the hayffie x haydove thing is very ridiculous to me because im a normal person and can appreciate both canon and non-canon things without making a big deal out of it
but im also very unwell mentally so now im also shipping effie x lenore dove and i think is the best idea i ever had
i love how in the hunger games (first book) that katniss is literally in the arena and she is still mrs mellarks biggest hater, like bro your life is in danger and you’re calling her a witch n shit
wanna know what? since suzanne collins wrote a snow origin story she should also write a coin origin story
how different or how similar she and snow are? was coin always >like that< or she was made into that way? how are her views on the world? how was like growing up in district 13? how she became the president?
i never imagined there was something to say about snow, but she did it anyway, so i could only speculate the wonders she could do in a coin centered prequel
I WATCHED THE BALAD OF SONGBIRDS AND SNAKES AND I HAVE THINGS TO SAY
i loved the adaptation btw, of course its the hunger games franchise that we're talking about here
anyway, spoilers ahead
we dont see him making the infamous cabbage soup, but we do see the snows apartment falling apart
tigris is still everything to me, they pulled her lines straight from the books — unfortunately we don't see much of her, but hunter schafer slayed every time she was on screen
i was very confused abou the plinth prize being a thing since the beggining, but i think it made sense... idk a lot happened in the movie after coryo rescued sejanus from the arena so i dont know if they had the time
i was also very confused that the thing about the academy students mentoring the tributes was unknown until that moment in the movie, again, i think they did this to expose the most things at once
lucy gray singing after her reaping was everything to me
oh, and the snake on mayfair's back too, very girlboss of her
the scene in the zoo, when he's parading her around is a copy of the book, i liked it very much
unfortunately coryo and lucy gray barely interacted, not like they did in the book, but the scenes they had before she went into the arena were very good
i though they were going to skip arachne's death, but they didn't — they skipped her funeral, though, but thats fine
they did the scene with clemensia and the snakes but she dissappeared right after, we never got to see her skin changing to scales which i think was a miss
the explosion didn't kill as many of the mentors as it did in the book, not that they showed anyway, the only name mentioned was felix ravinstill
i loved that we got to see more of the arena than in the books
the scene where coryo rescues sejanus is the exact same and i wasn't expecting less
lucy gray doesnt kill wovey :D
she does kill dill D:
i kind of hate the fact that coryo gave her the compact with the poison inside already, it just... idk it didnt had the same impact
i missed that they cut lucky interviewing the mentors as their tributes got killed, i would've liked to se lysistrata talking about jessup and humanizing him for the capitol
the snakes scene is awesome, a lot more people die in this — including reaper, which i think was a better ending for him than the one he got in the book, he embraced his death and it was quite beautiful
lucy gray singing to the snakes was AMAZING, everything that i ever wanted
i kinda loved how coryo gave the handkerchief with her scent to the snakes, it was a very deliberate choice and not like the book that he "did without thinking straight"
viola davis as dr. gaul was PERFECT, everytime she stole everyone's moment, she's just as unhinged as she is in the book, we dont see as much, but its implied
i wished they showed her expetiments with the avoxes to get the point across on how she is, but thats fine
casca highbottom was also a little shit, love it
coryo and sejanus meeting on the train to go to twelve caught me off guard, but i like it
rachel sang a lot in the movie and i was there for it, it was perfect everytime
their reunion was sweet, i'll admit it
i wished they've show it where the covey lived in the seam, but we cut straight to where he meets her in the meadow
i loved their scene in the lake and lucy gray singing "lucy gray" (lol) but i wished she'd sing the valley song to maude ivory instead
i also loved that they made movie coryo be the only one — technically, she most likely sang it to the covey, but anyway — who heard her sing the hanging three since you know, in 65 years he'll be shitting his pants with katniss
the hanging of sejanus was so heartbreaking, him crying out for his Ma... i cried, i knew i was going to cry and i did it anyway
seeing lucy gray realize coryo also killed sejanus was pure gold, i loved seeing her visibly tensed up and starting to see him with an entire different lenses
