Chronically In The Cosmos

☆ She/her ao3: Starpocalypse I’m not gonna be what my daddy wants me to be

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narrator: it was not, in fact, a surprise.

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We don't care.

Marina getting put on a bus or killed off.

We don't care.

Most of us are here to actually enjoy the love stories of the siblings this show is really about.

It's time you accept Marina was a plot device in the lives of the Bridgerton family.

Most people don't and won't even remember her by the time season six rolls around.

Many casual watchers have already forgotten her name and details of her season one storyline.

I only know cause I'm chronically online.

But most viewers are not.

Bridgerton fan admitting they don't care a black woman who was publicly humiliated, ostracized, and almost killed herself all to make way for a white couple is now being fridged to make way for another white couple, nor do they care that the fandom treats her as nothing more than an incubator for a white woman instead of an actual mother

Raise your hand if you're shocked

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The phillip stans on reddit are so annoyinggggg they’ll infest any post that’s not about phillip and make it about phillip and chris fulton and philoise somehow. Meanwhile you can’t mention franchaela on the main bridgerton subs without getting crucified

I swear to god, it's like this fandom crawled out of the Georgian Era itself, they are so annoying

Mind you, P*iloise is literally a betrayal to Eloise's entire character, and a giant "Fuck You" to Marina, and Franchaela is infinitely more interesting and impactful than P*iloise could ever hope to be, but this fandom is too conservative and male-centred to appreciate a WLW ship

Also people making AI "edits" of Theo James as Michael are hilarious because like, you realize that even if they hadn't genderbent him, he still would not be a white man, right? Like you are aware of that?

Maybe the reason they want Michael so bad is because they genuinely think they're going to get a season with two white people as the lead and they're foaming at the mouth at the idea of it—I'm willing to bet that's why they want P*iloise so bad

Anyways, what songs do you guys wanna hear in Franchaela's season? I want Francesca, i wanna be your girlfriend, Good Luck Babe, Super Graphic Ultra Modern Girl, Girls Like Girls, Supercut, Fable, and Sailor Song

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ATLA fans launching misogynistic hate campaigns against Katara, taking her canon trauma, backstory, and characterization and sticking it onto Sokka, willfully misinterpreting the show to bash her, and then harping on and on about how “mean she was to Sokka in the Souther Raiders” has actually done nothing but made me kinda hate Sokka

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Every time I see 'Ryland Grace' I read it as 'Ryan Gosling' and I'm honestly starting to think that was on purpose

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The thing about Project Hail Mary is that it does really good job of subverting expectations, like they plant all the seeds for Grace to have his 'come to Jesus' moment and it just doesn't happen

Like, he says he could never be that brave, and Yao tells him he just needs to find somebody he can be brave for, and then the explosion happens and it kills DuBois, leaving Grace as the only one with enough knowledge on astrophage to go on this mission, and you think "oh, he's terrified, but he'll do it—he's gonna be brave for his students"

But then that just doesn't happen, he says no, he refuses, he's terrified and he doesn't want to go on a guaranteed suicide mission, he has to be restrained and drugged and put on that ship against his will, and it's so different from what so many other protagonists do in this same position, where they don't want to risk their lives but they do it for the greater good, and he doesn't want to either so he doesn't do it

He's literally fighting against it till the very end, literally begging those agents not to send him away, and the thing is, you can't even blame him, because how many people would realistically want to go on Project Hail Mary, knowing it's a long shot, and knowing that no matter how it ends, they're going to die so far from their home, and everyone they've ever known and loved?

It's not until the ending, when he has Rocky—his someone to be brave for—that we see him willingly sacrifice himself, knowing that he'll most likely never go home again, it's not the first time he's called, but it's the first time he answers

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They made Eloise apologize for not loving the patriarchy or being interested in the tradwife lessons she was being forced to attend as punishment for being unmarried, and then degraded a prominent early feminist author for not 'valuing love' enough...

I am going to kill everyone in that writers room and then myself, genuinely what the fuck was that

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So many things to unpack here:

1. Eloise didn’t “apologize for not loving the patriarchy”, she apologized for not taking her sister’s interests seriously. Eloise attended Hyacinth’s finishing lessons—an endeavor that she took very seriously—and spent the entire time cracking jokes and taking none of it seriously. It would be akin to your sister coming to your wedding just to make fun of the decorations and spend the whole time talking about how stupid marriage is.

