#botw theory

[zeldatimelineexplained]

“totk doesn’t make sense, sonia died before she could have kids” rauru mpreg. who cares. now can we focus on the real totk timeline problems like how this steals ganondorf’s OOT origin without being set in OOT’s era and thus soft retcons Ocarina of Time as well as every branch of the timeline following it.

[twilights-pecs]

The botw springs don’t connect to Hylia.

Think about it, they are the springs of power, wisdom, and courage. Hylia doesn’t represent those elements, the golden goddesses do. Of course she couldn’t answer Zelda’s prayers at the springs, those were not her vessels to answer through.

The Golden Goddesses stay out of mortal matters such as that. Their job is to maintain balance. They would not answer Zelda because it is not their job to do so.

In both BOTW and TOTK the statues are connected to their dragons as well. And though they can sense the statue in the forgotten temple, it’s never said they are the same being.

It would make sense, for, after thousands of years myth to be confused with fact. The hero of the sky visited these springs to find Hylia. Along the line that became him praying there.

The statues that connect to hylia are the ones built in towns and cities. Made with love by people she protects. Those are the ones she quietly answers prayers at. Coincidentally, before the calamity, Zelda felt a bit closer to unlocking her power whenever she was within a city.

Hylia tried to help Zelda, tried to save Hyrule, but the expectations placed on the Princess doomed them both.

[virtualplays]

random BoTW theory that i've kept to my chest and am finally comfortable enough to share. and that i've already technically shared else where.

...eh hem.

the reason Zelda's praying didn't work was cuz she was praying to Hylia at the Shrines dedicated to the Golden Goddesses.

LIKE THINK ABOUT IT.

the Springs of Courage, Wisdom, and Power. not the...Spring of Holiness or Light or WHATEVER. the Dragons that are tied to the Springs as well? those are literally Spirit Guardians. that are named after the Golden Goddesses.

ZELDA WAS TRYING TO PRAY TO HYLIA AT THE SHRINES/SPRINGS THAT ARE DEDICATED TO THE GOLDEN GODDESSES (<- i scream as i get dragged into a padded room)

[hylianchampionn]

silly little headcannon please let me get my thoughts down:

so in Botw, Clavia gives Link a quest in Hateno Called “Secret of the Cedars”,

located on Madorna mountain; directly north of the village. Clavia sets up the quest by saying she found a letter in an old book in her house about a legend involving the mountain.

still with me? great.

if you go into any house in the village you’ll find these sugar/flour jars. the jars are Hateno’s signature blue and white colours with a logo of a three-peaked mountain range. it’s kinda hard to see, but it’s there. i think those jars are part of Hateno’s agricultural business.

it would make sense to associate the village with the mountain cedars because of its proximity and uniqueness. the odd placement of the trees is noteworthy. so noteworthy in fact, that hylians were writing folklore about it (evidence being Clavia’s letter). but that’s not all…

the tree-mountain motif isn’t just on jars; it’s design is literally EVERYWHERE in the village. painted on sheds, houses, furniture, crates, gates, pots, bowls, clothing, books, HELL EVEN THE SCHOOL NEWSLETTER HAS THE LOGO ON IT.

safe to say, Hateno Village itself is associated with the Madorna mountain cedars. my guess is that this connection was made the very day that Hateno was created. the tree/mountain symbol is woven into Hateno’s very foundation which probably extended to their farming business, which is why the design on the jars is so interesting. i actually made my own Hateno jar! the hylian translates to “Secret Cedars Imports” :)

thanks for listening!

[monseocbled]

So, I noticed that the Age of Imprisonment map of Hyrule has a whole lot more water. Lakes and rivers that are completely missing in BotW and TotK's map, a shoreline that is much higher. And like...what if, for the original Zonai, they weren't living in the sky? What if they lived on islands but on a flooded Hyrule that slowly slowly drained and revealed the land below them? Hyrule has been flooded once already, couldn't it have been flooded again and that's why we end up with a new King and Queen?

[gothic-soda]

BoTW Theory: The Champions were unarmed when the Blights attacked

Losing my mind I just realised this detail in BoTW and I had to share it. Maybe this has already been pointed out, but I wanted to dive into it. In Memory 15 “Return of Calamity Ganon,” none of the champions are shown with their weapons, except for Link.

See, no weapons.

And when Revali flies up to get a better look at the Calamity, we can see he doesn’t have his Great Eagle Bow.

The only one with a visible weapon is Link, who has the Master Sword.

We can assume that the champions headed straight to their divine beasts while Link and Zelda headed to the castle. Daruk clearly orders all of the champions to immediately head towards their Divine Beasts.

And really, if you think about it, the original plan was for the champions to strike Ganon with their Divine Beasts, they’d have no reason to think they’d need their weapons, because the Champions themselves were never meant to face off with Ganon directly.

Then there is also the fact that each Champion’s respective villages has kept their Champion’s weapons in a chest for 100 years after the Calamity. This is even though no one had set foot on any of the Divine Beasts in 100 years, so if the champions DID have their weapons on them during the battle, how would it be possible for each champion’s race to have their weapons in their possession? And they couldn’t have been retrieved after Link freed the Divine Beast, because Teba makes a comment that he is not strong enough to use the Great Eagle Bow without it slowing down his flight. I don’t exactly buy the idea that Teba, while injured, would have immediately tried the Great Eagle Bow the second Vah Medoh was freed. He most likely did so at some point before freeing the Divine Beast with Link.

We know from BoTW that each divine beasts has chests containing weapons that the champions could have potentially used to defend themselves, but they are all spread out throughout the divine beasts, so it certainly would have been difficult for them to get their hands on any weapons even when they did realise they were under attack.