the whole ending in the woods was just like the books, i think it made a little less ambiguous about lucy gray's end, but i liked it
(and also i always believed she lived anyway)
maybe im reading waaaay too much into tigris, but her calling snow by "coriolanus" instead of "coryo" made me think she's starting to see the man he'd become — and this man is nothing like the little cousin she loved
"snow lands on top" is the last line of the movie, perfection, if you asked me
the only thing that i didn't like was that i dont know if they made coryo as unhinged as he is in the books, because we're not in his head and reading his line of thought, in the movie he does seem very genuine and it does seem like he really likes and cares about sejanus and lucy gray — we don't see him comparing her to an object or the excuses he gives himself to like her because she's not "really district" therefore not a second class citizen — until the very end when she finds out about the whole sejanus-being-hanged-because-of-him thing
idk his breakdown kinda feels rushed in the end since we dont have the context of what was going on in his mind beforehand and i think people who dont read the book would think it came out of nowhere
aside from this, i loved the movie and im totally going to see it again as soon as i can lol
EDIT: i just fucking remembered that they dont say anywhere that the 10th Games were erased ????? why ????? is the whole point !!!! oh i would've love to hear him say "goodbye lucy gray, we hardly knew you" i would've gone insane
and also, she doesn't say "the show is not over until the mockingjay sings", and it makes me a little annoyed — like, idk where they couldve put this line, but i whish they did
if suzanne were to write more about the hunger games series i ask nothing more but a little short story about tigris and snow's relationship falling apart
she loved him so much, her "baby cousin", she did so many things so he could live and in the end she smiled at the thought of his death
i have a theory it probably started when he became a gamemakers and began with all of the changes so the games would be more exciting to watch since tigris was always against the games, but i want suzanne's views on this so much!
enough time has passed since i wrote this, so i have to clarify something... i do not need a little short story about Tigris
I NEED A FUCKING BOOK, A FULL 500+ PAGES BOOK A WHOLE FUCKING STORY ABOUT HER LIFE BOOK
I NEED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT HER
about her childhood, her losing all of the adults around her and becoming the head of the house (because, really, the grandma'am is completely useless), i need to know her views on the Dark Days, on the Games, on Coryo, on the Capitol, about everything she had to do to survive when they were struggling
i NEED to know about her fallout with her cousin, what lead her to become a stylist for the Games (that she disliked very vocally in tbosas) and later the person she is in mockingjay
what lead her to hate her Coryo so much? was she ever capable of truly hating him? did she ever learned what happened while Snow was in District 12, about what truly happened to Sejanus, to Lucy Gray? I NEED TO KNOW!!!!!!!!!
re-reading ballad for the movie (as if i do not have a thousand assignments due this end of semester lol) and let me tell you that lucy motherfucking gray knew how to play the games was insane
play as in the same way peeta played the games, if you know what im saying
that girl was a performer, and she was performing since the reaping, maybe not intentional *then* but later? in the zoo cage in the capitol?? oh, my girl was playing the popularity game and she was fucking winning it
she couldn't know about the capitol's plan to make the games more entertaining, and she also couldn't be thinking (in the very beginning, i mean) that it would be possible to get out of there alive, but she wasn't going to allow herself to die as a nobody
if the capitol was going to kill her, they better remember her name
okay I've been seeing people talk about how Snow got scared sh*tless when he heard Katniss sing the Hanging Tree in Mockingjay, which is true, but I haven't heard enough about how furious and terrified he must have been when he first heard Katniss sing to Rue, which is the same song Lucy Gray sang to Maude Ivory at the lake.
I forget if the Hanging Tree or the Meadow song was introduced first in TBOSAS, but that's the first song Snow heard. The first song of Lucy Gray's that Katniss somehow knew 64 years later. And she's not just humming it. She's singing it to Rue as she dies before covering her body in flowers.
And he must have known, in his bones, that Katniss was going to be the end of him. God, I love how the prequel explained why Snow was so blindsided and fixated with her instead of Coin.
