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no, not every trans woman has rape accusations made against her. being accused of rape is not some "rite of passage" for every trans woman. and it should not be presented, treated or normalized as such.
even when talking about a marginalized community that's more at risk of false accusations. depending on the size of a community within the larger marginalized demographic, a few people being falsely accused maybe wouldn't be that surprising or impossible. but if everyone in your little community/friendgroup has such allegations? then there is something clearly wrong with your community.
People who try to give you ultimatums like this generally dont want you to think about your options. Isff is being really blatant about it here, because there isnt a subtle bone in your body. According to her, when confronted with accusations of harm targeted at a trans woman, your only options are to either decide that ALL trans women are inherently evil monsters, or assume that ALL such accusations are false, and declares that any attempt at nuance will only bring you to the first option. This is, of course, supremely divorced from reality.
You can always assess each situation on its own while still taking into account the history of false accusations against marginalized people. Theres no need to blanket judgement one way or the other. So your next question should be to ask why she might present such an obviously flawed choice where no such choice is required. Given her history of defending admitted sexual assailants and self proclaimed pedophiles, an answer presents itself easily. She wants your blanket support because she doesnt want you to entertain the credible criticisms of her friend group, and is dragging every other transfem into the fray as a cover.
Its also worth noting that she's full of shit on that front. Her friend mordred/maidslime literally started spreading false sexual harassment allegations about me and ISFF said nothing. She has on numerous occasions turned on transfems who dont stand for her shit. She is not here to protect transfems. She's here to cover for her predator friends and using the rest of us as a shield. Disgusting
Tumblr is so white that youâll have people who call themselves âanti racistâ saying that being accused of racism is a death sentence
Like idk what to do anymore. Sometimes people are racist, and POC deserve actually to know if someone is racist before we give them our support!
Also the last time I talked about 4chan and the prevalence of laughing about having a Nazi phase amongst white queers i got some insane manifestos calling me a transmisogynist which is like can you hear yourself right now do you think 1. ignoring the entire existence of non white trans women and 2. Associating online neo nazis with trans women by default is not insanely transmisogynistic in itself
dropped a whole paragraph about it in my mutualâs comments but half the people on this site who cry about lolcowing would probably be the first to perpetuate it and a lot of them do
you say lolcow and think someone whose bad take blew up and got a ton of negative attention. i say lolcow and think someone whoâs being actively manipulated by bad faith actors who got close to them for the sake of validating their harmful beliefs and behaviors. who tell them theyâre not doing anything wrong and anyone who says otherwise is just being hateful unlike them, their best friends. who lie and keep them from improving, because once they get better the game is over, thereâs no more shit to farm from their mouths. in recent memory iâve seen people be called lolcows because they received backlash for racism, or pedophilia, or rape apologia, and iâve seen a lot of defense for those actions by people who do the same. i donât think most of them fit the criteria of a lolcow but if they did, some of those defenders would be right up there âmanagingâ them
The Rules of Anti-Transmasculinity
1. Your body is not your own.
1a. Your body is a site for otherâs desires.
If they want you to be beautiful, it is cruel of you to deny them that. If they want you to be feminine, it is cruel of you to deny them that. If they think you should reproduce, it is cruel of you to divest yourself of reproductive duties.
1b. Your body is owned by the state.
Reproductive laws that can affect cis women also affect you, but you cannot weigh in on them, because you are not a woman.
Anti-trans laws affect you, but you must not bring this up; you are never the ârealâ target, even when you are, because you are not âreallyâ trans.
When the legislation talks about âprotectingâ your fertility, you should feel lucky to be safeguarded from yourself.
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2. Your experiences are not your own.
Your childhood does not exist. You cannot claim girlhood if you are a man, and you cannot claim boyhood if you did not grow up within it, and no other visions of childhood may exist. Your history, however you define it, is fundamentally incompatible with who you are.
