People need to take a step back and get some perspective here. I'm so tired of his fans or people halfass paying attention who defend him with the "well he doesn't deserve having his every move observed..." Salem willingly posts all this shit online on MAIN or accounts that clearly indicate they are run by him. He willingly "came out" as puppychan after living in somewhat anonymity for awhile. "Victim blaming" this and that-
Look. No one is responsible for Salem's safety and wellbeing BUT Salem. He is mister "I'm in my mid 20s, I know things" at 23, he's a big boy, guys! He HAD a quiet life. He has been given ample advice on how to live safer online or ffs just get OFFLINE. He chooses not to. He chooses to still watch these blogs despite being banned on tumblr. He still chooses to watch kiwifarms??? He IS NOT immune to criticism, whether it is his art or actions. He built his community brick by brick and YES, he put himself in this position, keeps himself here, and refuses to get help. All the while he plays this innocent victim, but let's look at the list of offenses??
- constant suicide baiting
- racism of every kind, but specifically the infantilization and sexualization of Asians
- dated a nazi and openly supported her harassment of a rape victim
- turned around and BEFRIENDED the rapist as well (allegedly dated???)
- spews "progressive" ideology that is just woke-flavored misogyny and transphobia
- performative engagement with those struggling in Gaza and literally had to be bullied into supporting support blogs.
- weaponizing minority status while punching down people like him, ESPECIALLY black tumblr users and other trans men
- untagged fetish work while allowing minors to follow him. inability to filter out minors
- grifting through lies of abuse and neglect (Salem you were 20, your mom wasnt neglecting you, you were a grown ass man) then using donation money for sex toys and a fursuit
- obsession with incest SPECIFICALLY with teenage girls
- literally wanted to nonconsensually involve his family in his kinks
- engages with people who ID as pedophiles
- stealing from smaller artists
- race traitor ass shit where he defends all white trans women but calls other black ppl coons 🤨
But yeah he's toooootally so innocent and doesn't deserve the criticism he gets.
Yeah, the whole thing about defending transwoman for being racist is exactly why I and others document this stuff. He contradicts himself so easily, all you need to do is find the post.
https://www.tumblr.com/bm-blog01/809592333090897920/happy-families?source=share i wish with all my heart they didnt give that damn baby he name of edmund. You said you had anxious moments thinking they didnt name him that and i wish your fiers were tru and they didnt name him edmund. God know you deserve , big deserve the suffering. Ypu are a bad person, shitty person indeed and you deserve shit so i wish they didnpt give you, and all the awful kanthony fans that. But i guess evil wins in the world. Like, simone ashley who is shitty woman wins because she is skinny, evil but skinny hahahahaha
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I wasn't going to respond to this but I wanted to save you the follow up abusive anon calling me a coward among other names that would not doubt be worse than a shitty person and a bitch.
“All characters have annoying fans!” Wow! Behold the most Lukewarm fucking take of all time!
Fandoms are shared spaces, people are allowed to complain about others behaviour within this shared space. “Okay but not everyone is [negative trait]” correct! This post is about people who are like that though!
Anyway, I thrive on being a hater lmao. There’s this one Tim tiktok content creator that keeps popping up on my timeline bc I follow other DC character tags and it annoys me so MUCH
I’m not sure abt the actual content creator, but people keep reposting their TikTok’s with so many unrelated tags it clogs up everything
It’s making me hate Tim as a character from the utter fatigue I have of him lmao. And like,, it’s fanon Tim not even the canonical one so he’s ooc and it makes me
Don’t get me wrong, people can head canon the characters to be whatever they want, but they can’t claim it to be accurate
Like in one video it’s the audio of “kill me like you killed my mother” and the caption is newly-a-Robin Tim talking to the joker (basically him telling the joker “kill me like you killed my brother (Jason)”
The timeline wouldn’t make any sense with context that they’re trying to write up which is like,, whatever people can be creative as they like but it’s when people completely disregard canon and try to spread this as the actual timeline that annoys me
No, Tim wouldn’t have considered Jason his brother and that point nor would he have been able to face the joker with minimum training and be such a badass. This is a white rich kid who stalks as a hobby, the joker would’ve fucking used him to taunt Batman or told him to fuck off cause he has no interest in him, he’s not gonna have some emotionally charged confrontation with him lmao
It’s Bruce that everyone is obsessed with, not Tim. None of the rogues would’ve looked at any of the robins twice if not for their association with Batman
This was a longer rant than I intended,,, oops?
I’m sorry about all that rambling lmao, feel free to ignore this. Cheers! /gen
I will never ignore T*m Dr*ke slander.
He should have never moved on from the skater boy with a hot step mom era.
