I'm currently reading a lot of webtoons, webnovels, and fics and love to talk about them. This list includes but is not limited to: Got Dropped in a Ghost Story, Still Gotta Work, the S Classes that i Raised, Assistant Manager Kim Hates Idols.
Its not in those categories but i love the Murderbot Diaries (the books, i haven't watched the show yet).
I draw, usually for things i'm reading.
Not sure what else ppl usually put in their info posts? I'll edit this more later.
Hi!! Thank you for all your posts that help translate/explains things in GSGW!
I've been wondering if the translation "Wish Ticket" is accurate? It has always seemed a little strange to me, since Daydream makes potions, and all the others are still called potions. Is there some meaning being lost there, or is it really called that in Korean?
Thank you so much!
Hi,
Outside of GDCG, 소원권 in everyday life is usually the word for a homemade coupon you give to your friends and/or loved ones. It's supposed to be like a cutesy gift, a 'you get one wish out of me for free!' type of thing. For those I'd say a more accurate translation would be 'Wish Coupon'.
Below is the google img search result for '소원권' which might give you an idea of how it's used in everyday context.
So GDCG is playing on this pre-existing concept, by making this 'wish coupon' an actual magical potion that grants your wishes.
Q. Did BSH enter the darkness? What?
A. They're in the branch office, people are being transformed, on the wall an arch doorway opens and the choir starts walking in -> the quarantine door opens for some reason -> KSE and others run out -> he sees BSH on the ceiling vents lowering a rope towards him
So they're not inside a darkness so to speak
The darkness came to them
Q. I need help with these two parts
A.
1st pic (researcher talking with KSE after he insults JNS)
Researcher: what now.
KSE: Do you perhaps feel unwell?
Researcher: Huh? What business is it of yours if I'm sick or not
KSE: It feels like you will pass away tomorrow.
…
Researcher: what?
Researcher: Wha-what are you talking about. Why are you saying something like…
2nd pic (while the mouse-head from the choir tries out the trombone)
Soundsoundsoundmusicbeauuuuutifulmusicriiiiriiiriiiriiiingingbeautifultouchingit seems to be the details of the fine tuning that makes all the difference in creating good sound from instrumentsssoundsound…
Thoughts
ok I am worried that BSH isn't here
omg… This researcher openly talking about JNS's past and mocking her…
It's so heartbreaking tbh, JNS really does think of herself as having become worthless trash.
KSE so furious on her behalf that he takes revenge in his own way...! Reminds me of when in Sekwang that conductor guy publicly & unfairly reprimanded GYE and KSE let him trip over his foot
KSE now locked in with all those guys who will experience "side effects" 😭
ooo everyone becoming instruments!
yes the choir proper is back! KSE going near insane
omg
ok incredibly interesting to me that BSH yells at him to don't try to save the other guy and give up on him -> KSE does so -> "a strange sense of excitement flashes in BSH's eye" he is so excited to see KSE listen to his words and abandons the other guy!
anyway yay they move to KSE's room through the vents~ ooo so exciting
this arc
KSE: I can make him better…? Huh?
BSH: I can make him worse
Ok this is just me thinking
But I think BSH is excited to see KSE listen to him + also agree to prioritize his own survival rather than take care of others (previously a conflict point between the two of them)
The thing is, from KSE pov he's being consistent, he helps others when he can and doesn't when he can't.
But to BSH it's like, this guy constantly is arguing that he should lower his own chance of survival (even when KSE is lowering it by 0.01%)
So he's super satisfied to see KSE not do that & listen to him instead
Ok I've looked at twt and people seem to have a lot of different theories about BSH's reaction. Interesting interesting...
Ooh people are saying that the choir is the chinese zodiac!
Some thoughts on Baek Saheon, focusing on how he feels about Kim Soleum.
Includes :
BSH in part 1 & 2
BSH in part 3
What BSH wants
Spoilers up to 394.
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BSH in part 1 & 2
1.
