#anti-drarry

[dream-with-a-fever]

people hating ron and ginny but canonically hermione and harry were the make a move on them. Lol i love the weasley charm

literally. harry and hermione would lose their shit if they could see the way ppl talk about their weasleys this app. wars would be waged, that’s all i’ll say!

[lazilycoolpinkbird]

Some of my HP opinions

-The only thing wrong with the epilouge was Albus Potter’s middle name.

-Romione/Harmione>Dramione.

-Hermione Granger would hate the majority of the fandom for their treatment of Ron and her status as the fandom bicycle.

-Drarry is a very toxic and abusive ship and they have zero romantic chemistry.  This also applies for Dramione/Tomarry/Tomione/Pansmione/Blairon etc.

-Hermione Granger isn’t perfect and thats fine.

-Harry Potter is more observant than the fandom thinks he is.

-Andromeda Tonks and Regulus Black are underrated Slytherin icons.

-Harmione is not as bad as Drarry/Dramione/Tomarry/Tomione/Snarry/Blairon... and should not be lumped in with them. Harmione could work if they were written well and its main problem is its fandom.

-Ron Weasley is held to impossible standards by the fandom that none of the other characters are held against, except maybe Ginny.

-The movies treated Ron and Ginny terribly.

[ronweaslydagoat]

It's worrisome to me that a good amount of people are willing to look past Draco's flaws and all the terrible things he did just because they think he is attractive. His redemption arc was shit and I don't care if he was forgiven. No amount of apologies will make up for the crap he's done. And I'm sick of the "he had no choice". It doesn't matter who raised you or what you were taught. He was old enough to look at the world and make an educated decision that calling people slurs and being a bigot just wasn't right. There is no redemption arc that can forgive him and there is no argument to make him look like a good person. He was a piece of shit till the end and still is.

[rednether]

The only guy Harry would willingly date is Cedric Diggory and I’m going to die on this hill.

Draco is a racist scumbag bully

Snape is just a plain bully abusing his authority as a teacher.

Voldemort is a genocidal maniac.

And Ron just has a lot of mental maturing to do before he’s worthy of dating Harry.

[the-voice-of-night-vale]

this post is incredibly critical of harry potter, drarry, and draco/hermione as well as midorya/bakugo (my hero academia) and reylo. you’ve been warned!

i’ve felt for a long time that drarry was kind of. a bad ship. but it only just clicked for me this morning that most ppl hc harry as indian and then ship him with a literal white supremacist allegory,,,, it’s hm. obligatory “they were kids and draco was groomed into being that way” but if harry can grow up and save the world then draco could have realized along the way that he was spoiled, bigoted, and a bully so being a minor at the time doesn’t erase the harm he did to harry. like........... you really shouldn’t ship people with the victim of their torment. i would have thought we would be clear enough on this now.

i feel like harry potter is responsible for a lot of pro-ship bullshit that permeates fandom spaces nowadays, with things like drarry and dramione (which, let’s face it, is the m/f version of drarry) leading to things like midorya/bakugo, reylo, etc. i can draw a direct line from some ppl who are in my age bracket and a little older than me shipping draco with any of the main three and then shipping thingslike midorya and bakugo and reylo. to a certain extent i think zutara (the more toxic version of that ship, at least (bc there’s two versions in my head, both problematic, but one worse than the other, but i won’t get into that now)) is also responsible.

idk i guess this just means to not interact with me if you ship drarry or dramione lmao

[acciocuteboysplease]

Dr*rry/ Dr*amione are just fancy versions of “ boys are mean to you because they like you” and I’m not taking this bullshit

They’re not even remotely fancy

[hillnerd]

Why I’m not cool with Drarry, Dramione, Drinny, or Dron: a rant

They are big NOtps for me. [if you are pro any of those ships, this post is not for you and you won’t like it.]