OK! THAT IS IT! THIS IS THE FINAL STRAW! I’VE HAD IT WITH ALL YOU FRICKIN’ TROLLS AND ALL YOU FRICKIN’ HATERS AND ALL YOU FRICKIN SONIC FAN FRICKS. YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES THAT RUINED SONIC FOR EVERYONE! CANT YOU SEE THAT? WHAT THE FRICK! ARE YOU GUYS DOING! ASKING FOR ALL THIS FRICKING GARBAGE- WHY DO WE NEED SONIC ADVENTURE 3? WHY DO WE NEED SONIC HEROES 3? WHY DO WE NEED ANITHR BOOST TO WIN TITLE? WHY DO WE NEED A SONIC 2006 SEQUEL? WHY DO WE NEED ALL THAT? CANT WE HAVE A 3D [ENVIRONMENT] CLASSIC SONIC GAME FOR CRYING OUT FRICKIN LOUD! YOU GUYS KILLED THE SONIC SERIES ALL YOU FRICKIN FAN FRICKS AND YOUR FRICKIN FANTASIES SPEWED OUT AT YOU BY FRICKIN POO MERCHANTS!!! I’M TIRED OF ALL YOU FRICKS! I’M SO FRICKIN MAD! I’M SO FRICKIN MAD- I MEAN, YOU GUYS- YOU GUYS HAVE OFFICIALLY MADE ME LOSE MY MARBLES! WHY CANT YOU GUYS JUST ASK FOR A 3D ENVIRONMENT CLASSIC SONIC GAME! THIS IS A NIGHTMARE! [THROWS CHAIR] I’M SURE NO SONIC FAN PREDICT- WOULD PREDICT- THAT THE ADVENTURE- THE ADVENTURE FANTASIZES WOULD RUIN EVERYTHING! [BREATHING HEAVILY] AND NOW- AND NOW I BET BY NOW THAT SEGA HAS GOT A FREAKIN SONIC ADVENTURE 3 IN DEVELOPMENT WITH SONIC TEAM BECAUSE YOU FRICKIN FRICKS CAN’T EVER, BE QUENCHED. YOUR FANTASIES CAN’T EVER BE QUENCHED- CAN THEY? YOU FRICKIN FRICKS. WHEN WILL YOU LEARN.. WHEN WILL YOU LEARN THAT YOUR ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!? YOU GUYS KEEP ON ASKING FOR SONIC ADVENTURE 3! YOU’RE RUINING THE SONIC SERIES- HASN’T IT ALREADY SUFFERED ENOUGH!?
AND IT’S STILL SUFFERING! WHAT THE FRICK! SEGA JUST CAN’T PERFECT SONIC IN THE MODERN WORLD, CAN THEY? ALL ‘CUZ WE HAVE TO HAVE MODERN SONIC! WE HAVE TO HAVE THE MODERN CHARACTERS! WE HAVE TO HAVE WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ADVENTURE TITLE DON’T WE? ANOTHER ADVENTURE TITLE! AAAHHHH!!! YOU FRICKIN FRICKS! I’VE HAD IT! I’VE FRICKIN HAD IT! YOU GUYS HAVE OFFICIALY RUINED EVERYTHING! YOU’VE RUINED THE SONIC SERIES THE SONIC SERIES IS DEAD BECAUSE OF THE SONIC FANBASE I WILL FOREVER HATE THE SONIC FANBASE THEY RUINED EVERYTHING RUIN EVERYTHING! I HATE THE SONIC FANBASE! I! HATE ‘EM! [BREATHING] WHY IS THE SONIC FANBASE HAVE TO BE LIKE THIS? WHY’S THE SONIC FANBASE HAVE TO BE SO NUMBSKULLED!? CAN’T YOU GUYS FRICKIN’ ACCEPT, THAT WE NEED A 3D ENVIRONMENT CLASSIC SONIC GAME!? HOLY FRICKIN’ FRICKS! HOLY FRICKIN’ FRICKS! WHY CAN’T WE HAVE A 3D ENVIRONMENT CLASSIC SONIC GAME? IS THAT SO HARD TO ASK? WHY CAN’T WE HAVE A SONIC CD SEQUEL- OR A SONIC PREQUEL- OR, EVEN, A PROPER SONIC 4!? WHY CAN’T WE HAVE THAT!? WHY DO WE NEED A SONIC ADVENTURE 3!?!? WHY DO WE NEED THAT?!? WHY!??! TELL ME! (GETS UNCOMFORTABLY CLOSE TO THE CAMERA) TELL ME. TELL ME NOW! RAAH! CURSE YOU SONIC FRICKS! YOU GUYS RUINED IT! YOU RUINED IT AND YOUR FRICKIN FANTASIES YOUR ADVENTURE FANTASIES- LET’S SEE, OOH YEAH GIVE US A SONIC ADVENTURE 3, GIVE US TREASURE HUNTING- GIVE US SHOOTING- THAT’S WHAT SONIC’S ALL ABOUT, HUH!?!? RIGHT! RIGHT! SEGA, RIGHT! GIVE US FRICKIN’ MORE SONIC CLONES! YEAH, WE NEED MORE OF THOSE! AS IF SHADOW WASN’T ENOUGH- OR SILVER, OH WOH, WHILE YOU’RE AT IT, WHY NOT- WHY NOT FRICKIN’ GIVE US MORE DRAGON BALL Z SONIC DUELS! WE’LL NEED THAT HUH! WE ALL NEED THAT! WHY DON’T NEED CLASSIC SONIC RIGHT!?!? WROOONG!!