2. And Violet asked Eloise to attend Hyacinth’s finishing lessons because she had declared herself “on the shelf” and Violet wanted Eloise to still be a productive member of her family; if Eloise was not going to pursue marriage then she could at least relieve Violet of some of her chaperoning duties so she doesn’t have to attend finishing lessons for the fourth child in a row. And mind you, Eloise pure herself in this position by declaring that she was “on the shelf”.

3. A core theme of Eloise’s character is her fear of love, whether it be familial, platonic, or romantic. She specifically fears romantic love because she fears losing herself in those relationships. Eloise has goals and ambitions and dreams—maybe more than any other female character on the show—and she is surrounded by a society and group of men who value none of that. But as she opens herself up to the love of her friends and family in these past three season, she learns that true, unconditional love does not force you to hide, it allows you to act freely and love openly.

All respect to the OP, they are completely entitled to their feelings about Eloise’s arc over the whole show as well as this season specifically. I just wanted present a different, more positive perspective on her behavior.

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1. Eloise did not want to be at those lessons, and Hyacinth was well aware that Eloise had no interest in being there, she even insulted her over them ("You might learn something from the lesson on posture") but nobody cares about how little regard Hyacinth shows her there. And when has Hyacinth ever taken any of Eloise's interests seriously? When has anybody? Nobody cares about what Eloise has to say, or think, yet the only character that ever needs to apologize is Eloise because she doesn't want to engage in a discussion about the lessons on table setting that she was already subjected to. Not to mention, Hyacinth has literally a ton full of women who share these interests because they're the only thing women are allowed to like, whilst Eloise is the only one who actually thinks outside the confines of the ton and is constantly ridiculed for it, I'm so sorry, but I really fail to see how Hyacinth, of all people, is the victim here

2. Violet did not ask Eloise, that would imply Eloise was there willingly, she told Eloise she could either be forced to talk to suitors again, or she could go to the lessons, that's hardly a choice, and it wasn't because she wanted Eloise to be productive, it was because Violet knew Eloise hated those lessons and was hoping it would be enough to force Eloise back on the market, because Violet is a controlling, selfish, manipulative, absolutely awful excuse of a mother, if this was the modern era, Eloise would've gone at least low-contact with her, and I would cheer. And I'm not going to respond to the comment on how Eloise "put herself in this position" because... yikes

3. Eloise is not afraid of familial or platonic love?? I don't know where that is coming from, she is so open with her love towards her friends and family, I genuinely don't know where this interpretation is coming from. And Eloise's aversion to marriage is way deeper than just being 'afraid of losing herself', it genuinely bugs me when people boil it down to that, because Eloise detests that marriage turns women into property of their husbands, who can do whatever they like to their wives and face no consequences, that's not fear of losing herself, that's basic self-preservation. She also detests that marriage is the only thing women are allowed to have, she wants to go to university, she wants to travel the world, she wants to study, and explore more of who she is and what the world has to offer—but the fandom has to boil it down to "she just doesn't understand the power of TRUE LOVE" because if they actually listened to what she said, they couldn't ignore how tone-deaf that argument is. Also, Eloise has been open to the love of her family and friends all these seasons, it is her family and friends that continue to ignore, sideline, and diminish her interests, and beat her into submission until she fits the tradwife mold. I don't understand how Eloise's arc could be read as being about about learning "that true, unconditional love does not force you to hide, it allows you to act freely and love openly" seeing as everything that has happened to Eloise has been... the exact opposite of that. She wasn't allowed to go to political rallies, she isn't allowed to just be a spinster in peace, like 25% of noble women in that era—because her mom's a bitch—she can't focus on writing in her journal—because her mom's a bitch—she can't read in peace—because her mom's a bitch—she can't even choose to remain impartial to the presence of a child—because her mom's a bitch.

I completely understand what you're trying to say, and this is no hate to you, but Eloise's arc cannot be about how 'true love allows you to be yourself' when every aspect of Eloise is being degraded and belittled so that she can realistically become P*ilip's stepford wife. The show and characters do not let Eloise act freely and openly, they actively punish her whenever she tries, so her arc is more "women who are feminists are just stupid, whiny, privileged girls who do not understand love, and childfree women are just selfish, but it's okay, they just need a man to come and fix them and unlock their true maternal side, then they'll give up their desire for education, equal opportunity, and rights, because they'll have a husband and a family, and that's all that any woman needs!!"