Forms of sexism which are aimed at women, by a binary logic, cannot be aimed at men or mascs. If your experiences contradict this, either you are invalidating your identity, or you are appropriating womanhood.
It is your duty to blithely dissociate yourself from any trauma patriarchy may have inflicted on you. Men cannot be affected by these things even if it happens to them personally. A ârealâ man must be stoic and uncaring.
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3. You are a âdefaultâ body.
You are to be assumed affluent, perisex, binary, and passing, with no legal or situational barriers to medical or social transition, and no reproductive concerns to speak of â unless your nonconformity can be used to dismiss you.
You are assumed to be able-bodied, sane of mind, white, and thin â unless your mental health or appearance is good for mockery.
You are to be treated as essentially cismasculine. Being treated as if you are cis is a compliment, even when it is erasing your lived experiences, and even if it is known and true that transfems have their own unique struggles from cis women too.
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4. You are an âaberrantâ body.
4a. Your body is a site of fascination. You (are presumed to) have a gestative capacity, and a fun extra hole. These traits are relevant when others assess your attractiveness and their kinks. They are not relevant in the context of your health. Youâre a submissive little bottom, right?
(Your body is something to conquer and claim. This may be done to emphasize your femininity, deny your androgyny, or defang your masculinity.)
4b. Your body is a site of disgust. Any steps you may take to masculinize yourself are âruiningâ your âfemaleâ features, regardless of any joy you personally take from the changes, and regardless of if you engage with medical transition or not.
(You are killing the woman you are supposed to be. Stand trial.)
4c. Your body is too unattractive to be sexually violenced. It doesnât happen. When it does, you have anatomical privilege, because you are (presumed to be) in possession of a vulva, and victims with those are of course always believed. But it doesnât happen, because you are essentially a cis man, and of course men don't get raped.
(It is not possible to be targeted for this violence because you are transmasculine. It is always misaimed violence, intended for someone else. Apologize to her for taking up her space.)
4d. Your body is a proxy for otherâs ideas about activism. Womanhood is good, and manhood is bad, and things in-between are uncomfortable and hard to classify; therefore, a detransition back to cisfemininity would be a preferable state of being, wouldnât it?
(Your transition is at odds with good feminism.)
4e. Your body is a joke. Men donât menstruate. Men donât gestate. Men donât lactate. Men can't have breasts. If the suggestion sends people into hysterics, you must take it lying down.
(Remember; comedy is subversion, and you are an âabberantâ body.)
4f. Your body is a hypothetical and not a lived reality. If men could menstruate or gestate, that would fix patriarchy. It would not result in men being denied at the door of the gynecology office, surely.
(To entertain your existence is a rhetorical inconvenience.)
4g. Your body is a source of put-down. You are a cunt, a pussy, a fembrained bitchmoid â and it isnât sexist to refer to you as such, because you are a man. Your disinclination to be reduced to bioessentialist biogotry is simply proof that your masculinity is fragile. It is not proper for you to object to it, even when it is the same rhetoric spewed by patriarchy itself, and even if it would be equally galling to say to a woman, cis or trans.
(Have you not considered that your trans body is privileged under cis patriarchy?)
4h. Passing is universal to all transmasculine bodies and all life situations. Closeted, clocky, queer, or femme trans men and mascs cannot exist, and are not subjected to the same violence as women or other queer men. Legal gender markers donât matter. Medical access isnât a concern. People from your past cannot possibly be vindictive enough to out you, because queer or not, you have male privilege.
(Have you considered that you simply arenât trying hard enough to pass?)
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5. If you are inadequately masculine, pre-transition, nonbinary, or bi-gendered, you cannot âreallyâ be a man.
Remember; you are a lost little girl when you need to be talked down to.
Remember; manhood and womanhood are diametric opposites, exclusive states of being.
Remember; poverty is not an excuse.
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6. If you are inadequately feminine or too masculine, you cannot âreallyâ be queer.