Ok- this is not me trying to shame anyone on what they like- this is just me going off on why I don’t personally like it, and how I see it approached often in the fandom.  Started thinking about it when I saw the Pro-Dramione post on HP confessions, but didn’t want to post this there, as I knew it’s turn into a ‘thing.’ :P I’m definitely overly sensitized from my own stuff and taking shipping of abusers/victims way too personally today, so I’m going off in a post I probably shouldn’t- but I just can’t help myself. 

I don’t hate Draco, actually. I know it sounds like it (and just wait til I really go off!)- but I find him interesting and like reading stories where he grows and changes and take responsibility for his terrible actions. I like drawing him every once in a while (have some Drastoria.) I’ve even had him show up in some fics from a long time ago- because I find him interesting.

Now in fics/art/comics people tend to skip the hard part of Draco’s redemption and just get straight to the ‘juicy/fun part’ of Draco getting with whomever. I get it. That’s the fun part of shipping. 

But for me, personally, I just get grossed out having the happy!shippy things going on, when there is so much history there and I didn’t get to see it addressed. It’s literally a weird trigger for me that makes me physically shudder.

The talk about it as a ‘beautiful story of forgiveness’ makes me get sick to my stomach. I’m not exagerating. It really makes me have a physical reaction. I’m a mess though (As so many of you on here know, as I am a book that is way too open). So I tend to physically react to things that relate to abuse type stuff. :P 

Now I really do believe that people can change for the better- and think Draco ended up doing this- but I really reaaaally don’t like people becoming romantically entangled with their abusers (or someone who abused their loved ones.) That is a dynamic that I find appalling. He wasn’t just a bully or doing harmless schoolyard teasing. He was a straight up abuser.

Mostly approaching this from the Anti-Dramione pov- as that was what I was reading:

So he began as a terror of a bully/abuser- This is a kid who threw around the equivalent of racial slurs on the regular. Tried to get an innocent animal killed. Went out of his way to emotionally torture her friends. Helped get her and her friends in the clutches of Umbridge (who physically and emotionally scarred students.)

If it had stopped there- maybe, just maybe I could be less averse to those ships? Maybe. It’d be hard work on his part, but maybe I could do it?

Then He physically assaulted her friends, and almost killed two innocent students (Alicia and Ron (the boy she loves)). He let murderers into the castle filled with kids and helped get Ron’s brother mauled. He had a chance to join Dumbledore and didn’t.

Then- during the war- he didn’t just sit and idly watch bad things go down. If he had, or better yet- if he had HELPED, I would have a different take on these ships. But no- during the war he actively helps the dark side. He dueled Harry and Ron when they were trying to save Hermione from Bellatrix and an approaching Voldemort (Hermione btw was about to be handed over to Fenrir, who it was implied was about to either r*pe her or tear her to shreds?) He tried to take Harry to Voldemort (who was gonna murder Harry).

Like.... I just can’t come to terms with all that going down- and any of them being ok with him intimately. You think she should forgive that? Not only forgive that- but then become entangled romantically with him? Or Harry should? Or Ron should? Ginny should? People honestly think there are enough conversations and actions that make it feasible?

Like I said- most fics/art/comics I see skip over all the steps he’d have to take to even be friends with them just to get to the ‘fun’ part of things. Again, I understand why.

For me I can appreciate Draco in things- It’s one thing for him to build relationships and friendships with people who he didn’t abuse/barely witnessed the abuses- but people who were there through the whole thing? It’s a big ol’ blech from me.

I’ve been in fandom for a long long time- and most fics typically skip over all that actual redemption very quickly- like one to two conversations of ‘I was really awful’ ‘you were, but I understand why- so let’s be friends’ and... yikes...

I am actually a very forgiving person. WAY TOO forgiving. I forgave a ton of abusers and bullies way more quickly than they deserved- and am working on it- because it just kept inviting those types back into my life. So these sorts of dynamics make me sad.

