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I love evil Armand so I'm going to try to expand on why I think a lot of people are mad - we all knew that Armand was the one who truly orchestrated and allowed Claudia's killing; that in and of itself was DEFINITIVELY bad enough - and also really centered Claudia. It's the fact that the writers made it so that Armand wanted Louis to be killed...when one of the central points of his character is how he interprets and enacts his love. For him to want Louis to be killed does not make sense...and makes him a far less nuanced character
Hmm. I disagree.
I elaborated my thoughts on that a bit here:
My gosh, what a finale. I I am a little confused about some thing though. So in the books is Armand‘s plan always from the start to have the
I think the misunderstanding is that Armand still has the power over the coven that he had in the book. That appears to be something they changed. Yes, he directed the play, but in the end a director is just a role for someone to fill. He doesn't have to be the coven leader for it. I don't think Armand wanted Louis to die; he was just willing to allow him to die because he couldn't trust in his love.
Hell, even the books aren't 100% clear on how much Armand had to do with the whole thing. He was certainly the reason Lestat was part of the trial, but neither Louis nor Lestat actually accuse him of engineering the trial, and Armand himself says he didn't do so--and yet, the subtext is there. So it's not a huge surprise to me that they went with a different interpretation.
*raises hand*
Can I say?
That scene when we see Armand directing the play? That wasn't from Armand's POV. It was from Louis' POV. The fade into it was via Loius reading the script.
And Louis wouldn't really know how it exactly went down during a rehearsal of the play-trial, would he?
The notes in the margins were in Armand's handwriting. You can compare it to the script for "My Baby Loves Windows" from episode 2x04 that had Armand's notes to Claudia in them. That is why Daniel requested a copy of the script. He was anticipating that if Armand had anything to do with that play of the trial, his handwritten notes would be in it, to compare.
But, even then, when Louis was still putting it all together by looking over the notes in the script, Armand was still denying it all. So that POV of the rehearsal was from Louis' POV, IMO. Probably Louis imagining how such a rehearsal could have happened.
Did Armand want Louis dead? Honestly no, I don't think so because then IMO that leaves open the question as to why Armand bothered to save Louis from being buried alive. Saving Louis from that shows that, in some way, he was willing to trust his love for Louis over his role in the Coven, I would think, right?
Did Lestat save Louis? For now yes, I think so. But right now, that is because we have the reunion scene where Lestat confirms he did. And if that reunion scene really happened? Okay, yes, that confirms that Louis' POV of it is correct. But there is a reason Lestat didn't try to save Claudia too -- and I don't think that was of his own accord or choice.
Because see, I can very much see how and why some Armand fans think this all strips him of his nuance. And him not being in charge of the coven but still going along with the coven on this? But then turning around and saving Louis after that from being buried alive? What changed Armand's mind? What changed his heart?
It's Daniel who supposed that Armand wanted Louis dead. And Louis, who had the evidence right there in front of him wrt Armand having been an active participant in the trial, the director of it even -- would Louis have had a reason to doubt what Daniel was suggesting? That Armand wanted him dead?
So I can't disagree with anyone who thinks the show was deliberately painting Armand to be some type of big villain here by wanting Louis dead. They were. On purpose. That is also the reason why they framed Daniel's turning as they did. Because Armand in any way turning Daniel out of nothing but spite is a villainous move. (Yes it is, and if anyone wants me to I'll explain why in another post.)
But I feel what is happening here (hopefully) is that this is all just being a result of how the first two books actually present Armand's character -- which is in the villain/antagonist role. That is the role he plays in the story during the first two books/stories.
And I don't think this framing of Armand is going to change next season either. Not with Lestat's story coming and knowing how Armand's character is presented in that story.
The nuance, the depth of it all wrt Armand's character? That comes later. When things start getting revealed about him starting in Queen of the Damned and going forward. But for now? Yes, he will be framed in the villain/antagonist POV and role. There isn't going to be no getting around that IMO.