During part 1, BSH is constantly intimidated and terrorized by KSE. At the same time, KSE saves his life multiple times.
BSH himself wonders about this. But he concludes that the psychopath is simply deriving some sort of enjoyment out of keeping him alive.
[ep 53]
But…
“......”
Was Kim Soleum really a lunatic?
To be more precise, why did he… save his life?
In truth, he knew. In the gallery, Kim Soleum could have killed or sacrificed him multiple times, but did not do so.
He did mess with him a few times, but at the end of the day…
‘No!’
It must have been for enjoyment. Because it’s more fun to keep him alive, to keep more variability in the situation!
Baek Saheon quickly made his conclusion. He’d never met such a crazy person like this before in his life…
2.
During part 2, BSH constantly is helpful to the Jisan Agent. This is because he helped him once and experienced the feeling of fulfillment that comes from successfully helping out someone.
I wrote about it here : On BSH and the agent from Jisan.
This is usually something you learn as, like, a pre-schooler. Either BSH didn’t have the experience of realizing that it makes you feel happy to (for example) make breakfast for your family or something, or all his experience of feeling good about helping someone was suppressed by his later experiences of prioritizing himself and himself only for the sake of survival. (More might be revealed if we learn more about his relationship with his sister). I think the latter makes sense since to current BSH’s mind everything other than ‘survival’ is just background noise. Jisan Agent case only affected him this much bc it did involve the matter of his own survival.
In any case, BSH learns (or re-learns) it as an adult.
As a result, he keeps being helpful to the Jisan agent, the one who taught him that it can feel nice to save someone.
During hospital arc, KSE tries to extend this to helping others as well. He tries to generalize his lesson of “survival isn’t always a zero-sum game, you can help others without necessarily risking your own survival” to not just helping him but helping others as well. As a result BSH gets thanked by the guy who they helped, and he does experience a “strange feeling”. So there is a potential of BSH becoming more altruistic (as long as it doesn’t risk himself) in general and not just towards the Jisan Agent.
However, as far as we know, this hasn’t happened since the hospital arc, so at the moment this only exists as a potential. (Maybe he helped some other people during the 3 years but so far we don’t know.)
So far, all we know is that BSH’s list of who should survive went from ‘Me’ to ‘Me and Jisan Agent’.
3.
At the end of part 2, we find out that BSH had been suspecting Jisan Agent to be the same person as KSE for quite some time. (At least since before hospital arc)
Explanation on BSH's suspicion
However, he wasn’t ready to accept it.
[Ep 369]
“Are you… actually…”
The agent who becomes unreachable when a certain person goes missing.
The agent who seems to know him strangely well.
Did that…
……
……
“Well, never mind.”
Baek Saheon took his hand off the tank.
He couldn’t get an answer right now anyway.
No, perhaps he himself wasn't ready yet…
BSH in part 3
1.
In part 3, it seems that during the 3 years, BSH has come to accept that KSE is the Jisan Agent. It probably helped that both these personas went missing for 3 years.
In addition, he seemingly has deduced that KSE’s actual personality must be closer to the Jisan Agent - an altruistic, kind person.
[Ep 392]
“......Hah.”
Baek Saheon pressed his hands on his eyelids.
“I knew it, that you're this kind of person…”
After all, even Roe Deer had kept saving his life. So it all makes sense that way.
2.
BSH also seemingly thought about ‘Then why did he keep up a psychopathic front in front of me?’. He seemingly came to a (pretty accurate) conclusion about it.
[Ep 394]
“And you don't need to be so worried about getting caught. If she was the type of person to not be able to control herself and get caught, no matter how we're cooperating with each other, I wouldn't have been honest towards her.”
“......Ah.”
Baek Saheon’s one eye stares alternately at me and Assistant Manager Jin Nasol.
“Because that's what it was like with a guy like me, huh?”