I want characters I’ve always liked and admired the strength and bravery of to continue to be that- to stand up for themselves and those they love. You can forgive others- but letting them into your life that intimately after all that history is really troubling for me.

Because it’s not just your relationship that would have to have this level of forgiveness- it’s also all the other relationships in your life. He abused all of them- horribly. He needs to work hard to gain the forgiveness of ALL of them- and it’d be messed up to be in a relationship with someone who would be a triggering nightmare for your friends. Like... You just can’t do that to people you love and friendships you value. 

‘I know he abused you, and almost got you murdered multiple times by his own direct actions- but we had a conversation and he’s being nice now- so let’s all collectively get over years and years of his abuse because he’s hawt and sowwy.’ 

Blech

The implications of it all just make me feel uneasy.

[sirius]

what are your otps and notps for harry potter fandom?

OTP’s:

1. Jily

2. James Potter x Lily Evans

3. Lily Evans x James Potter

4. James & Lily

5. Lily & James

….I think you get the idea, nonnie. In my faq, I explain that Jily is the only ship I actually ship in Harry Potter, idk why i just ??? I like Deamus and Flintwood and I also like Linny and Pavender but,,,,that’s it really? Romione is eh like they’re cute but that’s it. And Harmony i can see and understand but it’s not a ship i can just leap onto. Hinny…I’m not okay with. Like it’s not a NOTP but…I wish JK had given Ginny more of a role in Harry’s life like I wish her character was more…idk…present in the books before HBP (with the exception of COS which no one likes anyway). I just feel like they’re not well suited (this could be biased as I still cling onto the schoolgirl crush I harbored for Harry my entire childhood, lol) 

I wouldn’t sign my soul over for these ships tho like I would for Jily…..ah just thinking of them makes my heart flutter. Other ships: Harry x happiness, Regulus x happiness, remus x happiness, sirius x happiness, cedric x happiness, dobby x happiness, fred weasly x happiness (actually, I can really get behind Fred x Hermione, too!), tonks x happiness, colin x happiness, everyone else who died during BOH x happiness. 

okay, this is the part that has fangirls screeching. 

NOTP’s:

1. DRARRY

2. Wolfstar

3. Snily *shudders*

4. I can’t think of anything else? 

Okay, okay, I’ll explain my thoughts. 

I don’t like Drarry because I still have a grudge on Draco for all the shit he put the trio through (especially Harry) so I don’t see why Harry would turn to his childhood bully for a romantic relationship? like if I’m going to ship Harry with anyone, it’s either Hermione, Luna or Cedric. Preferably Cedric because soft boys deserve one another. 

Now, I can already hear you aggressively tapping away at your keypad, readying your canons of destruction. ‘James was a bully and your OTP was Jily! It’s the same as Drarry!’ 

No, No it’s not. James changed. He became a better person. He stopped bullying others and was so good, Dumbledore elected him as Head Boy despite the fact he wasn’t a prefect. That is a pretty big transformation. It was only then that Lily started to reciprocate feelings for him – when she saw that he was making an effort. 

Draco…didn’t change. Not really. He was still a bitch to Harry, even after Harry saved his life. Now, Draco is a complicated character, and I have the feeling that he has no idea how to express himself or his emotions so I get that he might be a bit prickly. But he really has no redemption arch, unless you accept Cursed Child as canon, which I blatantly ignore. 

Now, I’m sorry to all the Draco fans who follow me. As a writer, I understand that every character has flaws and they have characteristics that redeem those flaws. For Draco, I’d say that his courage to not dob Harry in during DH was def a positive development. And his story arc during HBP does make me sympathize with him a little more. He reminds me of Regulus, in a way. They both got too deep in with the sharks, and before they knew it, they were drowning. But…I don’t think Draco is misunderstood. He made clear choices and he was aware of the consequences. Regulus saw what he was getting into and stopped Voldy. Draco? he…didn’t do anything? not really? 