Like? We know that Katniss and Lucy Gray are different people. They have different personalities and families. But to Snow, it really must have seemed like Lucy Gray came back to haunt him, and it started with Katniss singing Rue to sleep.
i dont remember if she sing to him or not, but lucy gray was with jessup until he died, she closed his eyes, said her goodbyes and tried to give him a little bit of dignity
just like katniss did to rue
snow 100% saw katniss as lucy gray, coming back from the dead to taunt him and that's only one more reason for him to be fixated in her and want her dead
bringing my thread here in honor of the ballad of songbirds and snakes trailer today because the "lucy gray parallels katniss" people are out there and they are wrong, lucy gray baird is peeta mellark and sejanus plinth is katniss everdeen and i will die on this hunger games hill
i have a very unpopular opinion i guess but after reading abosas snow became my favorite character
i could write an essay about this but to summarize: i am fascinated about how every step he took it made him the man we got to know in the original trilogy and how i wholeheartedly believe that everything that happened with sejanus and lucy gray haunted him through all his life and also shaped him into this man
if suzanne were to write more about the hunger games series i ask nothing more but a little short story about tigris and snow's relationship falling apart
she loved him so much, her "baby cousin", she did so many things so he could live and in the end she smiled at the thought of his death
i have a theory it probably started when he became a gamemakers and began with all of the changes so the games would be more exciting to watch since tigris was always against the games, but i want suzanne's views on this so much!
snow wanting the world to forget lucy gray and believing everyone did until katniss appeared singing "the hanging tree" is just so perfect to me
because, yeah, they might have forgotten her name, but her memory lives and, in a way, she came back to destroy him, just like he thought she was going to do in the lakehouse
Ok @chocoarts , I'm ready to go on a ramble! Thanks so much for answering my request! I hope my ramble does your art justice!
So! Steve and Robin are destined to work together, no matter how they meet or what they do. I know that most folks on the internet think that Robin wouldn't be great with little kids, while Steve would be the master. However! I personally like the idea that they're /both/ great with kids! I'm not usually one for no-Upside-down aus, but I can't really think of another way that this would work, so.
I'll bet that Steve and Robin met while volunteering at the Hawkins Daycare center. They bond over a love of kids and hatred for the people in charge. Y'see, Hawkins kinda reminds me of the area I grew up in a little bit, and something that's happened, both in my community and the town where my mom works, is that daycares and pre-schools start out as genuine nonprofits, existing for the sake of the community. But over time, they become super exclusive, expensive, and mildly corrupt. I imagine that if Hawkins had a daycare center, that's what would happen.
*oh, by the way, I have nothing against day care centers or all you folks who run them in a general sense. I know how difficult it is to take care of little kids to an extent, and I respect you all for what you do. It's just the ones in my community that I know of that are like that.*
Anyway...
So Steve and Robin see this and decide, hey, Steve's parents may be assholes, but they haven't cut him off yet, so why don't they use that money to open their own daycare center? They would call it Bat-man and Robin's Junior Bat-cave, because Steve plays baseball in this au. Also because of this meme:
By the way, they decided to add hyphens to the DC related parts of the name to escape a potential lawsuit. That's my logic, and I'm sticking to it. Cool? Cool.
So Steve and Robin open their daycare, and they keep their fees as inexpensive as they possibly can without it being detrimental to the business. One of their first customers is a single mom by the name of Claudia Henderson.
It takes a minute for Dustin to warm up to Steve and Robin, because even as a 3-year-old, people give him a hard time about his disease, cleidocranial dysplasia (CCD), which he worked really hard to learn how to pronounce.
Steve and Robin don't treat him any differently. The only acknowledgement they make of his CCD is when they have to follow his daily medical needs, which I assume exist, but I have no idea what they'd be. When this sinks in, he warms right up to them. His favorite thing to do is play spies with the toy walkie-talkie set that Steve got especially for him. He gets bad dreams sometimes about his dad leaving, but Steve is always right there when he wakes up with a sci-fi picture book or Star Wars stuffies to help him feel better.
The next kid to show up is Max Mayfield. She's a sassy little thing. And in this au, N*il dies in a car crash or something, and Billy's mom gets custody of Billy, because he deserves good things, dammit, but Susan doesn't have the money to move her and Max back to Cali. The Junior Batcave is affordable for her. It takes Max a hot second to warm up to Steve, because of N*il, but Robin helps her feel safe, and Steve never pushes her boundaries. That is what gets her to warm up to him. Max likes playing spies with Dustin, but her favorite thing to do is use cardboard as ramps and play with those tiny skateboard toys.