(Evident by how they spoke of Mary Wollstonecraft and how Violet said she didn't need to be rebellious because she had TrUe LoVe)

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I’d like to start this off by pointing out that Eloise is not the only person on this show discussing the failing of society and how those failings impact women. So far, EVERY FEMALE LEAD has discussed how they feel trapped by the expectations of society: Daphne tells Anthony without mincing her words that she will lose all value without a husband and that he could never understand that because marriage is and will always be a choice for him, Kate loudly accuses Anthony of treating women like “breeding stock” and tells Eloise that there is no place in society for unmarried women except “at the edge of things”, Penelope refuses to give up Whistledown at Colin’s insistence because it is her only voice as a women and she does not want to be silenced, and Sophie schools Benedict HEAVILY on how his actions are virtually without consequences because he is not left with the end result of affairs, the women are. All of these women, just like Eloise, are aware of their expectations as women, the difference is that they don’t shove those feelings onto the women around them to burden them for choosing what is essentially only form of financial security that they can obtain—marriage.

And I don’t know if I’m completely understanding where this “tradwife propaganda” stance is coming from. I mean, the women of the story do strive for romance and relationships with men (so far), but they do so with men who value their opinions, encourage their pursuits outside of traditional marital “duties”, don’t force children/motherhood on them, and generally view their wives as their equals (with the exception of Simon who sucks because they adapted him the closest to his book counterpart). Simply wanted to be married and a mother is not “tradwife propaganda”, wanting to be part of society when your part or the aristocracy in 1800s England is not “tradwife propaganda”.

As far as the parts of the show that I’ve “rewritten” in my previous reblog: Eloise was told by her mother that she still has to be a functioning member of her family if she is not going to pursue marriage and told her to ACCOMPANY Hyacinth’s finishing lessons. She could have sat in the corner of the room, read a book, and said nothing, but she chose to insert herself in the lessons and make fun of Hyacinth while she was trying to learn something. And Hyacinth fought back because she was upset that her chaperone was trying to actively participate in her interests. And at no point does a single member of her family or peer ask her to apologize for her beliefs, they ask her to apologize for belittling theirs, which she does, CONSTANTLY, while her family does nothing to belittle her beyond her mother trying to suggest that she actually might find a man that she likes if she put in any effort to be social.

I have never and will never understand how this fandom can be so obtuse about Eloise’s character development when she is 22 YEARS OLD. I say this as a 25 years old woman, I don’t know SHIT about what I want. I have opinions, I know how I would want my life to generally go, but I’m also knowledgeable enough to know that feelings change and what I want now could be very different from what I want in 1 year, or 2 years, or 10 years. Eloise has not experienced life, she just spent her short adulthood sitting on the sidelines calling everyone stupid for not wanting what she wants.

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The other women have maybe, a single line about the downsides of being a woman in their society, but they are all actively striving towards marriage and upholding it as the greatest thing a woman can do, whereas Eloise is the only one who is shown to be against the culture's treatment of women, and the only one who repeatedly talks about how marriage is not an accomplishment (which, she's right, it's not) and how she wants to attend university, travel the world, go to political rallies and spend time with like-minded individuals—and saying these women don't shove their feelings on the women around them as a dig against Eloise is always funny to me because it's like... they don't have to? Daphne is literally meant to be the archetype of the perfect regency woman, Kate is a spinster so nobody is bothering her, Penelope loves the system they live under, she just didn't like when it was working against her specifically. All of these women have been bred to want the same thing, so they all act the same, think the same, and strive for the same thing, with the same very limited "education", all of their feelings and thoughts and sentiments are shared by the women around them—Eloise is the only one who doesn't share these sentiments, so of course she's trying to encourage the women around her to think like that, she's completely alone?? You're not going to convince me Eloise is a villain for encouraging women to think outside the very narrow confines of the patriarchy they're living under. Not to mention, Violet, and Daphne do not take any of Eloise's desire to not debut, to be a spinster, to not have children as seriously, so the argument they're not 'forcing' these feelings on the women around them doesn't work because all of these women—SPECIFICALLY Violet—are forcing Eloise to do things she does not want to do. Jesus, at least Eloise only tries to engage in discussion, imagine the fandom backlash if she forced one of her sisters to a political rally against her will?

Literally what desires?? None of these women can travel, get an education, or work, what desires are you talking about?? Daphne is literally the archetype of a perfect Regency woman, she doesn't want to do anything other than marry and become a mother, Kate is only shown to be doing viscountess things, and Penelope ran a gossip magazine that ruined women's lives women for profit??

