sticking to martha til the world collapses /not necessarily propaganda i just want to rant because what do you mean people are still trying to rationalize their obvious indifference towards her as a character (because that's where it always starts, it never sounds like "personal preference" as they claim it to be) all for the sake of either a nostalgia kick or ship wars? in the big year of 2026??? of course this isn't generalizing but whenever i see people talk about why they "prefer" other companions over martha, it always comes off the same way and they never really delve deep into what they dislike about either her writing or characterization (because this is doctor who, somebody's always going to fuck someone up), and whenever this happens they never talk about martha at all.
to firmly add: martha being a physician doesn't make her any less relatable to the "average viewers." i get that people get favorite characters because they see themselves in them but i don't get this insistent discussion of class when it comes to rtd1. they have other struggles and aspects of their life that dictate who they are as characters of their own narrative so before anyone thinks about roasting me on a spit, these same people who's indifferent to martha should stop reducing rose as the working class 19 year old and reducing donna as the doctor's sidekick because she's from an older age group compared to the other two. these women are more than that and more than the doctor's companion or love interest, bffr.
i mean, given how many popular and beloved white (usually) male billionaire characters there are out there these days, it's pretty patently ridiculous to seriously argue that the reason fans "don't connect" to martha is because she's middle class. also, i know you said this isn't propaganda exactly, but i hope you're okay with me calling it that anyway, because as propaganda goes, i think this is pretty good!
Skyler White (Breaking Bad) vs. Martha Jones (Doctor Who)
Skyler White
Martha Jones
Voting ended on7h
Propaganda below the cut:
Skyler White:
she ‘got in the way’ of Walt doing murders, cooking, meth, and didn’t respect he was doing all these crimes and emotionally and physically abusing her for the ‘good of the family’. Essentially called her an evil bitch for not wanting to be exposed to danger and thinking her husband is a bad person because he couldn’t swallow his pride and take the cushy job his successful friend offered in order to pay for his cancer treatment and instead decided to cook meth and kill people. Oh and she cheated with an old flame (again because of Walt’s crime and abuse) but that’s worse I guess.
She’s literally just a normal woman who reacts to things the way a normal woman would and people lost their fucking minds about it. Hell she even helped Walt launder the money with a car wash like she set that shit all up herself and he and the fans still hated her.
obvious choice but skyler is ROUTINELY called the worst character in breaking bad and has been since like 2008. any conflict in the show and there will be people insisting she has some fault just because she "is annoying". also an eternal victim of "i don't like her because she reminds me of my mom"
breaking bad is the most fun show ever if you learn to love skyler white. her immediate suspicion of walter and constant attempts to support her family both with and against him are vindicating. she's smart, much more business savvy than him and a better liar. constantly looked down upon in-universe but explicitly uses it to her advantage at every step. she is awesome
Walter white is the worst human being in the entire show and everyone was like “she’s awful for trying to get him to stop manufacturing drugs.” Let’s not even mention the fact that he almost rapes her in the first season while she’s like eight months pregnant and no one ever talks about it ever.
She’s actually pretty cool and has the best line that no one ever quotes: “someone has to protect this family from the man who protects this family.”
She's one of THE poster children for fandom misogyny victims. People reduced her to being Walt's bitch wife as if she wasn't a) 100% in the right in every argument against him b) better at doing crime than him to an extent that's straight up hysterically funny.
As I said, she's actually really really good at doing crime and there's something inherently very entertaining about watching this completely normal housewife/office worker turning out to be really good at money laundering and negotiating with criminals and coming up with cover stories. She has a failed writing career that she appears to be using coming up with cover stories for her husband's meth dealing as an outlet for, which is also really funny. She literally writes a script for him to use. There's also a really hilarious scene where the show cuts to Skyler on the wikipedia page for "money laundering" that made me laugh really hard. We love a wikipedia warrior.
The fandom blames her for all the problems that her husband Walter faces and calls her the worst character despite there being literal nazis and cartel members in the show. They also call her a slut, bitch, etc, even though the things she's done are not even comparable to the horrific actions that the male characters do.
She is smart as hell and strong asf for putting up with Walter's bullshit. Amazing at thinking on her feet. Isn't given enough credit for her intelligence and strength
Famously called a bitch by many brba fans for simply not being cool with her husband cooking meth and killing people
Where to even start… According to fandom, cheating on the husband who refuses to divorce you is magnitudes worse than murder and running a drug empire. Every criticism of Skyler I see boils down to the "nagging housewife" trope. She's not perfectly subservient so she must be evil and terrible. And yet Walt is cool and suave… okayyyyy…
Skyler is literally a human being who reacts perfectly rationally to the situation she finds herself unwillingly facing. That old man should have died in the car wash.