WHY DO YOU GUYS HAVE TO RUIN IT WITH YOUR FANTASIES!? WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE LIKE THIS- I MEAN, FOR MONTHS, I’VE BEEN GIVING EVERYONE MY IDEAS OF A 3D ENVIRONMENT SONIC GAME IN THE STYLE OF [SIDE 3 AND KNUCKLES] WHICH IS PERSONALLY THE BEST SONIC GAME! OKAY!? I MEAN- SEGA NEVER ACKNOWLEDGES [SONIC 3 AND KNUCKLES]- IT MAKES ME SO MAD! I MEAN, WHY DOESN’T THAT GAME GET ATTENTION EVEN SONIC CD DOES! THIS MAKES ME SO FRICKIN’ MAD, YOU SONIC FANS HAD TO RUIN EVERYTHING WITH YOUR ADVENTURE FANTASIES! HOLY FRICK! OH, GIVE US SONIC ADVENTURE 3, GIVE US SONIC HEROES 2, GIVE US SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG 2, GIVE US SONIC 2006 2! SONIC 2006 SEQUEL, YEAH, GIVE US MORE BOOST TO WIN. YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY ASKING FOR MORE BOOST TO WIN- OH YEAH, FRICK [SONIC LAWS RULE] GIVE US MORE BOOST TO WIN— NO!!
YOU FRICKIN’ FRICKS! YOU GUYS HAD TO RUIN IT! YOU GUYS HAD TO RUIN IT! WHY!? WHY, WHY!? WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE LIKE THIS!? WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE LIKE THIS? WHY? WHY? WHY WHY WHY WHY? YOU SONIC FANS, THE SONIC FANBASE JUST GOT ME FRICKIN’ WORKED UP! ALL ‘CUZ THEY CAN’T GIVE US SOMETHING ACTUALLY ACCEPTABLE! JUST WHAT THE FRICK, WAHT THE FRICK. THIS MAKES ME SO MAD. YOU GUYS RUINED EVERYTHING WITH YOUR ADVENTURE FANTASIES YOU GUYS ARE FRICKIN IDIOTS- WH-WHY’D YOU HAVE TO RUIN EVERYTHING!? WHY? WHY!? JUST WHY? WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE LIKE THIS? I’M TIRED OF THIS! I’M TIRED OF THIS! THE SONIC SERIES IS RUINED (POINTS TO CAMERA) THANKS TO YOU GUYS! YOU FRICKIN FRICKS! HOLY FRICK! WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE THIS WAY?!?! RRR- I HATE THE SONIC FANBASE SONIC IS RUINED WHY CAN’T YOU GUYS LAUNCH YOUR REBUTTAL AGAINST SEGA FOR A 3D ENVIRONMENT CLASSIC SONIC GAME!? WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE THAT HARD? YOU. FRICKIN’. FRICKS! FRICKIN’ FRICKS! FRICKIN’. FRICKS!