Luckily, the show has already been hinting that there is more to Armand than this. We're just going to have to wait a while (Season 4, IMO) to see it fully.
imagine living in misery for 500 years and then ipads are invented. like maybe it was all worth it
based on this
It would have taken another immortal to keep up with him.
so i haven't read the books but i did read the Devil's Minion chapter and this part made me laugh out loud:
Daniel, Armand, and Devil's Minion at the end of Season 2
So for reference, this is a master post containing links and asks I've gotten about Armand and Daniel's relationship (Devil's Minion) as we head toward the end of Season 2, containing my thoughts on specific topics about them. These are links to some things I've been asked about wrt their relationship and speculations about it vis a vis the books, and thoughts on how the show looks to be adapting it as we head into the final two episodes of the season:
Why I think a large part of the Devil's Minion storyline, particually the 4-year Chase between Armand and Daniel, happened in the past, during the book's original timeline; including signs and hints that it did -- here, here, here, here, here and here.
What I think Louis was doing while Armand was chasing younger Daniel for 4 years (as well as very likely the first 3 years of their full relationship after that) -- here.
Why I think Louis doesn't know -- or remember -- what happened between Armand and Daniel in the past -- here.
Why I don't think it was Armand who erased Daniel's memories of their past relationship -- here and here.
Daniel, Parkinson's Disease, and Dr. Fareed -- here, here, and here.
What I think will happen to Daniel at the end of Season 2 (pure speculation but could contain spoilers if correct) -- here, here, here, and here.
Daniel's importance to Armand's story (a.k.a. why Daniel won't be killed off . . . or at least he won't stay dead if he does die) -- here, here, and here.
Bonus:
What Rolin Jones said at SDCC 2022 about Devil's Minion -- here (YouTube Video).
Thoughts and Speculation after 2x07 (Spoilers):
A lot of people have said that this moment from the Season 2 trailers might actually be caused by a fight between Louis and Armand in the penthouse:
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And I have to say, after watching episode 2x07? I think they might be right.
Because if you know the book, you know that it is at the very end of it, like literally the last few pages, where it's revealed that Louis knew the whole time about Armand's role in what happened to Claudia. And they break up.
And so I think the same thing is coming next week on the show. Only in the show's regard, Louis knew of Armand's role, as we saw here -- but then was made to forget the actual full context of just how involved Armand was.
Because, as I pointed out on Twitter, this image from the trial --
-- is quite something. You have both the writer and director for the Théâtre des Vampires not on stage for this whole thing. Very much underlying the fact that this is a theatrical play that is being put on. As we saw, there was even a real, actual SCRIPT for this whole thing!
Like, how much more could the show have been pointing to what was really going on here? Trust a writing staff of playwrights to be meta about all of this. 🙃
Because the ending of this trial was written and locked in long ago. And who is the one that usually says when a play or film is locked in and finished?
The Director. (And yes I know producers and studios do too, but Armand is very much all of that wrt his role for their little theater as well).
BTW, Santiago and the coven did NOT expect Armand to do that to the audience. Saving Louis was very much off-script. And if Armand really had no power here, the coven could have just taken Louis off stage and killed him another way. The only reason they didn't was because Armand was very much not powerless in all of this.
Like, I love Armand's character, I really do -- now. But that is something that only came about after I read the books from Queen of the Damned forward. For the first two books, I very much did not like him. And, particularly when it comes to the Paris part of this story, that is where we are with his character right now. I know why he's doing what he's doing, I understand it. But I can't defend it.
Louis probably figured things out before San Francisco in 1973. He probably knew Armand's full role in what went down, same as in the book, after it all happened. But it was his suicide attempt that had Armand redact that knowledge from Louis' mind. The clues for that being the case are all there after episode 2x05.
Because, at the end of the day, even knowing Armand's full role in Claudia's death, Louis still mostly blamed himself for it all.
As we see, things are slowly starting to come back to Louis, but he's not fully there yet. And I think this whole memory thing is a more literal interpretation of the veil that descended over Louis' mind after Paris in the books.