The "tradwife propaganda" comes from the fact that these women are not autonomous beings—they do not make their own decision, or their own choices, there is a team of writers making these decisions for them, and these writers more often than not have a message they're trying to send. Nobody said wanting to get married or have children is tradwife propaganda, but choosing to make your one proto-feminist character who is shown to not like children be constantly ridiculed and belittled by the people around her for being 'selfish', and then ignoring her very real criticisms of the society around her as a 'childish rebellion' she will outgrow—like her mother who literally states she did not need to be rebellious because she got married—making her apologize to everyone around her because she didn't 'value' their interests enough (which was really because those interests were the only things available to women in that era and she did like not them as they were a physical manifestations of the confines of her society but god forbid we give her even a little grace and understanding) while making nobody apologize to her for never listening to her and forcing her into situations where she is uncomfortable and then laughing at her discomfort, belittling Mary Wollstonecraft's work by saying she 'didn't understand love' (because who needs rights, education, and equal opportunity when you have a loving husband, smh weren't those feminists so stupid??), and ending your proto-feminist character's arc, not with her joining a society for spinsters, but with her marrying, becoming a little stepford wife, step-mother to children when she repeatedly has shown to not want them, and ending it off with "she doesn't care about getting an education, or having equal rights, or autonomy, or being treated as an actual human being, she has love and children now, and that's all a woman needs, so she doesn't need to be a feminist anymore!" And all of that happening at the expesne of a black woman's life? That is tradwife propaganda.

Hello, Violet very clearly tells Eloise it's suitors or lessons because she is trying to force Eloise back on the market?? You're not going to convince me she was being reasonable, when Violet is repeatedly shown to belittle Eloise's passions and interests because she's trying to force Eloise to turn in to Daphne. Eloise doesn't insult Penelope's interests for balls/dances when she finds out Penelope likes them, she literally tells Penelope she doesn't have to hide them. She doesn't mock Daphne's piano playing, she tells her to name it.

"while her family does nothing to belittle her beyond her mother trying to suggest that she actually might find a man that she likes if she put in any effort to be social" Okay yikes, what's with this anger towards unmarried women?? It's not that Eloise might "actually find a man she likes" she does not want to be married, her point is that it does not matter how 'good' a man is, you are still his property once you are married to him, AND she still can't go to university, travel to world, step foot out of her house unchaperoned, fence, receive further education, etc. Also, Eloise WAS putting in effort to be social, she's literally shown that she's happy to be back in society now that she doesn't have to worry about suitors trying to marry her, it is Violet that crushes that by telling Eloise she has to talk to suitors, which just makes Eloise not want to speak.

Also saying her family doesn't belittle her interests when Violet has insulted Eloise's writing in her journal, and her desire to find Whistledown because they take away from her finding a husband?? + Colin's "Do not mind your auntie Eloise, she's too busy reading to care about anything else."

Crazy how you're calling me obtuse when you're literally refusing to acknowledge how the show characterizing their one proto-feminist as selfish, spoiled, bitter, stupid, and setting up an arc that's basically her conforming and dropping her 'childish rebellion' (i.e. a desire for rights) to become a stepford wife and mother is actually really bad.

"Eloise has not experienced life" OH MY GOD THAT IS LITERALLY ELOISE'S POINT!! I'm going to bash my head into a wall, that is literally Eloise's entire point. She's never gone to university, she's never seen the world, she's hardly ever left the ton, she has little-to-no education in general, her life is meant to start and stop in drawing rooms and birthing chambers and she does not like that. She is literally advocating for herself to experience more of life, and more of the world, that is her entire fucking point!! I don't understand how you're going to weaponize Eloise's lack of life experience against her as if that's some kind of moral failing on her part, and not an affect of the very system she is so rigidly against!! How are you going to criticize Eloise for not experiencing life, but then also insult her for not conforming to the structures that prevent her from experiencing life?? And how is the solution to Eloise not experiencing life getting her married off??

Also, I think it's funny that your response to a woman not wanting to be married or have children is that she "hasn't experienced life and doesn't know what she wants" like okay wow, you just said the quiet part out loud. It's not that you don't understand why Bridgerton's portrayal of unmarried/childfree women is bad, you just agree with it.