The only weapons onboard each divine beast were:

Vah Medoh

5x Bomb Arrows

10x Ice Arrows

1x Knights Bow

Even the best archer in Hyrule (which Revali canonically was) would not be able to defeat Windblight with that.

Vah Naboris

1x Knights Bow

1x Knights Shield

The only thing Urbosa would be able to use here would be the shield, she’d still have her fury, sure, but that’s hardly a fair fight. And even if she knew how to use a bow (which there is no canonical basis that she does) there weren’t any arrows aboard Vah Naboris anyway.

Vah Ruta

10x Fire Arrows

10x Ice Arrows

1x Knights Halberd

The only weapon Mipha could even use here is the Knights Halberd. She’d have no use for arrows without a bow, and same thing with Urbosa, we have no idea if Mipha knows how to use a bow anyway. I should also mention that the halberd is in quite a difficult place to get to, right at the top of the Divine Beast. So this really wasn’t a fair fight for poor Mipha.

Vah Rudania

1x DragonBone Boko Club

2x Knights Bows

10x Arrows (in two separate chests, so 2 chests each with 5 arrows)

5x Ice Arrows

Nothing here would be particularly useful for Daruk. The Boko club is made out of wood, so it would catch on fire. And I don’t think Daruk would even be able to hold the Knights Bow, it would be too small for him even if he knew how to use a bow (which again, who knows if he does or doesn’t). Daruk seems to have to worst luck out of everyone.

And yeah maybe there were other weapons on the divine beasts that the champions did use, but my point is to illustrate that most of the weapons they had available to them were not ideal.

The sad part is that these chests were all unopened, so the champions likely didn’t even get a chance to defend themselves, they were taken completely by surprise.

It also puts into context that most of the champions make some kind of comment about their opponent fighting dirty, it literally wasn’t a fair fight.

[cosmetichorror]

Hey, so in botw and totk (and TlOZ in general) we see that often times powers are passed through generations, like Daruk and Yunobo's shield and Riju and Urbosa's electricity? Zelda and Hylia's powers?

And you know that Link's weird little flurry rush thing isn't something everyone can do (except in Age of Calamity but I don't think that counts) and it has been referenced in game, with the characters noting how it looked like Link could almost slow down time?

And you know how in the series the only other examples of a character using flurry rush other than Link is in totk, where Ganondorf can flurry rush Link back?

Just some food for thought

(I'd also like to add that in botw Link's arm warmer thingies are a Gerudo pattern, very similar to the arm warmer thingies Oot Ganondorf wore. Also, we've seen Urbosa do a perfect parry in game. It's no flurry rush, but it looks pretty similar to the one Link can do)

[botwstoriesandsuch]

Thank you!

Here are the symbols, as I know them:

Λ (lambda, phonetic symbo, Ll; ʎ used in math), ʃ ("esh" & integral; phonetic symbol, formerly used to represent ‘sh’) or ⎎ (technical symbol, hysteresis symbol, correlates to f), ǁ (math, parallel to; phonetic symbol, aveolar lateral consonant), : (ratios or scales), ❜ (phonetic symbol), o (phonetic symbol) or O (math, Landau's symbol, describes the asymptotic behavior of functions or represents the null matrix where all elements are zero), last is the drop-looking symbol that I'm struggling with.

And the lineup of powers as we first hear about them in BotW was from Rotana, who said that they were: "skill, spirit, endurance, knowledge, flight, motion, & gentleness."

However, the Stelae themselves write it out as "heart, skill, fortitude, wisdom, flight, mobility, & compassion."

Remember that this was supposedly left by the Heroines themselves, making it akin to a first hand account, I believe?

And, luckily, the difference is easily explained by the legend having been told multiple times over generations. As they can be condensed like this:

Heart/spirit, skill, fortitude/endurance, wisdom/knowledge, flight, mobility/motion, & compassion/gentleness.

I also looked up what kanji were used in the original text just in-case & this is ultimately my conclusion to it all with the order of both the Stelaes' list of powers, the symbols at both the ruins & in the shelter, & the gifts left at the underground altar:

Heart; Shin (心; means heart, spirit, or mind) = ❜ = Gerudo Shield

Skill; Gi (技; means skill or technique) = Λ = Golden Claymore

Fortitude; Tai (耐; means endure or resist) = O = Ruby

Wisdom; Chi (知; means knowledge or wisdom) = : = Sapphire

Flight; Hi (飛; means flight) = ⎎ = Topaz

Mobility; Dō (動; means motion) = Drop Sign = Gerudo Scimitar

Compassion; Jū (柔; means gentleness or softness) = ǁ = Gerudo Spear

Though, I noticed that the weapon missing from this line-up is the Golden Bow. But, then again, it's possible that one of the Heroines that gave a gem might've used one. Possibly the Heroine of Flight. I mean, Hi (飛) is evidently used in verbs referring to “letting something fly,” so that might well be it.

Similarly, I believe that the kanji that I paired with the fortitide also is correct as the kanji is used in the term taika (耐火) which means “fire-proof.” Ergo, the ruby. Similarly, jū (柔) is the kanji used for jūdō. So, if I'm right, then I think it suggests that the Heroine of Compassion might've been a master of Sōjutsu (the art of the spear). Or whatever the Gerudo equivalent of such might be.

And part of the reason why I believe that Misko might be related to the Heroines is due to their name in all other countries:

Japanese: Ramuda (ラムダ)

Dutch: Lambda

French: Lambda

German: Ramda

As in, their actual name is Lambda & their symbol is a Lambda.

So, yeah! That's what I have so far! :D

(At least, that's what my research has told me.)

Fucking sick as shit man!