Maybe the most famous victim of fandom misogyny ever. Fandom acts like she was worse than Walt because she didn't want him to make meth.
Skyler wanted what was best for her family. Unlike Walt, she truly broke bad for her family. She made tough choices, not always good ones, but she was an abuse victim in a very unusual position. She is also great at lying and schemes.
goddamn near every single action she took in the show was a pretty reasonable reaction to her husband and his meth empire bullshit (including the affair because he literally refused to sign divorce papers before that started). and also she’s literally raped on screen by her husband who a bunch of bb fans actively idolize
Skyler White has to be the most unjustifiable hated female character. Even some of the actors are confused why she was considered the bitch.
how can Skyler White not win this. or at least come close. she's arguably the prime example in recent widely-popular culture what with the absurd degree she was demonised for acting in an entirely rational manner considering she was an abuse victim and for most of the series blatantly a hostage? I mean we can't possibly illuminate the extent of the (ongoing ad hanc diem) Skyler White misogyny but there are multitudinous video essays on the subject it's a riduculously widespread and rampant phenomenon. but that's not to minimise any of the other instances and Skyler ought to do well enough anyway given the vastness of her situation so. just our thoughts on the subject we'll be voting for Skyler since she's such a ridiculously prime example of misogyny
Skylar White doesn't need propaganda because she is famously one of the most hated female characters on TV, like, ever but wow the misogyny the character STILL faces is absolutely atrocious, to this day ppl call her a bitch for not wanting her (abusive!!) husband to become a drug lord who kills ppl.
Martha Jones:
She was the first main Black companion on Doctor Who…I'll just talk about the fandom racism/misogyny itself and not the racism/misogyny in the show itself. She was subject to overt and subtle misogynoir from the fandom, especially since she came after white fan-favorite companion Rose Tyler. People disliked her for having a crush on the Doctor, which Rose also had, and was unfavorably compared to Rose. There's a lot more, but I don't want to write a whole essay.
She's a medical student, and incredibly smart and capable! In her stories, she's incredibly compassionate to those around her, and offers emotional as well as medical assistance. Also, she has incredible style!
Martha gets absolutely shafted by the fandom, most of whom cannot seem to forgive her for not being Rose Tyler. That she dares to leave the Doctor and live her own life is apparently an act more evil than any the Daleks could dream of. A lot of fans insist that Martha's race has nothing to do with why they dislike her. A lot of fans are fucking liars.
Martha is competent and intelligent and screams way less than usual for a companion so she is clearly excellent.
I think fandoms been very racist and misogynistic towards her, relagating her as some spineless woman always pining after the doctor instead of a badass MD who saved the day many times
Not only misogyny but racism too. Martha is an incredibly smart and brave character who doesn’t get half the credit that the Doctor’s other (WHITE) companions get. She gets dogged on by the fandom for a lot of reasons that are overlooked or forgiven when Rose Tyler does a lot of the same things.
She was the only RTD companion who wasn’t given superpowers in order to save the day. Girl saved the world with nothing but gumption and a good pair of walking boots.
I still see hate fics for her in the big year of 2026 please god she's not getting in the way of your ship she walked away from that bum ass alien 15 years ago
So many fans consider Martha a "rebound" companion for 10 and say that she only cares about impressing him or something. Completely ignoring the fact that she was charmed into coming with him! Just like everybody else who travels with the Doctor. She also canonically SAVED THE WORLD by giving the people something to believe in and got to leave on her own accord without something terrible happening to her. She's also shown to be incredibly smart and talented, quickly adapting to situations even if she might be freaked out at first. And after she leaves she gets to work with UNIT (and im pretty sure she also appears in the Torchwood spin-off series) and eventually she ends up with someone who understands what she's been through. Martha is SO MUCH MORE than just a rebound companion or a girl obsessed with the Doctor. Sheis (at the time of meeting her) being trained to be a full on doctor who has incredible will power and a clear desire to help others.