AND LIKE I WAS SAYING EARLIER SEGA NEVER ACKNOWLEDGES SONIC 3 AND KNUCKLES! WAHT THE FRICK! WHY CAN’T THEY EVER FRICKIN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT GAME! THEY NEVER FRICKIN PORT IT! YOU ALWAYS SEE THEM PORTING FRICKIN SONIC 1 AND SONIC 2- IT’S NEVER SONIC 3 AND KNUCKLES! WHAT THE FRICK, IF SEGA JUST TRIED TO MAKE A GAME LIKE SONIC 3 AND KNUCKLES, I BET THAT COULD RECOVER THE SONIC SERIES! YOU FRICKIN’ FRICKS SAY, OH, THE SONIC SERIES CAN’T BE FRICKIN RECOVERED- IT CAN BE FRICKIN RECOVERED IF YOU GUYS WOULD JUST FRICKIN COOPERATE! AND FRICKIN ASK FOR A 3D ENVIRONMENT CLASSIC SONIC GAME! HOLY FRICKIN FRICKS! WHAT THE FRICK IS WRONG WITH YOU GUYS? WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE LIKE THIS!? WHY CAN’T YOU GUYS ASK FOR SOMETHING FRICKIN WORTHWHILE!? WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE LIKE THIS? HOLY FRICK I HATE ALL YOU FRICKIN FAN FRICKS! AND LIKE I SAID, IT’S ALWAYS SONIC 1 AND SONIC 2! THOSE GAMES ALWAYS GET ACKNOWLEDGED IT’S NEVER SONIC 3 AND KNUCKLES! THAT’S THE BEST SONIC GAME! HOLY FRICKIN’ FRICKS! IT’S NOT SONIC ADVENTURE 2! IT’S NOT- IT’S- IT’S NOT SONIC ’06 LIKE SOME OF YOU SAY- IT’S NOT SONIC 2006! YOU FRICKIN’ FRICKS COME TO MY CHANNEL AND SAY, OH, SONIC 2006 IS THE BEST GAME! I KNOW IT’S JUST YOU FRICKIN’ TROLLS TRYING TO FRICKIN’ TRYING TO FRICKIN’- TRYING TO FRICKIN’, MESS WITH ME, WHAT THE FRICK! WHAT THE FRICK! YOU-YOU FRICKIN’ TROLLS SEE THAT— AGGHH!!! GET OFF MY CHANNEL RIGHT NOW! YOU FRICKIN’ FRICKS! I HATE ALL OF YOU! WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE LIKE— MM. THIS. WHY CAN’T YOU GUYS JUST FRICKIN’- UH- WHY CAN’T YOU GUYS JUST FRICKIN’ BE GOOD PEOPLE? AND, THE SONIC FANBASE— CURSE THE SONIC FANBASE! YOU GUYS ARE ONES THAT RUINED THE SERIES! YOU RUINED THIS ENTIRE SERIES, HOLY FRICKIN FRICK..S! UH. AND GUESS WHAT? MH. YOU FRICKIN’ FRICKS— OK, SIGH, YOU KNOW WHAT? MARIO’S DOING MUCH BETTER RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, WHEN FANS REQUESTED UH, WHEN FANS REQUESTED, A 3D ENVIRONMENT CLASSIC MARIO GAME, NINTENDO FRICKIN’ DID IT! WHY CAN’T SEGA BE THE SAME? I THOUGHT WHEN SONIC LOST WORLD WAS ANNOUNCED- IT WAS A 3D ENVIRONMENT CLASSIC SONIC GAME.. BUT GUESS WHAT? INSTEAD, WE GET SUPER SONIC GALAXY! OK, YEAH, I’M SORRY.. I’M SORRY.. THAT. OK, I ACTUALLY LIKE SONIC LOST WORLD- I’M SORRY. I’M JUST GETTING WORKED UP, ‘CUZ OF YOU FRICKIN’ SONIC HATERS! HOLY FRICKIN FRICKS! I MEAN, THIS MAKES ME SO MAD! YOU FRICKIN’ FRICKS! JUST RUINED EVERYTHING! WITH YOUR FRICKIN ADVENTURE FANTASIES- YOUR FRICKIN FANTASIES (STARTS CRYING)
(CRYING CONTINUES. he keeps crying for like.. a solid minute..) YOU FRICKIN’ FRICKS.. RUINED EVERYTHING… YOU FRICKIN’— ADVENTURE.. FANTASIES… (SOBS) WE CAN’T GET A SONIC 2006 SEQUEL, YOU EEE-DIOTS! ‘CUZ THAT’S WHAT RUINED SONIC THE FIRST TIME.. (BREAKS DOWN SOBBING. GURGLES) YOU FRICKIN’ FRICKS! YOU GUYS HAVE TO RUIN EVERYTHING! I HATE YOU FRICKIN’ TROLLS! FRIIIIIICKKK YOOOOOU!
please… sonic fans.. i beg of you. please, stop porting sonic adventure 3.. and support my idea… of a 3d platforming classic sonic game PLEASE. please.. please.. please, all sonic fans out there.. we can assemble.. and… heal sonic for good. WE DON’T HAVE TO LISTEN! TO THESE ADVENTURE- FANTASIZERS. THESE FRICKIN’ FAN FRICKS. WE DONT HAVE TO FRICKIN’ LSITEN TO THEM. PLEASE.. PLEASE SONIC FANS- WE [INAUDIBLE GURGLING] STOP SUPPORTING SONIC ADVENTURE 3- STOP! RUINING! SONIC! YOU FRICKIN’ FAN FRICKS RUINED SONIC [GURGLING SOME MORE]
FRICK! FRICK! OWW! FRICK! FRICK! FRICK. [LOUD YELLING] FRICK! THIS IS FRICKIN’ STUPID! UUURGHHH HGHUUURGH CURSE YOOOOOU CURSE YOU SONIC FANBASE.
Absolutely wild for you to use Hilter not being a Christian (and instead insisting he was an atheist for some reason?) as a talking point in defending Christianity from mild criticism brought on by you repeatedly making snide comment about how crude Hazbin is as if that takes away it's creators ability to have anything to say about modern day religion and its impacts.
