringing their “A-game” because that is how things work in the real world - if you want to train properly, you play properly.
Women’s teams around the world train against men’s youth teams a lot (often due to lack of other women’s teams around sadly) and it’s not sexist to state that the winning teams are better. The US women’s team lost 8-2 against the men’s under 17s just before going on to win the Olympic gold, so this is not an outlier focused on weaker teams, it’s a fairly normal state of affairs. England lose in friendly training matches all the time and we don’t pretend that we let them win and are actually the best because that just isn’t a reasonable claim.
This isn’t about America and school leagues, it’s about real professional footballers and a comparison of technical ability. Congratulations on managing to turn a post about professional sporting results into a massive critique of the American school sports system lmao that’s quite a segue, and although I agree wholeheartedly with that critique it’s got nothing at all to do with the topic here :P
ps: all professional sports leagues are privatised with the exception of those in countries like China
Again, sweety, you’re not understanding the way the world works.
In the US, /school teams ARE professional teams/. I’m not sure why you’re not understanding that? Other than you’re not from the US?
Look. I understand where you’re coming from. You’re very young and you want to believe that these middle school children beat Olympic athletes based on merit because it would make these kids exceptional. It would make the pay gap that the female soccer players get, in your mind, acceptable. Yet, even if it were true that these children were magically able to beat Olympic athletes because… ball sweat is actually the secret to soccer victory or something, it would not have anything to do with the complaint about the pay gap.
In a capitalist society, you are not paid based on how good you are at something, but by how much money you bring in. the female US soccer team brought in /significantly/ more money than the male team.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/data-how-does-the-u-s-womens-soccer-team-pay-compare-to-the-men/
Once you get a little older and take some marketing and finance classes, you’ll understand this. even if you were right, which you are not, it would still be /irrelevant/. As I already said. It would make no difference to my post.
Look, I looked around the rest of your blog, and you’re a little kid so I don’t want to drag you. You seem really sweet, and your heart is in the right place. You’re concerned for people, like male rape victims, and it would probably behoove you to focus on things like that, things that are /real/. Because I /know/ it’s going to hurt to hear this. I know it is. But this is one of those things that you’re going to look back on and cringe. Not because your heart isn’t in the right place, but just because you don’t know how things like economic planning on a massive scale, professional sports training (no match is used to train, you don’t train by playing “practice matches”, you train by working on your body, teamwork, and strategy, it’s not as simple as you think it is), or, yes, shock of shock, gender difference on a sociological scale, impact certain events. You will eventually get a better grasp on this, but it’s a /complex/ issue. the short story is, no professionals don’t’ play gradeschoolers seriously. that’s not a thing.
Women soccer players wanting to be paid fairly for the money they bring into the league is not some evil feminist conspiracy like silencing rape victims. You’re just at an age where you’re having difficulty separating /actual/ problems from things that some Reddit MRA bitched about. just like some other teenagers have difficulty differentiating between tumblr feminism and “real world” feminism.
I’m glad that you’re trying. And I understand that the world seems like a huge, scary, evil place where everything is awful and the professional soccer players are out to get you and maybe, just maybe your team of kids can beat them if you just /really try/. It’s… god I don’t want to say cute because I swear to god I’m not trying to condescending, but it’s /charming/. It’s almost nostalgic.
Ok now you're just being insulting, but you're still wrong no matter how much you repeat yourself or change the subject. School teams are not professional teams (at least certainly not in soccer, which is what we're talking about here), professional teams are those in the MLS, which have their own youth teams outside of the school system. I know football dear, no need to be bitchy and wrong just for the fun of it when you clearly have no idea what the structure of the sporting world is.
I'm not very young but thanks for thinking so, and even if I was what I'm saying is not incorrect. THESE ARE NOT KIDS. Stop infantilising people who everywhere but the US are seen as functioning human beings able of doing more than drooling on themselves. You might like to ignore inconvenient things like biology and statistics but for anyone not blinkered by nonsense it's very clear that considering the CONSTANT beating of women's teams by youth teams, there is an obvious difference in overall skill. This is observation of facts, not sexism. Why on earth you seem to think sportspeople just roll over and play dead for anyone younger than them is a mystery.
The women's US team brought in more than the men's team yes - for one year when they had a major tournament and the men's team had nothing but friendly matches. They are also the only women's team in the world that outperformed... well, anyone. Again this is not sexist, it is fact. In nearly all countries in the world, female footballers bring in very little because there isn't as much interest in a game at lower level, the exact same way county league teams don't get paid the same as premiership teams. As for relevance to a post, yours is the totally irrelevant one which changed the topic from sport to schooling, so not sure what points you're trying to score there but it's not working.
