#aroacediscourse

[flip-flopping-frede]

Aroaces do not speak for everyone in the Acommunity.

Aroaces are not the most marginalized group. Pushing this narrative of inclusion has reached the extent of erasure for more marginalized aspec identities.

Pushing this narrative of “lithromantic is included under aro” or “aro includes lithromantic” makes me feel like I’m not being heard as a lithro, who uses the lithro label + flag and doesn’t feel included. I feel like aroaces are trying to erase my identity and replace it with the aro label. “Aro awareness”-only doesn’t result in more awareness or visibility for my lithro label. Infact, “speaking over” lithros/arospecs/aspecs who don’t use the aro/aroace label, is a problem. It invalidates people and results in more exclusive awareness for the aro + aroace labels, and none for labels that desperately need awareness, like lithromantic, frayromantic, and fraysexual.

[fandomshatepeopleofcolor]

Noticed all the acearo discourse and just wanted to say I appreciate your backing up aro and/or ace folks. We're not trying to take space away from anyone (at least I hope the lot of us aren't). I understand that we can't compare our struggles. Yes, I'd say there are "cishet" aro and/or ace people in some sense, but to call them "straight people in disguise" and to deny us space when /actual/ straight folks hurt, shun and deny our existence…is jarring ._. -Love, a cis demi-panromantic ace PoC

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[fandomshatepeopleofcolor]

Wow about the cishet thing I genuinely thought you were being an idiot until I looked up the definition. I didn't know it meant you were heterosexual as well.. I suppose people need to use google more instead of attacking you/you guys....🤔

The more you learn the more you know right?

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[fandomshatepeopleofcolor]

aphobes have the exact same rhetoric as terfs and they should all be ashamed of themselves. theyre all the damn same to me when they start spouting that gatekeeping garbage for no other reason than to recycle homophobia and convince themselves that theyre better than everyone else.

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[fandomshatepeopleofcolor]

Im really confused by ace discourse so am neither an exclusionist or inclusionist (i only learnt about ace discourse recently) and i am curious- would you consider someone who is cisgender hetromantic and demisexual queer?

Yes.

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[fandomshatepeopleofcolor]

How am I wrong? Which one of those examples is incorrect?

They are a part of the community and as such they can reclaim queer as  they want and let’s stop being ahistorical and acting like the word hasn’t been used against the community before.

I’m done with this conversation after this. I’m just blocking people at this point.

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[fandomshatepeopleofcolor]

What does any of this argument have to do with the point of this blog. If I wanted ace discourse I'd follow a blog for that. One or two asks I get because it got brought up bit this is never ending tonight.

First we have a specific tag for this for a reason and if you don’t wanna see this you can block it. They are: aroace discourse  and acearo discourse

Second when this stuff comes up we answer it and defend the community because the PoC that are supposed to feel safe on this blog are also a part of the community the these anons are trying to exclude. It’s important that they know we’re gonna defend them no matter what they identify as [within reason like we aren’t protecting anyone of color if they say I’m a pedophile that’s my sexual orientation etc.]

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[fandomshatepeopleofcolor]

Discoursers: "The split attraction model is horrible and shouldn't be applied at all, it's internalized homophobia." Also, discoursers: "If you are gay AND asexual, you are okay with us."

HAHA. 

Man that’s right lolol. It’s almost five in the morning and I just screeched. My neighbors hate me. 

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