I was part of the crowd who hated her for "getting between" my ship and "replacing" Rose. I even avoided rewatching the season she was in when i rewatched most everything else. (Just to be clear i wasn't part of the fandom during this time and i didn't spread the hate). After seeing her on this blog i started thinking back and reflecting on my opinion of her and concluded that i was being super misogynistic and racist. I decided to rewatch her season and even just a few episodes in i could tell how amazing Martha is. She's everything you could want in a companion, she's smart, capable, compassionate, brave, she balances The Doctor's personality really well. In fact i found myself more annoyed with The Doctor for how shittily he treated Martha, and the writers for not handling the whole thing better. All this to say: Martha get behind me i will defend you with my life and the lives of everyone who has ever hated her
reminder that the books themselves also suck ass actually. there's an entire plotline endorsing slavery. the one character who advocates to end slavery is bullied and made fun of. the one slave who doesnt like being enslaved is bullied and treated as an outcast. the bankers are the picture of racist stereotypes of jewish people. the one asian character is named fckn Cho Chang. the worldbuilding SUCKS. fuck harry potter and fuck rowling. stop giving her your money.
This is all true, but we need to talk about how to explain JK Rowling to normies who aren't in any of the circles where JK Rowling's awful choices are discussed regularly. How do you talk to someone who, if you mention Harry Potter, says, "Oh, I really liked those books" or "Oh, I really liked those movies?" and get them to understand what a shitstain she is without seeming to just be calling THEM names for saying they liked something?
Yes, she mocks rape victims. She threatens litigation against the mildest criticism against her. She has created an LGB group to make it so very clear that trans people are not welcome where she gives money. She is the funding behind Scotland saying trans women aren't legally women. The list goes on.
But. I promise you, 99% of the people around you don't know she's done any of this because they aren't following her social media or stories about her. To them, she is just the author of those fun wizard books. You gotta talk about how she's SO WEIRD and ISN'T IT SAD.
You need to tell the normies how she uses the funds from all her payout agreements for ALL Harry Potter licensing, including the re-release of these movies.
"It's so fucking weird. It's so fucking off-putting. It's so fucking sad." Say that over and over. Don't try to tie it into larger ideas. This is not how people will listen. "Isn't it just fucking sad she has all this money that could go to literacy or scholarships, and she's using it to attack people who are just living their lives? What a weird fucking choice."
We need to out-Morbius Morbius in terms of this tanking, and the way you do that is talk to normies about how fucking WEIRD and RUDE she is. How ODD that the second Fantastic Beasts movie gave a "actually, fascism isn't too bad" vibe all the way through and especially at the end. How she has complained that the child actors from those movies particularly don't agree with her views on trans people and that she's publicly said that's why she wanted a new show.
What a WEIRD thing to say about child actors you worked with over a decade ago. It's so WEIRD she would care that those child actors have different opinions than her. It's really SAD she apparently has no hobbies except posting on social media about how she hates trans people. A beloved author who could be using her name to raise money for animal rescues and homeless people and all sorts of really great causes that could improve people's lives, and she's out here doing THIS? It just bums me out. I just can't support someone who uses their money to harass and harm other people like this. I don't know WHY she acts like this or WHY she's chosen to make it her whole personality, but it just makes it really hard for me to want to support any Harry Potter stuff, even when I loved it so much. Knowing any money made from that franchise goes into her pocket to just pour out onto orgs and laws that tell adults they can't just live their lives and be left alone is WEIRD.
And then say what you're gonna be doing instead. You know, I'm going to go and find some new fantasy books at the library. I'm going to boardgame day down at the game store. I'm going to a stitching group. I'm going to host a 1980s fantasy fest at my place; do you have any favorites you recommend? We should have a film fest where we watch all the movies that scared the shit out of us as kids.
If the normie goes, "Well, I'm going anyway," say, "Okay," and change the subject. If they try to justify because you clearly aren't into their decision, don't let them. "Hey, do whatever you want. I'll be [doing whatever you said you'd be doing." And then change the subject again. You don't have to threaten to cut someone off or yell at them or say they're terrible. They have to make the decision on their own, but you can make your point in a way that hopefully resonates and also refuse to back down but also refuse to absolve them.
I do think Martha was too powerful to hang with the dr imagine being in his shoes and getting upstaged as protector of the universe by a fucking pre med student. Those buckets barely have time to breathe and she STILL ran laps around his ass
Edit buckets was supposed to be fuckers but the typo entertains me
Kate saying she had the idea to hire people who used to travel w the doctor whike unit is rebuilding as if martha jones didn't start qorking there 15 years previosuly
I'll never forget that, in the Shakespeare Code, when Martha says "am I going to be safe? I'm not exactly white," RTD wrote for the doctor to say "just walk around like you own the place, it works for me."
My brother in christ you are a white man. You DO own the place
*edit* the episode was actually written by Gareth Roberts who is HORRIFICALLY transphobic but I still imagine rtd jizzed when he read that line so my point still stands
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