I'm currently reading a lot of webtoons, webnovels, and fics and love to talk about them. This list includes but is not limited to: Got Dropped in a Ghost Story, Still Gotta Work, the S Classes that i Raised, Assistant Manager Kim Hates Idols.
Its not in those categories but i love the Murderbot Diaries (the books, i haven't watched the show yet).
I draw, usually for things i'm reading.
Not sure what else ppl usually put in their info posts? I'll edit this more later.
395 describes that a look of strange 희열감 flashed in Baek Saheon's eyes upon seeing KSE decide to not try to save the other guy and instead shake him off (as BSH told him to) and climb up safely to BSH.
희열감. A feeling of 희열. This can be translated to thrill, excitement, delight, ecstasy etc.
This isn't the first time the look on BSH's face was described with this word.
During Jisan, when KSE picks the golden rod - he sees BSH on the far side, holding the lottery box, his face full of 희열, smiling.
you have to consciously unlearn racism and continue to watch for it because it will come out without realizing. because so much of society is structured around it. shrugging and going "i dont care" or "i dont know how else to say it" means you are okay with being racist and hurting other people with how much you dont give a shit about them.
Hi!! Thank you for all your posts that help translate/explains things in GSGW!
I've been wondering if the translation "Wish Ticket" is accurate? It has always seemed a little strange to me, since Daydream makes potions, and all the others are still called potions. Is there some meaning being lost there, or is it really called that in Korean?
Thank you so much!
Hi,
Outside of GDCG, 소원권 in everyday life is usually the word for a homemade coupon you give to your friends and/or loved ones. It's supposed to be like a cutesy gift, a 'you get one wish out of me for free!' type of thing. For those I'd say a more accurate translation would be 'Wish Coupon'.
Below is the google img search result for '소원권' which might give you an idea of how it's used in everyday context.
So GDCG is playing on this pre-existing concept, by making this 'wish coupon' an actual magical potion that grants your wishes.
Q. Did BSH enter the darkness? What?
A. They're in the branch office, people are being transformed, on the wall an arch doorway opens and the choir starts walking in -> the quarantine door opens for some reason -> KSE and others run out -> he sees BSH on the ceiling vents lowering a rope towards him
So they're not inside a darkness so to speak
The darkness came to them
Q. I need help with these two parts
A.
1st pic (researcher talking with KSE after he insults JNS)
Researcher: what now.
KSE: Do you perhaps feel unwell?
Researcher: Huh? What business is it of yours if I'm sick or not
KSE: It feels like you will pass away tomorrow.
…
Researcher: what?
Researcher: Wha-what are you talking about. Why are you saying something like…
2nd pic (while the mouse-head from the choir tries out the trombone)
Soundsoundsoundmusicbeauuuuutifulmusicriiiiriiiriiiriiiingingbeautifultouchingit seems to be the details of the fine tuning that makes all the difference in creating good sound from instrumentsssoundsound…
Thoughts
ok I am worried that BSH isn't here
omg… This researcher openly talking about JNS's past and mocking her…
It's so heartbreaking tbh, JNS really does think of herself as having become worthless trash.
KSE so furious on her behalf that he takes revenge in his own way...! Reminds me of when in Sekwang that conductor guy publicly & unfairly reprimanded GYE and KSE let him trip over his foot
KSE now locked in with all those guys who will experience "side effects" 😭
ooo everyone becoming instruments!
yes the choir proper is back! KSE going near insane
omg
ok incredibly interesting to me that BSH yells at him to don't try to save the other guy and give up on him -> KSE does so -> "a strange sense of excitement flashes in BSH's eye" he is so excited to see KSE listen to his words and abandons the other guy!
anyway yay they move to KSE's room through the vents~ ooo so exciting
this arc
KSE: I can make him better…? Huh?
BSH: I can make him worse
Ok this is just me thinking
But I think BSH is excited to see KSE listen to him + also agree to prioritize his own survival rather than take care of others (previously a conflict point between the two of them)
The thing is, from KSE pov he's being consistent, he helps others when he can and doesn't when he can't.
But to BSH it's like, this guy constantly is arguing that he should lower his own chance of survival (even when KSE is lowering it by 0.01%)
So he's super satisfied to see KSE not do that & listen to him instead
Ok I've looked at twt and people seem to have a lot of different theories about BSH's reaction. Interesting interesting...
Ooh people are saying that the choir is the chinese zodiac!
Some thoughts on Baek Saheon, focusing on how he feels about Kim Soleum.
Includes :
BSH in part 1 & 2
BSH in part 3
What BSH wants
Spoilers up to 394.
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BSH in part 1 & 2
1.
During part 1, BSH is constantly intimidated and terrorized by KSE. At the same time, KSE saves his life multiple times.
BSH himself wonders about this. But he concludes that the psychopath is simply deriving some sort of enjoyment out of keeping him alive.
[ep 53]
But…
“......”
Was Kim Soleum really a lunatic?
To be more precise, why did he… save his life?