Other highlights included:
Offhandly referencing a biased questionnaire coming from a Christian institution that found Christians self report more giving than other groups. Funny how that works.
Bringing up how Christians have been oppressed and then not including the small detail that most of the examples you described were Christians oppressing other sects of Christianity.
Insinuating that religious trauma is just a result of being disrespected and not like, a real trauma from both legal and illegal prosecutions up to dehumanizing women, torture (or would you call conversion therapy just being mean?), and murders affecting whole communities for entire generations.
Anyways if it's that bothersome to you that a show is mildly irrevant about a specific brand of hateful rhetoric spread by some Christians, maybe the call is coming from inside the house.
Excuse any and all criticism about the bible and preachers all you want but it doesn't change inherent misogyny in the Bible or in Christian rhetoric. If it was really about them being from the same flesh and equals then they would from the same thing (be it God, earth or animal) and thered be a lack of insistence on men having one role and women having another, but that's simply not what the story seems to be conveying even on a metaphorical level and not how it's been preached for thousands of years. And that's simply one story in the whole book used to demonstrate why women shouldn't have rights.
Dude, chill out. You are putting a lot of words in my mouth and seriously strawmanning. "Mild criticism" Wow. You've just lashed out at me for what I consider mild criticism of a fictional show. If a single person's mild criticism of specific cultural misrepresentation bothers you so much, maybe it's your own problem. Please check your hypocrisy. You came to my blog to yell at me. I've stayed in my own lane, and you don't have to be here.
If you don't want to read my essay, you do not have to. But TLDR is that you don't understand Christian theology; and that you're free to like canon how it is, and I'm free to be critical of it and make an AU that suits my preferences.
Previous, for context
Is it "snide" to voice discomfort with degrading something important, even sacred, to many people? Not even just Christians. I don't like using a misrepresentation of a belief system to demonize(no pun intended) them. That's it. I won't be perfect at it, but I'm trying.
Hazbin Hotel is not biblically accurate, and it's not meant to be, I get that. I just think it would be more interesting(and a more effective critique) if it was a little more accurate. It's my preference and not yours, that's fine.
Part of my discomfort is also about excessive sexual jokes and remarks. I just generally don't find dick jokes funny, so I don't really want to incorporate them. It's not just the religious aspects I take issue with. You would have no way of knowing if it's because I'm just prude or if I've suffered SA trauma. Which isn't your business to assume either way.
Disrespect is at the core of mistreatment, and saying disrespect was to cover both minor and major cases. Of course religious trauma is real and serious. But I don't know which individuals have truly suffered trauma, or which ones are exaggerating their hurt feelings because they're just bitter about being mildly mistreated. Whether their religious trauma is serious or exaggerated, both groups of people will lash out at the perceived perpetrators of the mistreatment. In other words, I was using inclusive language to avoid disingenuous assumptions.
My entire family has been affected by religious persecution spanning generations(trauma, as per your description). You are not the only one who has suffered. Difference is that I don't blame the religion, I blame the intolerance of people.
Persecution and discrimination is basically just the adult version of bullying the kid with braces or glasses or whatever silly difference kids can make fun of. It's ridiculous and petty and those who do it need to grow up.
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You don't understand the Bible at all, which is fine. Few people truly do(myself included). But misinterpreted perceptions of Bible stories is very literally not inherent. You don't know what, exactly, they preached thousands of years ago because 1. you weren't there, 2. it wasn't even in English, 3. You do not understand the cultural context of the people it was written by or for, 4. simple translation can only explain so much, 5. You don't even know what is being preached now.
Translation is a tricky process, and translating symbolism and metaphors can be even trickier. Just like how puns rarely translate between languages very well. An interpretation cannot be inherent if nobody can agree on an interpretation to begin with. But your interpretation is just plain incorrect. You do not understand what the story is conveying.
Different cultures use symbolism differently. For example, we associate snakes with being tricky, sneaky, venomous. So we often use it as a symbol of evil. BUT, ancient Mesopotamian cultures(such as the Egyptian Uraeus and Hebrew saraph(aka fiery serpents, aka seraphim) used it as a symbol for divinity and royalty. These differing interpretations can change how you view the symbolism of the devil as a snake. We think of it as an symbol for overt deception and evil. But for the people who originally wrote the story, it would have been a subversion of expectations. This symbol of divine authority told them to do something, but it was a trick. The context subtly changes the interpretation.
Another example of shifting context. The story of Lilith is not biblical. She is not even in the Bible. The portrayal of her as a feminist icon for women's equality is very specifically from the 1970s, which is very much not biblical. Before that, she was the bogeyman of fertility complications. The sickness and/or death of pregnant women, mothers, and children were attributed to lilith demons. As was infertility and men's performance difficulties.
