okay with feminine terms (sometimes even like them)
Age: 27-34
Roles: comforter, protector, caretaker, traumaholder; Hazbin Hotel fictive
Angel's full intro
🦋/🌨️ Nigel (he/him)
Age: most often 7-9 years, but sometimes he may be a little older or a little younger than that
Roles: little one, comforter, traumaholder
🟦 Ethan (he/him)
Age: ~43-47
Roles: communicator, protector, caretaker, "working person"; Hazbin Hotel OCtive
Ethan's full intro
🏞️ Lawrence (he/him)
aka Lawrence "Fern" Oleander
Age: 25-27
Roles: co-host (since May 2026), "working person", introject from BTD2, ???
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Some others headmates:
(we'll tell about 'em later)
🍪 Ren Hana (he/him) (Ren's full intro)
🏹 Asher/Ash/N.H (he/him)
🚩 Kai (he/him>it/its+they/them)
🪬 Helga/Lorna (she/her)
💌 [redacted] (he/him >> any other) don't wanna tell my name publicly yet
🍂 Fuyu (he/him)
That's all for now! There are many more of us in the system, but these are the main active ones at the moment. In the future, the pinned post will be expanded and/or redacted
I'm not sure how well I drew the hair, I mean, how similar it is to what she really has, but I like how it's drawn. And overall, it's actually quite nice — 🌾 Revo, host
Many of us are interested in communication and meeting new people, but unfortunately, very often people, even those who know about us as a system, mainly communicate with me and do not strive to get to know more than others in the system. To be honest, this upsets me as a host as well.
Yes, I personally may appear to be the most friendly and open, and also I'm a "public person" most of the time, but this doesn't mean that others don't need human contact and don't wanna have their problems and experiences heard not only inside the system
If they were heard, they would be more open and more willing to share something about themselves
People always want me, very rarely someone like Ethan or Angie, but not someone else from the system, and if I need rest and want to leave the front, then I can’t do that. I love to be needed, I love to be wanted, but I also need rest sometimes and, again, I want others in the system to have their own friends, to have someone to talk to. But... When I'm not here, the system will have no one to communicate with from the outside world, only with each other, but they are all interesting, everyone has something to talk about, something to tell, and sometimes it’s not just me who needs help, but people never bother to get to know them. In the best cases, even if my headmates finally decide to talk about their problems outside the system, they don't get detailed help, support, it's at best something like "oh, this is sad, I'm so sorry". It is never a discussion of their feelings or an attempt to know these feelings, experiences, to know what worries them in detail
No matter what kind of relationship between us and J. system was, they're probably almost the ones who really tried to communicate not only with me, at least until the moment of our breakup, but even they, during the front of others in the system irl, often addressed them as "Revo", but this is only my as a host name, it's not even a shared name for the system
I'm tired to always be the "social mask"/"public person" for the system. Especially considering that even I don't always feel heard.
if we look at this with the fact that we still share one brain, this is also not something good. mm. like.
only a part of the system's interests and problems is heard. only a part of the brain's interests and problems is heard; the other part of communication needs remains unmet and ignored. and this can affect the overall state of the system. not only on the condition of individual headmates.
Many of us are interested in communication and meeting new people, but unfortunately, very often people, even those who know about us as a system, mainly communicate with me and do not strive to get to know more than others in the system. To be honest, this upsets me as a host as well.
Yes, I personally may appear to be the most friendly and open, and also I'm a "public person" most of the time, but this doesn't mean that others don't need human contact and don't wanna have their problems and experiences heard not only inside the system
If they were heard, they would be more open and more willing to share something about themselves
People always want me, very rarely someone like Ethan or Angie, but not someone else from the system, and if I need rest and want to leave the front, then I can’t do that. I love to be needed, I love to be wanted, but I also need rest sometimes and, again, I want others in the system to have their own friends, to have someone to talk to. But... When I'm not here, the system will have no one to communicate with from the outside world, only with each other, but they are all interesting, everyone has something to talk about, something to tell, and sometimes it’s not just me who needs help, but people never bother to get to know them. In the best cases, even if my headmates finally decide to talk about their problems outside the system, they don't get detailed help, support, it's at best something like "oh, this is sad, I'm so sorry". It is never a discussion of their feelings or an attempt to know these feelings, experiences, to know what worries them in detail
No matter what kind of relationship between us and J. system was, they're probably almost the ones who really tried to communicate not only with me, at least until the moment of our breakup, but even they, during the front of others in the system irl, often addressed them as "Revo", but this is only my as a host name, it's not even a shared name for the system
I'm tired to always be the "social mask"/"public person" for the system. Especially considering that even I don't always feel heard.
Many of us are interested in communication and meeting new people, but unfortunately, very often people, even those who know about us as a system, mainly communicate with me and do not strive to get to know more than others in the system. To be honest, this upsets me as a host as well.