"She just spent her short adulthood sitting on the sidelines calling everyone stupid for not wanting what she wants" Literally no she did not omfg. But hey, apparently critiquing misogynistic systems that keep women oppressed and dependent on men is wrong, and we shouldn't be encouraging women to think critically and desire more than the very narrow confines that their societies restrict them to!! If you're a childfree woman, you just don't know what you want!! Autonomy, education, and equal opportunity do not matter if you have a husband!!

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They made Eloise apologize for not loving the patriarchy or being interested in the tradwife lessons she was being forced to attend as punishment for being unmarried, and then degraded a prominent early feminist author for not 'valuing love' enough...

I am going to kill everyone in that writers room and then myself, genuinely what the fuck was that

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So many things to unpack here:

1. Eloise didn’t “apologize for not loving the patriarchy”, she apologized for not taking her sister’s interests seriously. Eloise attended Hyacinth’s finishing lessons—an endeavor that she took very seriously—and spent the entire time cracking jokes and taking none of it seriously. It would be akin to your sister coming to your wedding just to make fun of the decorations and spend the whole time talking about how stupid marriage is.

2. And Violet asked Eloise to attend Hyacinth’s finishing lessons because she had declared herself “on the shelf” and Violet wanted Eloise to still be a productive member of her family; if Eloise was not going to pursue marriage then she could at least relieve Violet of some of her chaperoning duties so she doesn’t have to attend finishing lessons for the fourth child in a row. And mind you, Eloise pure herself in this position by declaring that she was “on the shelf”.

3. A core theme of Eloise’s character is her fear of love, whether it be familial, platonic, or romantic. She specifically fears romantic love because she fears losing herself in those relationships. Eloise has goals and ambitions and dreams—maybe more than any other female character on the show—and she is surrounded by a society and group of men who value none of that. But as she opens herself up to the love of her friends and family in these past three season, she learns that true, unconditional love does not force you to hide, it allows you to act freely and love openly.

All respect to the OP, they are completely entitled to their feelings about Eloise’s arc over the whole show as well as this season specifically. I just wanted present a different, more positive perspective on her behavior.

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1. Eloise did not want to be at those lessons, and Hyacinth was well aware that Eloise had no interest in being there, she even insulted her over them ("You might learn something from the lesson on posture") but nobody cares about how little regard Hyacinth shows her there. And when has Hyacinth ever taken any of Eloise's interests seriously? When has anybody? Nobody cares about what Eloise has to say, or think, yet the only character that ever needs to apologize is Eloise because she doesn't want to engage in a discussion about the lessons on table setting that she was already subjected to. Not to mention, Hyacinth has literally a ton full of women who share these interests because they're the only thing women are allowed to like, whilst Eloise is the only one who actually thinks outside the confines of the ton and is constantly ridiculed for it, I'm so sorry, but I really fail to see how Hyacinth, of all people, is the victim here

2. Violet did not ask Eloise, that would imply Eloise was there willingly, she told Eloise she could either be forced to talk to suitors again, or she could go to the lessons, that's hardly a choice, and it wasn't because she wanted Eloise to be productive, it was because Violet knew Eloise hated those lessons and was hoping it would be enough to force Eloise back on the market, because Violet is a controlling, selfish, manipulative, absolutely awful excuse of a mother, if this was the modern era, Eloise would've gone at least low-contact with her, and I would cheer. And I'm not going to respond to the comment on how Eloise "put herself in this position" because... yikes

3. Eloise is not afraid of familial or platonic love?? I don't know where that is coming from, she is so open with her love towards her friends and family, I genuinely don't know where this interpretation is coming from. And Eloise's aversion to marriage is way deeper than just being 'afraid of losing herself', it genuinely bugs me when people boil it down to that, because Eloise detests that marriage turns women into property of their husbands, who can do whatever they like to their wives and face no consequences, that's not fear of losing herself, that's basic self-preservation. She also detests that marriage is the only thing women are allowed to have, she wants to go to university, she wants to travel the world, she wants to study, and explore more of who she is and what the world has to offer—but the fandom has to boil it down to "she just doesn't understand the power of TRUE LOVE" because if they actually listened to what she said, they couldn't ignore how tone-deaf that argument is. Also, Eloise has been open to the love of her family and friends all these seasons, it is her family and friends that continue to ignore, sideline, and diminish her interests, and beat her into submission until she fits the tradwife mold. I don't understand how Eloise's arc could be read as being about about learning "that true, unconditional love does not force you to hide, it allows you to act freely and love openly" seeing as everything that has happened to Eloise has been... the exact opposite of that. She wasn't allowed to go to political rallies, she isn't allowed to just be a spinster in peace, like 25% of noble women in that era—because her mom's a bitch—she can't focus on writing in her journal—because her mom's a bitch—she can't read in peace—because her mom's a bitch—she can't even choose to remain impartial to the presence of a child—because her mom's a bitch.