Remember; you are a âdefaultâ body.
Remember; you are essentially cis.
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7. If you are too assertive or too unwilling to serve as a punching bag, you cannot âreallyâ be a feminist.
Remember; men cannot be feminists.
Remember; men cannot need feminism.
Remember; your masculinity is most readily acknowledged when it provides a rhetorical threat.
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8. If you really insist on your masculinity, then it must be in service to others. You owe them labor, defense, money, and deference.
You are not owed equality or reciprocity, because men are responsible for patriarchy. You are on the hook for the patriarchâs debt, and you are presumed to share his wallet.
(A man is a protector and a provider. I thought you wanted to be a man?)
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9. Your interest in your own autonomy is indistinguishable from power-grabbing.
Your self-determination and self-advocacy aligns you with patriarchal interests, or is a sign that you are too battered by patriarchy to self-determine in the first place. Someone else must decide these things for you. Someone else must speculate on your motives. You do not get to speak for yourself.
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10. Your inclusion and representation is not important.
10a. When you notice your absence from culture, art, and storytelling, others ask; why do you not simply project your experiences onto cis men? Remember, you are a default body. Surely you are different from other queer people who need direct representation.
(When you try to do that, you are classically fembrained and illiterate for thinking a given character could have transmasculine subtext or themes.)
Projecting onto cis women is akin to killing them.
Why are you not satisfied with mpreg fanfic?
10b. When you make your own art and stories, you are playing with dolls. It is unimportant, juvenile, and easily dismissed much in the way that people discuss teenage girls who act as culture-makers.
(If transmasculinity is not present in the world of art, it must be because it has no artistic merit.)
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11. Your erasure is proof that you have nothing to offer.
The muffling of violence done to you or your brothers is proof that no violence occurs in the first place.
The muffling of you or your brotherâs contributions is proof that none of you contributed in the first place.
The removal of your brothers from the historical narrative is proof that they didnât exist, or that they never stood in solidarity with other feminists and queers.
Silence is proof that you need not speak.
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12. Denying any danger that you may be in is affirmative to your masculinity, because men cannot be harmed.
There are no statistics that say otherwise if we never read them.
There are no patterns of abuse if we never speak of them.
There are no dead if they are recorded as femicides.
There are no victims if we do not speak their names.
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These contradictory impositions are not aimed at transmascs alone, but they are the recurring patterns I notice as a transmasculine feminist. We are not the only ones in danger, but we are queer all the same, and all queerness is targeted under patriarchy.
This might be me just overeading it butâŚ
Does anyone else feel like sometimes Hitomi is a pervert in the worst way?
Sometimes she looks so smug and proud or like she achieved victory⌠i donât feel like sheâs horny/sexually attracted/attracted to Hitch in a normal way, because, you know, its normal to feel horny and attracted to your partner.
This just feels extra weird to me after the whole âIâm AtTrAcTeD tO a MoUsE!!!1!!?!1?â Bullshit. Why is she acting like Hitch is her guilty pleasure? A trophy to her? Like her fetish bf? Maybe he is.
It feels almost like sheâs taking advantage of him, or is just weirdly perverted (having hitches reactions on the first and fifth images.) Sheâs giving âdouchebag bf who peaked in high school that brags about his gfs looks (in an objectifying way) and sexual time with her to his equally immature male friends.â
To Salems credit, he has one or another art where Hitomi is normally flustered and not⌠that
This is cute (could be cuter if âI want that fat boyâ wasnât there)
I hadnât noticed the text there wait fuck why is this so funny now stop
IF WE IGNORE THR TEXT ITS SOMEWHAT ALRIGHT STOP Iâm not correcting this ts so funny
MORAL OF THE STORY DONT KEEP YOUR EXPECTATIONS TOO HIGH ON SALEM/hj
But if it wasnât obvious, the only reason âI want that fat boyâ is ââproblematicââ in this situation is because Salem sees his fat gnc transmasc/trans guy ocs as a fetish and not as actual beings/characters to connect and create. Nope. Itâs all for him to jerk off. đđđ
I also have mixed feelings with this one. At the same time itâs just Hitomi being socially awkward/shy/flustered thereâs something about it that ticks me off. Maybe itâs just her overall behavior that kills this one for me.