In truth, he knew. In the gallery, Kim Soleum could have killed or sacrificed him multiple times, but did not do so.
He did mess with him a few times, but at the end of the day…
‘No!’
It must have been for enjoyment. Because it’s more fun to keep him alive, to keep more variability in the situation!
Baek Saheon quickly made his conclusion. He’d never met such a crazy person like this before in his life…
2.
During part 2, BSH constantly is helpful to the Jisan Agent. This is because he helped him once and experienced the feeling of fulfillment that comes from successfully helping out someone.
I wrote about it here : On BSH and the agent from Jisan.
This is usually something you learn as, like, a pre-schooler. Either BSH didn’t have the experience of realizing that it makes you feel happy to (for example) make breakfast for your family or something, or all his experience of feeling good about helping someone was suppressed by his later experiences of prioritizing himself and himself only for the sake of survival. (More might be revealed if we learn more about his relationship with his sister). I think the latter makes sense since to current BSH’s mind everything other than ‘survival’ is just background noise. Jisan Agent case only affected him this much bc it did involve the matter of his own survival.
In any case, BSH learns (or re-learns) it as an adult.
As a result, he keeps being helpful to the Jisan agent, the one who taught him that it can feel nice to save someone.
During hospital arc, KSE tries to extend this to helping others as well. He tries to generalize his lesson of “survival isn’t always a zero-sum game, you can help others without necessarily risking your own survival” to not just helping him but helping others as well. As a result BSH gets thanked by the guy who they helped, and he does experience a “strange feeling”. So there is a potential of BSH becoming more altruistic (as long as it doesn’t risk himself) in general and not just towards the Jisan Agent.
However, as far as we know, this hasn’t happened since the hospital arc, so at the moment this only exists as a potential. (Maybe he helped some other people during the 3 years but so far we don’t know.)
So far, all we know is that BSH’s list of who should survive went from ‘Me’ to ‘Me and Jisan Agent’.
3.
At the end of part 2, we find out that BSH had been suspecting Jisan Agent to be the same person as KSE for quite some time. (At least since before hospital arc)
Explanation on BSH's suspicion
However, he wasn’t ready to accept it.
[Ep 369]
“Are you… actually…”
The agent who becomes unreachable when a certain person goes missing.
The agent who seems to know him strangely well.
Did that…
……
……
“Well, never mind.”
Baek Saheon took his hand off the tank.
He couldn’t get an answer right now anyway.
No, perhaps he himself wasn't ready yet…
BSH in part 3
1.
In part 3, it seems that during the 3 years, BSH has come to accept that KSE is the Jisan Agent. It probably helped that both these personas went missing for 3 years.
In addition, he seemingly has deduced that KSE’s actual personality must be closer to the Jisan Agent - an altruistic, kind person.
[Ep 392]
“......Hah.”
Baek Saheon pressed his hands on his eyelids.
“I knew it, that you're this kind of person…”
After all, even Roe Deer had kept saving his life. So it all makes sense that way.
2.
BSH also seemingly thought about ‘Then why did he keep up a psychopathic front in front of me?’. He seemingly came to a (pretty accurate) conclusion about it.
[Ep 394]
“And you don't need to be so worried about getting caught. If she was the type of person to not be able to control herself and get caught, no matter how we're cooperating with each other, I wouldn't have been honest towards her.”
“......Ah.”
Baek Saheon’s one eye stares alternately at me and Assistant Manager Jin Nasol.
“Because that's what it was like with a guy like me, huh?”
To me, the above bit read as BSH having his suspicions be confirmed, rather than realzing it for the first time. Because it’s not like KSE was talking directly about BSH, when BSH suddenly brings up the subject of himself. I think he already concluded that that’s why KSE kept up that front towards him, but having it be indirectly confirmed by KSE made him get emotional.
It makes sense that BSH would come to this conclusion. BSH himself knows that he’s a selfish, greedy person.
[ep41]
Baek Sa-heon knew that he was a selfish person, obsessed with practical gains.
In 393, he also seemingly feels a ‘twisted amusement’ when talking about how the guys who beat up KSE ends up calling him a lunatic. Presumably because he now knows that that’s KSE doing his thing.
But also, this must have been another confirmation - on against which type of people KSE pretends to be a lunatic.
3.
To summarize.
For a long time, BSH believed that ‘KSE may act like a kind and caring person in front of others, but he shows his true face to me. He’s a psychopath!’.
[ep49]
Go Yeongeun looked at me with a look of pity on her eyes.
“Hm. Since in corporate life, people look down on you for even being too nice, maybe you might like to consider not speaking too highly of others?”
Huh?
No matter how I look at it, it seems like you’re seeing me in an overly good light because of how I saved your life… but thinking of my silver heart, I just bowed my head.
Let’s be nice!
“……Thank you for the advice.”
Baek Saheon looked back and forth between Go Yeongeun and me with a look of disbelief, but then shut his mouth.
Then he stood up from his seat and left without saying goodbye.
But slowly he realizes the truth :
In fact, KSE’s true personality is closer to the kind, caring persona he shows toward others. It was only towards BSH that KSE was putting up a psychopath front.