Adam and Eve are partners. Partners don't have to do all the same things as the other. They will often do what the other cannot. If one is tall, and the other is short, the tall one will get things off the top shelf. That doesn't change that they are both human, and both contribute in differing ways to their partnership. I've tasked my husband with the responsibility of taking the sheep to the butcher, while I focus on raising and caring for them. Because he is less inclined to getting emotionally attached, while I am nearly incapable of avoiding it. We have different roles that compliment each other.
I was never, ever told the fall was Eve's fault. I was always told it was "Adam's transgression", and that we are not held accountable for something we didn't do. So my church doesn't even teach that we are tainted by "the original sin". If anything, Eve is portrayed as having an admirable level of foresight in partaking of the fruit. I was led to respect her.
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Differing male and female roles are essential to species survival, from a zoological perspective. I'm doing this to be as objective as possible. Humans are ultimately another animal. Gender roles that support those different roles benefit propagation and develop naturally. So sexual dimorphism in body and behavior is not unusual. I have a little flock of sheep, and the rams behave differently from the ewes. They don't consciously uphold gender stereotypes, they just are what they are. Female birds are often less colorful because it's more essential that they blend in and survive, while only a few males need to survive long enough to do their one part. Even animals who do not care for their young are often adapted to optimize female survive over the males.
Humans are different in our ability to reason and communicate, so we don't necessarily stick so rigidly into those roles, but the behavior patterns still exist. Women are more likely to want to stay home, want to take care of kids, want to work less. Men are more likely to want to fight, want to work harder jobs with longer hours, want to provide safety and stability.
The insistence that men and women have different roles is based in instinctual behavior patterns. I do think we should be allowed to break out of those expectations if we want. And oppressive measures to maintain them is not okay. But the overall pattern is still built around the fundamental biological fact that females have the babies. If the symbolism of the rib is that they are the same species, then these gender roles would absolutely still exist.
(I bolded to emphasize that my intention is not to defend misogyny, just to look at the situation with some objective nuance)
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I literally said that my entire point of bringing Hitler up had been to point out that Christianity in not the source of evil and oppression in the world(Hitler is just a commonly understood example of "evil person", and pointing out that it was not because of religion, because he was ultimately not religious). Bad people will use whatever they can to justify themselves, including hiding behind religion.
Hitler was baptized Catholic, but grew to hate it. I recall one quote where someone who was close to him said he was essentially atheist, whatever "essentially atheist" is supposed to mean. I just know he wanted to eventually purge Germany of Christianity, viewing it as some Jewish scheme of some sort. Idk, his views are wack. He had to play the political game and appeal to the Christian majority of the time to gain political power. He would not have described himself as Christian, or say anything positive about it, except as a lie for political gain.
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I wasn't referencing a single study. But since you brought it up, the Lilly School at Indiana University is not religiously affiliated. Most donations in the US go toward religion, but I didn't see stats that say what the religions do with it(I also didn't look very hard). Yet some of the biggest charities are run by religious organizations, like the Salvation Army. I've personally seen or volunteered at food drives, food banks, putting together hygiene kits, donating clothes, fundraising thrift stores, financial aid, service projects, etc that are run by religious organizations or openly religious people. Most of the time, the charity remains local and goes understated.
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You say this is about a specific brand of hateful rhetoric from some Christians, but you have not specified at all. You made it sound like it was just Christians as a whole. Which is not a fair judgement because there's a wide variety of interpretation of the doctrines across the various denominations. If you were trying to be specific, then you should actually be specific.
I agree that there are some Christians who are self-righteous and judgmental and rude. I said before that I've ben a victim of that too. But that's more about rude people that use religion as an excuse, and less about the religion itself. The same thing can happen with any demographic. Jesus was a Jewish man persecuted for his interpretation of Jewish practices and killed by Romans. Islam has the quarreling Sunni and Shia.
Previously, I used examples I have a decent confidence in the accuracy of. I try to avoid parroting incorrect information. I won't be perfect, but I was trying to stick to what I know and/or have experienced myself. Christians persecuting each other still matters because it means it's less about the specific belief systems and more about having a difference of belief at all. They persecute each other by claiming the others are not real Christians. So they are treating the "other" as if they are not Christian.
Some other examples. Vikings terrorized monasteries because they realized the monks wouldn't fight back. Rome had a particular phase of killing Christians(the evil 666 number actually represents Emperor Nero, not Lucifer/Satan/etc). The Crusades were part of a longstanding back and forth quarrel between Christianity and Islam. They both did their share of slaughtering the other. And you realize Christians are currently being beheaded in the middle east, right?? One was because he wore a cross necklace and wouldn't take it off because it was important to him.
But I think I've gone on long enough. Please don't keep yelling in my inbox or I'll have to block you.