I completely understand what you're trying to say, and this is no hate to you, but Eloise's arc cannot be about how 'true love allows you to be yourself' when every aspect of Eloise is being degraded and belittled so that she can realistically become P*ilip's stepford wife. The show and characters do not let Eloise act freely and openly, they actively punish her whenever she tries, so her arc is more "women who are feminists are just stupid, whiny, privileged girls who do not understand love, and childfree women are just selfish, but it's okay, they just need a man to come and fix them and unlock their true maternal side, then they'll give up their desire for education, equal opportunity, and rights, because they'll have a husband and a family, and that's all that any woman needs!!"

(Evident by how they spoke of Mary Wollstonecraft and how Violet said she didn't need to be rebellious because she had TrUe LoVe)

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Eloise and Benedict's dynamic is both so important and so, so sad to me because like, here are two siblings, both second-born, both have great passion, and both want something greater than the conventional life their society is offering them, they are the only two people that truly seem to understand each other, and so they really only have each other to confide in

But the thing is that Benedict is ultimately allowed to have what he wants, he gets to study art, he gets to be a rake, and explore his sexuality, he gets to marry below his station, and he gets to explore who he is, and what he wants, and nobody stops him

And then you have Eloise, who gets... none of that

While the show allows Benedict to explore who he is outside of the confines of the ton, the show—and the fandom—punishes Eloise anytime she tries to do anything that is not expected of her

She enjoys writing? Violet belittles her interests and the show absolutely refuses to allow her to pursue this

She attends political rallies? She is outed to the ton, and her entire political plotline is dropped

She falls in love with a working class man, who is literally the only person in the show who actually cares to hear what she thinks? Penelope sabotages that relationship to stop Eloise from finding out her Whistledown secret

Eloise doesn't want to get married? Violet is going to punish her for it, and when Eloise is upset about it, the show is going to demonize her, and make her apologize for not loving the tradwife lessons being forced on her

Eloise wants to be a spinster? Violet is going to punish her, and the show is going to make it seem as though what Eloise wants is ridiculous, isolating, and lonely, as if there weren't societies for spinsters as 25% of noble women in that era remained unmarried

The show lets Benedict be different, it lets Benedict explore who he is, and it rewards his unconventionality

But Eloise? She is insulted, and belittled, and constantly beaten down by everyone around her, so that when becomes a man's live-in bangmaid and stepmother to children she never wanted, the audience sees it as plausible because she's now a shell of the woman she once was

This isn't character development, this is literally a twisted alt-right fantasy of leftist/childfree women being 'fixed' by a man and conforming to societal norms, becoming tradwives because their feminism and independence was really just a byproduct of how lonely they really were or some bullshit like that

The fact that the show used essentially the same archetype for two of its main characters, but the man is rewarded for the very same traits that his female counterpart is consistently punished and humiliated by the narrative for displaying is very telling of the writers mentality, and how they view feminist/childfree women

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sending an anonymous compliment because you absolutely ate that other anon UP on that eloise post.

-an anti show!philoise who does NOT ship theloise

Omg, thank you anon!!

Call me Anthony Bridgerton, the way I eat like a man starved 🙂‍↕️

I will fully admit that I do have a soft spot for Theloise—if for no other reason than because Theo is the one person who actually listened to Eloise and brought her into a community of activists and like-minded individuals—but I already knew they wouldn't be canon and I'd be fine with it, I just don't want to see Eloise lose her spark and her passion and turn into a docile housewife and stepmother like the patriarchy wants her to, and certainly not for that neglectful lying rapist

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Its wild that Lady Whistledown provides so much conflict for the first two seasons and then in season 3 its some girlboss thing. They tried to present it as a serious business and not just regency tmz.

It's literally equivalent to those 2000s magazines that hyperanalyzed women's bodies/outfits/relationships/emotions and picked apart every little detail about them for profit

But I guess it's girlboss because this time it's a woman weaponizing the patriarchy against other women?