A veil that only began to lift once Armand revealed to Louis that Lestat was alive. As we've seen, Louis knew Lestat was alive back in 1973. I'm not sure if he does so now. But maybe this isn't about knowing if Lestat is alive or not. Maybe it's just Louis thinking he needed to be punished because of his own role in failing Claudia -- and staying away from Lestat was part of that self-punishment. Because that view is a feeling I got when watching episode 2x05 and Louis not wanting to speak to Lestat. His refusal to speak wasn't out of anger IMO, but more fear and even sorrow.
The show is very much sticking to the beats of the book with all of this, and not revealing things about what happened that were revealed in later books. So I don't think Louis fully knows what was going on with Lestat during that trial. I wouldn't be surprised if we learn he still doesn't, since he never learned it in the first book.
But as I said here, it was clear as day that Lestat wasn't himself during that trial. Physically and especially mentally. I didn't even guess that the show would be that obvious about it, but they were. All very much hinting about what was really going on with his appearance here.
And Louis himself might, just might figure that out for himself. Especially if Dreamstat might appear to be back in his mind again. Because Dreamstat is very much Louis' subconscious. And I think Louis' subconscious knows something important is missing wrt all of this.
It was nice that, at least in the end, someone chose Claudia. Madeleine could have escaped this but chose to die with Claudia instead when she didn't have to. Her little middle finger to the crowd gave me a smile.
They did not do the full reveal of Claudia's diaries and what was in them on stage, which I seriously thought they would. They gave a hint about it, but more so in episode 2x05 than in here. Which means that, in a later season, we're still looking at that reveal from Merrick happening it seems. But then again . . . there were some things I suspect got left out on purpose because the actual (attempted) murder of Lestat was very much glossed over for us, the audience, during that trial sequence. We are very much set to revisit that whole thing during The Vampire Lestat adaptation in Season 3, of course. But I think even more will be revealed about that there then I originally thought.
And finally, Claudia. They said in the Inside The Episode they wanted her to go out with as much strength and defiance as she could and yeah, she did. But in the end, I still think she was angry, sad, and hurt by it all, which she had every right to be. Because at the end of the day, she never should have been made and was made for all the wrong reasons. But being turned so young made her a fierce and pure vampire though and though because she never had enough time to have lived a human life to have those types of morals and outlooks fully imprinted on her. That was always one of Claudia's core traits wrt her being turned so young, and she still had it here. And yes girl, you will haunt things after this -- particularly your parents.
In fact, it probably very much was your voice Louis heard calling him back in 2x05, wasn't it?
So, for a penultimate episode, this was very, very good. And things are very much going to explode next week. I knew Louis going Carrie/Firestarter on the coven would happen in 2x08. That moment always screamed "season finale" to me. Santiago picking up Claudia's yellow dress is also significant, as I think we'll see Louis' POV of that moment with Lestat about it.
And the break up between Louis and Armand might just be much more violent than it was in the book as well.
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Bonus BTS :
Le Rouge et le Noir - Julien Sorel (comédie musicale)
Looking up in Shakespeare (featuring David Tennant & the Royal Shakespeare Company)
Romeo - Romeo and Juliette (2000)
Richard II - Richard II (2013)
Hamlet - Hamlet (2008)
Touchstone - As You Like It (1996)
Berowne - Love’s Labours Lost (2008)
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Robert Plant about Greta Von Fleet
Interviewer: Any up-and-coming rock’n’roll band that you really, really like?
Robert: There is a band in Detroit called Greta Van Fleet. They are Led Zeppelin 1.
I: Yep
R: It’s like… The kid looks like he just dropped out of a kind off… beautiful little singer, very smart…
I: I’ve seen them! They’re really, really young!
R: Yeah, I hate him! /said with an amused smile/
I: He’s got such a huge voice!
R: Yeah! And he borrowed it from somebody I know very well! I mean what are you gonna do? It’s okay…
I: Do you know, has he tried to meet you…?
R: No, he has a bit of stuck because he’s said he based his whole style on Aerosmith. /rolls eyes and pretends to snore still obviously amused/
Pink Floyd ‘Animals’ 1977 Press Photos
River by Heidi Gibbs.
Mudstock.