HOW DARE HE STILL TREAT ANDREI LIKE THAT IT HAS BEEN ONE LONG FUCKING YEAR ACTUALLY MORE THAN A YEAR AND THAT WAS JUST ONE TINY EETY BEETY INFRACTION ON HIS PART AND HE'S STILL THREATENING TO PUT HIM IN A MUZZLE??? YOU THREATEN ANDREI?? YOU THREATEN THE GOOD DOCTOR?? HELL FOR VOLKOV!! HELL FOR VOLKOV!!FOR A GAZILLION YEARS!!! AND THE OTHER THREE IDIOTS TOO HOW DARE YOU NOT DO ANYTHING FUCK YOU MR 'I KNOW WHO PAYS MY BILLS UNLIKE ANDREI' NICKOLAI DO YOU SEE HIS SHAKING HANDS?? HOW CAN YOU NOT FEEL AWFUL FOR HIM YOU'RE NOT EVEN FUCKING ATTRACTED TO HIM SO STOP TORTURING HIM HE LITERALLY HAS NOT DONE IT AGAIN FOR OVER A YEAR OVER A YEAR OVER A YEAR OVEERR A YEAAAR VOLKOOV GET HIM OUT OF THE DITCH ACTUALLY JUST LET HIM GO COMPLETELY HE DID NOTHING WRONG AND YOU WERE WORKING JUST FINE ON THAT ISLAND WITHOUT HIM SO YOU'RE PERFECTLY CAPABLE JUST LET ANDREI GO SO THAT HE DOESN'T PAY FOR YOUR STUPID ASS CRIMES AFTER THE RAID ON YOUR HOUSE AND ON THAT NOTE HOW DARE THEY IMPRISON ANDREI?? ANDREI??? THE ONLY GOOD SOUL IN THE ENTIRE HOUSE?? YOU IMPRISON ANDREI??? FUCK YOU FICTIONAL RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT!! AND JUST WHEN HE'D HAVE GOTTEN A CHANCE TO GET TO AMERICA THROUGH BEN'S WEDDING?? VOLKOV SNATCHED HIM AWAY?? AGAIN?????? AGAIN!!! AGAAAIN!!???!?!?!? WHYYYYYYYYYYYY!! WHAT DID HE DOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! AND THE BARE LITTLE TOUCHES HE HAS BEEN FORCED TO GIVE BEN AS A TOKEN OF HIS SYMPATHY AND AFFECTION? HRNNNGGHHHHHHHHH!!! THEY NEED TO HUG!! THEY NEED A HUG ASAAP!!! LET ANDREI GET BACK TO HIS FAMILY SCOT FREEE!!!! STUPID FICTIONAL GOVERNMENT AND STUPID FICTIONAL VILLIANS FUCK YOU VOLKOV GO DIE IN A DITCH ALL ALONE AND THEN SPEND THE ENTIRETY OF YOUR AFTERLIFE IN THE WORST PART OF HELL WHERE YOU'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO HURT ANY NICE DOCTORS EVER AGAIN!!! ANDREI IS A DOCTOR!! A FUCKING DOCTOR!!! HE'S SUPPOSED TO HELP PEOPLE!!! HELP PEOPLE GET BETTER!!! NOT PREPARE PEOPLE FOR MORE TORTURE!!!! THIS IS WRONG!!! VERY VERY WRONG!!! SOO UNFAIR SO SO SO SO SO UNFAIR!! JUSTICE FOR ANDREI!! JUSTICE FOR ANDREI FOR A THOUSAND YEARS!!! JUSTICE FOR ANDREI FOREVER!! SOMEONE GIVE HIM MINOR AMNESIA SO HE FORGETS ALL THE AWFUL VOLKOVY STUFF!! VERY VERY GOOD KILLING ILYA GOOD JOB FICTIONAL AMERICAN GOVERNMENT!! AGENT VAAUGHHHHNN GOOD JOBB!! GOOD JOB!! YOU SAVE BEN?? YOU SAVE BEN FROM UGLY EVIL CREATURES??? RAISE FOR AGENT VAUGHN! RASIE FOR AGENT VAUGHN FOR A THOUSAN YEARS!! BANISH THE EVIL MEN AND THEIR RECEDING HAIRLINES!! STUPID CAMERA FUCKING NERD HE BETTER HAVE GOTTEN CAPTURED TOO WHY NOT MAKE HIM SUFFER IN ANDREIS PLACE?? HE'S WORSE?? HE'S UGLY??? WHAT'S THE PROBLEM??? OR BETTER YET KILL HIM TOO SO HE SUFFERS DOUBLE IN THE AFTERLIFE!!! STUPID FUCKING UGLY ASS IDIOT!! BET HE SLEEPS TO ANIME PILLOWS BECAUSE HE CAN'T CONSENSUALLY GET A GIRL!! JUST BECAUSE SHE IS STATED TO BE A THOUSAN YEARS OLD DOESN'T MAKE IT NOT PEDOPHILIA IF SHE STILL LOOKS NINE YEARS OLD NICKOLAI!! I HOPE YOU CRACK YOUR GLASSES AND THEY GET INTO YOUR EYE SOCKETS AND INTO YOUR BRAIN AND GIVE YOU PERMANENT BRAIN DAMAGE AND BLINDNESS THOUGH YOU ALREADY HAVE THE FORMER FICTIONAL SPETSNAZ MY ASS!! AND THE OTHER TWO WITH THEIR STUPID PUG FACES!!! ILYA YOU'LL NEVER BE VOLKOV S NUMBER TWO?? HOW DOES THAT FEEL HUH?? OH WAIT YOU'RE DEAD!!! AND AND DMITRI YOU CAN IMITATE VOLKOV ALL YOU WANT BUT YOU NEVER WILL BE HIM!! HOW DOES THAT FEEL HUH?? OH WAIT YOU'RE DEAD TOO!! BURN IN HELL!! SUFFER SUFFER FOR YOUR SINS!! ALEXSEI 'I MADE MY EMPIRE ON MY OWN AND I ANSWER TO NO ONE FOR IT' VOLKOV!! YOU WILL HAVE NOT EVEN A CAGE TO YOUR NAME IN HELL!! HRJEJSNSNSNZBDBNDNDNSSKKEOEKEJEBRBEBENNSSNNSNSKKJFJNFJDJDEJIEKEKRJTBTBBEBEJWKSOWOWHEBENWJWJSJSJSNSNSNSNSN#NDNJEJEJSBSBDBFHFIOSAOWNEBRVVRHRJTJTJRIEKSJJJDHHBABDBUMAN D UIUR STHOID EYEBBRWOSBL EYEBRWOS LOOK LKEK STARVEING CATERPILLARS YIU BREAK EVRYY BMKIROOR YOU LOOK AT DIEDIEDIEDIDDIEDIEDEE GIVE BACK MY MONEH