To me, the above bit read as BSH having his suspicions be confirmed, rather than realzing it for the first time. Because it’s not like KSE was talking directly about BSH, when BSH suddenly brings up the subject of himself. I think he already concluded that that’s why KSE kept up that front towards him, but having it be indirectly confirmed by KSE made him get emotional.
It makes sense that BSH would come to this conclusion. BSH himself knows that he’s a selfish, greedy person.
[ep41]
Baek Sa-heon knew that he was a selfish person, obsessed with practical gains.
In 393, he also seemingly feels a ‘twisted amusement’ when talking about how the guys who beat up KSE ends up calling him a lunatic. Presumably because he now knows that that’s KSE doing his thing.
But also, this must have been another confirmation - on against which type of people KSE pretends to be a lunatic.
3.
To summarize.
For a long time, BSH believed that ‘KSE may act like a kind and caring person in front of others, but he shows his true face to me. He’s a psychopath!’.
[ep49]
Go Yeongeun looked at me with a look of pity on her eyes.
“Hm. Since in corporate life, people look down on you for even being too nice, maybe you might like to consider not speaking too highly of others?”
Huh?
No matter how I look at it, it seems like you’re seeing me in an overly good light because of how I saved your life… but thinking of my silver heart, I just bowed my head.
Let’s be nice!
“……Thank you for the advice.”
Baek Saheon looked back and forth between Go Yeongeun and me with a look of disbelief, but then shut his mouth.
Then he stood up from his seat and left without saying goodbye.
But slowly he realizes the truth :
In fact, KSE’s true personality is closer to the kind, caring persona he shows toward others. It was only towards BSH that KSE was putting up a psychopath front.
In addition, even when having a long-term cooperative relationship with BSH as Jisan Agent, KSE never revealed himself to him. He only added it to the list of roles he played. He was never honest towards him.
Why?
Because BSH was an untrustworthy bastard, that’s why.
He was so untrustworthy to KSE that even after they built up a genuinely cooperative relationship, he never let BSH see his true face.
Everyone else knew that KSE is Jisan Agent but BSH. As a result, everyone else knew that the liquified being at the end of part 2 was KSE but BSH.
That’s how little KSE thought of BSH.
Again - BSH himself knows that he’s a selfish and greedy guy.
But still. To realize that this one person in your life who taught you about altruism, who saved your life multiple times (and not bc he was a psychopath like he originally thought lol), who is the one person in your life that you want to keep helping & saving & caring for, thinks of you that way…
Isn’t it only natural that it hurts your feelings?
BSH probably had some time to deal with this realization, but still, when KSE indirectly confirms it in 394, I think it’s understandable that he lashes out.
What BSH wants
Currently, from the text, BSH seemingly has two conflicting wants when it comes to KSE.
1st, He wants to lord it over KSE (the former Roe Deer) a little that he’s now the higher up and KSE is a lowly worker.
This fails at every turn he tries it bc KSE simply does not care. He just will not be intimidated by their difference in position.
And BSH seemingly doesn’t want to actually enforce anything. Like, in 394 when KSE greets him by saying ‘section chief-nim’ BSH is immediately like ‘speak casually’ while using honorifics himself. BSH doesn’t actually want KSE to be sincerely intimidated by his position.
But still he wants to lord it over him a little, you know? So he’ll say things like (ep 393) “If you're in your right mind, shouldn't you be saying '(in honorifics) Do this please, I beg of you' first?” Only for KSE to take the fun out of it by easily complying without any emotion.
2nd, He wants to help KSE (the former Jisan Agent) who is for some reason stuck in a hellhole receiving terrible treatment.
As KSE himself points out, Section Chief BSH keeps going out of his way to help him when KSE himself only asked for one thing. Canceling his bills, saying he’ll smuggle KSE out of there… This is arguably even going beyond the things he did for the Jisan Agent.
Of course, this is all only possible bc BSH now has the power to do it. He says so himself - when KSE is like, don’t overdo it, BSH is like, it’s not like I’m still a supervisor.