I'm not a little kid, again no need to be a condescending liar to try making a point. You're clearly a complete fool if you think that training matches don't exist at both club and international level, so kindly don't try telling me that I don't know something when you're being flat out wrong and insulting. You can't just put your fingers in your ears and go LALALA NOPE NOT TRUE, the fact fact fact fact fact fact fact is that yes these games exist and yes they are serious matches. Your incapacity to believe anything that doesn't work to your own advantage is not a real argument; teams of different levels playing each other to test tactics and such is very much a thing no matter how much you want it to not be.
I have nothing against wanting to be paid fairly; what I have a problem with is people with the skills of lower league teams demanding top league wages because they managed to beat teams even weaker. I haven't mentioned feminism and don't use Reddit so no need to strawman that either. I never said anyone's out to get me, and you are being not only condescending but 110% wrong. You're making statements about things you're not educated on that are provably incorrect, which isn't cute or charming but damaging and rude. I have no idea where you got the idea that I'm a little kid or where you got the idea that those who are younger can't be good at anything, but it's incredibly blind of you when reality is not that hard to see.
Australian women soccer team the Matildas have had a shock 7-0 loss to a Newcastle Jets under-15 boys team in Newcastle on Wednesday in a disastrous preparation for the Rio Olympics.
Remember we had all of those posts a while ago complaining that female footballers were paid much less than men when they performed better? Remember when some took this to mean that the teams were better, and suggested that the women would thrash the men if given the chance?
Here is the fifth ranked women’s side in the world. Australia’s male side are ranked 50th, but that doesn’t make them worse. There are similar stories for Sweden, USA, and other top performing women’s teams in countries with weak men’s leagues.
uh, a random comment that may be something to consider:
If you put a bunch of olympic athletes up against school children, they tend to let the kids win.
even if that weren’t true…
-one women’s team plays badly- you see???? women sports players are just bad!!!!!!!
I’m just trying to figure out what fucked that commentor up so badly that he thought Olympic athletes were going to go out there and slaughter a group of grade school kids. Like… who hurt them that bad?
This is why I’ll never understand antifeminists.
Because this seems to be what they actually believe.
this has nothing to do with the OP’s dumbassery, but it’s weird to me that the grade school teams were segregated by sex. Is that something that other countries do? In the US we do that in high school sometimes if there are enough players, but in grade school our soccer teams are all just whatever kid joins. We don’t have a “girls” team and a “boys” team. that’s not a thing. If this had been the American Olympic team vs our gradeschoolers, they couldn’t run that ad because it wouldn’t have a gendered bias behind it. because our grade school soccer is unisex. A lot of our high school sports are unisex if there aren’t enough players for different gendered teams. I know at my school the football, cheerleading, dance, soccer, and swim teams were all unisex. We actually won the male cheerleading section at county because no other schools in the county had enough male athletes to run a routein on their own.
If you’d actually read the article - or even just the title - you’d know that this is nothing to do with school teams, it’s about the professional Newcastle Jets team. These “kids” are academy trained and are literally one year away from being eligible for international football. They are paid professionals who have been playing/training all their lives; they’re not toddlers who need to be lied to or given easy victories… and here you are calling someone a dumbass while having absolutely no idea yourself what you’re talking about or (apparently) how to even read an article before trying to argue with it.
I did read it. It doesn’t change anything I said?
You think that because these, again, grade school children, played a sport “professionally”, Olympic-level athletes are bringing their A-game? That’s not how things work in the really real world.
I use school teams because where I’m from, school teams ARE the professional teams. Our professional sports teams ages 4-24 are funded by the school system, not privately funded. You can GET publicly sourced “sponsors” but you still play FOR the school, not the sposor. Recruiters for places like the NBA or NFL will come to high schools and watch the players there. we don’t really value soccer as much as other countries, but it works in the same way.
this seems to be you just not having an understanding of how the american sporting system is set up, so maybe my comments will make a little more sense now.
This is a terrible system, by the way. Because of teh way that male athletes are prioritized, you see things like students /intentionally failing their academics/, because if they fail, they can he held back a year and continue to play on their sporting teams, because they think that their sports career is more important than their education. they think that they can impress the recruiters /next/ year, when in reality the chance of making it to a professional adult team are incredibly slim. this has become such a problem that many schools have implemented a “no pass, no play” rule, which states that in order to stay on ANY extracurricular, including a sports team, a student must maintain at least a C average.