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i’m ngl i lowkey get your stuff about fandom not liking sirius/fanon sirius sucking. i hate fanon sirius sooo much. (and fanon remus, too.) wolfstar used to be a ship i LOVED and then i left the fandom and came back and suddenly it’s witty alpha remus x super dramatic tiny sirius. i don’t care if sirius is fem, i kinda like it tbh, for me it’s the fact that the fandom turns him into a misogynistic stereotype of a woman every time they make him fem. it feels like the fandom reaaaally wants wolfstar to be a stereotypical toxic straight couple but people will call you homophobic for pointing that out. it’s so annoying.

I love, love, love Wolfstar so, so bad like it's not even funny, but I remember about two-ish years ago I genuinely went through a period where I hated it because I love Sirius so bad and it icked me out to see people write about his abuse and then create all these headcanons of Remus constantly insulting and degrading him, and just generally being very angry all the time, and like huh?? You can't talk about how bad you feel for Sirius for experiencing abuse and then gleefully put him in a relationship that you're going to make emotionally/verbally abusive, that's so odd

And characterizing Remus as this angry, alpha dude isn't just wrong, it's completely antithetical to his character—werewolves are canonically discriminated against and seen as dangerous, volatile, and a hazard, so to take Remus who is so sweet, caring, reserved, and—I say this with love—kinda spineless and a pushover, and then just twist him into the very stereotype that was used to oppress him is so...

And you're not homophobic for saying they're trying to make them a toxic straight couple, you're actually 100% right, and it's quite frankly super homophobic to push really toxic and rigid heteronormative gender roles on a queer ship

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You think Joker ever took the piss out of Dick Grayson because of his first name every chance he got?

I think 'take the piss out of' is one of the jokes he'd use to take the piss out of Dick

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Please just admit your problems with eloise’s story are because you want her to be with theo and move on. You don’t actually give a shit about her character assassination you’re just mad she’s not ending up with paper boy. Fake ass feminist.

This is actually so funny to me since it just proves how dead media literacy and critical thinking is amongst Eloise haters/Pro-P*ilip people (which, tbh, those terms are interchangeable)

Because the implication here is that anon saw my posts talking about how fucked up it is they're going to fridge a black woman for a mediocre relationship, how mad it makes me that the fandom dehumanizes Marina and talks about her like she's an incubator instead of Oliver and Amanda's mother, and my posts about the implications of the writers constantly punishing, mocking, and belittling their one protofeminist and childfree character and characterizing her as selfish, self-centred, and childish, AND my post about how fucked it is they made the protofeminist apologize for not loving the patriarchal activities that were forced on her and then proceeded to degrade the literal mother of feminism and her work by saying she didn't 'value sufficiently love' as if that has anything to do with wanting rights and equal opportunity for women, and anon decided that I was just bullshitting and am actually just a Theloise who's mad that her ship won't be endgame, and not someone who's actually deeply frustrated with the overt misogyny the show is exhibiting

Mind you, I didn't even so much as mention Theo in any of those posts, but I guess anon just saw 'I don't like that Eloise is being treated like shit' and assumed that it had to be an angry Theloise since P*iloises despise Eloise, want to see her be degraded and treated like shit, and would never criticize misogyny since they're so disgustingly misogynistic themselves

But nahh, I'm just a bitter Theloise and a fake feminist because I... *checks notes* I actually don't know? I don't understand how critiquing the show's disrespect towards (proto)feminism makes me a fake feminist? I'm not even being funny rn, I'm so deadass when I say that that comment confuses me so bad

P.S. You sending anonymous hate to a random because you're too much of a pussy to say it with your chest and face any potential repercussions is very Penelope of you, at least we know the Bridgerton writers would love your bitch ass ;)

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There's a lot of reasons I dread Eloise's seasons that have to do with systemic issues both in and out of the Bridgeton universe, but one of the side reasons is that I know the show will allow Violet to gloat about how she was right that Eloise just needed a man to 'fix' her rebellion and she'll never face any consequences for being a pushy, insensitive, self-absorbed, genuinely awful mother to Eloise, and I simply don't want to give her the satisfaction of that

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They made Eloise apologize for not loving the patriarchy or being interested in the tradwife lessons she was being forced to attend as punishment for being unmarried, and then degraded a prominent early feminist author for not 'valuing love' enough...

I am going to kill everyone in that writers room and then myself, genuinely what the fuck was that