BSH now also has the advantage of actually knowing KSE’s situation fully (...well at least more comprehensibly than he did) so he can actually anticipate KSE’s needs and help him without KSE asking for it.
Based on these two things. I’m going further and saying:
3rd, BSH wants KSE to think of him as trustworthy and dependable.
He himself thinks of KSE as special - the only person whose survival he prioritizes besides himself. But KSE obviously did not think much of him despite all their connections. To KSE, BSH was less trustworthy than a bunch of his other colleagues.
But now, BSH knows about all of KSE’s lies. (well not all of them but yk) Moreover, now BSH is in a position where he can actually make a meaningful difference in KSE’s life.
(When KSE gets worried about him getting noticed, BSH is like, I’m a section chief, okay?! There’s no need to worry about me getting noticed! (Also, you’re worrying about me now?))
So, now, BSH wants to say - trust me, depend on me, ask for my help, you can trust me now, I can do much more for you now…
The thing is, BSH is going about all this in not a very sophisticated way.
For one thing, the fact that he has those two conflicting wants which he keeps showing at the same time is pretty funny. Like, stick to one thing and you might get it.
Also, one way for BSH to gain more of KSE’s trust would have been to show altruism to people beyond KSE. Like at least make a try. But when BSH realizes KSE told JNS about the pills, he gets immediately pissed bc it’s unnecessary risk. (Him helping KSE was necessary risk of course) And the way he expresses that feeling - he’s like. I only shared this (potentially lifesaving) info to help YOU, not anyone else! You should have asked for my permission! <- incredibly immature way to express his displeasure
BSH def knows that KSE would like for him to be more altruistic. too. (again, the hospital arc.) He gets incredibly defensive and ‘even a bit desperate’ in 392 when he talks about how KSE looks disappointed in him about not having helped others. (I can’t even tell if KSE actually looked disappointed or BSH was just reading into his expression of concern for the other guys.)
In short, despite how much BSH has changed, in many ways, he hasn’t changed much at all. He’s still the same BSH who was selfish, temperamental and always on the defensive.
It’s just that he now really really cares for KSE and wants KSE to trust and depend on him.
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Anyway, that's my thoughts on BSH.
In conclusion, KSE should maybe consider voicing out loud some of his inner narration about how impressed he is by Section Chief BSH! Wouldn't that make BSH happy!
And also he should give him headpats and chin scritches and maybe hold his hand and have sleepovers and tell him that they can be best of best friends from now on - (gets incinerated by Braun)
Guys i think if kim soleum told baek saheon that he was planning on getting revenge on the researcher and his tormentors, bsh might actually pass out from joy
I turned my head and saw the face of the remaining monster from the duo. It was pulling my leg with desperate strength.
"Let go!"
A spine tore out from its back, arching into a beautiful, ivory-white structure. Its facial features were being carved...
...as the flaws vanish, the figure seems to stand out more clearly.
"Don't help! Just let go!"
I gritted my teeth and kicked my foot free.
"Aaaaaaaaaah?"
The thing that had been human recedes.
I nearly lost my balance, but I clung to the ventilation duct like a madman and scrambled up. And then, and then...
Thud.
I landed inside the vent.
"Well done!" Baek Saheon, who had pulled me up by my back, shouted.
For a moment, I thought I saw a strange sense of euphoria flash through his eyes..."
Baek saheon happy that kim soleum for once did something to protect himself 😂 (in his opinion)
We also see kse plan on getting at least some revenge on the researcher and the other people who have been making others lives miserable. Its definitely showing more this season of how kse does use discernment to choose what people he will save. Almost like a milder version of lee seonghae lol.
Its interesting to see how he acts now that he doesnt have the overwhelming dread of not being able to get home hanging over him. He almost seems to be able to (not sure if this is the right description) enjoy himself more? Such as in his convo with jin nasol where he says something along the lines of being happy can make things bearable.
im reading Our Hotel is Open for Business as Usual and saw this:
"Seeing it in person was thrilling and welcoming, not frightening. If I were truly scared by horror elements, I wouldn’t have played a horror game in the first place."