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who is surprised that the guy who thinks he only has value through his sexual promiscuity writes his partner's self-insert as a pervert that objectifies everything about his own self-insert . while making sure his self-insert doesnt have any real personality traits outside of "likes to draw" and "super emo !!11!!" (contradicts himself multiple times btw) . good job on making the most redundant t4t couple ever salem now we have great rep for white chaser trans women wooooo
i may be a moralfag or maybe even those evil tumblr puritans for this but the fact that we are not chasing wolfertinger666 aka PUPPYCHAN out once more from using his audience as a sympathy pillow for LARPing as an ESL asian artist and then once you point it out to him he tells you to kill yourself (we on tumblr you can just spell it out you know) (also real kind and progressive of you to do to fellow minorities on this website salem!) and then weeps about himself and how he's just a misunderstood bullied starving artist again and again. Of course he isn't sorry because he knows damn well as long as he posts mid tier furry softcore often enough he can get an audience of enablers who will look over everything
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if a trans man needs to hide the fact that he's trans in order to access any form of male privilege, i simply do not believe that is real privilege. i will, and never will, accept that the closet is a privilege. any queer person can go into the closet to access "privilege," and it's dumb when you all try to argue that bs too. are you not tired of making the exact same arguments about recycled queer groups every 5-10 years? nothing is ever new except the New Queer Enemy really IS privileged and evil this time, we promise!
âPeople should pass a test before being allowed to have kids.â âIsnât it scary how white people have this inborn capacity for evil?â âIâll never pass because males and females have different skull shapes.â âAutistic people have a stronger sense of justice than anyone else.â âI donât want AMABs in my space because theyâre dangerous.â âYou shouldnât have access to hormones if you dress like THAT.â âAnyone who does something that awful isnât human.â âSome people really shouldnât be allowed to vote.â
This is eugenics. This is phrenology. THIS IS NAZI SHIT, YOU ARE A LEFTIST BUYING INTO NAZI SHIT. YOU ARE NOT IMMUNE TO NAZI SHIT.
This is genuinely one of the most vile posts I've ever seen on here.
The idea that transmascs (or any marginalized person, really) are excited about the idea of getting to be "higher" on the social ladder than someone else. This is just plain bigotry with literally no basis in reality.
This post already has hundreds of uncrtical reblogs. Knowing that, at minimum, hundreds of people think this of transmascs makes me sick to my stomach. When history looks back on your hatred I will not be forgiving any of you.
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everyone sending mopdog8 belamopdog wis money needs to contend with the fact they're sending money to a racist white woman who harassed a Latino person for years, publicly doxxed them, tried to say they're secretly white, dated and defended their rapist (KNOWING she's a rapist), said "I don't think I believe you" to her victim AFTER SHE ADMITTED IT, defends asianfishing TO THIS DAY.
I just couldn't spend my hard earned cash on a racist, rape-defending, ableist asshole.
Does that trans man actually "want to be seen as a woman" or is he so afraid of being assaulted in men's spaces if he is outed that he will use women's spaces?
Does that trans man actually "want to be seen as a woman" or is he asking you not to erase his lived experience?
Does that trans man actually "want to be seen as a woman" or has he been scared by all the posts mocking male transition results into thinking he'll be a laughingstock if he starts balding?
Does that trans man actually "want to be seen as a woman" or has he seen masculine people be treated as inherently predatory so often that he holds this back to be seen as a person?
Does that trans man actually "want to be seen as a woman" or is he trying to avoid being treated the way you treat masculine people?
