#book!alvin

[misterrttegrimborn]

[tenebrius-excellium]

Lol told you 😆 Excellinor is most definitely a Creature of most wicked intentions. A truly blackened soul. 10/10 would never meet again. Unfortunately, her son takes after her. —Ceo

Her son. You'd think Alvin would learn, wouldn't you? I mean sure, to him it always looks like Hiccup is feeding him to various dragons, which is... objectively funny ahahahhahahaha

I think that even if playing the pity party, I'd ask at some point, having lost my nose and all, what it was that got me into situations where I lost literal limbs - and would turn to dragons as my No. 1 enemy, not some scrawny boy who was just fighting to escape death himself.

However, if Hiccup starts to advocate for dragons' rights and all that later on, that's when beef truly will get personal and Alvin is bound to hate Hiccup for it. That's when they are fated to be enemies, because both parties have good reasoning for their actions. Oh my gosh I just realized that it's literally just Drago's motive in the movie O_O

Oh. my. gosh. Yeah. Imagine dragons take away your loved ones. Your home. Your literal limbs. Crushing bones and digesting your life. And here comes this annoying, youthful little shit telling you that ❀☆✧ "dragons are kind and amazing creatures" ✿❁✧☆ AND he has a matching peg leg to mock your pain with his overcoming attitude. All the while, you have conquered the brutality of dragons with equally brutal justice. It took work, y'know. It took putting yourself in danger and buying equipment and being witty and taking on a Bewilderbeast just to survive and come out on top for another day. And here's this red-haired ridiculous freckled boy trying to lecture you that all your previous efforts were in vain because "love wins". No. There were times when violence won, and Drago knew that and Hiccup didn't. Drago should have asked Hiccup about his leg as well. That's when Hiccup could have said that he found a way to forgive, and Drago could have answered that well, that didn't match his own experience and he'd come too far to change his mind now. And as for a succeeding conqueror who would've had to admit failure in the midst of his campaign, that would have been a fair answer for a villain.

Freaking heck. Framed differently, Drago could have been a sound villain and just as intelligent as Alvin (or Viggo). The cardboard character could have been the most respected antagonist in any piece of media, ever. Wow. I have a newfound admiration for book!Alvin now, because his story checks out. Sorry, I suppose I've tried to view him through the image of movie!Alvin before, which is in no way a proper comparison. Dude, Mildew. Mildew represented a hint of Alvin's finesse. Just a hint. But DUDE. The moral stakes ------ I want to write about something like this now!!!!!!!!!????? About how older characters have difficulties with change because admitting the need for change means that they may have dedicated their entire lives to a lifestyle that is "wrong" ...??? and how their way of living takes respect too because they did it as well as they knew. DUDE.

Just.......just take that entire thing I said right there and apply it to the actual late Queen of England, and see how well our young generation does in having compassion and validation for older people who definitely did wrong things. Perhaps we know better today. But the old people had a valid experience and reasons for their actions too. This is a hot take that sounds absolutely mad, but perhaps reflecting about colonization etc. just wasn't a priority for a generation of English citizens who freshly came out of a world war. Should they have reflected? Abso-freaking-lutely. Should the Queen have done more? Frickking YES! Was there enough time after the war? Surely!!! But dare I say that...people had war losses. People were selfishly focussing on getting the economy back running, getting food on the table, managing Germany, mourning their dead, getting a life again. That's a lot of change already. And I think at some point, when you grow old, you simply tire of change, no matter how important it is. Few have the energy to rise up again for yet another matter, despite how important. And so...that becomes a task left for the newly rising youth. The fresh spirits. That's now. The English have a marvelous opportunity to change right now if need be. Sadly, change will often only come when the majority of the citizens are affected badly by the current system, not just the minority. See, I know a lot of plain ignorance plays into the situation as well.

Here is a song that came on my mind while I was writing this...

Looking now at this random essay I just wrote, the moral potential of Httyd is amazing. Look at it. I love how the tiny fraction of the book!fandom that I know of wholeheartedly agrees that Cressida gives invaluable moral prompts to think about - that translate really well into the real world. Educational fiction - gosh, how much I aspire to do the same for others!!!

Anyway, returning to Excellinor. Umm. Yeah. I'm terrified to hear from her in the last 4 books. She's a formidable force to be reckoned with. Ouch. I wince for Hiccup already.

Thanks for sending me this ask, my answer got quite philosophical lol. But I love this. I love when stuff makes you think and change.

Cheers

Reddie

[kingofthewilderwest]

For the character ask meme, book Alvin the Treacherous, Viggo and Ryker

Character ask meme.

Alvin: #3 I’m toggling between a four and a three here. I think I’m going to say a three ultimately because I do relish the constant rivalry we see between Alvin and Hiccup. It’s foundational to the story, so it’s a treat to see Hiccup and Alvin at it again. Like, so many of the great scenes in the HTTYD books are because of these two pitted against each other. You have to appreciate Alvin for that alone, at the very least.

Viggo: #2. Fan Over Viggo interests me as a character because he’s framed in a far different manner than most HTTYD villains are. He’s not directly attempting to conquer land, destroy Berk, or harm Hiccup and his companions. He’s not someone who holds complete disregard over the people who work for him - we see him show mercy on multiple occasions, and scoff at the idea that we should needlessly harm others. Viggo accepts that he is someone who works in the morally gray zone, and he does. It makes him rather fun to see on screen. 

Ryker: #4. Meh Ryker has never stood out to me as a unique personality within the HTTYD canon. It’s not that he lacks unique character traits - he just doesn’t stand out amidst all the flavorful individuals the full franchise offers.

[thanksfornothinguselessreptile]

I really wish they’d done a little more with Alvin the Treacherous learning Dragonese. 

I know Hiccup got his book back from Alvin in “How to Speak Dragonese” but that didn’t mean Alvin didn’t forget what he learned. While he did rely on the book for clearer translations, he did have the base of the language. It could’ve made him a lot more dangerous villain if he could speak to and understand dragons. 

[kingofthewilderwest]

Book HTTYD/RTTE5 spoilers]Okay, you literally asked for it. Unfortunately, the Johann reveal was spoiled for me ahead of time by... someone... but I am still really excited about it, even though I sincerely liked Johann as a neutral character. The writers of RTTE gave us an Alvin out of nowhere with the same mustache and storytelling cover, same hidden vendetta! Now we have quite the number of Alvins, considering Blood-Traitor Al, Murdering Mildew, and Burnt Viggo. The dragon King should beware!

Hey! That’s sort of fun to make those parallels!

We have Alvin the Treacherous, who is the Chief of the Outcasts, just like Alvin is in the books.

We have Viggo, who fell into a volcano and became disfigured, just like Alvin in the books. And I must say that Viggo falling into the volcano and surviving did feel to me like an intentional book parallel!

And Johann being “an honest trader” who goes undercover and infiltrates Berk? Well, you have a point! That’s a bit like Alvin the Poor-but-Honest Farmer! He only goes to Berk in disguise as a simpler worker, befriends Hiccup, but seeks to learn critical information for his own gain.

[dragon-wolfie]

Ayyy, more au art, this time for someone else's au

This is @toasts-httyd-hyperfixation ghost!hiccup au, i am in love, thank thee for the delicious angst

[anenemyanemone]

I was trying fictional characters for various crimes with my brother, and we were on httyd but he's only read one of the books and he was trying to say that Alvin wasn't guilty of anything unless I had textual evidence only I only have the last three books so I have no evidence of any of his earlier crimes, so does anyone have any evidence of Alvin's crimes in the early books?