You wanna talk about parents completely losing their shit. These policies have been fought tooth and nail by “concerned” parents who push their children to fail so they can have an extra season, with absolutely no concern for what that kind of pressure, and complete disregard o other aspects of their child’s life can do to their psyche. The coaches were absolutely outraged as well. And when you take into account the amount of money that sports bring into a school, MANY schoolboards are also in opposition. it’s a controversial rule, but many states are implementing it as law.
Personally, I support “no pass no play”. I think it’s important for students to have an academic career because the chances of getting picked by a professional team ARE so slim. You need something to fall back on. But, if we had privatized sports, like Australia, maybe this wouldn’t be a problem? I think it’s just genuinely never occurred to us. But if we did that, it would give higher SES students even more of an advantage over lower SES students, and we like to pretend that we’re a meritocracy, and I don’t think that we, as a society, would readily accept that.
It makes a huge difference to what you said, because in professional sports people don't coddle highly talented teenagers and suddenly decide not to play properly in a serious training match. Yes, they should be bringing their "A-game" because that is how things work in the real world - if you want to train properly, you play properly.
Women's teams around the world train against men's youth teams a lot (often due to lack of other women's teams around sadly) and it's not sexist to state that the winning teams are better. The US women's team lost 8-2 against the men's under 17s just before going on to win the Olympic gold, so this is not an outlier focused on weaker teams, it's a fairly normal state of affairs. England lose in friendly training matches all the time and we don't pretend that we let them win and are actually the best because that just isn't a reasonable claim.
This isn't about America and school leagues, it's about real professional footballers and a comparison of technical ability. Congratulations on managing to turn a post about professional sporting results into a massive critique of the American school sports system lmao that's quite a segue, and although I agree wholeheartedly with that critique it's got nothing at all to do with the topic here :P
ps: all professional sports leagues are privatised with the exception of those in countries like China
Australian women soccer team the Matildas have had a shock 7-0 loss to a Newcastle Jets under-15 boys team in Newcastle on Wednesday in a disastrous preparation for the Rio Olympics.
Remember we had all of those posts a while ago complaining that female footballers were paid much less than men when they performed better? Remember when some took this to mean that the teams were better, and suggested that the women would thrash the men if given the chance?
Here is the fifth ranked women’s side in the world. Australia’s male side are ranked 50th, but that doesn’t make them worse. There are similar stories for Sweden, USA, and other top performing women’s teams in countries with weak men’s leagues.
uh, a random comment that may be something to consider:
If you put a bunch of olympic athletes up against school children, they tend to let the kids win.
even if that weren’t true…
-one women’s team plays badly- you see???? women sports players are just bad!!!!!!!
I’m just trying to figure out what fucked that commentor up so badly that he thought Olympic athletes were going to go out there and slaughter a group of grade school kids. Like… who hurt them that bad?
This is why I’ll never understand antifeminists.
Because this seems to be what they actually believe.
this has nothing to do with the OP’s dumbassery, but it’s weird to me that the grade school teams were segregated by sex. Is that something that other countries do? In the US we do that in high school sometimes if there are enough players, but in grade school our soccer teams are all just whatever kid joins. We don’t have a “girls” team and a “boys” team. that’s not a thing. If this had been the American Olympic team vs our gradeschoolers, they couldn’t run that ad because it wouldn’t have a gendered bias behind it. because our grade school soccer is unisex. A lot of our high school sports are unisex if there aren’t enough players for different gendered teams. I know at my school the football, cheerleading, dance, soccer, and swim teams were all unisex. We actually won the male cheerleading section at county because no other schools in the county had enough male athletes to run a routein on their own.
If you’d actually read the article - or even just the title - you'd know that this is nothing to do with school teams, it's about the professional Newcastle Jets team. These "kids" are academy trained and are literally one year away from being eligible for international football. They are paid professionals who have been playing/training all their lives; they're not toddlers who need to be lied to or given easy victories... and here you are calling someone a dumbass while having absolutely no idea yourself what you're talking about or (apparently) how to even read an article before trying to argue with it.
Could you tell me again what you did this for? "I don't love you any more" Is all I remember you telling me Never have I felt so cold But I've no more blood to bleed 'Cause my heart has been draining into the sea
Isn’t a babies 1st birthday actually their 2nd?
I think they mean when they’re conceived in the womb.
That’s 9 months, not a year
Even then, a birthday marks the anniversary of your birth only.
omf people, all they mean is that they think when you’re born THAT is your first birthday because it’s when you were first born. It’s actually how they count age in some places in the world, nothing to do with conception :P
I hate how easy it is for you to not want me