In addition, even when having a long-term cooperative relationship with BSH as Jisan Agent, KSE never revealed himself to him. He only added it to the list of roles he played. He was never honest towards him.
Why?
Because BSH was an untrustworthy bastard, that’s why.
He was so untrustworthy to KSE that even after they built up a genuinely cooperative relationship, he never let BSH see his true face.
Everyone else knew that KSE is Jisan Agent but BSH. As a result, everyone else knew that the liquified being at the end of part 2 was KSE but BSH.
That’s how little KSE thought of BSH.
Again - BSH himself knows that he’s a selfish and greedy guy.
But still. To realize that this one person in your life who taught you about altruism, who saved your life multiple times (and not bc he was a psychopath like he originally thought lol), who is the one person in your life that you want to keep helping & saving & caring for, thinks of you that way…
Isn’t it only natural that it hurts your feelings?
BSH probably had some time to deal with this realization, but still, when KSE indirectly confirms it in 394, I think it’s understandable that he lashes out.
What BSH wants
Currently, from the text, BSH seemingly has two conflicting wants when it comes to KSE.
1st, He wants to lord it over KSE (the former Roe Deer) a little that he’s now the higher up and KSE is a lowly worker.
This fails at every turn he tries it bc KSE simply does not care. He just will not be intimidated by their difference in position.
And BSH seemingly doesn’t want to actually enforce anything. Like, in 394 when KSE greets him by saying ‘section chief-nim’ BSH is immediately like ‘speak casually’ while using honorifics himself. BSH doesn’t actually want KSE to be sincerely intimidated by his position.
But still he wants to lord it over him a little, you know? So he’ll say things like (ep 393) “If you're in your right mind, shouldn't you be saying '(in honorifics) Do this please, I beg of you' first?” Only for KSE to take the fun out of it by easily complying without any emotion.
2nd, He wants to help KSE (the former Jisan Agent) who is for some reason stuck in a hellhole receiving terrible treatment.
As KSE himself points out, Section Chief BSH keeps going out of his way to help him when KSE himself only asked for one thing. Canceling his bills, saying he’ll smuggle KSE out of there… This is arguably even going beyond the things he did for the Jisan Agent.
Of course, this is all only possible bc BSH now has the power to do it. He says so himself - when KSE is like, don’t overdo it, BSH is like, it’s not like I’m still a supervisor.
BSH now also has the advantage of actually knowing KSE’s situation fully (...well at least more comprehensibly than he did) so he can actually anticipate KSE’s needs and help him without KSE asking for it.
Based on these two things. I’m going further and saying:
3rd, BSH wants KSE to think of him as trustworthy and dependable.
He himself thinks of KSE as special - the only person whose survival he prioritizes besides himself. But KSE obviously did not think much of him despite all their connections. To KSE, BSH was less trustworthy than a bunch of his other colleagues.
But now, BSH knows about all of KSE’s lies. (well not all of them but yk) Moreover, now BSH is in a position where he can actually make a meaningful difference in KSE’s life.
(When KSE gets worried about him getting noticed, BSH is like, I’m a section chief, okay?! There’s no need to worry about me getting noticed! (Also, you’re worrying about me now?))
So, now, BSH wants to say - trust me, depend on me, ask for my help, you can trust me now, I can do much more for you now…
The thing is, BSH is going about all this in not a very sophisticated way.
For one thing, the fact that he has those two conflicting wants which he keeps showing at the same time is pretty funny. Like, stick to one thing and you might get it.
Also, one way for BSH to gain more of KSE’s trust would have been to show altruism to people beyond KSE. Like at least make a try. But when BSH realizes KSE told JNS about the pills, he gets immediately pissed bc it’s unnecessary risk. (Him helping KSE was necessary risk of course) And the way he expresses that feeling - he’s like. I only shared this (potentially lifesaving) info to help YOU, not anyone else! You should have asked for my permission! <- incredibly immature way to express his displeasure
BSH def knows that KSE would like for him to be more altruistic. too. (again, the hospital arc.) He gets incredibly defensive and ‘even a bit desperate’ in 392 when he talks about how KSE looks disappointed in him about not having helped others. (I can’t even tell if KSE actually looked disappointed or BSH was just reading into his expression of concern for the other guys.)
In short, despite how much BSH has changed, in many ways, he hasn’t changed much at all. He’s still the same BSH who was selfish, temperamental and always on the defensive.
It’s just that he now really really cares for KSE and wants KSE to trust and depend on him.
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Anyway, that's my thoughts on BSH.
In conclusion, KSE should maybe consider voicing out loud some of his inner narration about how impressed he is by Section Chief BSH! Wouldn't that make BSH happy!
And also he should give him headpats and chin scritches and maybe hold his hand and have sleepovers and tell him that they can be best of best friends from now on - (gets incinerated by Braun)
Guys i think if kim soleum told baek saheon that he was planning on getting revenge on the researcher and his tormentors, bsh might actually pass out from joy