Yes, I personally may appear to be the most friendly and open, and also I'm a "public person" most of the time, but this doesn't mean that others don't need human contact and don't wanna have their problems and experiences heard not only inside the system
If they were heard, they would be more open and more willing to share something about themselves
(Nothing too extreme or detailed, just some thoughts on creating a separate blog for such things, taking into account the peculiarities of our system)
Okay, some of the system's members asked to create a separate blog for NSFT reposts, interactions with people and so on
On the one hand, I, as a host, don't mind it at all, like, they can do this, they're all adults. But on the other hand, they... Well, some of them once had a separate custom field in the additional information in the SP that they could interact sеxually only under the supervision of other headmates and/or with their permission. Because of their mental state, they are not always fully responsible for themselves. They won't harm anyone, if any careless actions are taken towards anyone outside the system, someone else from the system will immediately be here, but they may harm themselves and that's the main problem
I don't want any additional sеxual trauma for our system, I don't wanna feed our hypersеxuality even if I myself don't hold it so much anymore. I don't want them to get hurt. I don't want them to hurt themselves, I love my headmates and I want them to be okay
I respect their right to make decisions, but at the same time I understand that due to their mental state they cannot always fully take responsibility for themselves, especially in such things, and also we are still a system, we're all too connected
There is one headmate who is more adequate and could look after the others, but there are a few details here: he doesn’t want to take this responsibility (I can’t blame him) and he doesn’t want to take it for several reasons at once; he himself is hypersеxual to some extent and in theory can use sеxual interaction as a way to cope and that's... Really can be bad for him. There is one more nuance, but at the request of this headmate I will remain silent about it, for him this is personal and he wants to sort it out on his own
This is complicated for me as a host and I'm not sure what to do tbh
If anyone can suggest anything, I don't mind DMs or comments
We decided to make this blog after discussions within the system. We will work on the pinned post because many people in our system will use it, but in different ways/different amount of time
I'm gonna say it, I do think that even the laziest person imaginable should have a roof over their head, food in their stomach, and access to healthcare
abelds have this funky ability where they hear disabled people say they "can't" do something and instead of hearing "can't" as in, cannot, they hear "i can if i push myself and i just don't wanna". which is really interesting!
(Nothing too extreme or detailed, just some thoughts on creating a separate blog for such things, taking into account the peculiarities of our system)
Okay, some of the system's members asked to create a separate blog for NSFT reposts, interactions with people and so on
On the one hand, I, as a host, don't mind it at all, like, they can do this, they're all adults. But on the other hand, they... Well, some of them once had a separate custom field in the additional information in the SP that they could interact sеxually only under the supervision of other headmates and/or with their permission. Because of their mental state, they are not always fully responsible for themselves. They won't harm anyone, if any careless actions are taken towards anyone outside the system, someone else from the system will immediately be here, but they may harm themselves and that's the main problem
I don't want any additional sеxual trauma for our system, I don't wanna feed our hypersеxuality even if I myself don't hold it so much anymore. I don't want them to get hurt. I don't want them to hurt themselves, I love my headmates and I want them to be okay
I respect their right to make decisions, but at the same time I understand that due to their mental state they cannot always fully take responsibility for themselves, especially in such things, and also we are still a system, we're all too connected
There is one headmate who is more adequate and could look after the others, but there are a few details here: he doesn’t want to take this responsibility (I can’t blame him) and he doesn’t want to take it for several reasons at once; he himself is hypersеxual to some extent and in theory can use sеxual interaction as a way to cope and that's... Really can be bad for him. There is one more nuance, but at the request of this headmate I will remain silent about it, for him this is personal and he wants to sort it out on his own
This is complicated for me as a host and I'm not sure what to do tbh
If anyone can suggest anything, I don't mind DMs or comments
Many, if not all, of the fictives in our system perceive their appearing in the system as a chance for a completely new life, as a chance to start everything
Most of them appreciate this new chance and therefore try to move away from their past habits and take into account the mistakes of their past. Yes, it is difficult for many of them, because they, as people who “appeared from outside” the system, are used to living alone in their own body, but over time they get used to it, and we try to help them adapt here
Btw I want to talk about how our fictives perceive themselves
They understand perfectly well that they're part of the system.
But the most psychologically comfortable perception for them is this:
• There is their source and, accordingly, their prototype. They separate themselves from their source, at least at the level of understanding that “in this world my biography is just a media"
• They also divide their source and their "pre-system past" into two different concepts, which, nevertheless, intersect. They can, for example, look at the media and say, “this didn’t happen”, “this did happen”, “this happened, but in different way”, “these things happened between these events” and so on
• Some of them may enjoy media with their prototype and watch it with interest (our Lawrence, for example), while others are more emotionally involved in a bad way and for them it may be painful (Angel, Ren)
Our thoughts below can be both useful and validating for systems and potentially uncomfortable at the same time
Also remember that we are not psychiatrists, even if we studied psychology at university as our main field, everything below is purely our thoughts, assumptions and theories. Everything written below works primarily for us as an adult traumagenic system
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We, the absolute majority of the system (fuck you, Lee — 🏹 Ash), would never say "this didn't happen to you" to the fictives from our system or other systems. There are several reasons for this. At the very least, it's rude and could offending or upsetting (or something like that) for the introject. At most, the biography of the introject is often very closely related to the biography of the body (especially when we talk about traumaholders) or the needs of the brain and system overall (especially when we talk about caretakers, protectors, parental figures and so on).
The body's emotional memory intersects with the fictive's emotional "memory." Something more concrete (biography of fictive) is drawn to emotions. But these memories will still mostly be less vivid than those of brainmades associated with the biography of the body. If we're talking about trauma, then trauma of fictives is an allegory for trauma that happened to the body. It's more than real on an emotional level. Any traumatized person (if singlets) or brain (if system) tends to subconsciously or consciously tell themselves that “I haven’t suffered enough to feel that awful and have the right to receive help”. And this prevents us from processing the trauma. So someone who has "suffered enough" appears and often that's introject, fictive or OCtive.
In this way the brain distances itself from the trauma, while still trying to process it. Brain dissociating.
"It wasn't me, it was someone else and the people around him, but anyway it was terrible, I should care about that new pal here".
We may not be very good at maintaining stable communication, unfortunately, but most of us would either be happy about it, or they at least wouldn't mind!