Jane Eleanor "El" Hopper shows up after Hopper adopts her and gets her out of the foster system. She's pretty quiet and timid, but she's got good judgement for a 3-year-old. She warms up to Steve and Robin pretty quick. She calls them Auntie Robin and Mom-Steve. She likes any kind of game, as long as she's with her best friend Max. But her favorite thing to do at daycare is play with Steve's hair. One day, she brings all sorts of clips and ribbons from home. El gets a little sad, because Robin gently tells her, "if it touches your hair, you don't share." Steve immediately goes out to the store to get some new hair supplies, and then El just goes ham on his hair. When she's done, she says that "Mom-Steve is the prettiest ever!" Hearts melt, and there are tears.
When Will shows up, his family is fresh out of a divorce, so he's really quiet and sensitive. He knows that he's welcome to play with Dustin, Max, and El, but he's just too shy. Luckily for him, Mike starts attending at around the same time. They bond over Star Wars with Dustin. And Will just has the best ideas for games if make-believe! When Will leads, Max and El get to be the knights, and Mike is the one who needs saving. Will gets attached to Steve and Robin when they agree to play the dragon and the queen respectively, and help him practice reading when he's not up to playing. Eventually, Will spends so much time reading with Steve that Mike gets jealous, which I think would explain the ankle-biter moment in chocoarts's picture.
Mike is a bit of a jealous kiddo, because baby Holly gets all of Mom and Nancy's attention, and Dad isn't home too often cause of work. That's why, if any of his friends start spending more time with Steve than him, his ankle-biting tendencies surface. Oh, Will would rather read a story with Steve than play knights and castles with Mike? CHOMP! Even so, Steve and Robin both give Mike plenty of attention, so he warms up to them. He copies El, calling Steve Mom-Steve. He also starts calling Robin Auntie Birdie.
Last, but certainly not least, the Sinclair siblings. In this au, I think Lucas and Erica would either be twins, or the age gap would just be a year instead of 4, as it seems to be in canon (Lucas seeming to be a 15-year-old freshman when Erica is 11). Lucas likes playing catch a little more than the other boys, and Steve is always happy to play with him. But, I'm getting ahead of myself. Y'see, I just had the thought that when the Sinclairs tried sending Lucas and Erica to Hawkins Daycare, the two were surrounded by white children who didn't know anything other than the racist bullshit their parents said around them. The employees weren't much better. When the Sinclairs reached out to the Junior Bat-cave, on the other hand, Steve and Robin were perfectly respectful, and made sure the other kids knew to be respectful to Lucas and Erica, too. Anywho, as the two adjust, Steve loves to see how Lucas is just the best big brother. He knows that Erica is still a bit too small for catch, so he rolls his favorite ball around with her, instead. Also, Erica likes dogs in this au, so Steve helps Lucas draw and/or color in pictures of dogs and puppies. Robin is always happy to play with Erica, too. In fact, all the girls love finding all the dog stuffies in the daycare to play dog school, Erica's favorite game.
Alright! That's all I've got for this ramble. If anyone wants to take these ideas and just roll with them, feel free to do so. I hope my ramble did chocoarts's drawing justice!
I need a nine episode show of M’Baku dealing with the UN while chomping down on vegetables and disrespecting everyone like he did okoye over and over again and I need it now
like apparently everybody else i definitely would have burned the whole world down with namor no questions asked, shuri is so much better than me, honestly
m'baku is my new man, i love him, he's the finest and sexiest man alive (and im the most asexual person i known, i rarely find people sexy, this man is FINE)
ross is also my bro, just committing treason as if it was just another tuesday, such a mood
hate that white bitch (literally can't remember her name, the one with a streak of purple hair, ross ex wife apparently), her and that US representative man, they appeared for idk two minutes total and i hate them (her more, that bitch)
i thought lupita nyong'o could be more beautiful than she was but im wrong apparently
also i love women, i knew this before but wow, there were so many beautiful women in this movie i died
the most beautiful tribute to chadwick they could ever make, the beginning and the end? just pure perfection, started crying and ended up crying even more, amazing
talokan???? the most beautiful place on earth, and although im not native american (i live in a latin america country so i do understand the feeling in a way) it stuck to me how things could've been if colonization never happened, it was so beautiful (i cried that entire scene) (i cried a lot in this movie)
shuri's grieving arch was also beautiful, they really went hard on the 'trauma phase' huh? i read here before, but i really like how everybody understood that she was grieving and didn't push, props to that scene in the beginning with her and the queen by the lake
i think i could speak about this movie and its visuals for hours really, definitely going to see it again soon