This made me think of poor Kim Soleum, he and Lee Yeonwoo are so similar yet so different
kim soleum so damn protective of those glasses trust me brother nobody wants that bs Except 4 U do u seriously think baek one eye remaining saheon would want the item that makes your eyes bleed
I actually recommend everyone write for a rarepair once because it completely changes your relationship with fandom. Engagement stops being numbers and starts being names. You know who's going to show up. You recognize usernames. Someone disappears for a while and then comes back and you're like “OH MY GOD WELCOME HOME.” It's incredibly wholesome. It is also deeply inconvenient when all six of you simultaneously get writer's block-
braunsol for the toxic codependency that somehow seems to work. braun is by far a character that has spent the most time with kse, someone who's heard of his inner dialogues, his thoughts and feelings. The character that knows soleum most intimately. ...but does he understand him? This proved to be a struggle several times as Braun had different ideologies and values due to being a non-human entity. Soleum understands this very well and constantly reminds himself in attempts to detach in order to not get disappointed again. Braun not apologizing for his actions also proves that he does not think he was wrong in any way. What was a horrifying reality to Soleum was simply an entertaining show to Braun. Nonetheless, Braun IS a good friend and I believe he fulfils his duty very well (or at least, he thinks he does, lol). Their friendship was real and they do care for each other (Braun holding onto the plush doll, kse constantly thinking about what braun would say when he wasn't there). I really enjoyed their last scene at the end of part 2. Kse, cautious but also couldn't help asking if Braun was okay with things ending like this. Braun responding with the most host-like answer i could think of, really.
Moving onto Solsah, this has been THE ship for me. It's kind of a comfort ship because a lot of scenes with bsh and kse make me laugh a lot. Bsh is a very expressive character and it was quite enjoyable to see it through kse's perspective. It's also the fact that they keep encountering each other unexpectedly. Almost like fate. Them being roommates, somehow teaming up in the manor of the blind arc, meeting at the train to tarma arc, and let's not forget the jisan arc. Before Jisan arc solsah has been that fun ship but it really gained a layer of complexity after that. I think it's the only time soleum really let his guard down and was vulnerable. Sure, he was under the disguise of an agent but it was still vulnerable admitting that he wanted to die. It was also the same for Saheon. Jisan village was what tied him down and restricted him from freedom. Kse saw bsh at his most desperate moments and what he did as the agent was technically freeing bsh from what has confined him ever since a child. Now you can't tell me this wasn't pivotal for bsh. Ofc he didn't take an 180 degrees turn and become the nicest guy in the room but if anyone had a positive impact on him it was agent grapes. I kind of expected him to find out kse is agent grapes in a dramatic way but honestly I ended up liking how he just sorta connected the dots over time. Who would've thought viper, the greedy, selfish character would soften to the point that he'd be willing to give away his points for kse? His character development shines through his actions instead of words which did justice to his character and preserved his original personality. It's even more satisfying in part 3 where he's fully acknowledged that kse was the agent and kse dropping the act altogether. I'm really excited for what's to come.
jaysol/ jahsol
what these two have in common is that they never fumbled (i'm looking at you choi, jk). That aside, they have this consistency and stability. Jaheon has always been such a reliable character. He may be mysterious but he's very straightforward and it's quite charming. And of course, there was also the iconic scene outside of the fox counseling room. (iykyk). Jaheon to me is kind of like this grounding force. He's very responsible and has always looked out for soleum. I prefer them as a platonic pair but nonetheless their dynamic is great. J3 too has reliable/comforting vibe to him. I see j3 and soleum more as friends. The kind of friendship where you don't need to say much but when you need them, they'll always show up. J3 looking for soleum after he went missing moved me so much. He never gave up on him. Both ships are possibly the healthiest dynamics for soleum in my opinion.