Okay, Wolfstar. Now it’s not explicitly a NOTP, I just…it doesn’t make sense. Heres why. 

In POA, Remus and Sirius apologize to each other for suspecting the other of being the spy working for Voldemort. Now….why would lovers suspect each other? Lovers trust one another, that’s what makes them lovers. They’d just know that person wouldn’t be capable of such a thing. It sounds stupid but that’s what you’re like when you’re in love. You don’t think that person will betray you or others in such a way. 

Also, if Sirius was so in love with Remus, why would he expose his secret to Snape in the hopes of using Remus as a weapon to bully Snape with? That’s just wrong. Don’t get me wrong, y’all know how much I love my boy Sirius but the man had serious flaws (no pun intended), and using Remus that way shows that he didn’t fully appreciate the gravity of Remus’ condition and - furthermore- disrespected it all together. That was a dick move and not something Sirius would do to his lover. 

It’s clear that Sirius was devoted purely to James. Sirius would have died for him, afterall. I don’t think he was as close to Remus than he was to James. Sure, I think they were friends, close friends actually, but James and Sirius were like brothers. ‘never saw one without the other.’ Inseparable. And they remained that way until James’ death, and even then, Sirius was still loyal to James. I honestly cant’ see Sirius being closer to anyone but James. 

Now I know what you’re thinking: ‘It’s completely fine to have friends and still be in love.’ Well…duh. That’s obvious, isn’t it. But. Lets be real: once your friend gets a significant other, their devotion shifts primarily to that lover. Now that’s not to say that they don’t stay friends – James was still friends with Sirius when he started dating Lily. But Lily was now apart of his life in a way that Sirius couldn’t be. I really don’t believe Sirius ever loved anyone other than James, and if I’m going to ship him with someone other than myself (I’m selfish, I know) or with happiness, I’d ship Sirius with James. Those two…yes. Def. I could get behind that. But not with Remus…no. 

Also, JK Rowling confirmed that Sirius didn’t have a love interest Pre-Azkaban because “he was too busy being a badass.” That makes more sense. And I know we totally disregard what JK has to say but lets face it, she knows him better than anyone, doesn’t she? 

Okay, finally, Snily. 

I don’t think I have to explain this very much. 

Lily was far too good for Snape and that’s it. Now, I love Snape pining over Lily because, honestly, I’m inlove with that angel of pure softness too. But I don’t think they were ever romantically involved,  it’s clear that Lily only saw him as a friend and nothing more. 

Now, some other ships that I dont like: Remadora (idk i’m just iffy, maybe its the age gap?), Pansy parkinson x anyone (I would love to just smash canon Pansy in the face with a brick because that bitch is nasty and I hate her with a passion) Ginny x Tom Riddle (???????? abuser and victim ???? gtf away from me) Dramione (again with the bully x victim thing) I can’t think of anything else tbh? oh! Regulus x Petunia. Actually, anyone other than Vernon x Petunia. I just….I’m holding a grudge against her, too. I really love my girl Lily and the way petunia made lily feel, especially making Lily feel that it was her fault, really grates my cheese. 

Wow, that was….really deep. 

Now, i’d like to finish up by saying: Everyone has a right to ship what they want. So I’m not sorry that i ship/don’t ship these characters together. And I don’t mind if you unfollow me because of it, too. It’s your choice, it’s your opinion and you’re entitled to that. that’s fine. You do you, my dude. But don’t you dare bombard your way into my inbox and contaminate it with salt. Bitch, grow up and drink a tall glass of happy juice. If you’re looking for drama, go somewhere else and satisfy your drama fetish. 

that’s all i have to say about that. lol, that sounds harsh but idgaf. Friendly, curious questions are fine but not bitchiness. take a dump somewhere else.

To sum this up: I don’t ship ship anything but Jily. Sure, there are ships that I find cute but nothing that can match Jily. 

Okay, I’m out.