Ls. Love your workbauhojr sorry forthebrantc goso nhitte ngoightbn night hmn
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Wow...
Um... Thanks? I guess? This has to be the craziest review/ask I've ever gotten. I-
Wow. I don't even know exactly how to respond. LOL. Yes, Ilya bit the dust and Ben was rescued. Yes they arrested everyone who was there. No, Volkov was not there and nor was Dmitri. Yes, Andrei was there. Nikolai's fate has yet to be addressed. Sorry. He does tend to be a bit of an afterthought. Oops.
I'm sorry this sort of broke you. LOL. The story is not over, just this particular arc, but obviously there is still a lot more to come. Lol. Be safe and only read going forward if your mental health is okay. Take some deep breaths. Touch some grass maybe?
In all seriousness, thank you so much for this. It made my day. :-D I adore writing Ben's story and it's just the cherry on top that other people like it and are emotionally invested in it. <3
I wanna stick my tongue down patrik's throat, choking him in the process. Wanna stuff bugs in his asshole, so he'll feel them wiggling around in there. Put my dick in his ear, I enjoy a little ear hole-play
Yaz you don't have to respond to this but I have to rant to someone.
For the past year my block has been having to deal with this German shepherd. He keeps breaking free from his tether and chasing after our cats and small children. He even managed to break two of the poles on the porch. A few months ago my family watched that dog maul one of our neighbors cat. He punctured at least one lung and cause massive internal damage. She bled out. Her name was Storm and she was the sweetest cat I ever new. As she died she wrapped her two front paws around my siblings hand and hugged him. It broke us. We had to call and tell our teenage neighbor because we couldn't get in contact with his mother. Tonight that same dog mauled my cat. Her name was Echo. She was beautiful and grumpy and so cuddly. Today all of our neighbors were setting off fireworks and it really killed the mood. The neighbors who own that dog have no idea. And I know it wasn't their fault but I can't help but hate them slightly because their dog killed my cat. My cat who was a beautiful soul. And I guess the main issue I have is they were there when Storm died and still never did anything about that dog. The have a two year old in that house with that dog and don't seem to give a flying fuck. I hate it. I hate this day. I hate that dog. And I hate them for never doing anything about it.
dude i'm so sorry, that really fucking sucks and it's not fair on you and your neighbours, and especially on your pets. it's so fucking scary as well. it's happened to me before but with my neighbour's huge huge hugE cat who ate three of my bunnies (it was like ten years ago) and even a kitten i had just gotten
the owners of that goddamn dog need to do something before that thing attacks a kid bro, like srsly i don't understand their level of nonchalance
can you report them to the city? maybe animal control? or just call the cops the next time he's running around?
ngl if y'all lived in mexico someone would've poisoned him already. we're very vindictive and have a total of 0 morals, it's not even funny😭