Does that trans man actually "want to be seen as a woman" or is his childhood still influencing how he conducts himself?
Does that trans man actually "want to be seen as a woman" or is he speaking about misogyny he has experienced?
THE NEEDS AND DESIRES OF WHICH MEN, YOU STUPID ASSHOLE???? CISGENDER MEN!!!!!
I literally gasped i truly cannot believe there's people who fail to comprehend reality this badly, and then in the same post act so patronising and like trans men are the ones not understanding social theory because they can see this simplistic bullshit is just plain wrong and not true
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that is literally not what ooop is saying. what.
trans people arent considered to be men or women by transphobes. we are all considered to be a third gender, and failures to conform to cisgenderism/"failures of gender." if transphobia didn't exist, then we could say that trans men are in the sociopolitical class of man, and trans women are in the sociopolitical class of woman, but unfortunately transphobia does exist. if this were true then transmisogyny/transandrophobia also wouldnt exist, because trans men would just be seen as men by wider society, and trans women would just be seen as women by wider society
trans women and cis women are both misogynized. trans men and other trans people are also misogynized. you COULD say that trans people who are misogynized (pretty much all of us) are in the sociopolitical class of woman, but trans people are third gendered and seen as failures to conform to gender, thats literally where transphobia comes from
i will also say that trans women are not in the sociopolitical class of man and trans men are not in the sociopolitical class of woman. trans people are universally seen as failures to conform to cisgenderism. a lot of transphobes say that they see trans women as men and trans men as women, and that is usually not true. first and foremost they see us as trans, seperate from men or women. again, that is where transphobia (including transandrophobia and transmisogyny) comes from. if transphobia did not exist, and trans men were seen as men and trans women were seen as women, neither transmisogyny or transandrophobia would exist. trans men would also have male privilege if misogyny existed without transphobia, but we do unfortunately live in the reality where transphobia does exist so none of this is true
trans women and trans men arent really seen as very distinct from each other by the average transphobe, and transphobes who are bigotted to one gender in particular (this includes trfs/tmerfs btw) are always balanced out by another group of transphobes who only target another gender in particular, and are also always bigotted towards all trans people and are just covert about it. neither trans men nor trans women have substantial privilege over one another. we are both oppressed in our own unique ways and we are also oppressed in most of the same ways. unfortunately, trans women are not in the sociopolitical class of women, because transphobia exists (as does transmisogyny) that excludes them from cisnormative womanhood just as it excludes trans men from cisnormative manhood. thats also why the argument that "well disabled men are still considered men" doesnt really hold up, because trans people are uniquely affected by third gendering, so on a base level to transphobes, none of us are really considered men OR women
in conclusion, trans people are trans and are in the sociopolitical class of trans. because transphobia exists and wider society oppresses trans people
as part of the transfem voices project, mousidy felt the need to highlight the voice of a woman who, as a 12 year old boy addicted to loli pornography, molested an 8 year old girl and spent years in the juvenile detention system as a result. this woman is now a 30 year old self-admitted pedophile, enabled by parents (whose support she credits with keeping her alive) who have seemingly coddled her every step of the way, including somehow allowing their child the means to easily access pornography after molesting another child, who now self-flagellates on tumblr about how much she wants to die because people would want her dead just knowing that she is a pedophile. not even based on the fact that she was a 12 year old boy that molested an 8 year old girl.
she loosely connects her story to transmisogyny at the end by going "well idk if I faced transmisogyny before I came out but I did after I'm so scared because transmisogynists would call me a pedophile and they would be right everyone wants me dead I can't be pedojacketed because I have the jacket on :("
great #OwnVoices job, team. knocked it out of the park. hit the showers.
if you are able, consider donating to a group like Survivors of Incest Anonymous, which helps provide a safe space for victims of CSA, including victims of COCSA, to talk about and heal from their experiences.
Hey, look who commented on that exact post.